Comments by "Tammy Irwin" (@tammyirwin703) on "COURT TV" channel.

  1. I’m so disappointed in our justice system that you can kill a person let alone your father, and only get one year and like five years of probation. Disgusting.
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  2. I hate to break the bad news to her but yes, when you see a psychiatrist or therapist or counselor if there is child abuse yes they put it in the report. She’s a liar. She’s a damn liar.
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  3. I like how, she’s trying to throw shade at her brother and throw him under the bus but he’s not the one that threw dangerous chemicals that burned her father to where he ended up having to have his legs amputated, and then ultimately died so once again, she’s not taking responsibility for her actions
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  4. He was trying to protect his dna 🧬 innocent people don’t go to these extreme lengths like he was
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  5.  @steelcom5976  she has said several times that she has testified that he was not physically abusive to her. She didn’t fear for her safety. You’re a super fan of Wendi 😂😂😂😂
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  6. She wants everyone to believe “it wasn’t a benefit” she’s a damn LIAR! Wendi’s lies have LIES!
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  7. First of all, if grand juries were beyond a reasonable doubt, then we wouldn’t have to have trials now would we 🤷🏻‍♀️ I personally think Bryan and Company are reaching like really reaching with some gogo gadget arms😂😂😂
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  8. No, I don’t think he’s sorry. I believe this man is only sorry he got caught. He does not give two shits about anybody but himself.
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  9. Because I’m sure it did not happen, and she just saying this because of her husband and his so-called near death experiences
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  10. I just came here to comment the same thing. I will never understand it.
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  11.  @ns2110theonly they only need circumstantial evidence and I believe the government could try her with what they have.
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  12. He gave her nothing but praise and she is the best thing since sliced bread and spoke of her integrity 😂😂😂😂 and now he gets to eat his words
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  13. I agree with you and I hope you’re correct!
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  14. Let’s not assume she was intoxicated. I would go out with my friends and not ever drink alcohol but would have a Diet Coke. Just because she had a drink in front of her at any of the places they went doesn’t mean it had alcohol in it.
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  15.  @riase you don’t ever recover from CRPS it gets worse over time and she’s just dealing with the pain because the court order says no treatment for pain for her so they are tomenting her. People with CRPS have their good days and bad days and then they have thoughts of suicide. Tell me you know nothing about CRPS without telling me you know nothing about CRPS 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  16.  @ns2110theonly  and that interview was done a few years ago even before Charlie was arrested and charged. I’m a firm believer that Georgia is making her case against Wendi stronger by the day.
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  17. He only pled guilty to the abuse of a corpse and falsifying evidence
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  18.  @grunge6306  it’s not about having confidence it’s called having enough evidence to even get an arrest and having enough probable cause to have a judge sign it
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  19. I do not care what this child did, or did not do he nor any other child deserves to be treated in this manner. This is straight up child abuse, emotional, mental physical and verbal abuse.
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  20. Let’s not victim shame here, but I say the same thing to my mom all the time about my brother with his girlfriend cause she’s just like Courtney and I always say that Tara is going to end up killing Tom
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  21. No, his phone has been unlocked for years. It was his tablet and that’s been unlocked for at least a year now.
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  22.  @steelcom5976  I will never for one moment ever believe that she was not involved in the murder of Dan so no I’m not a super fan of hers like you
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  23. 25,000 in restitution when he extorted 250,000 from this family and if he admitted to murder, why isn’t he facing a life sentence on top of his federal charges here in the United States?
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  24. I was attacked / mauled by a dog and that picture of his arm looks exactly what wounds from a dog attack looks like
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  25. Absolutely the hospital fault
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  26. I honestly don’t think anything would’ve prevented this, even if she would have gotten away and divorce this man I still believe that he would had visitation rights, and he would have killed them children along with himself just as a woman I know had left a very abusive relationship, and she beg the judge to not let him have visitation without supervision and the first weekend of this man got visitation. He shot his two children and himself, so everybody throwing shade at the mother, for not leaving, even if she would’ve left I believe this man would have done exactly what he did.
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  27. So what you’re saying is all of us that ever suffered childhood trauma. It’s OK for us to go kill one of our parents or somebody else because of childhood trauma what you lost your freaking mind.
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  28. Just from what I’ve read and the interviews I’ve seen at least 10 since this case started started in court
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  29.  @jlockwood65  actually, I grew up being more than abused by my step monster, but I didn’t do anything like this. She was an adult and therefore she should’ve been sentenced as an adult not a juvenile with one year and five years probation that was a literal slap on the hand
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  30. The United State Supreme Court ruled back in 2012, that it is unconstitutional to sentence a juvenile to prison to life without the possibility of parole so the judge cannot sentence him to life without parole anyways whether the state likes it or not 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  31. Half of nothing is nothing the last time i checked 🤷🏻‍♀️ sounds like the defense is wanting evidence that doesn’t exist
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  32. Because when you’re a public defender, you don’t get to decide who you represent the courts assigned him that person
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  33.  @chrisper5559  did you miss the part where she went to another facility after she was released from the hospital and yes she was and still does have CRPS and if you think this is just a money gram I hope and pray to God, you are never on the receiving end of a hospital doctor, social worker nurse doing anything to you your family or your children because I have been on the receiving end of such thing not to this degree but medical malpractice
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  34. So what you’re saying is anybody that has suffered childhood trauma from their parents can do something like that and we’re not supposed to be in control of our emotions and held accountable for our actions OK?
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  35. I had to go to parole hearings for my daughter many many years ago and I had to drive hours and hours away to get there and I did it. You’re literally in there for 10 minutes and I had already written a 10 page statement so if she has obligations to get her son to school and she can’t be there but she still writes a statement. It’s the same thing they take it, all into consideration, whether you’re in person or you write a statement
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  36. THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  37. Whatever happened to statute of limitations? Usually children have until they’re 21 to file a claim against their accuser.
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  38. Why isn’t the prosecution turning over these records from Verizon and others?
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  39.  @jenndob3865 yes it was Sally Smith and sun coast that settled for 2.5 million
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  40. And the state doesn’t have to prove motive.
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  41.  @bloomingaccents exactly the same thing I said! She said she was the CFO 😂 with a CFO that missed millions of dollars I sure the hell wouldn’t want her doing my businesses books that’s for damn sure.
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  42. They always refer to judges and former judges in that way whether or not they are still on the bench
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  43.  @steelcom5976  I said that she testified that Danny wasn’t physically abusive. I never said that I believed that she had nothing to do with his murder.
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  44.  @steelcom5976  Wendi does not give off the vibe/or signs of a battered spouse so when she said that Danny wasn’t physically abusive, I believed that. Now I do believe that she had something to do with Danny’s death
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  45.  @ag4allgood  having an affair isn’t criminal, and does not fall under child neglect, either
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  46. I have CRPS and I completely agree with everything you said in your comment. People that don’t or have never had this next level pain will never know what we go through on a daily basis
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  47.  @Traceishere  he was sentenced to death however, that was overturned because of one of the jurors a.k.a. strawberry shortcake, and that’s why he has life in prison without parole now
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  48.  @steelcom5976  and as much Danny bashing she did on her podcast she never once mentioned that she was physically abused by him either.
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  49. That’s what the issue was it was a court order not allowing her to move to South Florida so therefore that’s why Danny needed to be out of the way so she could move to South Florida to be closer to mommy and daddy
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  50. I read this entire motion, a.k.a. mini novel and my brain about catapulted out of my head
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  51.  @MichaelLawrenceMagic the Andrea Yates case was like 20 years ago in Texas now just a few years ago that case is really old but for some reason CourtTV thinks that they need to bring cases back on and make it look like it just happened
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  52. Honestly the state isn’t going to offer him any plea but that’s just my thoughts
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  53. ⁠ @julesjay424 when he confessed to that why didn’t they tear the house down and bust up the concrete?
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  54.  @michelesol5425  yeah when Bryan and Company showed up, they were all smiles not very professional in my opinion.
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  55.  @steelcom5976  why are you so team Wendi? That’s what I need to know because there’s a lot of things that make her look guilty as sin with regard to Danny ‘s murder. And yes I have been following this case since it happened with the first arrest in 2016 I watched all three trials starts to finish. She is guilty as sin. She has blood on her hands just because she didn’t give the money to Katie doesn’t mean that she didn’t know about it Pitchin on it, if Charlie was involved and Donna was involved, how can you remotely think for one minute that Wendy and Harvey or not involved🤷🏻‍♀️
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  56.  @steelcom5976  it’s called having a life outside of YouTube and having a demanding job🤷🏻‍♀️
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  57.  @hotboy80baby18 where is it said she was having an affair? Anna had men that were business partners and co workers 🤷🏻‍♀️ doesn’t mean she was having an affair
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  58. I had a feeling all along they would go this route.
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  59. She was his niece by marriage and he got her pregnant and killed her so he wouldn’t be found out by his wife and ya see how that worked out for him
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  60. I just need to know why are we murdering people over a reptile?
