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Karl Popper most likely could not deadlift more than Plato, therefore he is wrong.
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Luke Smith: "Windows sucks lmao" Windows users: "We know."
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Luke told me she was from another school so we don't know her.
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It's just how long it takes to upload on his rural internet connection.
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Mail your DIY projects to people you don't like.
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@MrSlashStudios the number of different CPUs is too bloated
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I don't mind that a recipe database is monetized, the issue is that we went from static banner ads to collecting every single bit of personal information, a video starts playing automatically, etc
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I fucking hate when I accidentally swipe too hard back to the top and the page starts refreshing on something like the youtube home page.
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@bibekgautam512 "But I certainly do listen to experts" - Which experts? Experts can have biases. Experts can be put under pressure. You mean you listened to a talking head on TV. But if you take the time to read the literature you'll see that cloth masks are only effective - about 60 percent - when made from multiple layers and multiple types of fabric to combine mechanical and electrostatic filtering, and nobody wears those because they're hot and restrict breathing. Surgical masks are disposable, and most people are reusing them. Surgical masks need to be replaced due to humidity, nobody's switching masks after wearing them for hours. Nobody's using masks like PPE, and incorrectly worn PPE gives the wearer a false sense of security. People are touching the masks. And most of all, the masks are meant to stop droplets when everyone's worrying about aerosol transmission. Any unsealed area will just allow aerosols to jet out of your mask. "And experts largely agree on the usefulness of the masks." - No, they don't. They told you they didn't work when this whole thing started. "And what you said about exhaling - that's such a slippery slope of an argument." - It's not a slippery slope. How is it a slippery slope when we've already seen people brutalized by state agents over masks? If you claim my breath is dangerous right now even though I am healthy, you have no moral standing to say your breath is no longer dangerous a year from now. There's no slippery slope, only consistency. Since we're criticizing fallacies, you might want to stop using arguments from authority and shut up about experts.
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When I joined the internet it was pre-social media and I knew about RSS but never understood how to implement it. I'd like to know more about it too.
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Not his quote, apparrently.
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@keveinkevin4422 you're missing the point, semiconductor fabs are billion-dollar facilities that require centralization. Buying from ebay doesn't negate the fact that there's only like 3-4 RAM OEMs and everything else is rebranded.
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Because the "global pandemic" doesn't care that you're wearing an unsealed mask. It's not a preventive measure, it's a talisman and it "works" by making people feel safer. And also, when this pandemic stops, you and everyone else will not stop exhaling dangerous pathogens. So if we consider exhaling to be an aggression upon others that justify cops beating the shit out of you in public for refusing to wear a mask, you better not stop wearing it for the rest of your life.
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So a fancy indexing system? I remember when Google worked and I could find any document I wanted.
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People will flog me in the streets for saying this, but maybe if creating an account had a small monetary cost, normal people could easily access them but spammers would get pelted with massive operating costs.
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"precision" in stamped sheet metal and routed wood lol Handmade stuff will literally have better fit and finish. It takes time while a machine does it in seconds. You can't outfit a whole IKEA store with your models but they'll probably better built. I have IKEA furniture. It's useful and practical, but fragile. If the back panel of my shoe drawers were any thinner, they'd be cardboard.
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@JK-pi6ji in the old days people learned those things without formal academia, most of the population probably needs tutoring to understand the concepts and reading at the library isn't enough... but academia isn't entirely necessary to learn, it's only necessary to put it on a resume so you can tell an employer that you've learned
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@Oakette the "there's an app for that" phenomenon ended, people just use the social media apps, the car ride app, the banking/sending money app, the supermarket loyalty card app, etc. Apps are basically just delivery mechanisms for functions which already existed in browsers and allow them to ask for all sorts of permissions so they can gather data. You no longer have a market where you can just throw money at app development and hope one succeeds like when smartphones were the new frontier.
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@NotOrdinaryInGames "you would not survive without technology and knowledge" - but then we'd be extinct. "I did not know clothing and fire and stone tools and arrows weren't technology" - I don't know how to tell you this but most species on Earth do not use fire, stone tools or arrows. And they're alive. We've evolved from species that did not have those abilities and it's generally considered that the Homo Erectus was the first of our ancestors to harness fire and stone tools. Something had to come before them.
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@bibekgautam512 "wearing a mask - completely sealed or otherwise - will reduce the risk of you getting exposed" - But the issue is being presented as the mask protecting not you, but others. If you don't wear the mask you're killing grandma. It's nobody's business if I'm exposing myself or not, so the issue has been switched around to make me responsible for exposing others even if they're wearing a mask. "whether government should make masks mandatory(which I sense that you're trying to argue about) is a different discussion altogether" - It isn't because if the "preventive" measures are not enforceable under law, there's no humiliation going on. "I'm not from the US" - Me neither. "But humiliation wouldn't be at the top of things I'd feel at such a scenario." - I mean, considering that the worst has passed and a massive amount of deaths happened because of sheer incompetence (or malice, if you want to wear the tin foil hat) allowing the virus to spread to nursing homes and killing tens of thousands of elderly per country, I do sit back and look at how governments shut down the economy, destroyed businesses and jobs and now we have to wear silly shit on our faces for god knows how long over something that was entirely avoidable but also not as serious as advertised. So I start to worry about shit that's gonna affect me more than the coof. Such as the move to cashless.
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@James-lg1mh Okay. Then most people don't have the opportunity to be independent because they don't want to save money for a few years living with their parents. Seems like it's their problem and it's not Luke or Sam who are at fault. This is a perfect example of how on the internet we constantly talk past each other, yeah nothing you're saying is incorrect but you're talking about not wanting to live at home when the topic is not being able to save money.
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The answer is being more efficient in space usage, not compressing one's life to a tiny house.
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Everything is destined to fail if you don't give us a reasonable timeline. Thanks Marx, without you I'd think things can last for ever.
