Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "VICE" channel.

  1. "hurr durr you need to be trained and licensed to be a responsible gun owner" looks down the barrel "you had good instructors" fuck off
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  2. +Jerry Loh that's called complacency. Imagine a student uses it, doesn't confirm it's cleared, and leaves it on the table as if it was cleared. Vice reported points it at his cameraman "don't do that!" "but it's not lo-" BANG It's really easy to lose your life to freak accidents. Don't make it easier. People have died because of guns that were "unloaded".
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  3. "it's political when you're wearing a swastika and it means the same whatever the language" boi it's literally the symbol everyone knows to have other meanings in Buddhism/Hinduism/whatever, wrong choice of words there
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  4. +Darth Sandrus for that there's actual airsoft games.
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  5. John Moses Browning himself was a Mormon.
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  6.  @Gizmonips  "It’s really cute mischaracterizing the argument for tighter gun laws" - you know what else is cute? The fact that you think we haven't heard that 500 times before. "I’ll also note that she had a pistol and not a high capacity rifle" - pistols are used to kill 11,000 people per year in the US. Rifles? Between 350-400. Her pistol is actually a greater threat to public safety than rifles but somehow you accept it. How can you talk about mischaracterization when capacity is a function of the magazine and not the rifle? You barely understand the subject but try to lecture us. That's why the nation is split. "even when liberals tell you we don’t want your guns" - 1) and I'm supposed to trust that? 2) plenty of people say they do want them so... "we just want tighter gun laws and restrictions" - that's that you people said last time. And the time before that. And before that. No matter what legislation is passed you people always come back demanding more. It took some time, but we finally wised up and figured that while you might not be taking away the guns, you're building the foundation for them to be taken away in 20, 30 or even 100 years.
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  7.  @spiritualknight704  No, it's not the first time.
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  8. +Xedd MrC dude they asked for the Crusades, they attempted to invade Europe several times, they attacked coastal areas of the Mediterranean and enslaved Europeans.
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  9. Bazgatow87 same could be said about all war movies or videogames. Bored people trying to experience something.
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  10. +Stephen McMahon one thing to keep in mind is that most Southern Whites could not possibly afford slaves and worked for a living. They wouldn't go to war just because of a few rich White people demanding the right to own slaves. The North made a point of destroying their land to damage the Confederacy's economy. So of course they hate what the North did.
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  11. +ranerk inasa And they claimed responsibility for it in an official statement? Because if one guy at Lufthansa crashed a plane and killed a bunch of people doesn't make Lufthansa a terrorist organization unless they actively supported the actions.
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  12. +Fierce Outlier statistically speaking, citizens owning very few guns has fuck-all to do with the amount of criminal shootings that happen in Mexico, Brazil, etc.
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  13. Damion jackson People who customize their cars, people who learn how to cover songs in their guitar, etc aren't benefiting society in any way either. People don't have a moral obligation to choose ways to spend their time that benefit society, and the vast majority of times they won't. You must be severely mistaken about American history. They had just fought a government. Why would they want the militia to answer to the government when they were the rebels and King George III was the government? And what do corporations do? They control the government. Corporations cannot do anything, it's the the government that writes and enforces the legislation they want. What do you want, an armed assault into Monsanto's offices? Surely even you can notice the problem of directing violence against other private citizens rather than the actual tyrants.
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  14. I'm unemployed? Because I posted one comment? You're too salty for someone who fucked up and couldn't dare to own up to the mistake, it's you who's taking it far too seriously.
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  15. @UCpcLvyqTnbAglqOrJ7PeLRg "So more mischaracterizing" - where? "there are more of them" - hardly, the statistics aren't exactly recent but only around a third of firearms in the US are handguns. Have you considered that maybe the reason they're used in crime more often is because they're concealable? And that's why in most countries handguns are more regulated than rifles? Because it's more convenient to commit murder with them? Maybe? "You absolutely know the context of that amendment" - do you? "You are not keeping this government at bay, if they want you, they have you" - if the government wanted the Taliban, they had them. If the government wanted the VC, they had them. Oops. I guess the government took the L on those instances. "You don’t need a high capacity rapidly firing weapon for protection" - why? "You either need to be a better shot" - How does being a better shot factor into all of this? "So I suppose in that regard, I do want your guns." - one reply and I already got you to contradict your claim that you didn't want anyone's guns. Please excuse me, but how the ACTUAL FUCK do you expect anyone to trust a single word out of your mouth when you go "uh we say we don't want your guns" and then admit that actually you do right on your first opportunity to reply?
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  16.  @shoshanaasimov7243  okay, but like I mentioned above handguns are several times worse for society than any kind of rifle. Also, by letter of the law assault rifles were restricted in 1934 - before they were even invented - and banned in 1986. You cannot buy an assault rifle, only transfer existing ones in a process that requires tens of thousands of dollars and a 9 month delay while the BAFTE processes your transfer application.
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  17. Once I take a breath of that H I won't come down for days.
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  18. Not studying history and not being caught up with the events in the third world doesn't mean you're insane.
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  19. Quin Skew >"Author Kevin Kruse asserts that the underlying movement behind inserting "under God" into the pledge was an effort by corporate America, despite being initiated by a private religious fraternity and references to God existing in previous versions of the pledge, to instill in the minds of the people that capitalism and free enterprise were heavenly blessed. Kruse acknowledges the insertion of the phrase was influenced by the push-back against atheistic communism during the Cold War, but argues the longer arc of history shows the conflation of Christianity and capitalism as a challenge to the New Deal played the larger role." One person has claimed it, whether you believe it is up to you. Personally, I don't, but it sure as hell would have helped to indoctrinate people with religion to stop a political movement that would prefer less of it.
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  20. +TextbookGerm exactly, I came to know Vice from friends who loved Hunter S. Thompson. It's been a few years and Vice really went downhill since then, but their journalism style was always like that. +Nathaniel Bixby in many cases those places which had civil wars/revolutions didn't even have widespread gun ownership. Meanwhile, in a lot of "stable" Western countries gun ownership rates typically go as high as 30 to 40 guns per 100 citizens.
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  21. ***** you claimed they were firing pellets, told it was blanks, then deflected by saying they're essentially the same. How is it OCD to confront you on your backpedaling after your mistake was called out?
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  22. ***** They still had to pay for labour of the reporter and cameraman. Employing people's time is expensive. So yes, Vice paid for this shit. The upside is that 300k views probably gave them 4x-10x what they invested depending on their ad revenue.
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  23. CB12abAB The UK has like 4 million firearms in civilian hands. Stop lying.
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  24. isolator86 >"but its useless, they will die anyway if the government wants to attack them" You're a Jew in 1940's Nazi Germany. Would you want to barricade your house with a machine gun and some sticks of dynamite or be put on a train? End result is probably the same, but when I was born I was kicking, screaming and covered in blood. I'd rather go the same way than live on my knees. Plus I'd get to take a few of them with me. My country was a fascist dictatorship before I was born. All my family lived through it. I am never going to go through what they have been (and it was pretty mellow for them) and I would gladly fight for freedom. Plus, you're forgetting that the US was "defeated" in Vietnam. Their military might won a ton of battles but that means nothing when a bunch of malnourished rice farmers can win the war. It took over ten years of invasion to get the Middle East under control and now it's a mess again! >"The war on drugs and the border with mexico is a problem of the U.S Police." No. It's a social, political and economical problem. You can't say it's a problem with the police when the government makes drugs illegal, when the people buy the damned drugs, when the gangs profit from the illegality of drugs, etc. To say it's the problem of the police is wishful thinking. The police doesn't pass laws. The police "only" unnecessarily puts people in the judicial system.
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  25. +E. Lectricity well Switzerland is also successful because they have a huge chunk of all the laundered/tax evaded money in the world. If you want to be like them, emulate their banking practices first. It's not just chocolate and watches.
