Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "The Jimmy Dore Show"
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@hv3115 "75% of people in Ontario who end up getting hospitalized" - And as we have seen, Hamburg in Germany did not verify status of 70% of their hospitalizations, and added them up to the unspiked numbers. They're not verifying status on purpose and registering them as unknowns, then using unknowns as "unspiked" in their official data. One region is one country has been caught lying. Do we have to do this for every single square inch of land around the world or are you open to admitting that Ontario is lying too?
"omits the point that having [...] mandates to ensure a high percentage of the population is vaccinated is the humane" - Nothing humane about threatening to kick people out of restaurants, gyms and JOBS. You're threatening people's livelihoods. Morally, you're holding a gun to someone's head. You're willing to kill that person by denying them a way to make a living.
"without hospitals getting overwhelmed" - Okay, and now we're back to square one. They're still claiming to be overwhelmed despite many countries having 50, 60, 70, 80 and 90% spiking rates. What's your plan of action now? More mandates?
"But let's not pretend [...] dont help control this [...]" - Doesn't seem very controlled to me. You get no actual immunity, you can still spread, and the protection is only strong for 3-4 months. This means you're trying to keep it under control with an improper tool that should be a last resort and given to the vulnerable. If you try to spike the whole population, you don't have enough shots to keep the 3-4 month window with the vulnerable.
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@jamesmorrow1646 Sabeena Ahmed, "A five-day course of iver[...]", International Journal of Infectious Diseases; Zaki F Aref, "Clinical, Biochemical and Molecular Evaluations of Iver[...]", International Journal of Nanomedicine; F.A.Cadegiani, "Early COVID-19 therapy with azithromycin plus nitazoxanide [...]", New Microbes and New Infections; Carvallo Hector, "Safety and Efficacy of the Combined Use of Iver[...]", Journal of Clinical Trials; Abu Taiub Mohammed Mohiuddin Chowdhury, "A Comparative Study on Iver[...]", EJMO.
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@coolioso808 Christ please stop posting novels.
"This not MY process, this is the scientific process" - Don't deny responsibility now.
"many positive, collaborative, healthy incentives" - Unsubstanciated.
"In a more egalitarian system, there would be much less influence and reasons to commit crime" - This is disproven by history. Human living was much more violent back when it was more egalitarian.
"not everything's ripe for the taking, all resources are inventoried" - And who enforces it?
"An efficient system would have the resources available to produce a product, like a t-shirt, as locally available as possible, and able to use advanced automated machines, like 3D printers, to produce most items on demand" - And how would you know how much filament is needed for the 3d printer?
"Again, in the US alone, 40% of all food is wasted" - That's even more insane. So now you're going to predict demand 6 months in advance?
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@justinshin2279 1. Meanwhile in the real world, cardiac complications nearly doubled in Israel compared to the 2019-2020 average, due to a mass campaign that was not worth the trouble because it affected people who were not likely to get complications from the disease.
2. You're being wishy-washy, not pragmatic. There is no nuance in using unchecked corporate power to sidestep the issue of unchecked government power. Privatizing the means of control is not pragmatism. It's a fundamentally anti-human stance and you need to own up to it.
3. I am entitled to say that the people responsible for restrictive regulations need to suffer punitive action. If I screw up on my job, I can get fired. I care about what's happening in the real world - real politicians are using real political power irresponsibly and you're saying it's not really happening because people this time have chosen not to comply. Even though at least 60% are complying, but that's just a tiny little detail. Do you have a single argument that isn't running interference for these people?
4. That's whataboutism. For twenty years I've spoken against a multitude of issues and you don't get to shame me just because you're Johnny come lately and didn't see me do it. Meanwhile, you have a paradigm shift that's going to affect regular people even more than the War on Terror did, and your concern is "dude weed lmao". We already congratulated drugs for winning the war on drugs. You say things aren't an issue if people don't comply, seems to me drug laws are something people have no issue with non-compliance so I don't need to press that further. This is going to affect even more people than the war on drugs, essentially unpersoning them without trial or conviction. If you thought plea deals were rough, that is worse.
5. Florida is a partial point of contact state where FDLE is responsible for the check even though they use the FBI NICS system. From what I understand other states can place a NICS flag on you, and FDLE cannot do anything about it so there's non-prohibited persons failing checks in Florida. Your acquaintance may need to check the conditions for his discharge, what state it happened in, etc to get it cleared out.
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@yarnpower "Tax cuts meant less income for the federal govt." - but that's false. Tax revenue actually increased. In 1980 receipts were 517k Million dollars, 1981-599k M, 1982-617k M, 1983-600k M, 1984-666k M, 1985-734k M, 1986-769k M, 1987-854k M, 1988-909k M. The income actually grew, in fact almost doubled.
"so they in turn had less to send back to each state" - not only is the premise that the government was taking less tax income false, but even if that was true that doesn't cause tuition to rise. States could easily bump sales, property or income tax. I want some documentation proving that state governments all together decided to increase tuition as a tax collection scheme because there have to be meetings on record and bills passed that put this theory on paper.
