Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Daniel Marans: How Will Yang Fare After Israel Comments?" video.

@cluelessjoe5745 I'm not up to speed with Yang's statements on China, but you have to stop thinking that China thinks like the Americans do. They don't see a Chinese-American. They see an American. Again, I don't remember much of Yang's campaign for the democratic nomination so I could be missing something, but you can't think someone's ethnicity can "fool" them.
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@cluelessjoe5745 Why exactly would China be interested in who the NYC mayor is?
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Can anyone explain why m4a/universal and "public option" are different? I thought they were the same thing.
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@JM-nt5ex But everyone being eligible for Medicare wouldn't imply the nationalization of the private sector. That's what's confusing. Most countries with universal healthcare have everyone eligible to use the universal system, but if you want you can still pay your private insurance. M4A seems to imply the first part, but come with the elimination of the second.
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@barnabashastings Thanks for clearing it up.
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@peterwilson4865 Seems like the discourse is confusing on purpose. I'd never guess that everyone having access to medicare means abolishing an entire sector and nationalizing it.
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@JM-nt5ex "systems with no private insurance are better at getting costs down" - Healthcare costs correlate to median income in a country, though. European countries with higher incomes have higher healthcare expenditure. Off the top of my head, European countries with higher income also tend to have private systems. I think. "Single payer systems that keep private insurance do not lower costs or raise quality" - The thing is, here you don't pay for private insurance for "quality". You do it because the wait times are lower. The private system has no need to compete on quality because they'd spend too much money for almost no gain in customers. "I also understand how most Americans freak out when they hear "nationalize", our educational system sucks at everything except propagandizing." - I'm not American. I am using the term nationalization for a reason, because it's what it is. I seriously doubt that American schoolteachers spend their day ranting against nationalization, but I've never been through the American system so I wouldn't know.
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@JM-nt5ex So what do the teachers unions have to say about that? "This would also be allowed in the proposed singlepayer systems in the US, I suppose I should have used the word "insurance" instead of "healthcare"" - Let me rephrase it. People pay for private insurance, so that they can go to private clinics/hospitals for free/reduced rates. "Healthcare is much more expensive in the US than any other country" - That wasn't the argument, but US median income is also higher. Healthcare expenditure in the US is actually very close to the line if you plot healthcare costs and median income. The US isn't an outlier. "The US is the only first world nation currently without universal coverage" - Again, the language seems to be designed to be confusing. I've literally never said anything that could be contradicted by that. I will rephrase it. I don't know of a single higher income European country than bans private healthcare. Maybe there is one, but I've not heard about it. So when you draw the conclusion that having private systems does not lower healthcare costs, you have to take into account that healthcare costs are higher in wealthier countries, and wealthier countries have those systems. So the conclusion that is drawn is not valid in any way shape or form. What you said has zero to do with how this correlation is inherently invalid.
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@JM-nt5ex Okay, so can we agree that it's misleading to pad nationalization of a private sector into the expansion of medicare to all? "nobody is against supplementary insurance" - This contradicts what I was told earlier. "healthcare costs are drastically higher in the US than any other first world nation" - If you plot the numbers, it follows the line. "I'm also aware the whole "waiting in line for urgent treatment" thing is a myth" - It isn't. I did wait for hours in excruciating pain just last August (so the pandemic wasn't flooding the system). I love when you Americans pretend to know more than me, a person who actually lives on the other side of the pond. The argument wasn't about the wait times, though. M4A is a misleading name because if it was accurate it would be just an expansion of medicare for all and nothing more.
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@highlightrelz897 "is entirely funded by the billionaire class" - lol I've heard that one before. "the opportunity cost of investing in private care is that those funds aren’t going to the public system" - Pretty sure they get taxed to pay for the public system as well.
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@highlightrelz897 "a speculation capital gains tax on the top 1%" - Yes. And my point is that the top 1% (by the way, the one percent includes sub-millionaire people) will just do whatever gets them taxed the least. In France CEOs withheld their own salaries for years to avoid paying income tax. If you press a balloon in the middle the air goes to the sides. "That isn’t to say you won’t see an increase in income taxes." - Thanks for the warning. "it’s available to everyone, like the military" - I don't remember the last time I had to call in an airstrike but I'm glad it's been made available.
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