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  26. ***** I need guns to protect myself from people without guns too. I am not impervious to fists, knives, tire irons, baseball bats, etc.
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  27. ranerk inasa Good thing I didn't implicate Bin Laden either. And by the way, before he died his page on the FBI Most Wanted didn't actually claim he was to be captured due to his involvement in the 2001 attacks, even after the post-death revision, He was wanted for connections with US embassy attacks. He was part of the militia. Okay, so if a guy who works at Staples bombs a government building, that makes Staples a terrorist organization? It was politically charged, alright. Why does that justify "guilt by association"? And making the militia responsible for something they didn't do is going to bring back the dead? Come on!
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  28. It's for the sake of appearances. It's actually a "Muay Thai camp" - set up for the foreign visitors. I seriously doubt the program gets enough funding to make it look "non-prison" all year round.
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  29. Emil Thomsen Finland is one of the most armed countries in the world when it comes to civilian guns!
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  30. +se7en the bag of dildos wasn't "classic", it's just a fucking dumb joke that is old as balls on the internet and some people decided to make activism out of it. The photoshopping dildos into guns or "open carrying dildos" is the dumbest fucking thing because it clearly shows it's not the gun owners who are compensating for something, it's the people who can't create a political statement more coherent than "dildos!". We fucking started this thing among the new generation of gun owners. Double ended dildos mounted on scope rings, dildo bayonets, etc are all jokes within the gun culture of people who grew up with the internet and 4chan. You people stole our joke and spread it to the gun owners that don't get it. That's not classic, the same way that Carlos Mencia isn't a classic comedian.
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  31. +Struggle Gaming So when two asshole kids with "Natural Selection" on a shirt shot up their highschool, that was the militia's fault? They had no political gain, so their use of violence wasn't used to further a political agenda. When some disgruntled guy decides to shoot up his workplace that's the militia as well? What political gain did he get from that act of intimidation?
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  32. Bob cares And the "obvious" is sometimes too superficial to make an accurate judgement. It's obvious to any observer that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and yet it's the opposite.
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  33. The problem is that the M1 Abrams is equipped with tank-killing rounds for the most part, which are ineffective against people. And since the Abrams has a blazing hot exhaust, it's actually more vulnerable to infantry than diesel tanks. You do realize that not everyone makes a lifelong career out of military service, right? So you know few people who would drop of out the military to join a militia, good for you! Most of those people completed their service, they did not trade the military for the militia, they joined after they completed their duties.
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  34. +Nicholas Sayers here's a lesson on how to lie with statistics. Over a period of time Mexican Federales apprehended something like 27-29 thousand firearms, most of them impossible to trace, only a sample of 11,000 were sent to the ATF. Out of those only about 6,000 could be traced and 90% of those did come from the US. Meanwhile, the cartels are driving around with Belgian-made automatics property of the Mexican government (unaccounted for) that could not have come from the US, anti-air missiles and hand grenades, all of which were smuggled through international illegal arms trade or stolen from Mexican armories. Don't you think that the Mexican government has a vested interest in blaming the US to cover their ass on the fact that their police and military forces are so goddamn corrupt that they'll look the other way while their armories are ransacked by cartels? Damn right I can't compare them to Scandinavia. But they're very comparable to the US. Look at Flint, Michigan, can't even get clean water. Look at Chicago, it's the São Paulo of the US. Shit, Canada and Scandinavia don't border a narco state, the US does. Don't you think that might have some influence on the matter?
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  35. +Nicholas Sayers "People like me understand that there is of course an undeniable correlation between firearm availability and firearm violence" Except that there's no correlation at all! http://www.objectobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/table4.jpg
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  36. Regulated back then was still a close derivative of the word "regular". Either way, it's the right of the people to keep and bears arms, anyone should have the right to bear arms even if they're not the militia. Why would people who rebelled against the government want that the militias had to have permission from the government? That would defeat the point of the militia since they'd have to be loyal to tyrants. Who gives a shit about Chomsky? He's right in some things but he's completely insufferable on others.
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  37. +justletmeuseit not really, just blend into the crowd. Whatever technology can do, it can't tell you who's an insurgent when they're in plain civilian mode.
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  38. justletmeuseit "Blending in" isn't espionage. "Blending in" is living a normal life, at least as normal as one could live under occupation, striking only when convenient and then changing back into an everyday civilian before anyone can fight back. It's guerrilla, asymmetric warfare, etc but it's not espionage. You're not infiltrating the community, you are the community. >"these guys are just up in the hills" For training purposes. Normally it's illegal to discharge firearms in residential areas unless you have a shooting range.
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  39. +jakob weinzoedl a ton of vets look like shit (you make young men do exercise all the time and eat 4000 calories a day while on the field and then kick them back out, they'll keep eating but won't necessarily keep exercising). Vets don't obligatorily look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Being a vet in the US is just like people in Europe who were conscripts for a year or two. Doesn't make you superman, you will get older and fatter. Hell, ever heard of Mike Vinning? The dude looks like a nerd but he's oldschool special forces.
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  40.  @0IIIIII  Why would they vote democrat?
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  41.  @0IIIIII  You're just dissing the republican party and pretending everyone should go to college (that's not how it works, bub). You didn't actually state a single reason to vote democrat.
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  42.  @0IIIIII  Get stuff done? Other countries? Half of them are constantly teetering between economic collapse and recovery. You think it's gonna be Germany but it's gonna be Greece. Corporate welfare is the Dem's game too. Isn't Biden's cabinet full of corporate stooges? Internet is almost twice as fast since de-regulation. Student debt is caused by government policies that promoted more college attendees, which allowed colleges to make bank of a increased demand while they limit the supply. Now you have college graduates bartending and stocking shelves. Excuse me? The dems politicized the Shanghai Shivers by making sure political power is seized through varus related mandates. Greatest tragedy in decades? Turn off the TV. Didn't CDC data essentially prove that only 6 percent of those fatalities were actually varus related while rest were all comorbidities? Again, I don't give a damn about what you think about the Republican party. You were asked why vote for Democrats. All you can say is call people dumb for not going to college. You hate the working class, you hate blue collar workers, then wonder why they won't vote for your party.
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  43.  @0IIIIII  How is that an argument? Popularity isn't truth. Proven to work? Then why did you miss all the countries where it didn't work? Why do you throw out all the test tubes that don't confirm your experiment? That's not how science works. It's frustrating to talk to someone who hates you, hates your way of living and wants to see cops gun you down.
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  44. More jets isn't useless. Jets can deliver 2000lbs bombs directly into the roof of a factory or power plant. Small drones can chip away at a country's armed forces by slowly targeting the equipment and personnel. Jets can send a country back to the stone age and make the fighting pointless.
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  45. Ukraine's defense of their homeland is definitely justifiable. Russia must go back to their homeland.
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  46. There might have been an editing mistake but they asked her to prove the weapon as clear, and she had not "proven" it clear UNTIL she looked down the bore and said "clear". So according to logic, she looked down the bore of a weapon which was not cleared as safe per the standards set. Of course that what she did was safe because the gun was indeed cleared before, but they did taught her to clear a weapon by looking down the bore. All it takes is distraction to override common sense and she might look down the bore of a loaded weapon.
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  47. Snipers do more surveillance and recon than killing. You assume things are like in videogames so you don't understand. Very nice to have all those facts handy, almost as if you spend your time spreading propaganda.
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  48. +Torgo >"countless studies" >doesn't mention a single one lel
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  49. george harrison "works over here" - highly doubt it. Unless you live in an extremely small country, chances are there's over a million firearms in civilian hands in your country.
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  50. george harrison You mean a country that isn't fighting a War on Drugs and doesn't have a border with Mexico isn't as violent? Colour me surprised! It doesn't work, by the way. Gun murders were dropping in Australia before Port Arthur, and after gun control was passed, they kept dropping... at almost the exact same rate! Absolutely nothing was accomplished. Some sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia#Research http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html But in that link above look at these images: http://www.gunsandcrime.org/homihisty.gif http://www.gunsandcrime.org/murder.gif It's almost like gun control changed nothing at all!
