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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "I recently learned that waste heat will boil the oceans in about 400 years." video.
@AndrewBurbo-zw6pf "a plant could use to turn CO2 into O2" - Plant growth depends on many factors (such as depleting soils), and doesn't provide energy.
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Without the solar panels, the energy would have to be produced with coal and gas.
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@alexandrustefanmiron7723 A green Sahara will mean you'll have to abandon multiple cities and start building there. You think you can get a green Sahara and a livable LA or Las Vegas? Or Tucson? Congratulations, you're footing the bill for the relocation of millions of people. It's going to be trillions.
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There's a window in the spectrum. The surface of the Earth can't just emitt in that window.
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Wouldn't work in already humid areas, just dry areas. You'd have to transport water into places where water is scarce due to the dry conditions. Plus, you'd be warming the air near the clouds, not space.
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By the time that greening happens, you'll have refugees from Las Vegas, Tucson, Mexico City, Rio de Janeiro, etc knocking on your borders. Or maybe you live in a hot place and you'll be forced to abandon it to move to greener pastures. How about we don't green up Africa and stay where we are? It would save us trillions.
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Efficiency is a thing in physics.
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Without children, we'll just run out of resources to handle future issues.
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@Jay_Kay666 If you want to boil down the cessation of human activity to economics, sure.
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Logarithmic, but linear on the human timescale.
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The daytime would increase on the opposite side...
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It was a tongue in cheek remark, not a takedown.
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I think you'd find you land on the parasite list.
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Why? Biofuels would produce the most waste heat.
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@AndrewBurbo-zw6pf because the free energy absorbed allows us to stop building more and more coal and gas thermal power stations.
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For Earth? There is none. What matters is preserving the biome as much as possible because we don't have millions of years for new plants and animals to be adapted.
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The irony is that without kids economies all over the world will stumble as people age and our productive demographic shrinks, thus making sure we won't have the prosperity to fix the issues.
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Okay. But most heat is wasted. If we could have a perfect world, the power stroke would suck all the heat during the expansion of gasses and the exhaust would fly out at ambient temperature.
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How much solar energy leaves Earth? The total incoming isn't as relative as the difference between incoming and outgoing.
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Sure. But what about the people living in already hot countries? They won't get any greener.
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Depends on the spectrum. Infrared is definitely absobred by water vapor. Some thermal imaging sensors have a very limted range because eventually water blocks IR. But you can get more expensive sensors (typically supercooled) which see on the sprectrum that doesn't get absorbed and thus get more range. The cheap thermal monocle you get on Amazon for your night hunting trip has a few kilometers of range. The thermal sensor on a F-35 fighter jet can see a missile being launched from 800km away.
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@hagopbulbulian6642 Actually it's 800 miles for suborbital rockets.
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@hagopbulbulian6642 If it's a rocket blasting off, I believe it can be seen from afar.
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@brothermine2292 It's not the fact that the candy is only one day. It's that the candy is given every two days, and the day after eating it I'm stuck on the toilet. The tasty candy is good, but eating it comes with gastrointestinal consequences. No heating in winter, but massive energetic consumption during summer. I'd reject the free candy (no heater in winter) to avoid paying the price in the porcelain throne (blasting AC day and night in summer).
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They'd make more money if they could.
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Biofuel by its very nature captures carbon from the air when manufactured, thus "cooling" the planet or at least preventing more carbon from being emitted. Normal fuel takes carbon stored for millions of years during the period where CO2 was much higher. We don't want it all back in the atmosphere. Geothermal heat alone would make Earth unlivable. Our surface would be frozen solid. It's the Sun that gives us our livable temperature.
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@fotoyartefotoyarte1044 Okay. If we don't use biofuel at all, just fossil fuel, CO2 rises. If we only use biofuel, CO2 doesn't rise. The waste heat will be emitted in either case.
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@RSProduxx that's not a thing, because you could just will yourself into having that worry. Worrying is not dependent on external factors but purely internal ones.
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You can start with yourself. Your internet and electronic device aren't natural, so why are you consuming energy and resources? Everyone wants to restore nature but nobody wants the huge hit on their quality of life.
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Growing watermelons in Scandinavia, but you'll have to foot the bill for the relocation of Mexicans and Brazilians to Greenland as they'll gave instant heat stroke temperatures in the shade. You're ready to pay for those trillions?
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They also make less money which means you'll have to use much more wasteful technology.
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The ecosystem doesn't self-regulate, it achieves equilibrium. Add energy to a closed system, it doesn't go back down. Volcanoes are irrelevant here except in the sense that an eruption can cool the Earth by blocking the sun with smoke particles in the high atmosphere. The heat in the magma is a result of the Earth's formation and billions of years of radioactive decay releasing energy. It has nothing to do with solar energy reaching the Earth.
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