"Private colleges then felt free to raise their rates." - that doesn't even make sense. If state college becomes more expensive for factors unrelated to private schools then they get a boost in enrollment. That could explain a slight increase in tuition costs simply because demand is higher than the supply - more students trying to join than a college can accommodate - but it wouldn't explain a 1000 percent increase over the last few decades. Are the states still trying to cover up a budget hole after all these years?
Please come to your senses. Are private colleges still in a race to the top with states trying to raise an infinite amount of taxes by bumping tuition costs?
Or does the existence of laws that make banks profit off excessive loans create a spike in demand that allows the supply side to keep increasing prices?
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@mikemurray2027 But they'd be better paid and have better care in other countries. What does it matter if the US has the wealth if they are not going to get a cut of it? If you were Iraqi, would you seriously think "yes Americans killed my family and destroyed my home, I will move there and work for under minimum wage and no healthcare because that's where the wealth is". Do you think this makes any sense at all?
"you can't deny that there is US aggression against the countries these poor people are fleeing from, nor can you deny they are fleeing." - Weird way to frame the discussion. Of course I can't deny it, I'm also against US imperialism and foreign intervention. That doesn't mean I can't question the logic I'm being fed, especially when it suspiciously lines in with establishment talking points.
"If you maintain they are coming to the promised land of the USA" - Why is it a promised land?
"why then are they fleeing other capitalist countries that are allies of the USA" - Don't see how this makes the US a people magnet.
"whose leaders have been installed by the USA" - Still don't see how this attracts people.
"whose economic and social policies have been forced on them by the USA" - Still not seeing how this attracts people.
"with bombs, terrorism, death squads, genocide, assassination, etc etc?" - THIS SHOULD SEND PEOPLE RUNNING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Again, I am against all of those things. You don't need to pitch this idea to me. All I'm asking is, can you explain why people who by all accounts should hate the US, and will live very poor lives in the US, decide to move to the US? Because none of what you said actually answers the question. If China destroyed my home, why would I move to China? If my government was a China puppet, why would I move to China? If my home country was an ally with China, why would that make me want to move to China?
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Marten Dekker Sure, that's why "liberal democracy" is a thing. Sorry, but liberalism is inherently capitalist. You should look up what liberalism means. Libertarians are often called "classical liberals".
"A country that has a fairly regulated capitalist market, and socialized healthcare, education, transportation, roads, libraries, and basic welfare income for the disadvantaged... Is not only capitalism" - But it is capitalist nonethelesss.
"and it is not only socialism it is a blend of the two" - There is no blending. You can't blend poison and antidote. You can't blend matter and antimatter. Socialism is the antithesis of capitalism and prohibits capitalist activity. You think socialism is simply government doing stuff. That's not what it means.
"Just because you want to use the term socialism to only mean the all encompassing form , is daft..." - It's not me! The people who created socialism wanted it that way! Go tell real socialists that they're still capitalists. See how that goes. You're the one who wants to use "socialism" to mean something it doesn't, the reason why not being clear, and insisting everyone else is wrong. Including socialists themselves.
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"When you're less likely to be infected, less likely to have a high virus load, and clear the virus faster, that means you're less likely to infect others." - But you're still infectious, meaning that all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.
"Only the delta variant" - And we have incoming variants that are also resistant. That's the evolutionary pressure. If anything, the unvaccinated are keeping the non-resistant strains alive.
"This is typical of none of the dozens or hundreds of daily contacts people have." - This seems like more of a critique of the lockdowns than anything else. If the people who are in close contact and then have hundreds of daily contacts are not the issue, then the lockdowns were a crime against humanity.
"Households with vaccinated people who never caught the virus are omitted." - What would be the point of including them? To measure effectiveness you have to narrow down on the ones who were exposed. That's how the trial of the shots was done. Not focusing on the 43k people who never got infected. But the 177 unvaccinated who got sick and the 8 vaccinated that got sick. Those who got exposed? They don't matter. Can't measure effectiveness without putting the stuff through the paces.
"the less the strain on health services" - They're strained not by being overwhelmed, but due to continuous pressure. There's staff shortages, people quitting.
"Subsequent variations are expected to be less lethal; it's better to be infected later than sooner." - So we should have locked down the vulnerable and let it burn through the healthy to generate the less lethal variants? We instead let it burn through the elderly and then the less lethal variants spread to the healthy. Great job. We did it.
"Medications and treatment protocols are being improved and developed; again, later, rather than sooner." - They were known pretty soon. We know exactly the mechanism that is killing people. But if you treat them... there goes the emergency use authorization.
"There's even a new generation of vaccines coming, which will, hopefully, provide even better protection" - Don't hold your breath. It's a money making racket and they're dishing out a third shot of an outdated variant.
This is an instance where we can't help but talk past each other. All you're saying is technically correct. And I believe it's absolutely worthless. Oh, this only applies to Delta? Tough titties, the shot is made for the 2019 Wuhan strain, a two year old strain. There's more variants coming and they're also under evolutionary pressure to infect the vaccinated. If daily outside contacts don't matter, then there's no public service being done. Sorry to be an asshole about it. I'm not questioning the things you're saying, which are probably all true. But there's logical reasons why those things are absolutely worthless to me and many others. I'm happy to see you're also against mandates. I simply think the corruption goes to the top and there's no "actual" benevolent way to implement the measures they want. I think their measures actually made things worse and they killed people for money.
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