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  51. +Sean Garner and did they do something bad after pledging? Thanks for proving the point.
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  52. +Kevin Haynes that is an absolutely incorrect assessment of fair journalism. Fair journalism would be reporting war crimes from both sides, for example, and not praising one side. That's called bias, which is the thing you're defending. Journalism also has fuck all to do with justice. Justice is for the justice system. Trial by media is one of the most abhorrent practices of modern journalism. Journalism isn't supposed to reflect values or make judgement between right or wrong.
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  53. +Colonel Kill by the way, they're doing Gonzo style journalism which isn't supposed to be unbiased. That's actually the justification in this case.
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  54. +Loopsrainforest normal journalism isn't supposed to offer you a perspective. Gonzo journalism is based on the journalists' perspectives but that's the exception, Vice pieces are really more aligned with the documentary style than actual investigative journalism. If you need perspective, don't ask a journalist, or at least in a perfect world you wouldn't.
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  55. Big John I think they should just do drugs. It affects just you and not other people. >daytime television addictions With facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube, etc I struggle to find teenagers addicted to TV. Sure, let's watch this pre-set playlist of programs that only are on in strict time intervals and are constantly interrupted by commercials when there's freaking internet.
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  56. RoGoH308  Marhea Elstow Actually, if the UK was a US state it would be the poorest if not for Mississippi.
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  57. Krassz To the point of actually being in London for some time. Have you? Doesn't matter, I'm digressing. But really, what research is there to do? You guys have a GDP per capita of under 40k and yet your cost of living is ridiculous when we compare London to cities like Jackson, MS. For example, rent is almost 300% higher, groceries are 56% higher. Price per square meter in city centre? 1251% higher in London. The only redeeming factor is the average monthly income after taxes in London, which is 42% higher. But remember, you're paying out the ass for everything in London, even basic goods such as food and clothing. What about when compared to Birmingham, AL? Local purchasing power in London is 50.86% lower. Rent is 153% higher in London. Monthly pass? 500% higher in London. The kicker? Monthly disposable income is 7.25% lower in London. We're talking about Birmingham, Alabama. A freaking southern state.
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  58. Peter Donnelly  >London life is cheap as is the rest of the UK. What? Typically capitals/metropolitan cities are the most expensive places to live. I'm not comparing some "Farnworthshire" to "Bumfuck, Tennessee" because that's a useless exercise. I'm comparing state capitals/big cities to each other. >These places you mention are shit holes. I know. I compared London to big cities in poor states (i.e. shitholes) and London is worse off. >Food and clothing are not expensive at all I've been to London. It's fucking expensive. Look, this is how it compares to my city, Lisbon. http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Portugal&country2=United+Kingdom&city1=Lisbon&city2=London The only thing you guys have is the fact that a bigger percentage of the population makes a nice paycheck. But the American cities (again, shitholes) have salaries more comparable to London.
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  59. Peter Donnelly I guess numbers work differently in the UK, then. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-57591/London-sixth-expensive-city-world.html http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jul/10/london-12th-most-expensive-city-expats http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-comes-top-in-study-of-the-worlds-most-expensive-cities-to-live-in-9042233.html Again, I've been there. It's expensive.
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  60. Peter Donnelly HA! Compared to (say) Lisbon, everything is the same number expect it has a £ versus a €. A £5 mcdonald's menu is more expensive than 5€. Jebus, just read the links. Pretty much all restaurants, individual food items, average groceries shopping, etc is listed as more expensive in London than any other shithole I mentioned. Are you in denial or just pretending to be daft?
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  61. Peter Donnelly Jesus fuck. I provided sources. You didn't. I have been there, it's more expensive. Fast food chains in London are more expensive than in Lisbon. Middle-ground restaurants in London are almost as expensive as high-end restaurants in Lisbon. All you're doing is saying "you're wrong" without ever providing any sort of evidence. Are you claiming that everyone and every number that testifies in favour of London being an expensive city is just a conspiracy?
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  62. Peter Donnelly Dude, we're past that. I mentioned it like 4 comments ago and now you picked it up? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World Portugal is in the first world. Not lower 2nd. But fine. Portugal is 2nd world. That means that the UK is 3rd world. Have you not been paying attention? You guys are poor as hell and yet everything is more expensive than in other European cities.
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  63. Peter Donnelly >"Portugal is a vastly poor country, yet you seem to have no concept of this." I have. "Vastly poor" means that we have VW Golfs instead of two SUVs like American families, most people have 30Mb/s optic fiber instead of the more expensive 100Mb/s, etc. We're not sub-Saharan Africa, even though we joke about it. It's a first world nation and you called it "lower 2nd world". You know what "second world" is? Emerging economies like Brasil. >"Portugal is poor as hell, it is a failure." It's not a "failure". This trend only started 30 years ago. I hate the Fascists, but we were extremely wealthy. The problem started when we replaced the Fascists with Communists and Socialists, and all of our wealth vanished. England only became a shithole "recently" too. We're a lesser industrialized nation where most people, despite earning less than the English, are able to live "comfortably". England is a more industrialized nation (even though your industry is going down the drain) but where the poor are extremely poor and the violent crime rates are horrible compared to the rest of Europe. Your university tuition fees are getting too expensive. Plus, if Scotland leaves the UK, you guys will take a big economic hit. >"Quit being so nationalistic, you can't see the trees through the branches." I'm not a nationalist. I love my homeland but I hate my country and what it has become. I take no pride in the accomplishments of people I never met and I don't hate people for being born in a different country - if you don't recall, I called my own country a shithole at least once in this discussion. But this whole thing started with me comparing London to Lisbon - it started with me comparing London with American cities and telling you that you can live more comfortably in those cities despite being regarded as shitholes in America. How am I nationalist if I'm telling you a country I'm not from is better than the UK? I was just using facts. I gave you the numbers. I linked you to sources. Yet you don't believe that the UK would be the second poorest state in the US.
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  64. >"The government is made up of people like your neighbors." I don't know where you live but my neighbours don't get to ride around in brand new Mercedes paid for with money they extorted from the taxpayer.
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  65. isolator86 I live in an European country. We don't have a War on Drugs. We don't share a border with Mexico. Just right there there's a huge discrepancy between the data.
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  66. E. Lectricity Okay, let me rephrase it. Switzerland is successful because they have money coming in from abroad, it just so happens to be there that people send their offshore money. If you want your country to be successful, accept more offshore money.
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  67. "draft dodgers" you think the draft is still in place?
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  68. herp derp Your conclusion is fundamentally wrong because in every altercation there are advantages such as speed, size, training in combat sports, weapons such as knives, etc. Guns do equalize the situation by making it about who's the quickest so there is only one factor and you can't possibly afford to lose on that one. I'm going to give you a knife for you to hide, and then give you 10 people who walk by an alley at separate times in a disarmed country. You could do anything you want to them, because chances are carrying a knife will also be illegal. Now I give you a gun, and another 10 people, but you're living in an area of the US where guns are extremely common and people have been shooting since they were kids. "Are you feeling lucky, punk?"
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  69. herp derp >"every single other western country" You mean countries that are smaller than the US, don't have the US's history or culture, totally different societies, are highly homogenized and most of all, don't have all the problems that come with huge populations, higher populational density and greater number of metropolitan cities, aren't fighting a War on Drugs while physically attached to Mexico? Most Western countries never had high murder rates in the modern era, they have gun control but it wasn't passed to necessarily solve a violence problem. >"cause they're not fucking legal" Well, uh, guns are fucking legal in almost every country. Except places like China, most countries allow firearms ownership. In fact, gun ownership has been on the rise for over a decade in Australia, that paragon of draconian gun control. It is now higher than pre-1996 numbers.
