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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Glenn Greenwald Strongly Disagrees With Carlos Maza’s Tactics" video.
@Puppet Master all anti-censorship people want all voices in the platform.
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@BlakeBigfoot and how is that relevant? Okay, people who are 90-99% anti censorship want everyone to be allowed on the internet platforms. Big fucking difference, mate. Totally changed the conversation.
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@BlakeBigfoot "that's a fallacy." - were you going to elaborate or do you just shout fallacy whenever you hear a different opinion? "People on the right are FAR more pro-censorship than ANY leftist" - my dude I'm not the kind of idiot who ask for sources for things that can't be proven by any reasonable metric but the claim that the left is not pro censorship is going to need some serious fucking citations behind it. I've had this discussion multiple times and the left essentially argues that to uphold leftist values reactionary speech has to be curtailed. You're just going to do the "not real leftists" thing and weasel away. I get this same shit on the guns and "personal vs private property" debates, from my own sampling done both in real life and on the internet leftists in general and even anarchist-left people are very anti-gun because widespread gun ownership would allow reactionary action. I don't even know how would a stateless society enforce gun control, but it puts a smile on my face whenever the "but muh real leftists are pro gun" people show up to the comments section. "Just because they toot the "anti-censorship" horn doesn't mean their actual beliefs and actions line up" - wow if you want to line up beliefs and actions the left has absolutely no ground to stand on considering almost every system started by the left ended up as "MUH NOT REAL SOCIALISM". "it usually is an indicator of someone who doesn't even know what censorship is. " - oh wow now I'm fucking interested, I wanna hear your definition of censorship.
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@BlakeBigfoot by using insults you admit to have lost, thanks for playing.
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@BlakeBigfoot so you refuse to even indicate which fallacy was used , give up and resort to insults, call me a "literal fascist" even though I hate fascism and upvote your own comment? "Real" leftists, everyone.
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@BlakeBigfoot "You hate a concept of fascism that doesn't exist" - my family was born into fascism. We know what fascism is. You have never lived under it. "while inadvertently being an actual fascist" - proof? "just because your ideas aren't popular doesn't mean I upvote my comments. It just means your ideas aren't popular." - I clicked the notification for your comment and less than a minute after posting you already had an upvote. Your deflection of the subject to my opinions is a strong indication that I hit a nerve.
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@BlakeBigfoot "the entire claim was a fallacy so what specifics do you want me to give?" - every fallacy can be described. You haven't been able to even describe what kind of fallacy it was. I'm not even asking for the specific name of the fallacy, just what kind of logical fault was triggered. Hell, if anything your argument in itself was fallacious because you deflected the conversation into irrelevant semantics. Like a person who doesn't wish for people to be deplatformed cannot be considered anti-censorship because he also holds the belief that (for example) he is against child porn being posted on the internet. So in an argument about deplatforming a person can't be said to hold a certain position because of opinions that are completely irrelevant and don't even matter to the topic at hand.
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