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@verbosed "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"
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No amount of buried reasons would justify a chain of subcontractors ending up with a person driving hundreds of miles to move a computer from one room to another. By involving so many companies the opportunity to steal secrets actually increased.
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There's a Two Generals Problem joke hidden there.
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@jonathanolson772 No, it isn't relevant. You're arguing why certain cryptos aren't valuable, which isn't the point. The point is that creating an infinite number of altcoins does NOT negate scarcity. I'm only talking about ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES. I can't figure out what's worse, the fact that you're not reading or the fact that people are updooting the comments of someone who barged in a discussion and started mouthing off about unrelated topics.
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The real big brained take is that we introverts should create our own compound rural community.
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@yoshikhurazi1769 Okay, you're not entirely incorrect, the issue is that we've focused on asymptomatic spread (which in general makes sense, because you can quarantine the visibly sick) and the mechanism for asymptomatic spread bypasses the masks entirely. On the general public and masks, surgical masks are good, even homemade cloth masks are good and in some studies have outperformed surgical masks. N95 masks are generally the best performers but also the least practical. The issue is, surgical and cloth masks stop droplets. Against aerosolized viral particles, they do nothing. Even the cloth mask studies that found that multilayer, multimaterial cloth masks were performing acceptably against aerosols did the testing by wrapping the cloth sample over a tube and warned that their methodology doesn't measure the effectiveness of a real mask with unsealed surfaces. The issue isn't the general public and the masks they wear, it's the fact that we're so focused on asymptomatic spread that we're essentially declaring normal animal exhaling to be a biological hazard. The "credible" people are just telling people to wash their hands and wear a mask. Don't say what constitutes a mask and you don't lose your credibility.
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@Bagginsess Uh, not really. When going deep into CS a ton of mechanics that stuck around due to old school FPS engine tradition/deliberate balancing are completely abstracted from the real world. Maybe through making custom maps and running scenarios to teach people you could use it as a teaching aid, but the actual gameplay is pretty specific to CS. Now I can't stop thinking about the guy who got sick of the military simulator they used in training and started shooting at his squadmates, ended up facing actual charges for disturbing the exercise with virtual friendly fire.
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@moltonlava I'm an "EsSeNtIaL". I'm not putting my life on the line. I get exposed to hundreds of people per day, and so are my coworkers. None of us died. What conspiracy theories? Italy's health minister or whatever the position is called said the same thing. Yeah a lot of people died in Italy but many had 2-3 co-morbidities. Trust the experts until they disagree with me, then they're conspiritards.
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@milesrout I wouldn't trust New Zealand with my future because it seems to be going the nanny state route and it's the billionaires' backup plan.
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Based and Ea-nasir-pilled.
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@egg5474 Holy crap dude. Who said anything about monero or glowies? All I said was that creating an infinite number of altcoins DOES. NOT. NEGATE. SCARCITY. Do you think that creating cheemzcoin will cause bitcoin to crash? If your answer is yes then present your case, if no you agree with me already.
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@yt-xe8ws It's pretty fucking funny that every time someone explains how real life works your type of people always defaults to "hurr you're defending capitalism" as if that was some kind of insightful thought. You and everyone else had the opportunity to take all this shit that you're outraged that is being monetized and do it for free, but you people prefer to complain than actually doing something meaningful. Based Luke Smith simply creates the site, you sit here and complain. This is further proof that people who can transcend the left-right paradigm are driven enough to subvert the system, meanwhile low status people stick to their dogmatic ideologies hoping they catch on and ride the wave.
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"doing well" - just ignore the forced relocations for the purpose of ethnic cleansing, genocide, political repression, etc.
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Bad faith interpretation.
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"actually thinking extensively is not a requirement to playing LOL or CS etc." - couldn't give less of a shit about LOL but if you're playing CS like you mean it there's an economic metagame running underneath the surface. You can throw spoiler rounds where your team's objective is getting the enemy team to spend their resources on valuable weapons while your team saves their money, and instead of strictly trying to win the round your team can just try to cause as many casualties as possible to the enemy so that they lose their weapons.
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Wikipedia isn't even a "source". It links to sources.
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@russellzauner Even in a city filled with an impossibly high rate of "good people" you can't do your own thing without stepping on others' toes. If it's the people and not the location, pick a location with less people. Also, Chernobyl is pretty alive.
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I mean, most fraud would be just elderly people dying and the family keeping it a secret. There's ways of detecting the fraud such as having a QR code on the check and requiring photo ID to make the deposit, even locking the check to the account of the recipient. It would discourage serial killers, not the "my grandma is sick at home" relatives who could deposit in her account and use her debit cards.
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12:34 Nvidia releases RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti graphics cards to the public, 2018 (colorized)
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@will.davlin And those parents are kinda missing the point. There's a difference between not wanting to raise a deadbeat and the "out of the house when they get to X years" meme.
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@person800 he took the Juchepill
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@StarEclipse506 "right wing internet dwellers use it to describe people who unapologetically espouse right wing views" - maybe because you're only used to reading right wing internet interaction but literally anything can be called "based" for going against the norm. For example when someone writes a completely incomprehensible mess people respond with "based strokeposter" or when people go off on insane tangents people reply with a "based schizoposter". There's also the "based and X-pilled" reply, where X can be substituted for anything.
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It doesn't hinge on any assumption. I had this account permanently deleted for "hate speech" and I managed to appeal. I have a pretty good idea of what caused it and someone got butthurt over a joke. Now when engaging with someone I have to think "can I be my normal self and trash talk a bit or I have to handle this with kid gloves?" or else there go my playlists, etc. I can think. I don't care if I get downvoted (apparently downvoting doesn't even do anything anymore on YT comments). But my behavior has already been altered because I'm forced to play by a set of rules that first get interpreted by a bot, then some moderator farm in a developing country, and I have to worry if what I say can be misinterpreted as something that goes against the rules by these systems all because someone got salty and decided to report me. "I don't think there's anything insidious going on on the fountain pens subreddit, for example." - But there is. Not in a way that matters, but there is. A community can rally behind one fountain pen and call everyone who disagrees an heretic. It hardly influences the world at large but if you had a bad experience with Company X and think Company Y is better, you're fighting an uphill battle.
