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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "The Rise u0026 Fall of the Harrier Jump Jet" video.
@user-kc1tf7zm3b Different roles. Harrier is STOVL and Hornet is CATOBAR. You can't take off a Hornet from a helicopter carrier. But you can with a Harrier.
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@Jerakeen2826 The Marines had funding issues in regards to the Harrier. The AV8B had problems with the engine, the flaps, the nose wheel steering, etc and it was difficult to get a blanket fix to everything so they had to make do and kick the can down the road for years.
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The Harrier suffered disproportionate losses during Desert Storm. It's simply outdated and vulnerable.
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@williamrutter3619 The modern anti-aircraft systems the US has to contend with are the S-300 and S-400. As we have seen in Ukraine, the ATACMS ballistic missile dispatches them with ease. Storm Shadows also make their way through. Also, you are lying in regards to the 29% being operational. It's around 60%. I'd suggest you stop parroting propaganda coming from contrarians and enemies of our states and our way of life. Composites can be repaired. What the hell are you even talking about?
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Harriers had a dismal mishap rate. The F-35 Lightning II has an excellent safety record with only 1.6 crashes per 100,000 flight hours.
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Not worth it. It still paints the fuselage with exhaust, meaning IR seeking missiles just have a huge beacon to follow and nail a direct impact. Modernizing it wouldn't net the advantages we're looking for. It would be extremely expensive for almost no gain.
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There's no such thing as excess torque. You either have to sap engine power from the hot thrust to drive the fan or run the engine harder to get the torque to drive the fan. If excess torque existed, we could just hook up an extra generator to nuclear and gas power plants and just enjoy free electricity from that "extra torque".
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@rodh2168 The origin of Russian VTOL was the Yak-38 which has nothing to do with the F-35B. The Yak-141 had the three bearing swivel nozzle which was taken from the Convair Model 200, and no lift fan. Yes, the narrator said it had a lift fan. He was wrong. The Soviets never developed a lift fan.
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@spacechannelfiver For what it is, it has excellent range and weapons payload. You cannot get a STOVL aircraft better than the F-35B. The F-35B is such an overmatch for the Harrier it's not even funny.
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Not true. Stop listening to propaganda.
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@andersjjensen But it's vulnerable in the ground attack mission. People focus on air to air, but you need protection from the ground itself. Ground units will not just lay there and take it, they will fire back at aircraft.
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It was absolutely necessary. Aircraft are not classic cars you can keep on the road with a change of oil and new tires. They suffer microscopic damage every hour they spend in the air, and when reaching the end of their life they will require more and more maintenance to keep problems at bay. If you think automobiles can be money pits, you've never had to foot the bill for the operation of an ageing aircraft. It doesn't matter what other countries have stealth, because having stealth is not about others having stealth. You want to have it because it makes your aircraft hard to target. Why would you want to be easy to target? The Harrier, like any aircraft, in unsuited for eternal service. Unless you have pristine airframes in your pocket you just found and are willing to share, you're asking for museum pieces to keep getting worn down while live humans who cost millions to train have to get inside them as they slowly but surely break themselves apart.
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That means having to carry a separate powerplant which is dead weight during level flight.
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Neither the Yak-38 or Yak-141 had a forward lift fan. They used smaller jet engines pointed downwards. The F-35's lift fan solution is unique.
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@yootoobnz They're turbojet engines.
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Yet the F-35 is an export sales success story. The B variant has allowed nations to use their helicopter carriers to field a 5th gen fighter force. It's the cheapest upgrade one could ever ask for as any nation who replaces their Harriers or buys them while already having a helicopter carrier suddenly turns into a 5th gen naval power. No-one, nobody but the USA, has the power to sell you an item that upgrades your naval status like the F-35B.
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Stealth is a requirement. You will be targeted and hit. Reducing the opportunities to be targeted ensures survival. Everyone else is a flying beacon asking to be missile bait.
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@johnladuke6475 The F-35B serves on the exact same type of ships the Harrier does.
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@originalkk882 A high subsonic aircraft is at a kinematic disadvantage.
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@Degsie1975 Would you use a Harrier that's way past it's airframe limits?
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@Degsie1975 What Ukraine has shown is that stealth is the price of admission. If you don't have stealth, you don't fight. You lob weapons from far away and run back to base. If Ukrainians had F-35s, you'd see insane levels of CAS being deployed while MANPADS can't do anything. MANPADS pick off those flying low to evade radar. When you can fly high and not be targeted by radar, you can fly outside the visual range of MANPADS operators.
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@Degsie1975 Even old MANPADS are deadly to the Harrier because the hot engine exhaust paints the entire rear end of the fuselage with thermal energy. While other aircraft leave an exhaust plume for missiles to seek, the Harrier makes itself a huge IR beacon and a cheap old MANPADS just looking for the hot source will directly impact the fuselage. MANPADS have small warheads to them seeking the exhaust plume, missing, and detonating by proximity fuze basically take out aircraft by forcing them to limp back to base with fragments in the tail and get sidelined until they can be repaired. A Harrier has the troublesome position of taking a direct impact, which even with a small warhead can compromise the structural integrity of the airframe.
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And neither had a lift fan.
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That's not true, stop spreading the 29% number, it only exposes you as uninformed.
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And the Yak-141 swivel nozzle was a copy from the concept in the Convair Model 200.
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The USAF never operated Harriers, so to quote The Simpsons: "Boy I hope someone was fired for that blunder"
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Youtube does that, not the uploader. Jesus Christ is this your first day online? Stop being such a snowflake when you don't even know how youtube comments work.
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Runways can be easily repaired. There's a reason anti-runway weapons have to be devious, like the rocket ones which fire a thruster so that it punches under the concrete pad foundation and dislodges the entire thing by detonating underneath, or the runway cratering weapons which also deploy AP mines with both anti-handling and timed fuze features so that they keep going off at random times and prevent an engineering team from repairing the runway until EOD clears the lot or just lets them keep going off for a day or two. Drones? They can make a hole, and the hole gets filled with a patch.
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@tannerbobanner9453 "well, jets" so they take the unintelligent brute force option and have two jet engines which do nothing during conventional flight. The Mirage had done that decades early. They get no points for replicating an old brute force solution.
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