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  61. This murder happened in 2002 and she went on the run and was living in Pakistan and went to go live in Italy and that’s when she was arrested
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  62.  @steelcom5976  vibes? I didn’t say that I said she didn’t exhibit any signs of an abused woman. When you work with woman that are / have been abused you can tell when someone isn’t and hasn’t been. That’s all I’m saying.
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  63.  @megane11222  exactly I’ve experienced this type of trauma and shock to where I couldn’t even speak so unless you ever had or been in a traumatic situation, y’all need to sit down because this person that I’m commenting on is correct
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  64.  @MichaelLawrenceMagic  i’m not disagreeing with you that women do this all the time I was just trying to set the record straight that Andrea Yates drowned her five children in Texas many many many years ago that’s all I was doing and yes, there was a woman here in Michigan just last week that the state police broke down her door while she was in the process of trying to drown an infant. It’s disgusting to me and I’m sick and tired of people making excuses for mothers and fathers, who killed their children
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  65.  @Findpepperbridge  honestly they all should be sued! The hospital, department of health and family services and CPS but that my opinion.
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  66. And this is why we have the criminals and all the criminals that reoffend because judges like judge valentine give them a little slap on their little patties and give them light sentences
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  67. @@nancyg8671 but let’s not forget Wendi told her mom everything that was going on. If you don’t think for one minute that Wendi wasn’t telling Donna what Danny ‘s schedule was y’all are crazy because I guarantee you Wendi told Donna what his schedule was and Donna told Charlie if Wendi didn’t.
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  68.  @steelcom5976  maybe you should go back and watch all three trials that she has testified in and then go watch her please interview she did for 5 1/2 hours and then get back to me. She is less than truthful understand when it comes to knowing and being involved in Danny ‘s murder
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  69.  @hotboy80baby18  I watched it and it still doesn’t mean she was having an affair just because a PI seen her having dinner with a man. She was a business woman and it could have been a client or a business partner🤷🏻‍♀️
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  70. That is the lamest excuse. I grew up with an alcoholic, my entire childhood, and guess what I’m a grown ass adult, and would never never do something as reckless as what she did.
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  71.  @dukedematteo1995  I don’t know what planet you’re on but there have been drug dealers that have been sentenced to 20+ years for selling marijuana
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  72.  @Ilene.s we all will be there for that train wreck and dumpster fire 🔥
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  73.  @lesleyhughes3174  I’m not sure if you know this but inmates are not allowed to have contact with other inmates whether their husband and wife. Lori is not allowed to write Chad in jail and vice versa
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  74.  @doragreen3887  maybe you shouldn’t be picking up things that you have no idea what they are and just throwing them? I like how everybody’s blaming on they lived in a house that was a hoarder house. What 😳good Lord and this is why we have youngsters that are criminals and continue to do criminal things because the justice system just smacks their little patties
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  75.  @sandrah2758  I agree with most of your comment however, his attorneys are public defenders. They don’t get to pick and choose who they represent as clients.
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  76.  @malatrova.j 🤢🤢🤢🤢 ya filthy! This is all🤷🏻‍♀️
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  77. That’s exactly what I said
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  78. Lori gave her alibi after 3 years and prior to her trial 😂
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  79.  @camillelong2093  there’s a difference between police lying to you to get information and police and or detectives threatening you
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  80. His defense team is reaching and really reaching at the end of the day. They are just HELL fired pissed off because they didn’t get a preliminary hearing. I honestly doubt the judge is going to dismiss this indictment and start over or give them a preliminary hearing when they start dating case laws from that far back that usually is a telltale sign that they’re in trouble and they gotta reach for something.
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  81.  @babygirl1755  I am beyond blown away how many people seem to think that drinking and driving a car is wrong but they don’t see drinking and driving a boat is wrong. I’m with you on this whole thing.
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  82.  @AbenaD88-dn9me  I often wonder if in most of these threads it’s Wendi and if it’s not her, then it must be her. Attorney is going undercover surveillance.
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  83.  @hotboy80baby18  just because she had dinner with a man doesn’t mean she was having an affair 🤷🏻‍♀️ she worked with men not just women
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  84.  @SmokeySky-ChloeBell  the last time I checked when you become 18 you’re considered a legal adult or did you miss that part
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  85.  @lesleyhughes3174  any and all communication that Lori and Chad have had since Chad was arrested on June 9 of 2020 has been through their attorneys, not phone calls video calls or even letters in the mail
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  86. And then she turned around and tried blaming it on her brother
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  87.  @reenakemp9132 no Dan’s boys aren’t that little however there is a 5 year old that will never see his dad outside of prison walls
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  88. He’s only allowed to wear those clothes during court proceedings they are not kept in his cell
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  89. I’m just waiting to see / hear what’s all in and on Donna’s phone 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  90. Highly unlikely. Sarah admitted zipping the suitcase up with him in it.
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  91. You do realize he was found by professionals that he wasn’t mentally ill right?
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  92. Is that Katie ‘s Attorney sitting next to Courtney right now?
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  93. Exactly. His lies have lies!
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  94. I understand his rights however, it would be a cold day in hell before I waive my rights to a speedy trial. If I in fact, was an innocent person falsely accused of four murders, I would tell my team let’s go to court because I’m not gonna just sit in jail waiting for a trial date that could be 2, 3, 4 years down the road because once you waive that right your case basically takes a back seat
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  95. Seems like it was more than personal to me.
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  96. Nope! They are blood thirsty idiots
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  97.  @5GreenAcres  Joe Ryan would be her third husband, who was the father of Tylee. When Stacey died, Alex was the one that was around not Lori. if I remember correctly, Megan said that Lori and her parents were in Hawaii at the time of Stacy‘s death, but LOLLY died as an infant and they think it was from SIDS. my mind is going blank but I believe Lori wasn’t even born when lolly died
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  98. Why didn’t he go with a neuropsychiatrist that deals with the brain?
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  99.  @lindasue263  she was the CFO for the entire law firm. If she had been doing her job correctly with checks and balances and seen what was going on then she should have taken it to all the partners PERIOD
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  100.  @sissy4506  you are exactly correct it’s big money for them when they do this and as far as the judge goes yeah, he should be held accountable to however, it’s called government immunity which is bullshit to me
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  101. Yep and Cathi Bedy
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  102.  @janicescott6569  Wendi claims they have seen them many times over the years and yes, I’m being sarcastic because I along with the rest of the world do not believe a damn thing Wendi says
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  103. That’s how Ann Taylor works. She got one of her cases a mis trial based on exactly what she’s doing in this case however he was re tried and found guilty but what your seeing is Ann Taylor’s MO
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  104.  @ag4allgood  everything that you just stated shows that she’s a crappy mother however, they’re not supposed to let their feelings or emotions get in the way and their verdict. It should be based on the laws and if they follow the law, the only thing that these parents did was be shitty parents they should not be held accountable for the actions of their son
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  105.  @mkm6458  thank God for the spelling police today 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  106. I get what you’re saying, but she is still pleading guilty to for the charges, which Carrie one to 15 years each and all her sentences will run consecutive and after hearing everything from another channel I highly doubt the judge is only gonna give her one year on each charge
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  107. I love how five minutes turned into 50 minutes
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  108. It’s not been eight years. Y’all need to listen to the entire interview because they got into his phone years ago. They’re referring to his tablet and that has been gotten into over a year ago.
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  109. Yeah just like her son Charlie right 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  110.  @rachealjohnson9739  thank you!
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  111.  @dudemorris7769  just because she has immunity doesn’t mean that she can’t never be prosecuted. It only means that anything that she says in the court room can never be held against her to prosecute her.
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  112. Omg for the love of god she’s a defense attorney. Of course she’s going to poke holes in the government’s case 🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s not that serious 😂
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  113. I find it beyond hilarious that they all seem to find Jesus Christ after they are convicted of murder
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  114.  @corrinnajordan2749  OK and who is to say there’s alcohol and every one of those drinks that she had sitting in front of her is my point
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  115.  @catherineseiler7407  for 9 1/2 years they got away with murder is what this person is implying
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  116.  @steelcom5976  I think Wendi tells half truths
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  117. The government is the one that offers and rejects plea deals and it’s because of the costs that trials of this magnitude costs. I don’t agree with plea deals but could you imagine the amount of trials and how backed up the trial courts would be if every single defendant took it to trial? Hell it would be 10 years before anyone got their day in court.
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  118.  @SmokeySky-ChloeBell  she was a legal adult 18 when she did this, so she should be charged as such not a juvenile, and that’s exactly what this judge did and judge valentine is a total disgrace to the judicial system and that’s why we keep having all these re-offenders because judges like that don’t give hefty sentences
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  119.  @JaredLand  it doesn’t matter what she meant to do, or didn’t. The end result was her dad was burned severely and had to have his legs amputated and he died because of her choices. How do you not get that?