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  70. Ronin Oxide PATRIOT Act, NDAA, PRISM, etc? You don't put the frog in boiling water, you put it in cold water and over the stove. People can tell when they're being oppressed, but they don't notice when the government slowly becomes tyrannical. >"I don't get why you Americans wouldn't want serial numbers and background checks on gun owners" Both of those things are required by federal law when you buy a gun. If you make one yourself it was never in a factory or in a gun store so obviously the laws can't possibly apply. And come on, you think a serial number does anything? You can file it off. Plus, even if you don't, and you kill some people? Can't tell the serial number from bullet wounds, so the serial numbers don't help at all!
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  71. The Huey P Newton gun club also stood, armed, in front of government buildings. What seems to be the problem?
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  72. +Mya Elbows Did a lot of shit against the Soviets in Afghanistan... and then against America. Palestinians got killed because some people launched rockets off their back yards and used civilians as their human shields. Those people are in power and Palestinians support them, not Israel which is the aggressor.
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  73. Mya Elbows The point is that you can't assume people from a state will not see federal overreach as something "foreign". If the federal government kills civilians of a state to submit a militia - and they will, because against insurgent forces the US military causes collateral damage up the wazoo, people won't be happy. So yes, you will have a situation in which the locals are "Afghan" and the invaders are "Soviets".
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  74. Mya Elbows I'm only talking about the military feasibility of a rebellion, not the "philosophical aspects". I don't know who gets killed for what evidence.
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  75. Mya Elbows Neglect and sabotage (seriously, it's almost like they realized what they were doing and made it worse on purpose because nobody could be that incompetent) from their government aren't reasons for rebellion? There have been revolutions for less than that.
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  76. Mya Elbows They contaminated it through neglect and became aware of it, after that point it became almost an act of sabotage. It's clear that the government did not care for the health of it's people and tacitly allowed it to continue by telling them it was fine. Sorry, that is more than enough to revolt. And by the way, there's no reason to be paranoid? We know that guys in their 20's working for the NSA share the nudes they find on the computers and phones they snoop into, as described by Snowden I believe. I've heard the "if you got nothing to hide" and "are you afraid they'll find your porn history?" excuses ever since I remembered, and turns out they not only spy on their own people but they actually do the ridiculous things only "paranoid" people should be afraid of? Have you been living under a rock for the past decade? NDAA, PATRIOT Act, civil asset forfeiture? Every week there are news coming out about all the ways the government is out to fuck you, far too many to accept it as just the "infallible" nature of government. There's a saying that goes: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence and the third time it's enemy action. I've seen evidence of hundreds of these situations and I can name at least 20 from the top of my head. That's way above three.
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  77. Mya Elbows >"So your answer to negligence is not to enact better screening but to revolt with firearms?" "Better screening" the catch-all solution for severe issues. You know damned well that's not going to do anything. "Negligence" is a euphemism, the government was buying clean water for themselves. They claimed the water was safe to drink! That's not just "negligence".. >"I find it hard to believe you think an armed revolt against the government would solve anything" If it wasn't for one, I would be living in a fascist dictatorship. I have a lot to thank to armed revolts. >"All that would happen, as I stated earlier, is those people would die, and the government would go about their business." Not really, if those people died then for every one of them another 49 innocent civilians would die. That's the problem of fighting an insurrection, people don't like when they're the eggs that have to be cracked to make the omelette. >"this specific example is what i'm talking about" So you limit the scope of the argument to suppress the evidence that the government is working against you, and make it just about the Flint water crisis so you can cry strawman. Yours is a grand doctrine. I show you there's more than enough cumulative evidence to prove that the government is spiraling into tyranny, and you simply shrug it off as "off topic". Wow. >"with legislation" You mean the same legislation that allowed severe breaches of the constitution to happen? The same legislation that despite of the right to not self-incriminate, will put people in jail indefinitely if they do not de-encrypt their storage for the authorities?
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  78. Mya Elbows What do you even mean by screening? >"Also you said the government was buying and drinking clean water during that crisis, you'd have to get a link because I'm not finding that source material." Documents obtained through FOIA show that they were buying water for government buildings. https://www.scribd.com/doc/297005752/DTMB-Facility-Notification >"And even if they were, as you said, we aren't living in a fascist dictatorship." What? I was talking about me, an European citizen, whose family lived under a fascist dictatorship before armed revolt brought down the regime. How you took my personal experience and made it about America I don't know. >"now you're saying we should grab our firearms and start marching with the MM" I never said that, but okay. >"white males" Ohhhh boy. Michigan is like 80% white according to their census. Get the racial narrative outta here.
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  79. Mya Elbows >"I was talking about the District of Columbia contamination when i asked for source material." Literally what? >"Screening is regarding background checks, and like I said if that doesn't work then stiffen the punishment for negligence. Tell me, in western Europe, what happens when an elected official is negligent?" The past isn't a predictor of the future, typically people need to achieve power before becoming corrupt. Screening people before they enter office is ridiculous. We make them prime ministers or something. Why the hell do you think governmental corruption bothers me as much? It certainly isn't because I live in a place where we deal with it swiftly. >"How was I supposed to know you were European?" The point is that you mistook me for an American. I mean, country with a former fascist dictatorship? Most of them are either in Europe or South America. US => not in South America. >"If you're not for an armed revolt" I never said that either. >"They're white, middle class Americans, aka they have it pretty great." So you're ignorant of the levels of poverty white people have in your own country. Being born white is not necessarily an indicator of comfort. >"We're privileged, revolting now would be taking that for granted." ?????? .... ?????
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  80. +Zedek Oh, look, it's another "leftist vs conservative" false dichotomy. As a non-conservative, your political views are just as bullshit. For example, I'm all for abortion but people on your side repeatedly call fetuses a parasite despite of the scientific fact that parasites must be of a different species than the host. I'm all for the environment, but your side pushed these bullshit energy saving light bulbs that almost everyone loathes and now the MIT has developed a way to make the incandescent bulbs more efficient - government action stiffed scientific progress. You can't point at me for having anti-gay opinions or anti-evolution opinions thus your argument falls flat. The "lefist bias" that reality supposedly has doesn't actually exist because if anything the more leftist we become the more contradictions begin to pop up - for instance, never seen anyone ask for a gay wedding cake at a Muslim-owned bakery because it would offend them to show their intolerance. Oh that's right, I've actually seen it being done, on a right-wing youtube channel. Conservatives will play the gay card if it embarrasses Muslims and leftists will ignore gay rights to defend Muslim communities. You're all hypocritical trash.
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  81. Zedek Good thing I didn't imply you said something about all conservatives. My point was that your "reality has a liberal bias" point is complete bullshit. And my point was that many of the opposing viewpoints are ideological as well. Wait, what? You're the one who uses deflection as the main argument, you're the one whose defense is attacking the other side. I am comparable to a child, then what does that make you? You know, when someone claims "I've never seen" as opposed to "it never happened and that's a fact" it usually means that person is open to it happening, except it never reached enough notoriety to become mainstream. It's not fucking confirmation bias when I say that I've never seen it being done, it's just that the regressive left has nothing to gain from pointing out that ultra-religious people with no tolerance exist, unless they're Christians. It's also not a strawman. So I'm spewing irrelevant BS, but bringing up anti-gay beliefs in a thread where it wasn't the topic is somehow more relevant? The problem is that you doubled-down on the "joke" and made it real. I had no real reason to reply but your last reply was visible on the comments section.
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  82. Zedek >"and that this somehow causes my argument to fall flat" Your retort to criticism is pointing out bad things about conservatives. A tu quoque argument doesn't work when someone else attacks your beliefs. You maintain that the comment wasn't meant to be taken literally, while behaving like the comment suited you to a T. Your defense of liberal beliefs was attacking conservative beliefs. Again, the shoe fits, it might have been a joke but you doubled down on it. I wasn't replying to the joke.
