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Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Is the USAF Retiring the F-22?" video.
@jaysonpida5379 "But then came the A-10's stellar performance in Desert Storm" - 7 A-10s and OA-10s were shot down, and Gen. Chuck Horner had to pull them back away from the Iraqi National Guard. "later Senator McCain basically had a major meltdown" - Of course he did. Like when he drove a woman to tears in a hearing regarding POW/MIA records. "if there was a request from the grunts & jarheads in their holes the F-16 could do it" - As of 2014 the F-16 was doing 33% of CAS while the A-10 was doing 11%.
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@LupusAries "The A-10 can stay on Station for hours, in a war like Afghanistan." - A turboprop has a ton of time on station. "due to the more limited payload of the F-16" - A-10s in Afghanistan were also payload limited by the sheer altitude of some airbases. You can see videos of A-10s taking off/in pre-flight at Bagram. It's almost 5,000 ft above sea level and the A-10 is severely lacking in thrust. They're not carrying everything plus the kitchen sink or else the pucker factor during rotation would be off the charts. "Citation needed" - Oh I got the full interview. Posting the link will probably see my comment filtered for spam so google "airforcemag article 0691horner". Title is "A Conversation With Chuck Horner" and dated June 1, 1991. "The Tornado GR. 1 lost 10 Aircraft, mainly due to it's mission profile" - Exactly. The Tornado had a much harder, near-suicidal mission that forced the West to reconsider low-level attacks as a way to evade defenses as a whole and the Tornado was forced to continue the war doing mid-level attacks. The Tornado suffering those losses doing an extremely difficult job was considered a paradigm shift. The A-10 proved itself incapable against a near-pear adversary and got a hero's welcome. That's propaganda for you. "aircraft with a riskier mission profile do get shot down more" - Okay, which proves that the A-10s mission profile is flawed and only works for COIN, where a turboprop aircraft would be better suited. "Except in Syria" - Exactly. >national interest The National Interest is a terrible outlet.
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At a 220 million per aircraft cost? The F-35 costs 80 million.
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@dagger6467 "you dont retire an aircraft line you just upgraded" - The retirement will only begin in 2030 according to their schedule. So basically 2035.
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All the critical F-14 parts were scrapped to make sure Iran can't get to them.
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@donjones4719 Congress is composed by out of touch and incompetent people, so it checks out.
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@TheShrike616 "Might I suggest some fact checking" - You'd benefit from your own advice.
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@TheShrike616 How is it funny? You made a claim. I don't have to provide anything.
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@lantinian The YF-23 would need to be replaced too at this point.
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@zackthebongripper7274 That rumor is a load of baloney that came from a general in the early 90s. And he had nothing to do with the decision and was just spitballing because the Key West agreements prevent such a thing.
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@LupusAries "or do you see the russians getting rid of their Frogfoots?" - The Ukrainians already lost 4 Frogfoots against the Russians, and the Russians only seem to have acknowledged using them in Debaltseve which was encircled by pro-Russian forces.
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