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  120.  @estrella5935  actually, mine was for almost 3 full days so unless you have endured trauma or had a traumatic accident happened to you don’t come here and say anything because I literally couldn’t even talk
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  121. I’m just n the states and I find it really messed up that she’s there but maybe because they aren’t considered co-defendants since they are being tried separately
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  122.  @abby4027  the social worker settled out of court for 2.5 million.
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  123.  @claudiamcdonald8553  you might want to go catch up on the laws because like I said the United States Supreme Court made that ruling and since then over 300 juveniles had to be re-sentenced
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  124.  @amysomething3370  can you please elaborate on how you don’t think the end result would have been anything different then because women that are in DV situations it takes them up to seven or eight times to leave, and usually even after they’re out of it, they end up dead, along with their children, not throwing shade, but I would like you to explain how you think this could’ve ended or could’ve ended differently.
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  125.  @tammieastman9997 the judge decides the sentence not the juror’s
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  126. It was a suitcase and she recorded it all
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  127.  @denisehagwood4542  let me make this perfectly clear. There is a difference between disciplining your child and beating and abusing your child. I never said it was OK to hit your child, but there are people that spank their children not beat their children and they are perfectly fine.
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  128. Because we can’t stomp all over his constitutional rights even though he admitted killing his children he still deserves due process because defendants have more rights than victims in America
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  129.  @shsjs30  maybe you should Google court proceedings from yesterday at his arraignment, because the mother was holding the three-year-old in her arms when he ripped the three-year-old of out of her arms and shot him
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  130. Yeah, kudos to him. They came back within 40 minutes and found her guilty on all three charges.
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  131.  @JodyOwen-we6oo  Chris Watts pleaded guilty if they took the DP off the table so that’s exactly what he did. There was no trial, and then he was transferred from Colorado to Wisconsin to serve his life sentence out.
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  132. What really slays me is if men do this to their children, lock them up, throw away the key, death penalty, etc. but when a mom does that we come up with mental defect mental illness this that psychosis she’s never been diagnosed with psychosis people and tell she met with Kevin Redding her attorney is the first time that was brought up.
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  133.  @Clementine_D  no she was on Scott Peterson’s jury. Her name was Michelle Niche or something like that
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  134. Tell that to the families of Charles Vallow and Brandon Boudreaux, who almost lost his life because of this woman
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  135.  @yvettethomas5533  exactly!
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  136. I did some reading up on it and the FBI and CIA can retrieve any messages but not the voice calls
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  137.  @basicallyno1722  he sure did he wrote it out in his journal exactly how he was going to do it, but we didn’t get to hear his journal and it’s entirety, which I think the judge should have let in and not just let the government cherry pick what their narrative
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  138.  @steelcom5976  she committed perjury countless times what’s not to say that the government isn’t gonna go back in charge her, so yes, she could potentially lose her immunity for all three trials that she testified in
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  139. She sure wasn’t crying when her dad was in the hospital, having to get his legs amputated now was she?
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  140. Why wasn’t she there? Isn’t that called contempt of court for not showing up to your trial ( court proceedings)
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  141.  @neige4221  in Tallahassee 😂 That’s the best part that they have to stay there while awaiting trial in the very godforsaken place that they all hated so much 😊
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  142. And her husband was cheating on her, but the last time I checked having affairs aren’t illegal and they’re not criminally charged either
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  143. I’m pretty sure murder isn’t a skeleton in his closet 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  144. Put yourself in their shoes. How would you act if it was your child that was murdered stop judging these people.
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  145.  @Cuttyunderleaf  they’re only asking for her cell phone records like they do in a lot of cases
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  146. What? That’s no excuse for murdering your child!
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  147.  @bbginc694  I don’t see her taking a plea she doesn’t need to the jury will see that they have covered up this entire thing. From the very beginning the FBI doesn’t come into investigate for no reason.🤷🏻‍♀️
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  148.  @Roy-w2o3f  I am not exactly sure about your comment or how to take it, but are you blaming the government for these parents, mothers and fathers for killing their children?
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  149. I just love Vinnie and his take on this case! Well on all cases but this one especially.
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  150. I flipping screamed when I heard that come out of his mouth!
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  151.  @NuraCaicedo-xh2ok  I don’t think that he pled guilty to these criminal charges. I believe he admitted to financial crimes or whatever you wanna call it during his murder trial.
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  152. Lori always wanted to be referred to as Daybell. However, judge Boyce intentionally referred to her as Vallow 😂🤣 and yes, I know legally, her last name is Vallow and not Daybell.I just thought it was hilarious that Boyce didn’t care about her request.
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  153.  @batangaseaaa so what beef did Katie have with Dan? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Charlie , Wendi and Donna started this entire murder for hire
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  154.  @Kellierose91 I was mauled in my face and mouth by a pitbull and I personally believe those are from a dog attack as well
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  155. Under the prison 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  156.  @AuntBee59  it’s disturbing and disgusting to me that he only got five years and his wife will probably only get two if that
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  157.  @clearjr1 I swear he does this on purpose 😂😂😂
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  158.  @corrinnajordan2749  well that’s funny I used to go out every Thursday with my coworkers and never once in the entire hours and hours and even after hours party did I have alcohol in any of my drinks so yeah it is possible
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  159. Total train wreck
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  160. And I hope and pray to the good Lord above that he throws the book at her and gives her the mandatory life in prison I’ve made plenty of mistakes in my life. you have got to be kidding me? I’ve made a lot of mistakes in my life, but throwing an accelerant or a lethal chemical on somebody and then throwing water on them to activate it is not a mistake. She had to have Google it to know that water activates lye and results in chemical burns
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  161.  @steelcom5976  and I said, I think Wendi tells half of the truth meaning half truths and I never said anything about a vibe.
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  162. In Idaho he can’t plead not guilty by reason of insanity
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  163.  @hotboy80baby18  ain’t? I think you meant that I DIDN’T watch the hearing 🤷🏻‍♀️ but I did and my comments still stand.
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  164.  @iffyangel007  I was beyond livid at that one
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  165.  @lesleyhughes3174 reports are he is married with 2 children
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  166. I’m with you 1 million percent
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  167. That’s where you’re wrong the judge is the one that put the nail in harmony coffin
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  168.  @bbginc694  No, we just goes to show you that they’re covering stuff up and there’s more to the story than they’re letting the public and courts know 🤷🏻‍♀️ they all are shady ASF
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  169.  @Ann-sj4pt  It should have been YEARS! The judges are to light on these criminals/ murderers
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  170. Yup!
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  171. And New Hampshire doesn’t have the death penalty and that’s a damn shame
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  172. And Donna Adelson was arrested last night @ 10:08pm at the Miami airport
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  173.  @jeanettebooker2500 because in Michigan there isn’t a law that says she has to be present during closing / verdict just at sentencing.
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  174.  @TrishD33LGK  trust me I didn’t wanna have to tell you, but go look up Ann Taylor everybody thinks that she’s great Attorney because she got a mis trial but they failed to tell everybody that the man was re-tried and found guilty once she wasn’t his attorney
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  175. Not soon enough! Should have been years and years ago 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  176.  @SandyBarth1 it’s 12 years so he literally gets away with murder
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  177. And in Florida they have the death penalty and the people that should get that sentence don’t! You have soft juries that won’t ever impose it, so there’s that🤷🏻‍♀️
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  178.  @Littlething41 her trial was over and was convicted. This juror never said anything that would get her a new trial.
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  179. And that’s the whole purpose of a grand jury is for them to decide if there is or isn’t enough probable cause to indict them on the charges in which the government has charged them with. If the grand jury was meant to be beyond a reasonable doubt we wouldn’t need to have full-blown court trials and have jurors then would we 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  180.  @jlob5296  The school what are you talking about? The school said it was OK for him to stay and that he should get counseling within 48 hours my question is why didn’t they just make him stay in the office and then my other question is since they were the first wants to see that drawing on his schoolwork why didn’t they ask him the shooter or his parents if they owned guns or if he had access to guns because the last time I checked parents don’t have to go to school and tell the school we own guns or we’re going to buy a gun or we just bought a gunand school didn’t ask the parents didn’t say does not make them guilty of involuntary manslaughter what their son did
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  181. Or maybe he didn’t act like that in front of them? We didn’t live with them and we don’t know everything about them or their lives ONLY WHAT THE STATE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE
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  182. This 🙌🏻
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  183. Has anyone noticed that this was recorded on exactly the same date as Chad’s wife died? Seems kinda weird to me that it’s the same date Tammy died and here Lori is talking about murder
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  184.  @les0101s  yup and Lori will be sentenced at the end of this month on the 31st and Lindsey Clancy. Yeah she deserves to have done to her what she did her babies. Listen, I only mentioned how many years ago it was for Andrea Yates because somebody had mentioned that Yates did it to her kids a couple years ago no it’s been 20 years. Trust me I know there’s plenty of women Susan Smith drove her car into a lake and let her kids drowned the list goes on and on and it’s disgusting to me and I’m not going to make excuses for any of these women, unless it’s proven literally by doctors that this person had a mental defect because some of these women plan to do these things they don’t just snap and then do it.
