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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "How Stealth Changed Modern Warfare" video.
"had no problem picking it up on radar" - they lost lock twice before they got a firing solution, and even then one of the two missiles fired failed to track until impact and the pilot saw it zooming past in front of him.
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@ajvanmarle A jamming pod is a homing beacon for home-on-jam missiles. The point isn't how much missiles cost, yeah they're cheap compared to airplanes, my point is that it was hard to track the F-117 and even when they could, one of the missiles lost lock by itself (the F-117 pilot did not know he was being painted by radar and did not maneuver to break lock). Look at what it took for the shootdown to happen: the Americans had to overuse the same flight routes and allow defenses to notice the pattern, Zoltán Dani made it a operational procedure to relocate radars after 40 seconds of operation to avoid losses to AGM-88 missiles, it took observers and P-18 radars to relay information about the incoming F-117 and any supporting flights, and they lucked out by detecting the open bomb bay door from 23km away. There was also confirmation that there was no SEAD support for those F-117s so Dani broke his own rules and tried a third attempt to track the target. It took several factors all combined at the same time to perform the shootdown, it was not done before and never replicated since. If jamming pods worked that well, they'd have flown over Baghdad. The fact that F-117s went in alone to start Desert Storm, while the other strike aircraft required EW and SEAD support to protect them from air defenses is proof that stealth works.
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"No gun; mistakes, mistakes...." - The F4 Phantom made 90% of its kills with missiles. The issue in Vietnam wasn't the gun because the ambushes made it impossible for F4s to speed up to give chase, let alone get close enough for a gun kill.
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Seemed pretty good when the F-117s bombed Baghdad and ground crews started firing into the air in panic because they couldn't tell where the planes were.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic
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@Ivan_StandWithUkraine You said Russia didn't exist until 1991. Not only it was false, because the Tsardom of Russia and the Russian Empire existed before the USSR, it didn't even make sense because Russia did not stop existing even when it was part of the USSR. During the USSR, even though it was one of 15 countries it was not 1/15th of the USSR. It had the majority of territory and population.
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@Ivan_StandWithUkraine The point wasn't the missiles, it was you claiming that Russia didn't exist. It did. Now you're grasping at straws by pretending that different political systems means a country doesn't exist (by that logic France didn't exist until the Republic was formed). Also, if the design bureau was Russian I'd call the missiles Russian even if the program lead wasn't. NASA was American even if Von Braun wasn't.
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@Ivan_StandWithUkraine My point is that you call people ignorant but then say things like "Russia didn't exist" when it did. I know all about your kind of people. You obsess over this type of mistake for so long you end up creating your own mistakes.
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But it isn't.
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"I believe the receivers could even use radar emissions from the enemy to find an aircraft" - Not only is it standard procedure to turn the radar off to minimize detection, but modern radars also scramble their emissions to mask themselves as background radiation. There's TV, radio, etc waves that receivers filter out.
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"then isnt there so many non-stealth jets shot Down?" - The US lost seven A-10/AO-10 during the 1991 Gulf War, with more receiving heavy battle damage and limping back to base.
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The only thing that changed was flight planners not using the same routes every night. If it was so easy it would have happened more times. It happened once.
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A golf ball will not reflect enough energy until it gets very close to the emitter. Radiation energy decays by the inverse square law. Energy will decay from emission to aircraft, and then decay again from aircraft to receiver. A golf ball's reflection will be lost in the atmosphere and not make it to the receiver.
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"unproven" - you can literally see the Baghdad air defenses fire blindly into the air in panic as bombs fell and they could not see where they were coming from.
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