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@tkmonson "Your personal experience does not match everyone else's experience." - What does that even mean? Yeah, I had a personal experience with my ban, but even the people who burn through multiple accounts on twitter or whatever and don't care end up changing some of their behavior so they can last longer and engage more people. I'm not just interjecting some specific anecdote, this is almost universal. I was part of the Deterrence Dispensed subreddit and the nuking of that place had repercussions on other subreddits, which now take care to not do the same things that allowed Reddit to come up with a BS excuse to nuke the place. It's a shock collar and punishment discourages certain behaviors. "Yes, they CAN do that, but they don't." - But they do. I've seen this happen on communities about anything. You enter a subreddit, try to explain why someone's wrong, instantly banned. Or if they're nicer, you get downvoted to hell. "All human groups have the potential for good or bad." - Whoa, tremendous piece of information. Sure, groups can be good or bad. That's not the point at all. The problem is when you create these levers that drop treats and shock collars that punish, and condition people to the point that dissent is seen as an assault on the place that needs to be dealt with. In traditional social situations people can have simple disagreements and still be polite towards one another and if you're in a group you can always talk things over. I'll say it, we're not meeting each other on neutral ground. People reading this thread are probably more likely to agree with me than you. The thing is, this is YouTube so nobody gives a shit, I could get 50 likes and that wouldn't affect you at all. But if we had an argument on reddit in my home turf you could get ganged up on and lose a ton of karma for every post. You can say "I'm smarter than this, the numbers don't affect me" but if you then want to post on a subreddit that requires a minimum karma to post, you'll either have to farm it (probably just post Trump's face and text saying "Blonald Drumpf is the worst!") or create a new account. And you'll be more careful with your disagreements with that account. Right there your behavior is already being manipulated to fall in line, even if you consciously recognize you're walking on eggshells and that account isn't the real you.
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@tkmonson "move on and do something else" - Where do you think you are? "go look for a place where you can be yourself." - You find a place and that place is denied hosting. You find a new host and now that host is threatened by payment processors. Want a place? Step one is creating your own bank. "you are ultimately the one choosing to do it" - Again, that's the rationalization part. Humans are really good at it. It doesn't matter what your choice is. You were forced to make one, when you shouldn't have to. That choice already took control away from you. "they are only forcing you to change your behavior on that platform or subreddit" - So? You're not able to disseminate your ideas or disagreements. Just by forcing you to wear a mask, the social control aspect already won because now you can't propagate dissent by convincing others with your arguments. "Treats only control you if you eat them uncontrollably" - This is cope. The treats in this case control what people see. "Shock collars only work if you put them on. " - The only way to not put them on is to abandon social media. Congratulations, you've arrived at the same conclusion we did except through the most roundabout way.
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Is he an alcohol-enjoyer while driving too?
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Endless shitcoins are not an issue because whenever there is no demand for alternatives nobody has an incentive to accept them as form of payment.
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Most likely trade and tax records, with Africa and the Americas most likely by using average population density.
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Over the last few years it became a trendy thing to talk about and one or two years ago youtube pretty much promoted a van life channel that got like two million subs with three uploads. Nomadland is just a symptom of the times rather than the catalyst.
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Auch, my leg maaan...
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"overall society" dude you're literally asking for a BOTTOM TEXT to go with that society because the greater good of society will always be the pretext for tyranny. Individual rights don't exist for the good times and we agree on a line that if crossed they get suspended. Individual rights exist precisely for the bad times, because it's in the bad times that rights get ignored and trampled.
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@ReuelRamos "people on their majority haven't yet developed immunity" - How do you develop immunity without being exposed to it? Don't even mention immunity if you are pro-lockdown. "How can you support the argument of individual freedom when it threatens some else's health and life? That logic doesn't apply here." - Then it doesn't apply anywhere. How can you support the freedom to own a car when it threatens the lives of thousands every year? What about guns? Private property? Literally all your freedoms can be argued to affect others' health and lives.
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There was actually a recent case of a wholesaler coming out in support of a higher minimum wage and people lauded him as a hero, if he defends a higher wage it means Walmart has no excuse for paying such low wages! Nevermind that he employs less people per store than any Walmart and his employees are often more qualified than retail workers so he won't be affected by minimum wage laws as much as Walmart. (we could also get into the discussion that Walmart is essentially subsidized by the government but that's another topic in itself)
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Do you get something where if you start to type out something spicy, or there's enough "bad words", the entire paragraph turns red? It's not the browser because it happens on any browser, OS or computer I try, but I've asked around and nobody has seen this.
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@daa3417 Yeah it doesn't happen in the app.
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Never heard anyone use the square hectometer in real life, we just use hectares or square km when appropriate.
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@jonathanolson772 That's absolutely irrelevant to the point. I'm stating why creating altcoins doesn't threaten scarcity.
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@jonathanolson772 I'm going to ask again, exactly how is manipulation related to the fact that creating altcoins does not negate the scarcity of existing coins?
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@jonathanolson772 Still doesn't address how creating more coins does not make the established coins less scarce. By all means keep talking, but you're clearly invested in a narrative that has nothing to do with what the OP said.
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@dawkot6955 "there's no way to do it" - and yet youtubers have.
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@jonathanwarner1844 People mill their own custom boards and solder the components. I guess 3d printed wouldn't be that bad if you're waiting on a tabletop cnc router to mill every board, but one can straight up make metal cases by pressing metal with a hydraulic press. Patents? We don't need patents where we're going. But for real, most digital camera patents are probably expired by now unless you're stepping on some relatively new toes like compliant mechanisms being used as accelerators to force calculate a stabilized photo out of a burst or something that's only 7-5 years old. Plus, patents are part of the problem. The concept of intellectual property went too far. I get it. Someone still needs to make the copper covered plastic and spools of solder, and the capacitors and whatnot even if he was recording on a homemade camera. And the SD card? Yeah nobody's making those in their garage. But is his point invalidated by the fact that "no man is an island"? A lot of modern tech empires were built by a small team of nerds in a garage. Things always have a way of getting done. If there's people less dependent on the system, there's more relative demand for labor.