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  83. Broreale Guns can't be tracked unless you put a GPS tracker on it. Mexican Federales gave the ATF thousands of confiscated guns and the ATF couldn't track most of them. It's no more traceable than a pizza. You can tell from the toppings which kind it is, but that's it.
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  84. wobinidan False. The gun control recently passed in Switzerland was pushed on by the European Union. In a recent referendum the Swiss people opposed gun control. Also, they keep assault rifles, not just pistols. The ones with gull auto. They are allowed to keep them after service in semi-auto. Killers don't care about having to account for the bullets, they're going to commit a crime already! There is actually a "free weapons" class in Switzerland which isn't tightly regulated by the government.
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  85. Keksgestalt >"weapons in switzerland are useless, the reloading mechanism has to be given for security reason to an official place.... " Please name the law on the books that says that, everything from internet info to testimony from actual Swiss people there is no such law.
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  86. Keksgestalt >"guns are made for hunting, for hunters, official state hunters, the army and the police and security" What the fuck? Sounds like Nazi Germany. Give all the guns to state authorities or party associates, allow hunters to have some, then oppress all the unarmed. >"will finally cut bad peoples penis prolongation away and will save lifes." Fuck off. France is one of the European countries with the highest civilian gun ownership, right after Germany if I'm not mistaken. I guess by your logic the French have small penises? Criminals don't care. Look at Australia. Biker gangs were manufacturing Owen submachine guns. They made a jeweler make MAC-10 copies. They made Luty submachine guns. It's so easy to make them, they can't go away. >"freedom costs lifes or decreased-freedom." Those who give up liberty in exchange for security get neither.
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  87. Keksgestalt I'm not from the US either. >"but you can see that the trigger where normally you reload is not there.... never!" What? That's only for CARRYING. They can own the weapon fully assembled. >"in germany the laws are even harder, you never see people with guns NEVER EVER except police, security, huntsmen or army" Nobody is talking about carrying, we're talking about OWNING guns. >"but we citisens have nothing to do with this" I'm not talking about military industry. Germany is the country in Europe where the numbers of guns in civilian hands is the highest. France is second and Italy is third. If I'm not mistaken, Finland and Switzerland have the highest rates. >"just look at the numbers they are a fact. and on facts you can't discuss, as they are fact, like the space sky is blue or grass is green." The fact is that if you plot a graph with gun ownership and gun homicide worldwide, the R^2 says you're wrong. http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/firearmhomicide2.jpg The facts say gun ownership doesn't correlate with higher gun murder.
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  88. Keksgestalt >"military weaponry is forbidden to citizens in europe" In Germany you can own an AR15. You can hunt with one too, as long as you don't put more than two rounds in the magazine. You can also own an AR15 in Italy. In France you can own a Saiga and convert it back to AK form. A Glock is a weapon used by the military. It's legal in many European countries. The CZ-75 is a military weapon. In my country it's the basis for many competitive shooting weapons. In my country I could get a SPAS-12, which is rare in the US because they ended up getting the import banned. I could also get the Benelli M4 Super 90 in the M1014 form the US military has, which can't be imported into the US because of the "military" stock. >"what matters are the nations under the black line, and i am pretty sure that a lot of european nations are under this line" A lot of European nations prove you are wrong. Most countries with high gun control have high firearms deaths. The countries that bring the line into a negative R^2 are the European countries with high rates of firearm ownership but low gun murder. That's why the line matters - it's going DOWN (less murders the more guns you have) and not UP Can you even read a graph? Have you never studied statistics? >"but with a first world nation" You don't make the rules - plus, you can't compare the US to European countries when the US is way more comparable to Brazil or Mexico than Denmark, Italy or France. But just for you, first world nations: http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/03/guns-neither-increase-nor-decrease-crime-rate.html >"i bet that germany is close to this" You'd lose that bet. With 25,000,000 firearms in civilian hands, Germany is one of the most well-armed nations with 30.3 firearms per 100 people. It's the 4th country with the most guns (in number), and the 15th highest rate of gun ownership (guns/people) in the world.
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  89. ***** If you're against gun control, I'm helping you, bud. If you're for gun control, you're defeating your argument because you'd accept that Europe is just a small part of the world and everywhere else gun laws are just as strict yet gun murders are through the roof.
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  90. silent ghosts airsoft team which begs the question, if being shot at for real may cause PTSD, why is someone who covered wars doing this story in the first place. I've heard of reenactments and airsoft helping with PTSD, but there's no hard evidence resulting of clinical trials and I doubt he consulted a therapist before going.
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  91. Lonewolf6565 >"Superior technology means little when you can swarm it with thousands of lesser" Not applicable. China also has a large army so they are incapable of breaking down into guerrilla tactics. They're also fairly high tech and dependent on those technologies which are surpassed by the US's. It's sort of a game of extremes. If you want to defeat the US you have to give up electronic communications and go back to more outdated methods, keep radar anti-air weapons turn off or stealth bombers will fire radar-seeking missiles, etc. A swarm would be scary and prove costly to the US armed forces, but swarm tactics are very inefficient in this day and age. The only thing that could subvert US military capabilities is guerrilla tactics.
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  92. ***** Actually, he's right. The US can easily defeat a nation state. You can only fight the US when you aren't an organized military with bases and supply lines but a determined guerrilla that can be anywhere, fight anywhere, hide anywhere. A loss is a loss, but China would need to be successfully invaded by the US, what's left of their military to regroup and go underground, etc to fight in the same conditions as the Vietcong or the Taliban.
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  93. connor vinas 1) The consent of the governed is implied. You are born into the social contract, which you can't opt out from, and revoking your citizenship would bring many hardships for the average person. It's like being victim of a shotgun wedding to an abuser, please use your political theory to explain how that is justified. 2) I was talking about wars, I am sure most people in foreign countries didn't consent to the US's monopoly on force.
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  94. Andrew Gooding So does that mean that the US is a terrorist state or not? According to your definition it is. I just want to hread you call the US "terrorist" or backpedal. I am satisfied with either answer.
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  95. Gavlick Apthesycerski >"no its their actions are what makes them terrorists" No, it was making people scared. Because according to your definition, the militia didn't have to do shit as long as people were afraid, that was very beneficial to you. >"I mean who is actually afraid of gay, they may hate them but they aren't scared of them" Always heard hate was a manifestation of fear, turns out it isn't when it's politically suitable. >"And only stupid bigots are afraid of Mexicans" I thought you'd agree that half of Americans are bigots, apparently America is the best country in the world as long as you have to backpedal from previous statements. >"A bunch or anti federalist people in a "militia" that consisted of Timothy McVeigh at one point" You're really making him to be some sort of honorary member. I'm pretty sure it consisted on more than one person, and no I didn't "get what you mean" because when you claim that the militia consisted of Timothy McVeigh you're pretty much saying he was running the show. Again, if a Staples employee blows up a government building, is Staples a terrorist organization?
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  96. HumanRights4Everyone So you read my critique of the social contract and misread the part where I compared it to a shotgun wedding to an abuser?
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  97. +Lord Zephyros walmarts that still sell guns are gun stores. They're FFL owning, honest to god gun stores. With a wallmart attached. If your local gun store decided that it should become a grocery store too what's the issue? The gun sales still have to go through the FFL. Or you're one of those people who think guns should only be sold in seedy basement shops like in GTA IV?
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  98. +pepelapiu2004 actually the studies that proved that were plagued with reverse causation. If you get shot, you were X times more likely that you had a gun, because the studies tracked people who got shot, not gun owners and waited for them to get shot (because statistically that doesn't happen). The opposite isn't true, owning a gun doesn't make you X time more likely to get shot. Another problem is that if you live in a bad area that means you're more likely to get shot, you're more likely to get a gun. Therefore buying a gun has no bearing on how likely you are to get shot, but your likelihood of getting shot might push you into buying a gun.
