Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Boogie2988 Fired For Our Relationship" video.
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+wwg_Marcus I'm afraid the analogy is lost on you. The NPC meme has to do with the people who seem to be simply obeying the programming, which is why they're so predictable and act irrationally, they parrot whatever they're told by the media, etc. The "game coder" are the people and corporations who are funding the media and the gender studies
"The fact is you can claim they are obeying the "programing" but their "outrage" gets results - what do you think will be the result of Jeremy spending 10 minutes crying about them? Hint: nothing." - what the hell does that have to do with anything? In no way does that contradict the NPC meme.
"PCs get results, while NPCs react to PC's actions. and 9 times out of 10 they are getting their way" - what exactly is the point here? You're still not giving us a good critique of the NPC meme, for someone who seems to vehemently opposed to it.
"Pretending like not accomplishing something is "winning" and the people getting the reuslts they want are losing may make you feel better" - again how does that contradict the NPC meme?
"but aren't going to spur the kinda of actual changes to get your views respected to the point where they "influece" the game." - Jesus. The "game" isn't the meme. That's an externality. A few months ago there were articles about a study that blew out proportion findings about internal monologues. People thought that the study proved that there are people without internal monologues. So the NPC meme was born and it was applied to people who like normie shit and don't think for themselves. Then it got political and now NPCs are people who can't form their own opinions and seem programmed like a simplistic AI. Like "if accuser.Character = Gender.WOMAN -> then status.BELIEVE". Shit like that, if you're arguing against a black person who disagrees with liberals then say "internalized white supremacy", if woman disagrees then "internalized misogyny", etc.
"So as long as you're solely focuseed on responding to PCs instead of driving the game in a way you want, you're also a NPC" - what the fuck does that even mean? Being an NPC doesn't mean SHIT about that. A human thinks for himself, a NPC obeys programming. The NPC can make changes to the world while the human just watches. That's not a fucking definition. AI can win games. Jesus way to overthink a meme, not get it, and then try to make it fit your beliefs.
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+wwg_Marcus don't worry, the meme is being run into the fucking ground like 90% of the memes in existence, we don't need the fakedeep "both sides are exactly the same" philosophy. We've replaced philosophy with pictures of the Joker saying "we live in a society".
"The only real difference is they are changing things based on their actions while Jeremy is not" - how is "change" a defining factor?
"I mean you're literally blindly parroting a mean you saw on an online board (or heard here) how does that make you a free thinker?" - explaining a meme means parroting?
"The "goal" should eb about controlling the game and the outcome" - who said anything about goals?
"That's what PCs do and NPCs don't" - not really. The human player has agency to chose not even participate on the game, or make mistakes and lose. Also, player characters are not supposed to have control over the game unless you are in an actual sandbox game. The gamemaster is in control of the game and the player can prevail over the controlling element. But he has no control, at least in most games.
"If a gender study major wants to force a company to hire them as a diversity officer, they can do that" - and if an AI soldier wants to flush you out of your cover by tossing a grenade, it can do that.
"You can claim, baselessly, that they "don't think for themselves" - issa joke. Don't take it too seriously.
"but the harsh reality is your views aren't any more original than theirs just the same old blind parroting of others throughts" - that's ironic. I actually do question my own beliefs and my core principles have changed over the years, I have thought and debated and learned and arrived at conclusions. Your accusation is false, and falls within the scope of what you are criticizing.
"The main difference is their thoughts, words, and actions are taken with specific goals in mind" - and if you want to be anal about it... NPCs also have specific goals and will adopt behaviors necessary to accomplish them. Having end goals for your behaviour exists in the whole animal kingdom and in robotics.
"you have the lack of internal monolouge" - Jesus. So because I don't have the goal to change the world and force it to fit my beliefs that means lack of internal monologue? What the fuck?
"the people who have an agenda, goals, and a path to acheive those goals must clearly have because they are executivng their plan constantly" - what? Well the article blew the study out of proportion, but accomplishing goals has nothing to do with the existence or lack of internal monologue. You can acomplish goals but never question the goals or even have a conversation with yourself.
"How are you "shaking up the world" and isnt' that more of a sign of "breaking from the norm"" - "shaking up the world" exactly in the way that the media and large corporations want it? How is it "breaking the norm" to obey the directives set by the people who figured out that they can easily create needs and products to satisfy those needs?
Too much fakedeep pseudointellectualism, 1/10. I'd given it a 0 but you got me to reply.
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