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I find forums extremely useful especially when dealing with older hardware, because if something dates back to when only Linus, 3dgameman and TigerDirect were doing hardware videos, I'm not going to learn anything from surface level reviews (and essentially advertising) with very few comments. However there's really obscure issues that I found the solution for by reading three or four forum threads and sanity checking what the responses are saying.
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"to watch Netflix in full HD you have to pay to get the bandwith, if you just want to watch the stupid blog, fine get 5 mbit / mont" - You are thinking of yourself and not the entire network. If a person is playing Fortnite or whatever in his 5mbit/sec connection, his game will be impacted by the thousands of people paying for the bandwidth to watch Netflix. Even though a videogame often only needs to send and receive game updates which are typically small. When you pay for bandwidth, you are not reserving your own lane in a highway. You still have to share with everyone.
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@douwehuysmans5959 "if everyone would torrent instead of Netflix, the same amount of bandwith would be used" - no, because the torrented file would be accessible multiple times. I don't know if anything has changed in the last two years, but Luke's argument is that Netflix would force you to redownload the video if you fell asleep and needed to go back to where you were. "Netflix DOES have to pay for the bandwith they're using" - Paying for what you're using is disingenuous. It's not how much they're using, it's how. It's a traffic pile up caused by Uber or whatever and Uber claims "we pay our taxes so we get to use the road" yeah but I want to use the road too and you clogged it!
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@douwehuysmans5959 I mean, the fact that internet connectivity does take a nosedive at peak load times contradicts your argument.
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@douwehuysmans5959 I am European and I have fiber. The network is overwhelmed due to the quick boom in video streaming usage.
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@gaafts Nothing has inherent value, as value is entirely subjective. Gold is "valuable" because compared to other metals it's more stable to chemical attack (doesn't tarnish or dissolve as easily), it's soft and can be easily melted which makes it easy to work with, it's dense which makes it difficult to cheat people by sticking another less valuable metal inside a gold bar, and like you mentioned it's rare enough that it's difficult to introduce it to the economy (aka getting money for doing "nothing"). On a vacuum gold isn't any more valuable than copper or iron, but it has the properties that make us think "uh, that gold sure is a better and more convenient form of currency". Your assumption is correct. It's the principle that makes something into a currency.
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Nice use of the Film Robert wojak.
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38 Year Old Consoomer/MovieBob Wojak
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@gaafts Or it's just a poster hung sideways.
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@MrEdrftgyuji but the cost of performing surveillance on that one person just rises exponentially because you need to maintain a satellite feed, helicopter, drones, etc. while a city of a million already has the infrastructure to perform surveillance on everyone for a fraction of a penny per individual. You can blend in a crowd when observed by humans, but not when the electric eye can just recognize you from the eyes and bridge of the nose and file a log.
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This is a riddiculous counterpoint considering that once you do pay your debt, it's your property.
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@liquidsnake6879 Subsidizing the customer is subsidizing the company. Lowering the price means more potential buyers, and the company is still pocketing the difference.
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Money being accepted as a token of exchange doesn't mean it's not propped up. Even if we assume the state will always be able to back fiat currency, the value of the currency is propped up by economic activity. See the ruble, since early 2022 its value pretty much halved as a result of sanctions.
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@moltonlava Next time just tell me to shut up, I'd actually respect that more.
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@Thomas-vd7ez Chief I'd rather trust nature on this one than the company with 2.3 billion payouts over medical fraud.
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@ReuelRamos "Modernly, with vaccines" - Had to sneak that one in there, didn't you? How is modernity different? For 99.99% of what you come in contact with, you develop immunity naturally. We don't vaccinate for every possible pathogen. "otherwise by killing millions by so called herd immunity" - As opposed to killing millions by just keeping this going on for longer. "Polio and smallpox can tell you that" - Funny thing about polio, the OPV allowed for vaccinated people to continue shedding a virus that was reactivated and could spread towards the nervous system and the IPV was found to have simian virus-40. That's what happens when you rush things. "we try to slowdown the rate of spreading" - We did that. We slowed it down. Obviously easing restrictions will bring the cases back up. So we go back under lockdown. We've already completed the original goal and now we're actually prolonging the suffering by making sure more fragile people get it. "When it was a common cold, it didn't seem like a big deal because the group immunity was already there" - No, it wasn't. You get the common cold precisely because it's caused by a multitude of different viruses for which herd immunity has not been achieved. "No ONE had yet this immunity thus the death count being so high" - Death count is high because excessive cycles are being used in the PCR test. Evidence suggests that the number of cycles is detecting remnants from the virus even in people who defeated the virus and are cured. If you die of diabetes, and you were in contact with the coof because of medical personnel or just other patients, you are added to the tally. This is by far the weirdest thing I've ever seen claimed about the outbreak - it's just like a cold but no herd immunity. Okay, but for that we should compare it to the number of people who die with the common cold virus on their body. "society through politics overall" - Society was a mistake, politics is the spawn of the devil. "not drinking and drinking" - That's a little hard. "I'm not necessarily against guns but I find it unnecessary to indiscriminately overflow society with them." - I don't think Luke is a gun guy either but one has to be seriously out of his mind to come to this channel and genuinely present bad faith arguments like these. What does "overflowing" with guns mean? From my point of view, the politics side of society, the one you praise to high heaven, wants us disarmed while they not only have private security but also wield the legal monopoly on force. All politics flows from the barrel of the gun like Mao supposedly said, and all law is backed by threat of violence. These are just the facts, and it doesn't require one to be a gun nut to accept the reality around them. If you think the false dichotomy is "no guns" and "overflowing with guns" instead of "relying on government" and "independence" you're looking at the problem from the peepee poopoo Republican vs Democrat rather than the actual underlying issue. "Private property has nothing to do with this discussion" - Of course it does. People are literally dying from not having access to your property. Capitalism kills a bajillion people every year. "unwilling to cooperate" - Your "cooperation" is enforced by armed thugs. "It's very convenient to mock the ones who have already passed away when it doesn't threat you because you are probably still young or healthier or 'stronger'. It has a name: Eugenia. " - This is your strawman, you have erected it (giggity). And if you want to call out eugenics then go complain about the pro-choice liberals or something, hell the conspiracy theories regarding the vaccine originate from Bill Gates himself saying we need to reduce the world population. Obviously it was decontextualized from any vaccination effort at the time, but it's your side that has literal eugenicists on your side. I'm simply for freedom.