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  185. We all know that Wendi ‘s lies have lies
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  186.  @OlDirtyBandit  that’s not how the court system is set up to work we have jury trials for a reason
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  187. There doesn’t have to be any criminal intent for it to be child abuse. I don’t know what planet you are on, but you need to come down to planet earth.
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  188.  @surpriseimblack  it’s obvious from what we’ve seen and heard so far that she wanted his money just not him
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  189.  @TNT-lu2et  what about the eldest son? He was smart and is estranged from his family and lives in New York with his wife and family and is a doctor.
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  190. An NFL player
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  191. Also, one of his hair is always found in the bottom of that camo burlap bag
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  192. How so? They are reporting on the trial that is currently underway. If you don’t like it SCOLL ON PAL 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  193. All the circumstantial evidence compiled together and stacking it on top of each other is going to seal this man’s fate. However, I know it’s hard to wrap your head around this, but DNA is still circumstantial evidence.
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  194. I personally don’t believe for one minute Adam, fought for his daughter for 4 years. I believe the only reason he ended up with harmony was because Crystal failed to make it to that court hearing, and the court gave them custody after they took her parental rights away.
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  195. No, unfortunately we have to wait till tomorrow when they go back to deliberate
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  196.  @Ararechan74 she regularly threw random things at her father when she didn’t get her way. She’s the definition of an entitled brat.
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  197.  @PennyxXxDreadful  they settled with Sally Smith and sun coast for 2.5 million
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  198.  @ashlynnhunt5214 you’re correct! They can only force him to be at his sentencing
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  199. I agree with @nicolecoxnrwton416 I’m over the excuses
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  200.  @nicolecoxnewton416  well, let’s just put it this way I am 50 and I grew up in a home with an alcoholic father and a stepmother who used to be the living crap out of me on a daily basis, with held food, water and all sorts of horrific things, and never once did I think, or get angry enough to harm them let alone kill them so even though I’m not a criminal I have a story but then I left home at a young age, and I have been out on my own since so she had options, and if it was that bad, she could have got a hold of her mother, who testified and laughed while she was on the stand, which was totally disgusting to me
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  201.  @praytogodus  the real story is that Karen McDonald was doing this for political reasons and she wants to be the first district attorney to be able to say that she charged and convicted the parents mass shooting 🤷🏻‍♀️ and that’s just the truth
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  202. Not everyone but there is alot that have been wrongfully convicted and that’s just the truth.
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  203. You’re an idiot there was not that much snow on the night/morning he was found
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  204.  @tdmccoy1211  each judge gets to decide whether or not to allow cameras in their courtroom.
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  205.  @CrackHeadHuntersDopeman  actually, you’re what’s wrong with the world to sit here and victim blame🤷🏻‍♀️
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  206.  @ohioh111b111y  well, it’s too bad that you guys didn’t use the same energy towards Ethan who is only 14 or 15 when he brought a gun to school and shot and killed people because I say his brain wasn’t developed yet
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  207. She is never going to a psychiatric hospital. She has a three life sentences without the possibility of parole that are running consecutively.
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  208.  @beermansgoldprospecting I’m sure the state has a lot and they aren’t going to let the public know about it until his trial. Just because it’s not been leaked doesn’t mean they don’t have evidence against him.
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  209. He noted that the bills were ready to go so quickly as they had come about following the 2021 shooting at Oxford High School, which left four students dead, as well as “incidents prior.” Among the bills introduced Thursday is Senate Bill 79, of which Camilleri is a co-sponsor, which seeks to mandate the safe storage of an unloaded firearm in a locked storage box or container when a person knows that firearm is accessible to a minor. This would also extend to locking a firearm in the glove compartment of a car. The bill defines a minor as someone under 18 years-old.
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  210. Nope! He wants to prolong all the things now that he’s back in Idaho 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  211.  @kahledblackman318  and that’s when you need to put your foot down mama and not give give give stay firm and say no like you mean it, and mean it.
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  212. You could just not click on it 🤷🏻‍♀️ but here you are. I will never understand why people click on a YT video knowing who the anchors are knowing they don’t care for them.
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  213. Maybe the defense is on a fishing expedition asking for things that don’t even exist have you thought about that or maybe have you thought about with that much of discovery that was dumped on them they haven’t had a chance to thoroughly go through every document?
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  214. Because the judge is in cahoots with all of them
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  215. But yet here you are 🤷🏻‍♀️if you don’t care for a certain person you can always just scroll and not click on their video 😂🤣 it’s really that easy
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  216. Michigan is a joke and this jury gave the community a feel good verdict 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  217. Mine doesn’t lock if my key fob is in the car even when I hit the lock button
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  218. She no longer works for Suncoast, so how is she able to print out any of Maya’s medical records for in which she is giving a proper today? Doesn’t fall on her hippa laws????
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  219.  @Cuttyunderleaf  I guess my point is when they are take your phone and run it through their software they are taking things off of it. They’re not taking your financial stuff they’re looking for emails text messages instant messages all that stuff. That’s why I said what I said because everybody was having a fit about privacy. The only way they get into your financials is with a subpoena at your financial institution.
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  220.  @TopgunB  to anyone that has common sense. His story is not even reasonable.
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  221. Did anyone else catch it when she almost messed up when she almost hitman instead of repair man?
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  222.  @SueMarie-jq9sm  and I hope the prosecution gets sanctioned for it
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  223. Well that is their job 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  224. Right along with his car 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  225.  @Kthb80  I get what your saying I really do but unless you’re beaten down and treated like she was none of us will truly understand.
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  226. I’m sure they would rather have their mother alive and still here over any amount of money 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  227.  @kitrood319 they are talking about his fathers case not the smith case. Let that play out in court before you accuse Buster of having anything to do with his death
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  228. That’s what they do best. I love how she keeps saying the court but she fails to mention “COURTS” wouldn’t have been involved if it wasn’t for them jumping to their BULLSHIT conclusion
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  229.  @EC-dz3fb  this is the first courtroom I’ve ever heard that be used and I’ve watched a lot of trials in 40 years
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  230.  @mark31995  maybe the only reason Aaron is alive and well is because he’s in protective custody because he’s a crybaby kind of like Chad was asking for protective custody
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  231.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  I agree or in the car
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  232.  @kittycaruso50  yeah nothing like sitting on the front porch with the rifle that you just murdered your three boys with is not screaming I’m guilty.
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  233.  @kittycaruso50  yeah, I’m sure the police just got a false confession. Nobody in their right mind admits to murdering one person let alone their three children if they’re not guilty, and he also admitted that he had been planning it for months get out of here with your nonsense.
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  234.  @KohalaLover  and my point is that he was seen and evaluated by psychiatrist and he was found to not be mentally ill
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  235. They will never move it out of state, nor will they ever find a jury from another state. The crime was committed in Idaho, and he will face 12 jurors of his peers.
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  236. I think there was a case out of SC that involved eye drops causing death as well
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  237.  @heartsmyfaceforever8140 and SS benefits for JJ that amounted to around $4,000 a month
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  238.  @Justme_1221  I honestly don’t think that he’s gonna get sentenced to a lot of time
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  239. Imagine yourself being in the county jail for 2 plus year. Anyone of us would look way different then when we went it.
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  240. You shouldn’t have to take accountability for his son’s actions. He should only take accountability for his own.
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  241.  @colleenshea2293  no none of them are capable of that. All the ones that are talking trash are the ones that think that they’re the perfect parents and have the perfect life.
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  242. And where is your proof? I’d love to see it 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  243. Wrong she’s going to prison where she belongs. She was found guilty of the charges, and she was found to be sane in the second phase by the jury. Her defense of not guilty by reason of insanity didn’t work.
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  244. For what seeking the truth if there is evidence that she tampered with the jury that is wrong on so many different levels, and she needs to be charged criminally and yes, I don’t care who does not like Alex It doesn’t matter if there was evidence of wrong doing on her part he deserves another trial whether they come to a guilty verdict again or not. It needs to be done the correct way.
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  245.  @Lovesanimals736  yeah, I’m curious too. I haven’t heard anything.
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  246. She had it legally changed to this 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  247. And I guess parents need to sit in the bathroom with her 15-year-old to make sure that they brushed her teeth correctly to now according to all the perfect parents out there 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  248.  @DocProcRealm  I never said they were on trial and guilty of smirking bottom line is the attorneys in a death penalty case the way that they were smiling and kind a half laughing. It was very unprofessional in my opinion and guess what it’s the inter-web I can say whatever I want whether it’s unprofessional professional I like it I don’t like it same goes for everybody else’s comments.
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  249.  @kidchecktherhyme4695  listen I’m just speaking in general about these cases where they have video surveillance of somebody sitting at a table with a beverage in front of them. It doesn’t always mean that there’s alcohol in it.
