Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Insurance Companies Launch Anti Medicare For All Propaganda Campaign" video.

  1. You'd hold the sign if you needed the money.
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  2.  @marianog13  okay, and how many Americans went bankrupt because of the costs above their deductible and loss of income due to not working due to their medical problems? Can we account for that in the American numbers too?
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  3.  @normanbreau295  http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/bsf-osb.nsf/vwapj/Redish-Sarra-Schabas-2006-ENG.pdf/%24FILE/Redish-Sarra-Schabas-2006-ENG.pdf 15% of bankrupcies of people over 55 in Canada are due to medical reasons
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  4.  @prettyevil6662000  I'm from Portugal and our healthcare is shit. We're currently facing the double-whammy of the possibility of a maternity shutdown in the capital and strikes by the nurses.
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  5. If they make you wait until you're dead that's essentially a denial.
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  6.  @merkridge8780  https://www.dn.pt/pais/interior/atraso-em-colonoscopias-colocam-em-causa-vidas-de-doentes---europacolon--9656754.html delays in colonoscopies that should be scheduled within 3 weeks are being pushed to an average of 5 months, which contributes to 4 thousand deaths every year from colon cancer. So if you're in my country and get blood on your stool... find a way to get diagnosed somewhere else because if you wait for the public system the cancer is going to progress. And this is just one area where the public healthcare system is ripping us off.
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  7.  Rebecca Brown  he went to the private system, not the public
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  8.  Rebecca Brown  still, he was treated under the private system and not covered by the Canadian government
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  9.  Rebecca Brown  it cost something, what the government paid. My point is that the Canadian government didn't pay for Rand Paul's expenses, he paid them out of pocket.
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  10.  Rebecca Brown  it is a private clinic. They just bill the government for patients from the public system.
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  11.  @jameshughes5722  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouldice_Hernia_Centre "Shouldice Hernia Centre is a private hospital in Thornhill, Ontario, Canada." "Shouldice was founded in 1945 by Dr. Earle Shouldice.[1][2] While private hospitals are not allowed under Ontario's Private Hospitals Act,[2] Shouldice is one of seven private hospitals in the province grandfathered under the Act.[2] The hospital has been continuously family run from its inception, but is partially publicly funded.[3]"
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  12.  @DrScott666  "Sounds like to me, Dr. Paul could have seen an American colleague, but instead chose Canada's EXCELLENT healthcare system." - he didn't go through the healthcare system, he went to a private hospital, was seen by an expert in the field who works in private practice, paid for his own bill and came back.
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  13.  @DrScott666  "It's publicly funded" - but it is still a private hospital. They receive most of their funding in exchange for accepting public system patients but the rest of the funding comes from the privatized system. I used to have military health insurance and I had the choice of going to military clinics or private clinics. They were private. I paid as much as if I had gone to the public system because the military paid to have that deal with the private clinics. But it was still a private clinic. Even though public funds were used to pay for that care, they were private entities receiving a payment for services.
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  14.  @desmondbrown5508  Medicare works by undercharging private providers - by law - and the difference has to be made up by overcharging the private consumers. If you implement medicare for all, you lose the source of revenue that pays for the big chunk of the costs of Medicare. "So what's you're point?" - *your, possessive. You're means "you are" "The point of public healthcare isn't to make public the hospitals. It's to make public the coverage." - at this point I am questioning either my sanity, or the state of English teaching in schools. "Yes, he paid for it himself" - then the conversation is done. He went to a private clinic, paid for the procedure himself. That's how he wants it to be. The real hypocrisy would be getting dual citizenship in Canada or the UK and go there for free treatment when he doesn't pay taxes there. "but the point is that it's cheaper at those hospitals than it is in America (as all healthcare is) because they have the support of the public infrastructure" - No. The clinic is private and they periodically renegotiate what they charge the government to see public system users. They are not public infrastructure and they don't get "support". They charge the government for a service. Just like the government pays PRIVATE companies to build roads or schools. "So that's still the results of the public single payer system at work" - Holy fuck. By that logic literally anything you can get from private business is the government's work. Why even have capitalism, in the end the government does everything. "hence why he got better deals in Canada than America." - HE DIDN'T GET A BETTER DEAL. HE NEEDED SURGERY FOR A HERNIA AND HE PICKED A CLINIC THAT HAS THE BEST PROCEDURE TO DEAL WITH HERNIAS. THEY DEVELOPED THEIR OWN PROCEDURE AND PROMISE BETTER RESULTS WITH FASTER RECOVERY AFTER THE SURGERY. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE DEAL, HE PICKED THE BEST RESULTS - THAT WERE DEVELOPED BY A CLINIC THAT HAS BEEN AROUND BEFORE THE CURRENT MODEL OF PUBLIC HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WAS EVEN INTRODUCED. It wasn't that Canada offered a better deal than the Americans. It's just that a Canadian private clinic developed a better procedure than anyone else.
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  15. If costs go down why would taxes go up?
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  16.  @TheBigGSN5  what are the other costs?
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  17.  @TheBigGSN5  but if those costs went down, then taxes shouldn't need to go up...
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  18. And that's exactly the problem. Insurance profit margins are between 5 to 8 percent. It's the hospitals that overcharge insurances and insurance simply passes the costs down to you.
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  19. It's not funny, you get double-dipped.
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