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How does the speedtest know that?
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@otten5666 The thing is, how does the starlink server "know" it needs to ping back to speedtest instead of letting the client side respond? Do they just automatically pingback from speed test servers to BS their numbers?
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"The Flaws Of Academic Statistics: The Null Ritual" by Luke Smith 5 years ago
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Kickass 2 ripped off the Karate Kid 2 "girl cheats on main character" plot contrivance to nullify the first movie. Lazy as all hell.
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"If I paid for 100 mbps, I should get 100 mbps" - Services like Netflix are ensuring that you're not gonna get 100mbps at peak hours because your local hub will have thousands of people streaming video.
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 And airline companies overbook and gyms sell subscriptions to people who never show up. This is a fact of life. You don't want to pay the real price of what it costs to service you. You pay taxes to use the road, right? What would happen if everyone in your country decided to travel the same road? How dare the government charge your to build a road, and then everyone can't use it at the same time? How dare they "sell" you a road that they know is incapable of servicing the entire country?
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 Nobody brought up race. Airline companies do charge extra for heavy luggage, though.
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 "Netflix is literally the black people of internet traffic." - Okay redditor. "ISPs do charge extra for more data." - The issue here isn't data, but the fact that you're preventing "planes" from taking off. You can be extremely inconvenient while using very reasonable amounts of data. "Why should a byte of Netflix traffic cost more than a byte of other traffic?" - The issue is, a byte of Netflix, which isn't time-sensitive, shouldn't get ahead of people trying to play time-sensitive online games for example. And when your area is filled of people hogging bandwidth through Netflix, the service quality decays. "It would be like an airline saying your baggage is in a suitcase with the wrong branding, so it will cost 10% more. " - No, it's more like, you brought 300 suitcases and it's gonna take an extra hour to reshuffle the baggage because of load balancing inside the cargo bay, and everyone's pissed off that their plane isn't taking off and you say "excuse me, I paid for the extra luggage" as if your money pays for the inconvenience you're causing. No airliner would let you do that, that's how ludicrous this is.
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 "If the airliner is selling space for 300 suitcases, then any delays are completely their fault" - No. You missed every warning to start loading your luggage, and then right when everyone's ready for takeoff you suddenly want to load your shit on the plane. "If I bought space for 300 suitcases from the plane, why does it matter if it is 300 kg of my clothes or 300 kg of my hygiene products. I paid for data. Why does it matter if that data is a netflix video packet or a video game packet?" - The video game packet is only a small suitcase. Netflix is a bunch of suitcases and even though everyone needs to take off in time, you want to delay everyone's data with your streaming. "They absolutely would." - No, they would not. You'd get delayed. "It's a service called "cargo planes"." - The "cargo plane" service is a fast lane. Want a cargo plane? Hire one. "Those boots sure are delicious, huh?" - Buddy you're out here simping for large internet corporations and you're calling me a bootlicker? I'm not defending ISPs. I am attacking people like you, who believed the corporate propaganda simply because they thought they were being anti-corporation. "What if people hog bandwidth through streaming?" - They don't get to bitch and moan when ISPs prioritize online videogames over Netflix stability. "Or what if they hog bandwidth by writing huge emails and sending it to 1000s of people?" - Most email servers limit attachment sizes and I don't think anyone complains if an email arrives a half-second later. "ISPs then should offer low-latency high-priority internet connections." - According to Net Neutrality, that's illegal. That would not be "neutral". "What does this mean?" - If you have a 500GB limit per month, and use up 10GB per day from 9PM to 10PM, you'll be more of a nuisance than someone who uses 10GB from 9AM to 11PM.
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 "When I buy internet, I buy a certain connection speed." - When you pay taxes for your roads, you're not buying into a certainty you'll never get a traffic jam. "This argument is a pure con by a monopoly supported by lobbying to remove any regulations that still keep them in check." - I'm European. We have regulations. Internet performance dips during peak load times because, go figure, people blast 1080p and 4k content non-stop starting from 9PM till it's time to sleep. "No I won't if the ISP wasn't being greedy and selling much more bandwidth than their network could handle." - Okay, let's force ISPs to sell you the actual bandwidth they can guarantee you. Get ready for your blazing fast 1Mbps because the ISP has to divide their bandwidth by every household serviced by your local node. "A responsible ISP will factor in what percentage of users use their bandwidth at a certain time to calculate what speeds they offer." - And they most likely did that, and the only problem they had was torrenting. The issue was when video streaming took off and services started growing faster than infrastructure can get built. "You are completely missing the point. ISPs should not be allowed to discriminate against services" - Then why did you suggest it? "It would be like a road denying entry to BMW cars because Ford paid off the road owner." - Right now we're denying entry in certain roads to cars manufactured in 1996 and earlier. There's probably a diesel ban in the works. "If I am sending a letter through the post, why would it matter if my letter contains a political essay or a photograph" - Pretty sure corporations that deal with high volume of mail contract out special services to not overwhelm the normal mail carriers. Imagine if you couldn't send a letter because the local post office is stacked to the top with envelopes from a company that runs a mailing campaign. Even though envelope size might be the same, the aggressive mailing will occupy a larger volume and require more workload than an envelope with a photograph you send every day.