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  250. Think, opinions but where are actually facts? Just wondering
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  251.  @vinhle1601 could have went through his attorney. I know if I was INNOCENT and had an actual ALIBI it would have already been addressed with hours through my attorney after my arrest
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  252. Not in federal court proceedings
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  253.  @Froggymonky he called the police and told them about the 8x8 room that was built and was told they couldn’t do anything about it because a crime hadn’t been committed at that point
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  254.  @babygirl1755  exactly!
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  255.  @eileenruane1464  THIS 🙌🏻
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  256. Why are we even comparing a ginormous school to a home?
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  257.  @twilit fired? That’s funny Wendi testified to him not getting a job at the UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. So what’s your source?
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  258. Corey plead guilty and was sentenced. Alex admitted to these financial crimes during his murder trial however that’s different than pleading guilty
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  259.  @kirks7143 you’re correct in all your comments with that clown 🤡
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  260. Jodi Arias, Lori Vallow, the list goes on and on
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  261. Kayla B. They aren’t dicks they are doing they job as to prevent an appeal based on how their client was represented. He knows what he’s up against and I’m sure he knows his client is guilty but he doesn’t want it to come back on an appeal if there should ever be one.
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  262. @@nancyg8671 oh, I wholeheartedly believe that Cappleman is coming for Wendy I’m just saying it’s a matter of when
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  263. Kayla lost her parental rights to them and I believe her mother has custody of her children
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  264. I don’t because if you think about a judge, Newman got the last word
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  265. July 12th 🙄
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  266. Because he has a hearing problem, a.k.a. hearing impaired
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  267. Because they had to allow the cases in Idaho to be finished and after she was convicted, it’s still a process to get her extradited to Arizona
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  268.  @liuwanzhu4227  yeah, she called me an elite she sure did🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  269.  @sionnach3104  I know Wendy lied and I was just being basically sarcastic when I said according to Wendy, she’s let them see them. I watched many interviews on programs that has been on. I know that they have not seen their paternal grandparents.
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  270.  @sajahf  I don’t have any sympathy for Charlie. I said a five-year-old I do have sympathy for his child not him there’s a huge difference.
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  271.  @45sticky  you’re right, they are innocent until proven guilty however, more likely than that with all the evidence shown in this trial and the previous trials, Donna is more than involved that’s all we’re saying
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  272.  @estrella5935  like I said, we all experience different levels of trauma, and I’m not joking when I say, I literally could not speak no words would come out of my mouth even though I tried to talk, that’s how bad it really was and that was just almost 3 years ago for me
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  273.  @estrella5935  like I said, and this is gonna be my last comment on this none of you know what was going on with her as she seen him leaving the house the PCA did not say that she seen him walking around in the house
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  274. There are different mental health disorders, and or defects so no it doesn’t mean the same.
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  275.  @kevwhit7058  wrong he was 15 he knew right from wrong and I’m not buying that he was mentally ill because he wrote in great detail what he was going to do and other things that he wanted to do mentally defect people just snap and do it they don’t take the time to sit and write down in a journal detail by detail what they’re gonna do
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  276. Most of the time co-conspirator’s turn on each other. What’s not to say the closer her trial gets to winding down Chad chooses to throw her under the bus for a deal? We never know what’s going to happen with these clowns 🤡
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  277.  @jmadventures9830  I don’t see a mistrial for this case EVER 🤣🤣🤣
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  278. That is exactly what I said! She waited 20 some minutes in before she even asked about her boys. I would have gotten out of my van and asked the police what was going on and that my children live on this street. I would have stayed and asked questions not just drive off and go to lunch
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  279.  @TeeJayNZ  well first of all they’re public defenders so they were assigned her case. Therefore, they have to represent her because she is entitled to that right as everybody else is that is charged with a crime in per the US Constitution. And as far as medication goes, Lori cannot be forced to take any medication that she does not want to. She has not been court ordered by a judge to take medication so she doesn’t have to.
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  280. Who cares having an affair is not illegal and it sure isn’t criminal and it sure does not show gross negligence like the prosecuting attorney wants you all to believe
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  281. All jail / prison calls can and will be used against you.
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  282. Because she was only charged with perjury she wasn’t charged for child, neglect, or accessory to murder or anything like that
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  283. No, a lot of people have said that not just you
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  284. Here’s the thing he’s sitting in jail, based on probable cause that he more likely than not committed these murders and it’s up to the government to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed these crimes. If they don’t bring that burden, then the jury will find him innocent
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  285. Yes Charles and Lori adopted him. They had his name changed to JJ through the adoption. He is Kay’s son’s child and her grandson. Charles and Lori always allowed Kay and Larry to maintain grandparent roles up until Lori had Charles killed by Alex and was pissed Kay got the 1 million dollar insurance policy Charles had on himself.
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  286.  @maxdslr  or clerk of court for that matter
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  287. His murder conviction is never going to be thrown out he might and that’s a big might get a new trial that’s it
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  288. Because they are GUILTY OF WRONG DOING!
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  289. I want to know where all this evidence reports of these kids selling drugs out of this house just because it was a party house doesn’t mean necessarily there’s always drugs included
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  290. I hope everyone in this thread, and the jury have the same energy when Lindsay Clancy, the mother in Massachusetts that strangled her three kids goes to trial and I don’t wanna hear anybody say mental illness, psychosis blah blah blah she killed her kids, same as this young woman did to her mother
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  291. Safe storage laws will take effect Come February 13,2024 Michiganders will also be required to safely store firearms when minors are present. A person could be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by not more than 93 days in jail, a fine of no more than $500, or both, if a minor obtains the firearm due to improper storage. Additional fines and fees are then prescribed for an adult if the minor hurt another with an unsafely stored firearm. These increase should a minor kill another with the obtained firearm. To encourage the purchase of gun safety devices, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer also signed off on two bills that amend Michigan’s sales and use tax to exempt trigger and barrel locks, safes, lock boxes and other items designated to enhance home firearm safety.
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  292. No, he’s not entitled to bail. Number two he’s been arraigned on his charges. He is allowed to wear civilian clothing at and all of his hearings it’s not anything to be alarmed about.
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  293.  @kittybreath I just busted out laughing @ Big Becky 😂😂😂😂
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  294.  @lisadahlquist9501  but they don’t give you benzos in jail or prison
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  295.  @idakristinedemesa5234 Kay is the one that called the rexburg police for a welfare check on JJ. Brandon did let AZ LE know about Lori’s whereabouts due to things that involved AZ. AZ then in return reached out to rexburg for them to seize Charles jeep and to do surveillance.
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  296.  @gatdemun  they are because last time I heard the government made a deal with her for her to testify and give them what they needed to prosecute Adam or the debt of harmony, so what are these other charges that you know about but the rest of us don’t
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  297. Your comment is gold 🙌🏻
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  298.  @65cj55  the government should have to turn over all the things including cell phone records from all parties involved, including the ones that have been interviewed. It’s called discovery🤷🏻‍♀️
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  299. They have been during this whole entire process and the judge just said for them to call to get records from Verizon. Why isn’t the prosecution turning over this?
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  300. They did tell them what was going to happen and it was stated in another interview
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  301.  @MobBarley00  it wasn’t a suggestion pal. She literally lived this and yes, they did have a meeting with her and her mother the night before to let them know.
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  302.  @IndyandJazmin in today’s society you can’t even spank your child / children it’s all about gentle patenting. I grew up getting beat with a belt or other objects.
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  303.  @EC-dz3fb  I’ve never heard any attorneys ever say that to each other in a courtroom until this case.
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  304.  @mark31995  Jeffrey Dahmer
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  305.  @mark31995  I’m not going to even get into the details and compare any of the murders any parent that murders their child is unacceptable and I’m not gonna sit there, and say all of this one was worse than that one no, they’re all the same to me
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  306. It isn’t a crime where this happened. It’s in Michigan. I happen to live there as well and them buying a gun and taking their son to the shooting range or target practicing outside in their backyard is perfectly legal.
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  307.  @susanparker6223  exactly!
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  308. And we still have his car that could be a treasure trove for evidence only with the warrant from his parents home
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  309.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  they have cameras all over the place. I don’t think anyone in LE or tge fbi is going anywhere near his place and planting anything. Why does everyone assume he’s being set up? Why can’t people get that people do these gif awful crimes
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  310.  @Gianna646  if having an affair was illegal in a crime there’d be a hell of a lot of parents in prison🤷🏻‍♀️
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  311. I’m glad she took the stand because a lot of people kept saying I wanted to take the stand. I want to take the stand and now that she took the stand everybody’s like I don’t believe a damn word she’s saying well then why did you want her to take the stand if you weren’t gonna believe anything she had to say, she sounds Credible to me right down to the fact of her affair, but James was having affairs also that will hear about in his trial just because you have an affair which I didn’t my ex-husband and that’s why were divorced almost 20 years, but doesn’t make you neglectful parent
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  312. Yes I believe so.
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  313.  @azrobbins01 they all have government immunity so they can’t ever be prosecuted however I hope she sues them civil court
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  314.  @LanaMyslyvetsPlanners her father was also there and let’s be honest there are side effects to any and all medications. So basically what you’re saying is no one should seek treatment because of side effects?