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  99. joe skuse yes, you eliminate the people. If you solve the underlying violence problem, the people won't get into violent situations, and thus they won't be in the situation in the first place. Remember, guns haven't existed through most of mankind's existence but we've always killed each other. Eliminating the gun would still result in death, just not gun death. This of course, implying you can uninvent the gun. The British made the STEN out of spring and steel tubing, so simple the Danish manufactured STENs under the noses of Nazi invaders in a bicycle shop.
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  100. +omar nasser I'm going to have to stop you right there because an extremely high percentage of terrorists in the middle east show signs of personality disturbances or mental illness that is not found on terrorist leaders. Terrorist leaders are often profiteers or people who seek political power, who take advantage of young men who are desperate and have nothing to live for. I'm not going to address Islamophobia because you know better than me how it is an issue in the US, but the vast majority of terrorists are not fighting for themselves or fighting for their country. Most times they're actually harming their own country or other Islamic countries, for the benefit of countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who fund religious extremists and these profiteers to advance their goals.
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  101. Bob cares And there lies the problem of a two-dimensional political spectrum. Fascism is categorized as far-right due to it's anti-communism stance and it's social conservatism. However, and you can read up on all of this, in other areas fascism was completely schizophrenic and included anti-capitalist rhetoric. For example, in Germany the fascists accused the Jews of trying to spread communism, but also of being profiteers who exploited the country. They turned against Jewish businesses and banking. Industries were nationalized rather than privatized. Economically, the fascists put the "Socialism" in "National Socialism".
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  102. Anon Reaper Except the fact that modern imperialism directly contradicts fascist expansionism. In fascism war and conquest is a method of economical gains that benefits the country. In modern imperialism the country is sunk into debt to serve interests, be it corporations or other countries (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc). I also resent the implication that fiscal conservatives have to be social conservatives, but if you ask me the racist conservatives have socialism in them - only it's limited to their own ethnic background. The rest get rugged individualism, that is if they don't get deported.
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  103. Bob cares That doesn't even make any sense.
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  104. emoninjamonke >"That sled trick won't save them from predator drones or apache longbows" The same predator drones that for every 50 victims they make, only get one insurgent? Great. Kill as many civilians as you'd like, because their families will join the rebellion. >"Also, I would like to see more than 100 american citizens who own a weapon that could kill any tank currently used by any miliatry around the globe" No need to kill tanks. But what kind of kill do you want? Because a mobility kill is achievable without any kind of weapon and just by using common items most adult American citizens can buy. >"If a black man tried to open carry in the same area, I guarantee you he would face charges or at least get taken to the station" Ever heard of the Huey P Newton gun club? They open carry guns all the time. And by the way, white gun owners had several protests over the arrest of a black open carrier in Michigan and the shooting of John Crawford III.
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  105. +LostJomper you can only have responsibilities if you have rights. If you have no rights, you're not responsible for anything.
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  106. Sandhu Sandhu Just my luck, I've only been in London 5 days and in that time frame I had a situation across the street that required the bobbies to come with MP5 submachine guns with EOTechs on top.
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  107. +Jasraj Singh good list but "great media", really? You mean like MTV, E!, MSNBC, Fox News, Huffington Post, etc? Fox News is actually one of the least unbiased media outlets in America.
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  108. ***** Oh. Most of it is shit as well. I certainly wouldn't prefer to watch German or Turkish media or something oddly specific like that, but in American media there's clearly a trade-off. The good stuff is completely outnumbered by the trash. Let's just say, even the shitty American stuff has good production values. Even the "best" stuff from other countries looks cheap and that sort of makes it unwatchable.
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  109. +detroitshadowlands >"the militia is a bunch of racist right-wingers!" >"wow they're not even enough of a racist right-winger group to engage in mass murder, ahaha such pussies!" 2016 political discourse.
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  110. Jamie Holmes He'd still be able to kill me with a knife.
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  111. Jamie Holmes You asked what if he didn't have a .50 cal (which is a ridiculous hyperbole, the weapons that fire it are too heavy, impossible to conceal, and every round is like 5-6 bucks a piece). I answered. So what if the criminals don't have guns? They're still able to steal, murder and rape. Imagining a magic world where they wouldn't smuggle illegal arms, convert blank firing guns to shoot live bullets or even make them from scratch, I'd still be outgunned vs any common criminal - and most likely outnumbered, because criminals often realize there is strength in numbers. We don't live in that magic world. The day the US bans guns anyone with the capability and knowledge use machining tools will make a fortune. And those who can't afford such crafted weapons will use hacksaws and follow more crude designs like the Luty submachine gun.
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  112. Jamie Holmes Finland has like 45.7 guns per 100 people. It ranks 4th in the whole world for rate of gun ownership per people. Sweden is 31.6 out of 100 and Norway is 31.3 out of 100. Your argument would work if Japan was an extremely violent society. They'd be violent, but low gun crime because gun control prevented them from using them. The opposite happens. Japan is an extremely safe society, with very low rates on any crime, even rape. And even their metropolitan cities are safe, when in most countries big cities are hotbeds of crime. >"All the gun related killings are from people who stole/imported guns etc." Did you just say that gun control doesn't work because criminals will steal and import guns? >"[redacted] had to plan for years for his attack in Norway partly because of the merchandise he needed" Hello? He required massive amounts of fertilizer and other chemicals! Not just guns. He planned to smuggle guns into Norway but he, a complete psycho, had an easier time buying them legally. I actually have an interest in energetic materials and synthesis of explosives. I've read some court transcripts because I was interested in his process. Look, the Utoya shooter was borderline retarded. I'm sorry, but he wasn't a terrorist mastermind no matter how much he tries to convince himself of it. To say that he took years to complete his plan isn't saying much considering the dumb choices he made (at one point he was dealing with such a large booster he could have blown himself to bits, unfortunately he didn't make a mistake inside his own property and turned into dust before he killed anyone else) and the very obvious psychological problems that plagued him. >"No wonder America invended School shootings." Before Sandy Hook, Germany was the country that had the worst K-12 shootings. That was a huge low blow which was completely uncalled for, but good thing I'm not American.
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  113. Jamie Holmes That's fine, but do you at least accept my premises? Scandinavia and Japan are relatively safe places with or without guns, so it doesn't matter how many or how little they have around. Go to an "unsafe" nation such as the Honduras or El Salvador, where legal guns aren't common, and gun crime is extremely high.
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  114. Jamie Holmes Scandinavia is actually riding on the industrialization that came with liberal (European meaning) policies. In fact, today many employers in Sweden buy their employees private healthcare insurance to avoid having them go through the public system. It was never the "socialist" paradise that gave Scandinavia the wealth, the wealth came first or there would be nothing to redistribute. >"A nation that seems to think that adding more guns will create less shooting" Well, all of those shootings mostly happen in Gun Free Zones. I'm European, but in my country we got a police division that has their own cars and patrols school areas. It's more about petty crime than shootings, but there's always guns near the schools. If I wanted to commit a shooting in my country, I'd choose some place away from the schools for fear of getting stopped by those cops.
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  115. +CrossHarry dude have you seen America's landscape?
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  116. tootsie|troll® videogames or it's just the reality of what's been happening in the last decade?
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  117. justletmeuseit But then you're using the term espionage incorrectly. >"_Espionage (colloquially, spying) is the obtaining of information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information._" The way you talked about it at first it sounded like infiltrating the occupying force or bribing inside men into giving up secrets. Because that's what the word espionage implies.
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  118. justletmeuseit lmao, you gave up because you were wrong. Spying is collecting secret information. Civilians attacking conventional forces isn't spying. You'll be wrong until the end of days but your ego won't allow you to admit it.
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  119. CrossHarry You do realize that the US has several ammunition companies which pump out billions of rounds a year, right?
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  120. +Ph4nt0m5u6 That's ridiculous. Many countries with professional armies have a National Guard. In the United States the National Guard was developed from the militia. For example, in the US there are constitutional limits on using federal troops against American citizens. That's why during civil unrest they typically call the National Guard.