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@abdullahal-ahmati5030 "In China they implemented a policy where on certain days license plates that start with certain letters are banned from the road, which is exactly what throttling based on packet contents is like" - Having to wait a fraction of a second to let more time-sensitive packages get through before you isn't the same as getting blocked from Netflix on days ending with Y. "How did video streaming take off if ISPs hadn't oversold their capacity? If video streaming took off, that means people streamed video, which means ISPs could handle video streaming." - No shit, video streaming was easier to handle when only early adopters were doing it? "their bandwidth turned out to be a lie." - That's a way to look at it, but for the sake of consistency we'll need to abolish gyms, airlines and roads. The roads are a lie, the gyms are a lie, airlines are a lie. Nothing works if everyone decides to use it at the same time. "They are still allowed to offer services with different speeds and latencies. They just cannot throttle based on the contents of the data you are sending." - The fucking fast lane was the whole point of contention. People didn't want them. If you agree that fast lanes could be on offer, then you at least have to disagree with some of the NN slacktivists bitching about the issue. "But how does this analogy relate to byte packets? Unless you carry out Chinese-style packet inspection, all packets have mostly the same features. One packet does not emit more CO2 than another packet, and all packets fall within 200 bytes." - Engines made decades ago are less efficient and more pollutant, while the diesel compression requires a very lean mix to be introduced into the cylinder and causes atmospheric N2 and O2 to combine into NOx compounds. The molecule of fuel contains the same chemical energy no matter which engine you use, but those engines output more pollution for the same mechanical work put through the wheels. Either way, there's no China style packet inspection. My mobile carrier had a plan where I was given "unlimited"* data for certain apps. Then one day I get a text saying "oh yeah the regulatory agency told us that this free data shit is unfair and violates Net Neutrality so you're gonna pay up". They can zero-rate the apps but once you're through your data limit, you need to pay for extra data to use the zero-rated apps. It's fucking annoying. There was no China style inspection involved. "Netflix already pays huge amounts for their used bandwidth" - the issue is, services like Netflix are what's considered an "unreasonable" user. Check your contract. It probably has a reasonable use clause. They definitely had a special agreement with ISPs in place and they really disliked it, which is why internet companies started to lobby for NN. *about the "unlimited" data. It was actually 10-15GB. Never got anywhere close to the limit. But that was the reasonable use policy. "data centers closer to their customers" - Which can just as easily overwhelm the local network. It's a cold hard fact that things like online gaming experience deteriorate after 9PM because of peak load. Doesn't matter if the data Netflix sends isn't hogging the bandwidth on the Atlantic fiber cable, it's hogging the bandwidth near my access point.
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@tkmonson I'm sorry but to follow the logical train of thought hosting is indeed needed. If your first response to social control is running away and rejecting society as society becomes increasingly networked, you're just proving my point. "Just go outside and talk to people" - This is an admission of defat. You've already exposed how social control on the web creates a paradigm where the Skinner box promotes the good opinions by allowing them an audience of millions, and forces the bad opinions to be spread by word of mouth. Right there you're proving my point for me, but you think you're arguing about "muh freeze peach" and don't even realize you're describing exactly how social media shapes society. "all you need is a server that runs a discussion forum program, no payment required" - Payment is indeed required. Server costs are a thing. And even if you run your own server you need a domain name registrar. But it doesn't matter. You've already ran towards the little forum, while society remains in the big social media platforms. The fact that your forum can be nuked at any time by servers or payment processing companies is just the cherry on top. "it's refusing to be bothered by things like downvotes, hostile replies, or bans" - Downvotes don't only have a psychological impact, but they hide content and prevent users from interacting on certain subreddits, etc. You can refuse to get bothered, but the feedback loop continues. All your rambling about free speech and muh private business shows you don't even understand what you're talking about. You want to talk about free speech and private business, we can do that somewhere else. We're talking about social control, and so far you've described exactly how society is controlled through social media while talking about something else.
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@tkmonson "A natural political solution" - This transcends politics. "Ending net neutrality would be the true social control, and we should prevent that at all costs. " - But that's not what Net Neutrality is. NN is simply ISPs not being able to promote and disincentivize the use of certain services. Net Neutrality is essentially, if I'm torrenting next door to you while you try to play online games, our ISP is prohibited by law from letting your data cut in front of mine even though your use of the internet is time sensitive and mine isn't. That's all it is. Somehow NN advocates (big tech) managed to fool normies into thinking it protects the consumer when in reality it just protects tech monopolies.
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@tkmonson This is not about what any of us wants. Social media is a Skinner box, period. Don't get stuck in the debate club mentality when that's not what's happening here.
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Even the Western dystopia requires the tech overlords to twist themselves into pretzels and say the dumbest things imaginable to justify what they've done (such as the Patreon CEO coming out and justifying Sargon's ban on "MOB rule"), and Carl "Applebee's Suit" Benjamin is doing fine with the Lotus Eaters. If you think China is not a thousand times worse, you're giving them too much credit. Pun intended.
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Overpopulation is not coming from out of control births, but longer average lifespans.
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@conductingintomfoolery9163 No. Average lifespan has mostly levelled off in the developed world (in some countries it actually dipped by six months to a year). In Africa? Births per couple are decreasing, but they used to have 25-28 average lifespans a few decades ago due to child mortality, wars and famine/disease. Africa is not birthing more children - they're just hanging around longer.
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@conductingintomfoolery9163 Mozambique had a 34 (male) average lifespan in 1950. Angola had 34.7 (male). Yemen 28.1 (male). Liberia 32.6 (both sexes). Guinea 33.1 (both). In just 40-50 years many countries hitting the 60 mark means that people born 70 years ago are alive when statistically they wouldn't be at the time they were conceived. This is a MASSIVE increase in population. Your sink will overflow no matter how open the tap is if you plug the drain.
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Remember the Reddit AMA where Gates's solution to digital certificates was essentially peddling a digital certificate project his NGO was already involved with? Even if he doesn't stand to gain anything all his solutions have the subtlety of Musk proposing his articulating submarine but without twitter feuds.