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  315. Maybe they are strained and don’t have anything to do with their families or maybe alienated from her (the mothers’s) family. My daughter wasn’t allowed to have any contact me when she was married because her husband (ex now) was so damn controlling and abusive.
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  316.  @batangaseaaa  are you trying to say that Wendi didn’t play a part in the murder for hire of her ex husband? The world knows that she is very much involved
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  317.  @88jeebs I’m floored at how many people believe that survivors aren’t victims!
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  318. THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  319. Same here 😂
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  320.  @juleswick no contact lenses you will get a jail / prison set of glasses however I have heard people in jail have been able to have someone drop of glasses to them if they have some. I’m not sure how all county jails work but I don’t think that’s allowed once your sentenced to prison
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  321. Mark is a very good defense attorney.
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  322. He is a marshmallow with feet a big softy
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  323.  @ObeseCaligula maybe you should click on a new station covering your nonsense 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  324.  @-The-Darkside  the state carries the burden to prove somebody guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and if I’m innocent, and I know I’m innocent and I did not go anywhere near that house. No contact with those people nothing I would be screaming to go to trial.
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  325.  @mytruecrimelibrary  same!
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  326. What? You do realize it’s not gone to trial because of Sarah NO ONE ELSE!
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  327.  @hollynonya6991  Holly I have learned that the majority of people in the comments of the live feeds of the trial, and in the comment section of these articles never watched the entire hearings that were involving Ethan or his Miller hearing, because I kept stating the same thing that he was found by a psychiatrist to not be mentally ill and that he was on rehabilitate and they want to argue and I gave up on it because they just don’t know how to watch the complete proceedings but they all want to have a opinion.
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  328.  @isabellind1292 that was Juan Martinez that got disbarred.
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  329.  @elizabethlackey9563  the defense
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  330.  @samanthasmile7746  it’s one thing for her to say that she had drinks but for anybody on the outside looking in to assume she had drinks is why I made my comment
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  331. It’s to heavy for me to watch so I’m just going to keep an eye on when the verdict comes in.
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  332. I agree and I’ve watched this entire case this far
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  333. Dan Markel case. I enjoy watching the fall if the Adelson’s
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  334. @ap-mf8ch get outta here with your nonsense 😂🤣
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  335. @ap-mf8ch look here, Einstein this is a public platform and we’re entitled to our opinion and with the evidence they have thus far more likely than not he committed these murders, so keep saying no will find out soon won’t we??
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  336.  @angiejorah  and we should ban all fast food, too, and process food because they make us fat 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  337.  @Adventures-with-Sisters lockers weren’t being used at the time. However I think the school should have asked the parents if they owned a gun or guns since they were the ones that found the paper with the drawings.
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  338. Seems like that needs to be done so he has a statement showing what he did wrong in their eyes to give him the punishment that they did. I don’t care what a child does or if they lie, they don’t ever deserve to be punished or treated and humanely like this child was.
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  339. Just like Jodi Arias trying to use reverse psychology
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  340.  @dgathome4345  James is actually the one that went to the gun store with Ethan and bought it and signed for it not Jennifer she didn’t even know they were going to the gun store that day to buy a gun
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  341. Yeah, I got that out of what he was saying to
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  342. Jonathan Lane I agree with you. Some people need to understand that defense lawyers take an oath to defend people and they have to do their job however it is they see fit as they don’t want an appeal based on lack of representation.
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  343. I’m guilty of the same thing 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  344. His step mom came from Florida but why didn’t his own biological father come up from Florida?
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  345.  @steelcom5976  Gee I don’t know because they have said out loud that their family is close so that’s probably why
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  346. @@nancyg8671 if she ever is charged and goes to trial I truly believe she will be convicted
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  347.  @toothygrin9562  it has been stated that she was never diagnosed with postpartum psychosis that was never said or brought up until she spoke with her attorney that day in her hospital room I’m not saying just this case I’m just stating cases where mothers kill their children society wants to throw it out there that they had mental illness. They had a mental defect but they don’t give men the same free pass is all I’m stating.
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  348.  @helpmeImpoor5314  and based on what I’ve read and heard since this case broke it was stated that she hadn’t been diagnosed with psychosis I have watched this case very close since the day it happened
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  349.  @Clementine_D  your fine it’s so hard to recall all things from a trial 20 plus years ago
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  350.  @John-tj4up  thank you I was close 🤷🏻‍♀️ I knew it was Rochelle. Michelle at this point is all the same.🤣🤣🤣
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  351. If she’s lying through her teeth, did you live with them in their home? Were you close friends with them that you know for a fact she’s lying because I didn’t take her as lying.
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  352.  @andreamessick4567  🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m the furthest from paranoid
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  353.  @roxanne2881  basically all they did was make sure his constitutional rights weren’t trampled all over because they didn’t have a defense and that’s their job to make sure that his constitution rights are upheld
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  354.  @Marina_-_-  even if that is the case she didn’t deserve to be murdered and put in the garbage.
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  355.  @alikat1053  no such thing as jury tampering, because a jury hasn’t been seated
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  356. And we are allowed to have our thoughts and or opinions on this case or any other case we follow 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  357. They can speak if they choose to after the verdict just not prior
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  358. But she didn’t get the last word the judge did
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  359. They have had him since he was 17 months old and all this started when he was 11 years old. You can’t just bring a child back it doesn’t work that way.
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  360. And the state of Arizona has issued an arrest warrant for Laurie and are in the process of extraditing her to Arizona to face charges stemming from Brandon case
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  361.  @rathersleepthanstayawakezzz  unfortunately and it’s really sad
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  362. Yes Ted I live in Michigan and yes the streets and people will be safe with her in prison 🤷🏻‍♀️ get over it! Criminals like her deserve to get life in prison.
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  363. Well I understand everyone being upset about it however she never legally changed her last name to Daybell and that’s why the judge and state call her Lori Vallow
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  364.  @hope4all366  because heaven forbid, they actually blame the person that murdered this sweet child
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  365. @@nancyg8671 she would have to be able to prove that and from anything I’ve seen since this happened in 2014 there’s no proof that he emotionally or physically or financially abused her so that can’t be a defense and conspiracy to murder she could be charged with which is 30 years solicitation to commit murder is 30 years old right there is 60 years even if she’s not charged with first-degree murder
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  366.  @mariee.5912  or O.J. Simpson
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  367.  @dawnsidwell6609 his arrest was illegal? Please explain what made his arrest illegal.
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  368.  @dawnsidwell6609  and that in itself doesn’t make his arrest illegal.
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  369.  @dawnsidwell6609  wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️ no dna was obtained illegally PERIOD! His defense team wants the steps on how the state named Bryan a person of interest / their guy through DNA 🧬 HUGE DIFFERENCE
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  370.  @declan92100  he was also sitting with the freaking prosecution at breakfast
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  371.  @sajahf  every single time she’s testified the lies come out they just need to hurry up and charge her and her mother
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  372. Same!
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  373. 😂😂😂😂 I just spit my drink out
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  374.  @MrShigura  did I say that nobody has ever killed her boyfriend or nobody has ever killed their girlfriend, husband or wife? No I did not say that I’m saying from everything that I have read and heard in all these hearings since day one of him being killed Karen is innocent and nothing you say is going to change my thought on that ever just because we think she’s innocent doesn’t mean we’re in a cult.
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  375.  @gillianbarker5194  well then why aren’t all parents being prosecuted that have had affairs and their child have done something criminal what is going on in this courtroom with these charges is going to affect everybody that has children not just involving guns and shootings either
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  376.  @gillianbarker5194  the prosecution is claiming gross negligent all I’m seeing is child neglect and those two are very different in charges
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  377. I get what you’re saying, but the prosecution called him as a witness so therefore, she has to question him about what he told law-enforcement and his first statement versus what he said in his second third and what he’s testifying to today
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  378.  @RcPlayer-tt2vw  and let me just say this everybody wants to sit there and say they knew he had mental illness, blah blah blah well if that was true, then why didn’t his attorney go for the insanity defense because a psychiatrist said he didn’t suffer from any medical defects. Stop blaming the parents for what their asshole son did that ruined. A lot of families lives not just the victims, but his own and his family’s as well.
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  379.  @CITUAS  neglect is way different than gross negligence and that is what they’re trying to say she did and that’s why they charged her with involuntary manslaughter and everything that has come out in just these last few days does not equal gross negligence
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  380.  @KaJo-b6o  I can appreciate what you’re saying but I personally myself if I’m innocent there’s no reason for me to be nervous if I’ve done nothing wrong I have no reason to be nervous if I know that I’m innocent and they don’t have anything on me I’m not gonna be nervous
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  381.  @R4CHEL__  exactly, and Andrea had been getting treatment for quite a while between psychiatrist all the doctors and medication she truly had and has a medical defect
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  382.  @jmadventures9830  you really think there’s gonna be a mistrial because were commenting on a thread about this get real
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  383.  @marjorjorietillman856  just from seeing her on the stand in 3 trials I’m sure she wasn’t a peach 🍑 to live with. She appears to be very condescending when it comes to Danny and his professional.