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  121. Ph4nt0m5u6 Look, without trying to generalize, those people are pretty much anti-gun. I'm an anarchist, and I have debated many people on the anarcho-communism/libertarian socialism side who have literally admitted that they'd need guns for revolution but they'd be seized afterwards. There would be no government and no gun laws, but people would have the guns taken away by someone, somehow. I actually have a friend who's on that side of anarchism and despite being a gun-nut and a supporter of all liberation movements from Ireland to Palestine, he doesn't believe in gun rights. They expect to take up arms despite not having any, and knowing how to use them despite never having touched one. I know that common people have acquired arms and rebelled, but that was "back when men were men" and the women and children were also "men", if you know what I mean. You look at the faces of the Kurdish freedom fighters and you know they're tough in ways that 17 year old boys complaining about capitalism in their iPads can't be.
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  122. I'm white and I can confirm, most of the fighters have a trashy look. I do kickboxing in a martial arts gym owned by a university. I'm well aware that 90% of the other combat gyms are not located in such nice parts of town. Gyms are big, specially multi-sport gyms that have classes in the same schedules and need several rings. Fighting sports doesn't bring that much money so a lot of gyms are located where land is cheap - away from the nice, privileged parts of town. And yes, fighting sports have the tendency to attract bullies and douchebags, and while you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover douchebags do have a "uniform"/"dress code" which we all learn to identify and react to when you see the guy with a crew cut, gold chains and all-Adidas attire.
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  123. It's not a muzzle-loader, it's a lever-action. They asked her to prove the weapon safe and she did say clear, the cut might be out of context but it did seem like they were asking her to make the weapon safe - not check for obstructions/perform maintenance. If you're "checking if it's safe" ie you don't know if it is, you probably should not look down the barrel after it's been deemed cleared. If you're only saying "clear" after looking down the bore... Yikes.
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  124. +Pela G >"powerful" You mean 5.56 weapons, the same caliber that the US Army complained couldn't even stop malnourished Somalis? They're not powerful at all. Hunting weapons are typically more powerful.
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  125. +heroesandcons09 as an anarchist, you're trash. Socialists always end up creating another state to subjugate the people, and if anarchy is meant to be wielded violently it must be against a violent state, not against people. No matter how much you disagree with these people, they're not taxing/stealing from people, they're not deporting people at the rate that Obama's administration has been, they're not bombing other countries overseas.
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  126. +MV M >"They held out due to geographical advantage, the government knows every single crevice of this land." So with satellites over freaking desert the US armed forces were blind, but in a country that also has rocky formations that suited guerrilla operations in Afghanistan so well and forests (tough to see through tree tops) and is also many times larger, the US armed forces would simply know everything? Or worse, the insurgency wouldn't be able to just blend in with the crowd? I'm pretty sure it would.
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  127. ***** >"we have every single square mile of the us mapped, and mapped more than once" The map doesn't tell you where people are. Good job, here's a mountain, here's a river, here's some trees. >"we have military bases literally everywhere" Probably not good places to settle down an insurgency. Noted. >"satellite imagery in Afghanistan and other countries were not effective simply because of huge latency and very little practical knowledge of the geography and people" It didn't work there because reasons, but it would work in America because reasons. How the hell does geography and the locals mean that the satellite imagery can't be used to wipe out Middle Eastern insurgents, but it would most definitely bring and end to an American rebellion in 0.1 seconds? Because that's the implication, American militias have the technology disadvantage, but it doesn't matter that the US spent a decade in a war of attrition with insurgents who had about the same technology gap. >"nor does the average american and the world for that matter want or need a domestic conflict" What the average American wants is hardly a barometer for what is going to happen. Most people don't have a say in what happens and have actually developed chronic apathy. There's so much manufactured outrage over everything, most people don't actually act on their outrage. A civil war could be going on out there and they'd be watching the Kardashians.
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  128. Daniel Iturrizaga if you are so afraid of knowledge, don't use the internet, don't watch TV. Sadly killing people is easy, and everyone knows how. We've been killing each other for thousands of years, you think you knowing how to make "k3wl" napalm is a bad thing? Well at least you won't make it accidentally. Fact is, information should be free. Otherwise it's censorship. Rather face the dangers of too much liberty than the safety of tyranny.
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  129. +SquadPoop You know that Christopher Dorner was against gun ownership and applauded Piers Morgan, right? Didn't stop him from killing a few people.
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  130. SquadPoop You said people for gun control don't shoot people with guns. Christopher Dorner killed 4 and wounded 3 despite his beliefs.
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  131. >And do you honestly believe and want to argue that just because some king/warlord/politician quotes some theology, their motives are truly based on the theology? Quote the part where I said that. That's right, I didn't. If you really want to stand by what you just said, don't act like EVERYONE under the orders of totalitarian regimes were Atheists. >all you are doing is picking parts of history you like and dismissing others Except I didn't. GG.
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  132. That a lie lol
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  133.  @jtswhitewater4940  Russian vehicles and uniforms are seen in drone footage. Rebels are killing Russians? I guess the vodka must be good.
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  134. Someone would notice and start removing the function that allows the drone to be connected.
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  135. I'm completely against the concept of being fat and lazy, but there is no reason to hate people or even generalize a whole country. First because there's probably enough snobs in America to compensate for the fat people, secondly the BMI index is outdated and doesn't mean anything about health.
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  136. How many died 2019 to 2021?
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  137. I'm sorry, but I can't stand it when someone tries to argue for the use of children as a political tool. I'm pretty sure people here don't see Israel with good eyes, but even they can agree with me that brainwashing children isn't the way to solve a conflict.
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  138.  @Reddestlion89  Makes sense, similar to the opiate crisis in the US starting with over prescription of painkillers.
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  139.  @NN-bv9lq  They're aware, this footage has been abailable for months.
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  140. You can build guns for $7, no printer required. You'll make even more money than the 3d printer guy because you're not investing on anything and your product is more durable.
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  141. Terrorists had this tech simce the 2010s. Stop.
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  142.  @mattsapero1896  You said that they had the capability now. They've had for over a decade. Since the beginning of the US that terrorists had access to firearms. They can get firearms right now. How many terrorists have you seen using firearms in America? Just because something is easily available, doesn't mean terrorists are using it every day in America.
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  143.  @mattsapero1896  Okay, but drone dropped bombs were used in the ISIS conflict. Venezuelan president Maduro and one Iraqi PM have survived drone assassination attempts. They're not more vulnerable now. They've already been attacked.
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  144. Why? Because they can't do anything but throw temper tantrums?
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  145.  @helenadkins3002  The West didn't cry when bullets started flying they way, they just pressed on and kept going. Russia meanwhile bitches and moans about sanctions and weapons deliveries. If they're so strong, they should shut up and take it.
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  146. Go there. Try to catch a fart bomb with your hands.
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  147. One thing you forgot to mention - war prisoners were a good source of slaves back then. Tribe leaders were not forced to capture other people, they knew that their enemies could be merchandise. 500 years ago and war was already extremely profitable. Slavery is closely tied to race, but the number one reason was greed.
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  148. Problem is when people use guns to restrict your mind and your sex. Back in the 60's, my country was a dictatorship. You'd probably get arrested and fined for making out with a girl on the street. You'd probably get imprisoned if it was two guys kissing.
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  149. So they're children? They're babies throwing temper tantrums? They began the war, they suffer the consequences of war. You hit others, you get hit.
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  150. Exactly. Stolen. The Mexican government is so corrupt that they bribe government officials to sell/look the other way while they steal firearms. They have anti-air missiles and full autos. They're not buying those legally.
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  151. They've known for months.
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  152. Look, what would happen in guns were banned? Only criminals would have them. What happened when alcohol was banned? Criminals made a living out of it. What has the War on Drugs achieved? Kids are still getting all the drugs they want, and cartels have gotten rich and powerful. Criminalizing drugs is a way to solve economical problems and force people into low paying jobs. In my country drugs were decriminalized (still illegal) ten years ago and abuse dropped 50% in this decade.