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 @henrikmunch8609 Understanding chess is way more impressive than winning. We've had chess engines win at chess before, who cares?
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The funny thing is that the couple working on it were both engineers if I remember correctly. We don't have just soydevs, we have soygineers.
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Youtube became profitable a couple of years ago. It was ran at a loss before.
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I've noticed that whenever I post a comment about a spicy subject I end up writing a keyword that turns a whole parahraph red. But I can post the comment and others can read it. I tried looking up this "comment turning red" feature and nobody seems to know about it or report it.
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I exclude the sites that annoy me and search results become even more irrelevant.
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Money is simply a token of exchange. If money is the wrong thing, so is everything it represents.
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@jonathanolson772 How is scarcity a moot point when a non-scarce coin that can be issued at will is completely worthless? I'm not even mentioning Bitcoin at this point.
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@jonathanolson772 Again, that is correct but it changes nothing. Scarcity is a requirement for a coin, but if people are dumping worthless trash in a landfill we can't exactly call it "scarce" when nobody even bothers to pick it up.
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@jonathanolson772 Trash is not scarce because you can get as much of it as you want right now.
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"How am I paying for everyone else's bandwidth in a NN system? If I don't use streaming or other intensive services then I pay for a lower kbps." - There's still plans with kbps? (I realize some people live in underserviced zones, it's a joke) You are paying for everyone else's bandwidth. The ISP is not charging you for those "kbps" or "mbps", the ISP is charging you a rate they think makes them enough money to maintain their business and still be able to pocket something for themselves. Their service is tiered but whatever they charge for the lowest tier is based on a function of how many people actually want this tier and how much are they willing to pay for it. "You imply through your images that trivial entertainment like porn, cartoons and a Christmas Story are a less worthy usage of bandwidth than posting on 4chan or sharing your linguistics paper" - But that's not the point. Video streaming, especially done in very optimized fashion, requires more bandwidth. Posting on 4chan requires almost nothing. It's not moralism, it's the fact that I'm being a "good neighbor" and everyone else is being a "bad neighbor" by hogging bandwidth. "which is an entirely subjective evaluation that neither you nor, and more to the point, ISPs have any right to make" - Truckers pay higher toll taxes in many countries. I'm pretty sure that size and weight of a vehicle is an objective evaluation. And the state or private entity that manages the road has the right to judge the cost of using the road based on the class of vehicle. "I don't care what other people use their bandwidth for, I'm going to be making my purchasing decisions based on my own usage, not anyone else's." - But that's actually the problem. When I need to turn around in a fast paced video game that only needs to phone to the server with updates in position and game state to get that guy who's about to shoot me, I have thousands of people on Netflix who are trying to get their packets around me who are negatively impacting my ability to have my shot accurately recorded by the server. Everyone is thinking for themselves, and ignoring how they're being a nuisance to other users. And they won't even realize it because their show isn't time-sensitive and it buffers ahead.
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You strategically stopped reading before the word "hype" came up. Curious.
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That's a cheap jab. Apart from the sensor and microchips most components on a camera can be produced locally.
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That's actually rare, though. Developers often can't finish games due to strict deadlines, but between a game going gold and actually being available to players there's a time period that is used to create extra content to offset the cost of development. There may be extra monetization plans and even writing for those extras before principal development actually starts but it's extremely rare that the DLC "finishes" the game. It's mostly stuff that ended up on the cutting room floor and even be a total "spin off" from the main story and playing through it doesn't in any way make the experience more complete. For example I got the complete edition of Homefront: The Revolution on sale and while the base game is a Ubisoft open world checkbox the two story DLCs are more like longer linear missions that in no way affect the main game. I don't think anyone cares about spoilers, so in one of the DLC the story that was already finished gets an epilogue where the main character dies roasted inside a missile silo while flipping the bird at two Norks. To me the story ended with the original game and I would have never bought the DLC, I ended up with them because of the aforementioned sale. Things like Shark Cards in GTA and the player packs from FIFA are way more egregious than forgettable DLC that isn't in any way necessary to make the original game worthwhile. I do think the old style expansion packs are superior. though.
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I don't think it's a matter of wanting to talk about technology, it's about earning validation about their path. Me? I started linux through a knoppix live CD because my XP install got absolutely borked by a corrupted drive and I needed to recover documents. Now give me dopamine through social media.
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So you don't care about warrantless spying and don't care that you don't own the content you produce. Why exactly should we even take those arguments seriously?
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@Jimmy_The_Goat You already accepted the spying, so you have no option but important information being spied on. You also missed the point. If you've already given up the pub picture you'll end up having to give up a lot more. This type of mindset in the past is what lead us down this path, and people for whatever reason think embracing it is better than fighting.
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@Jimmy_The_Goat "You're delusional if you think you can change anything" - You're delusional if you think apathy isn't going to lead us further into the abyss. "they'll just send a SWAT team" - Good. A judge will have to look at evidence and sign off on it. There's no enough SWAT teams to handle everyone, and at one point their numbers will start to dwindle once it becomes common for the first guy in the stack to catch hot metal. "If you truly care for privacy all that much you should go into politics and change the governmnet" - LMAO. You don't change the government, the government changes you. "If I wish something to remain private, I don't upload it. Boom problem solved!" - So the internet is only for things that are for the public domain. Why did we allow online banking to become a thing, then?
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@Jimmy_The_Goat "I said that you're delusional if you think puny consumer activism" - I never advocated for any CONSOOMER activism.
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@Jimmy_The_Goat No, me telling the people who say "who cares lol" that they're stupid and consenting to their loss of freedoms is not activism, it's simply me being the guy who was right all along and all the stupid people will remember me and realize they were indeed wrong.
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Everyone's a new user at some point. You either gotta be willing to learn or develop an attitude. Seems like you're inclined towards the latter.
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@thepardigon178 most of the boomer comments are positive but accept my tactical withdrawal.