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  384. It’s beyond disgusting and disturbing whether it’s a mother or a father
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  385.  @mkm6458  I used talk to text and didn’t proof read it before I posted 🤣
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  386.  @marianne4468  what a travesty
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  387.  @pipermccool  what are you talking about? Obviously you didn’t watch the entire hearing because she’s getting sentenced on February 20th and all her sentences will run consecutive as in one after the other, they will not run concurrently
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  388.  @MrShigura  first of all, I don’t even follow him, nor listen to him. I personally have been following this case since the day after it happened, and it was reported on national news, so I’m entitled to my opinion from everything I have watched in the hearings and read along with all the other people involved in this case so I’m entitled to my opinion. Karen is innocent.
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  389.  @ladybug947 amen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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  390. Because these were recorded jail calls and that privilege doesn’t apply
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  391. It’s called her having to be responsible for her actions what she did was criminal what part of that do you people not understand?
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  392. He doesn’t go to court until 10/26 the title is nothing but click bait
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  393.  @Cuttyunderleaf  that’s not what the meaning of my comment was. My comment was stating that they use cell phone records as evidence in a lot of cases was my point🤷🏻‍♀️
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  394. Exactly. I would rather swallow staples, and chew on glass then to lower my standards to write somebody like him in prison. These women have self esteem issues and mental health issues
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  395. Magazines are what the bullets go into 🤷🏻‍♀️ having the gun and magazine together isn’t wrong if the magazine didn’t have bullets in it
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  396. You’ll never hear calls between inmates so don’t get your hopes up because they’re not allowed to make calls to each other number two of their cod defendants so they’re not allowed to have any contact whatsoever in anyway
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  397.  @organikpnw  It appears that you’re a little bit frosty and salty against the police department are you one of the people that do criminal things and don’t like the police?
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  398. $430,000
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  399.  @rUaBadFish_2  that’s exactly my point I wanted to hear what she had to say that would have prevented what happened
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  400.  @kelleylynch4490  What is the new gun safe storage law in Michigan? The guns must be unloaded and locked with a trigger-locking mechanism or stored in a locked storage container. The legislation, which passed last spring, came after the Feb. 13, 2023, mass shooting on Michigan State University's campus and Nov. 30, 2021, attack at Oxford High School.
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  401.  @Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole that law doesn’t go into effect until 2/13/24
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  402.  @michelleboldan5  I highly doubt that’s what happened but he can roll with that idea. Jodi Arias tried that in her defense and it didn’t work in her favor either 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  403.  @Tay-fl8ym  trust me I’m know I have CRPS
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  404. Kevin Reddington who is Jennifer McCabe’s attorney I believe because he was out of the country but I want to know who it was. It said FU Beverly.
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  405. And after this is all said and done, they’re gonna go after whoever they can in the district that they can. It won’t be over for these prosecutors, even if these two are convicted and I hope and pray to God that they’re not because this will just open the Pandora’s box, and it won’t be in a good way.
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  406.  @mandie1111  right now the states case looks pretty strong and the evidence is stacking up by the minute everytime a witness answers questions. He attorney’s (Thomas) is getting desperate and you can hear it in his voice when he’s on cross.
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  407. Under the bill a person could be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by not more than 93 days in jail, a fine of no more than $500, or both, if a minor obtains the firearm due to improper storage.
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  408. HOW WAS HE NOT IN PRISON with all those charges? He should have never been out to even get custody of Harmony.
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  409.  @InLieuTube  she’s a worthless as a judge in my opinion 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  410. Gifted that last name umm no, she legally changed it
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  411. He can’t even form a sentence he should not even be on this jury to make a decision on somebody’s life
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  412.  @occallie he should have to be there however it’s his right to be or not be there.
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  413.  @MobBarley00  sorry but you mis heard. Carrie has always stated that they gave her family ( her and her mother) a heads up the night before in an interview/ meeting.
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  414.  @Terifica  well, then why don’t you go listen to all her interviews! So you think she’s lying? No they had a meeting the night before her father was arrested.
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  415.  @EC-dz3fb  where did I say that it wasn’t true? I just simply said in all my years of watching trials, I have never heard an attorney, referred to another attorney in open court as a brother stop being a dick.🤷🏻‍♀️
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  416.  @mark31995  usually it’s a case by case and the prisoners doing prison justice, and you have to trust and believe that a man that executed his children and killed him the way Chad did. He is going to have a huge bull’s-eye on his back.
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  417.  @mark31995  so you think because they bleed out quickly it’s okay because of how he chose to kill them?
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  418.  @amym.poterucha8322  yeah I live in reality but his question to me was name one person that got prison justice, so why don’t you go through the entire thread and read because I do live in reality and I don’t give two fucks what the issues were in that household, whether it was financial stress, cheating, whatever Chad Doerman was planning on killing his children I don’t care about anything else we all have stresses in life and we’re not out, murdering our children or other people
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  419.  @Mandyriv  I actually know a lot about this case.I’ve been following it since there was reported that they were murdered. And my comment wasn’t in regards to every little detail. My comment was in regards to the grand jury, so why don’t you enlighten us on everything that you seem to know?
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  420.  @Mandyriv  you’re just salty and frosty that I called you out on your bad spelling🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  421.  @leese.23  his warrant for the apartment is 49 pages
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  422.  @Seaflower722  well since the WSU has cameras I’m sure they aren’t going to be stupid going there and trying to plant anything
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  423.  @tonysplace9255  we as I’m all of us keeping an eye on this case. Why are you so pressed about anything anyone says?
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  424.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  😂😂😂 like I said y’all are wild! I love a good conspiracy theory but damn you are straight up next LEVEL with this case.
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  425.  @Stargazergirl104  maybe his attorney didn’t request for him to wear street clothes with the judge and her attorney did.
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  426.  @deniseyeaisaidit  said every cheater well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I never cheated however, my ex-husband cheated, and we are divorced. I’m just simply stating that having an affair does not rise to the level of gross negligence.
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  427.  @LisaSimpsonRules  she was Katie ‘s attorney in Florida for Dan Markel murder
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  428. That’s where you’re wrong because he wrote in his journal exactly where he got the gun from and when, and it was not from his mother’s SUV
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  429. That’s not how charges are ever brought against anyone. However I think she deserves to be under the prison
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  430. I’m not sticking up for him but putting your phone in airplane mode charges your phone faster AND if you want to hang up on someone put it in airplane mode so it appears as a dropped call
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  431.  @stephenj.schneider5185  they both testify that she was told actually they were told to get him into counseling within 48 hours not now and they also gave them the option that he could stay in school or take him home and Ethan wanted to stay in school and they were OK with that because they didn’t see him as a threat
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  432. Dan‘s service was on the 20th and she moved back to South Florida on July 21st 2014
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  433.  @dawnmarkey2194  I get what you’re saying, but survivors of crimes are considered victims to whether any of you in this thread like it or not
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  434.  @tamarevans9025  again I cannot wrap my head around anybody, thinking that families of murdered victims, or any crime aren’t victims themselves because they are in a court of law. That’s why the prosecutor office have victim advocates you understand that right?
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  435.  @tamarevans9025  in a murder trial and we’re going to use this case because that’s what we’re talking about the husband that his wife was murdered. He is considered a victim. I’m not referring to her as a victim in any way shape or form.
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  436.  @melindapace3672  no I never said that I believe that the jury was correct in their findings. Another person in this thread said that the husband and extended family are not victims. Yes they are.
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  437.  @tamarevans9025  and that’s fine I’m just stating that I believe she’s where she needs to be and whether or we like it or not her family is standing beside her but at the end of the day they consider the father and the family of the murder victim victims as well
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  438. Maybe Ethan’s room wasn’t as horrible as it was when his friend was around and I got that way afterwards we don’t know
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  439. Who is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Don’t speak for all of us. Speak for yourself.
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  440.  @justsomeguy9280 because they were minors at the time
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  441. Yeah, if he pleads guilty, which he’s not gonna do that, unless they take the death penalty off the table , but yes, he could plead guilty. Avoid a trial, and the judge could sentence him for the rest of his natural life in prison. And that’s exactly what Chris Watts did in Colorado and then they shipped him to Wisconsin for his safety which is straight up BS
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  442.  @CourtTV 😂😂😂😂
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  443. I am just getting to be able to watch this interview and I lost it when Kay started talking about JJ fighting coming into this world and had to fight for his life at the hands of his mother at the end
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  444.  @dawnarellano7903  you’re correct he does know right from wrong. However, his brain is not fully developed yet as we all know that doesn’t happen until you’re around 25 and we don’t know what his life was like a living with his mother, and when I saw him on the stand. All I could see was the terror in his eyes, maybe he’s not speaking of the abuse that he endured if he didn’t do what she said, so I’m not gonna pass judgment on him what he did was horrible and he’s taking accountability for it by pleading guilty but I don’t think he deserves to spend years and years and years in prison
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  445.  @juleswick  it isn’t just you we all would be unrecognizable
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  446.  @josiechaplin5312 more like the silent co conspirator 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  447. She’s disgusting🤢🤢🤢🤢
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  448.  @edwardromo7914  just because he did the act of an adult doesn’t mean that he is mature in the sense of an adult. It is a scientific fact that children’s brains. Are not fully developed until 25.