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  153. Remember that legal machine guns were only used twice in criminal activities since 1934. That statistically makes the owners of those guns some of the most law abiding people in the US.
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  154. 90%? False. 87% of the guns that the ATF could track were indeed from the US. How many of them were tracked? 6,000. But the batch was 29,000 firearms. The ATF wasn't able to track those because SURPRISE, those guns weren't from the US and were not legitimate - therefore untraceable. So it was 5 thousand and something firearms from the US in a batch of 29,000. They run a billion dollar business, they can afford to buy in bulk from arms dealers.
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  155. So they're babies who can't handle a loss?
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  156. So repeater antennas could spoof the location.
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  157. Incidental. That's like saying that Hitler had Jewish heritage. Doesn't change one bit what happened, doesn't justify it and doesn't even make sense. Those people were killed by political reasons, not "in the name of Atheism". The fact that those leaders touted Atheism is a pure Red Herring - and doesn't imply that everyone under their orders were in fact atheists.
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  158. The US fought a drone war for two decades in Afghanistan.
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  159.  @jingbot1071  It's so obvious and you didn't remember it before posting... Says more about you than me.
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  160.  @jingbot1071  No, what's your point? Your point seems to be that because drones are good at being cost effective at withering away an army (with massive vehicles full of fuel and ammunition, plus identification marks) they're also good at controlling a populace. But what happened was that kills by drone caused so much collateral, more people joined the insurgency.
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  161. Yes, unfortunately we distributed the territory between ourselves without caring for the populations that already lived there. The fact that some borders were drawn with a ruler says it all.
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  162.  @asher_2789  Sun only works for half the day, energy depends on latitude, requires a lot of space. Wind whacks birds, and depleting wind energy causes change to climate/erosion patterns, etc. Renewables are not a silver bullet. You'd still need something like nuclear to provide at least part of the base load.
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  163.  @0IIIIII  So? Argument from popularity is a fallacy, not a valid reason. Like your parents told you, if all your friends jumped out of a bridge that's no reason to follow. If anything, you're making more on an argument to go live in those places, and allow the United States to be different. You've proven nothing.
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  164. I defend both freedoms because prohibition isn't the way out. But ask people who want drugs legalized how would they feel about legalizing ALL weapons? Both sides are tremendously picky.
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  165. They reload the expended casings.
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  166. There's a ton of programs. Billions are spent on the homeless. No change. A few billions sent to Ukraine, and I get to see the footage. Seems a better use of my money.
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  167. Exactly. I don't care either. When war comes to a country, suddenly "racism" stops mattering.
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  168. Russia has resorted to using drones from their civil protection services. You know, the ones for fire surveillance?
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  169. Sandy Hook has happened before FPSRussia. 0/10, not even mad.
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  170. Communism is economics/politics. Atheism is rejecting theology. Thanks for playing, but game over.
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  171. Then go fight with them. Tells us how much winning was worth after a drone dropped grenade took your arm. No dent! Don't expect Putin to pay you a pension after you gave your body for him. Winning.
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  172. Don't bother. TM 31-210 Improvised Munition Handbook. That is the real deal, meant for military use.
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  173.  @kaneidareyue7715  Russia has violated almost every airspace in Europe with their military aircraft, including even Portuguese airspace. On the other edge of Europe. I guess they deserve an invasion.
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  174. Can't dislike someone for making money, but the dude has spat quite some BS and passed it off as "knowledge". When AR15.com confronted him after his arguments for birdshot in home defense, he used Dick Cheney's hunting accident as proof of bird shot lethality.
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  175. The .50 cal is anti-aircraft? Good luck bringing down a Cessna with it. It's an anti-material rifle, so I guess you could call it anti-aircraft as long as it's grounded and not moving.
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  176. Please join them, how great will advance be when you lose an arm or a leg to a drone? You'll be sobbing and crying on the ground bleeding out, but telling yourself it was worth it for the "advance".
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  177. Someone's projecting.
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  178. What I meant was that slavery was always economical. People just found a way to justify it with race. It's easier to convince yourself you're a Christ-loving "good guy" if the only people you hurt are some weird creatures from a continent everyone once thought to be the end of the world.
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  179. Z lost in Afghanistan. Let's make this another Afghanistan.
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  180.  @marilynlucas5128  Least schizo Russian supporter.
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  181. That short barrel rifle looks like it's from the US? If it was, it would be already illegal there without a tax stamp and the ATF having the owner's fingerprints on file.
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  182. Drones have limits. Ukraine is being bombarded by artillery, which is where they're mostly disadvantaged. I heard a 10:1 disadvantage. They need HIMARS urgently because the range and speed means they can shoot at artillery without getting shot back. Drones can't get there in time.
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  183. Russia shelled civilian areas. I guess the separatists were living in this delusion in which they could shell civilians without anyone shelling them back. They sowed the wind, now they reap the whirlwind.
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  184. Oh, I definitely agree on the pills, they have become so legitimized in the developed world it's got out of control. I definitely don't like people doing heroine, meth etc but drugs should at least be safer and offer a way out to those that chose the path - not send them to prison and make them nearly incapable of ever getting cleaned up.
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  185. Thanks, king.
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  186. It wasn't ignored, it was reported. You ignored it. Not Vice's fault.
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  187. It's easy to hack a drone to make it stop phoning home.
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  188.  @UnbrokenWillll  If this was a significant concern, there wouldn't be drone footage being consistently posted almost every day.
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  189. By the way, the channel "taofledermaus" has some high speed footage (slow mo video) of the Big Sandy event.
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  190. In the 17th the TB2 was used to film the tugboat getting hit.
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  191. That's pretty hypocritical, but fair enough. Most people also "only" have guns for self-defense. What do you think most people have guns for? "Only" school shootings? "Only" doing drive-bys?
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  192. +Bob der Bär so by that logic Christoph Waltz is an asshole for accepting the role of an SS officer in a Tarantino film.
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  193. +Maershkin Schrabs not to mention the multiple war crimes committed by allied forces meaning that by their logic nobody should reenact as any side at all.
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  194. In the 17th a bayraktar filmed the tugboat that got sunk.
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  195. >You people bitch about 2 thing when it comes to illegal I'm not bitching at all, and I am not blaming anyone for the "problems". I'm just saying that freedom and illegal immigrants aren't related or mutually exclusive. If I am for freedom, should I be for accepting illegal immigration?
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  196. The Ukrainian forces have shared footage of this, they use drones to find the counter-drone antenna, stay outside the range, sight for the artillery and they fire a barrage at the counter-drone antenna.
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  197. What power vacuum? Also the invasion happened under Biden.
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  198. It's patterned after the 1911 but has a double-stack magazine, look up "2011" "double stack 1911" or "1911 raceguns" and you'll find brands that make them.
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  199. +kissfan7 do you actually believe that poor white people from the South who didn't own any slaves wanted to die over black people? Just like in most of history poor people signed up or were forced to fight due to the conditions they lived in. How the fuck would you support slavery if you were a poor white and couldn't find manual labour because black people were forced to do it for free? You'd hate slavery just like modern Americans hate losing jobs to overseas sweatshops.
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  200. They've been doing this for months. Do you think before posting?
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  201. I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure almost every country will deport illegals. Being an illegal immigrant has fuck all with having freedom, it's leeching (sorry for the choice of words, but I'm not a natural English speaker) of the freedom and opportunity in a country by taking it away from those who worked to get citizenship. Anyway, isn't illegals more a problem with the country they came from? If their country was better there would be no need to move.
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  202. +Nathaniel Bixby then if he loves guns but values human life he should go back to China and just love guns without actually getting near them. He doesn't. He stays out of China to be able to play with guns, he just thinks he's a big man with a gun and doesn't want others to have what he has.
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