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"state backed crypto probably won't be created" - It probably will, but for nefarious reasons. "Since noone can then pay for anything with them, they are DONE." - Okay. Legally speaking you cannot pay for anything with drugs. You'd be surprised at the amount of things you could buy with coke. "Main problem with cryptocurrencies is they simply have no source of value" - Nothing has source of value. "They are not made of anything precious, and they have no state backing." - Baseball cards also aren't made of anything precious or have state backing. People will pay a pretty penny for the rare ones.
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@siwiecministro1994 The black market is a perfect example because it outright nullifies any claim that banning something will make it impossible to use. People who do drugs see drugs as valuable. People who want to move money outside the system see crypto as valuable. And will do quite a lot to get it. Collectors are a good example. Something is in demand. People will pay for it. Just like the state sets the currency as the way to pay taxes, society can set crypto as the way to move money outside the system.
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@eugenemorozov If you relocate an ethnic group out of a certain area that's ethnic cleansing, ya doof. "There was no genocide - it's a western propaganda" - There was genocide, denial is Russian propaganda. "UK, which is a capitalist country, committed genocide in Burma and India, so what?" - That so what seems to me like a thinly veiled admission that you don't care that communists are murderous scum. I'm not British nor did I ever defend the actions of the British. "Who does remember that now?" - That was literally Hitler's argument. "Who remembers the Armenians?" "USA started from genocide of native indians" - But almost nobody denies that happened, while Soviet genocide deniers are extremely common. "So if you compare atrocities committed by capitalist UK and USA societies - they're much worse." - Not by much. The tally of people killed by socialist states in the 20th century alone is almost half of the number of people killed by all governments in the same time period.
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@eugenemorozov "There were some bad things" - You already contradicted "Soviet Union was doing well" in your first argument. So I think my job is done. "Also, all the nations that joined USSR (e.g. baltic states) had significantly growing population" - Nice Nazi tactic. The Nazis also claim that the Jewish population growth disproves the holocaust. Either way, census records from for example Ukraine do prove that there's a missing 3-4 million people. Even though population grew, it did not grow as fast as expected because deaths were so high. Stalin had the heads of the census board arrested and the following census the numbers were forged. "which is now severely declining" - Population is declining all over the West too. Birth rates were higher back then. They're lower now. It doesn't mean we're murdering people, it means we're not having as many babies.
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What did I miss?
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@swindlesmccoop Not directly related to attention span but I know people who were part of labs that ran clinical trials while in college and knew how fucky they usually are. I explained to them how the trials for the uhhhhhhhh """product""" were fudged and honest to God it's like seeing an android reboot. Reddit and twitter deboonkers have turned smart people into brainlets.
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@vlad.the.impaler. Over her shoulder, bottom left corner of Luke's facecam.
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@johnjackson9767 based and tedpilled
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In many places of the world people do not have unlimited calls/texts. If I used texts like a chat I'd burn through my monthly limit fast.
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>you can be inside the system but so peripherally that you're functionally independent even if only for a couple of weeks or a month until you require the system's commodities again >you can be in contact with peers or motivate yourself, hell I'd have a ton of projects I'd get into if I were in the countryside >nobody needs to live in poverty to enjoy the countryside, if you acquire skills you can trade them for money and engage with the system at will so you can CONSOOM product
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Yeah, capitalism is shit for giving people a choice, in fact we should shoot the local farmer in the head for being a kulak.
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How do you outlaw me writing an IOU in a piece of paper and handing it to you?
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@JamesSmith-ix5jd It doesn't have to be accepted at the store. As long as you can come to me and force me to honor that debt, that piece of paper I scribbled on holds its value. Now extrapolate. There's a million people around the world who will accept my IOU. That means you can shove that piece of paper inside a book, travel to another country, find a trader who will accept my IOU, and give you your money back. It's infinitely easier than moving drugs. How do you ban it? There's a reason criminals loved the 500 Euro bills. It's a pain in the neck to move cash. Can you shove a million dollars inside a book and go through an airport?
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Some guy in Brazil owed a boatload of money to the government (don't remember if it was taxes) so he sold all his assets and converted to bitcoin.
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@promo242 No idea because I don't remember his name, a friend of mine told me about it became he became a legend in Brazilian libertarian and ancap circles. It's presumed he fled the country but I could be misremembering it.
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@promo242 Sometimes they claim they "seized" it but the government doesn't actually have access to the account. This month it was reported that the German authorities seized a bitcoin wallet worth 60 million but they don't have the private keys and the owner refused to hand it to them. Articles from 2013 say that the feds never got Ross Ulbricht's private keys either so despite the bitcoins being "seized" the government can't actually access them.
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Money isn't a form of speech is a lot of countries but we're still fucked by regulation.
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@kas1987kas what, you think liberal media would ever teach your about it?
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"If I pay for 20 mbps, I wont affect the network by more than 20 mbps. If ISPs can't keep up with what they promise" - but like gyms selling subscriptions to people who don't exercise or airliners overbooking, you'll suffer the sticker shock if you're suddenly charged the "real value" it costs to keep your service running.
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@Thomas-vd7ez And this means I'll implicitly trust them with a rushed product?
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@Thomas-vd7ez They fucked up taking out the horse meat out of the lasagna. Pre-made lasagnas tasted like ass for years because they were forced to use the cheapest cow meat, while the horse was delicious. Rigorous. Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't there a notice not to take the shot if you have allergies or are pregnant because there wasn't a statistically significant number of pregnant women in the trials? A lot of the products I trust were not rushed, were not tied to draconian house arrest orders or a crippling economic crisis, and have years of existence on the market.
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Sure. It's just terribly impractical to dedicate that much processing power.
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In my country it's technically illegal but it's not prosecuted, the compromise is that every purchase of digital storage has a tax per GB.
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@ferouihamza With inflation I barely noticed it. It's an issue for professional photographers because RAW takes up a ton of space and thus they felt the increase due to their regular purchase of storage.
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