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  449. Like I’m protective of my children and grandchildren however, I am not micromanaging and being all up in their business granted my kids are adults now with families of their own and I barely have time to brush my teeth and put pants on. How the hell does anybody have that much time to be in their children’s lives like that?
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  450.  @doygazgar  you’re correct he ETHAN did this. he had it all planned out in his journal. The judge should have let the journal and it’s entirety in this trial not just cherry picked what benefited the prosecution and their narrative
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  451.  @fashunpuss6279 only in the crappy state of MICHIHOLE 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m embarrassed to say I live here
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  452.  @annebosworth7048  and you must be one of those perfect parent that I talk about too🤷🏻‍♀️
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  453.  @BabyT709  they had a total of four children plus them so that equals a family of six the last time I checked so she’s wrong
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  454.  @MummyBrown he isn’t doing any of his time in the US. The Peru government wants him back and had an agreement with the US that he would just come here for the charges of wire fraud and extortion
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  455.  @pmshea63 she was found guilty in 2 counts of 1st degree murder of Tylee and JJ. Guilty on 3 counts of conspiracy for Tylee, JJ and Tammy and 1 count of grand theft.
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  456. How convenient it’s been sold.
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  457. And I’m glad that the jury took into consideration that she was 18 and threw a chemical on her father, but then took it a step further and threw water on him to activate that chemical, so I hope on July 25th the judge gives her life in prison
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  458. I agree or they let the dog outside to attack him 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  459.  @jupiter3545  he was asking to be put in protective custody
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  460.  @adonyisrael1724  said they were in on the letter. Now whether that was helping write it or delivering it I’ve yet to find out. I’ve been rewatching the proceedings from yesterday but the audio when the judge was speaking is garbage
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  461. THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  462.  @RB-ou9su  I’m just saying the majority of convicts always claim that they found Jesus while incarcerated and just because they say it doesn’t mean they truly have FOUND JESUS
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  463. Exactly because now I need the jaws of life at this point to get that visual out of my head 🤷🏻‍♀️😳🤮
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  464. Actually, it is something that is taught to social workers. I have a few friends that are social workers that have told me beyond horrific stories that I don’t even want to think about anymore.
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  465.  @annebosworth7048  well my son is 32 now and he had gun since he was 12 so there’s that and no criminal activities and he sure didn’t go shoot up a school and I didn’t hover over him like you expect every parent to hover over their children either
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  466. Safe storage laws will take effect Come February, Michiganders will also be required to safely store firearms when minors are present. A person could be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by not more than 93 days in jail, a fine of no more than $500, or both, if a minor obtains the firearm due to improper storage. Additional fines and fees are then prescribed for an adult if the minor hurt another with an unsafely stored firearm. These increase should a minor kill another with the obtained firearm. To encourage the purchase of gun safety devices, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer also signed off on two bills that amend Michigan’s sales and use tax to exempt trigger and barrel locks, safes, lock boxes and other items designated to enhance home firearm safety.
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  467.  @jujulionesselsa1416  and that’s your opinion and she looks more credible to me than anybody else involved in this case and that’s just my opinion
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  468. Exactly! Even if this child / teenager lied he didn’t deserve any of this horrific punishment
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  469. I live in Michigan and his parents are only charged with involuntary manslaughter, so they are not going to be serving a life sentence
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  470. And I am 100% sure that her throwing that chemical on him and then turning around and throwing water on it which activated it she knew exactly what she was doing. I hope she rots and I hope she gets sentenced to life in prison on July 25 at 8:30 in the morning.
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  471.  @matthewfors114  just because the government brought charges doesn’t mean she or anyone else is guilty. It’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and I have heard plenty of doubt. Have your opinion and I’ll have mine🤷🏻‍♀️
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  472.  @JulieeD33 exactly what I’m waiting to hear.
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  473.  @benzocorbynista3321 Katie & Sigfredo then retrial for Katie and Charlie’s trial just ended with his conviction.
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  474.  @eddenoy321 the Dean of students doesn’t even work there anymore.
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  475.  @eddenoy321  that’s not what I was pointing out. I was simple pointing out that he no longer works there so that says something🤷🏻‍♀️ he was obviously let go after what happened
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  476.  @debbiemartin2026  I was responding to a bunch and accidentally responded to you. I’m sorry
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  477.  @JodyOwen-we6oo  I watched his hearing earlier, and the judge also denied a gag order that his defense team wanted.
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  478.  @MrJuvefrank  the jury said death however if they bring evidence and from what I watched they did then a defendant gets a new trial. He got a new trial and was taken off death row.
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  479. That’s exactly what my thoughts are! Like how did this go on unnoticed?
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  480.  @whatdidyousay2162  that’s just insane to me.
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  481. And it’s only been a total of 12 days.
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  482.  @jeannehammond851 and I have some ocean front property in Arizona forsale 😂🤣
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  483.  @milesstyles7428  and that’s disgusting in my opinion
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  484. Usually they are however lately I’ve noticed the defense in these types of cases asking for a time outside of the normal 14 to 21 days
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  485. He oldest son is Colby
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  486.  @JoyceDee agree! I live in Michigan as well.
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  487. No, he doesn’t have to cave and give into a plea deal. I don’t believe any defendant should take a plea deal. They should all take it to trial, and let a jury of their peers say whether they’re guilty or not guilty why give it to the state?
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  488.  @potheadzndrama267 where are y’all getting 5 years from? She could get up to life in prison for her crime.
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  489. @@nancyg8671 hell no Wendi will never admit she had anything to do with it . She will take that with her to her grave.
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  490.  @toothygrin9562  she wasn’t on 13 medication’s at the time she killed her children she had been on a total of 13 different medication’s huge difference🤷🏻‍♀️
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  491. Y’all are wild 😂🤣 she can be sentenced up to life in prison on the charges she was convicted of. I live in Michigan and the judges in Oakland county don’t play when they sentence criminals that have been convicted. I personally hope she is sentenced to life but that’s my opinion of what she deserves
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  492.  @H_da_6.5 it’s called JUSTICE AND holding them accountable for their crimes 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣 you really are that simple aren’t ya?
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  493.  @Youtubereplies  yeah and there was a federal kidnapping or something along that line from what Georgia spoke of
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  494. He could have had a few loose hairs just because he doesn’t shed doesn’t mean hairs don’t fall off
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  495.  @jamiedavid8023  why are you telling me not to cheat? I’m not married or dating anyone 🤷🏻‍♀️ And if she did cheat it doesn’t mean she deserved to be murdered.
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  496. Poetic justice
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  497.  @-norsecode-  exactly!
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  498. The government is the only one that can bring charges not the judge.
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  499. They had breaking news for the verdict
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  500. All prosecutions have some sort of shadiness in them, but so defense attorneys too🤷🏻‍♀️
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  501.  @raptorchic3042  it is more than disturbing to me.
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  502. 😂😂😂😂😂 Vinnie had me rolling with that
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  503. Unfortunately, not because New Hampshire doesn’t have the death penalty
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  504. I believe this was just a proffer as in like a dry run before she testifies in front of the jury, but I could be wrong
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  505.  @rebeccalasiter5429  i know 😡😡😡😡
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  506. Because public defenders don’t get to choose who their clients are
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  507. Husbands 1,2 & 5 are still alive
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  508.  @ajordan1976 she’s not been charged or indicted at this point
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  509.  @juleswick nope they never asked ever and they didn’t ask the parents to either when they were both at the school earlier that morning.
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  510.  @GaryDoyle-fd3cf  well, you don’t have to buy her story only the judge does and he dismissed the case and charged. It will never be brought against her for this, so that’s all that matters.
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  511.  @tinaholliday7516  that is correct
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  512.  @SunnyM-dh9uf  thank you! I’m looking up anything and everything about this case. Good grief it’s a lot of rabbit holes and so many people involved
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  513.  @SoccerMomof1  exactly
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  514.  @udhehfhehcuw9169  cause I watch the entire trial. FYI and it happened in my state number two she was not crying or acting anything she was going out to party. That’s her dad lay in a hospital bed with severe burns before he had to have his leg amputated and then he ultimately died.
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  515. I don’t think she lied. I honestly believe she heard all of it and was scared for her life that’s why she locked herself in her room after seeing him. Guess that will all come out at the preliminary hearing
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  516.  @jacquelinesento425  well in Michigan you can do video calls and I know this because I have a friend whose husband has been in prison for a long time and they do video calls all the time
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  517. But yet her attorney says her alibi is she was in her apartment with friends when her children were killed 🤷🏻‍♀️😳🙄 her lies have lies!
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  518. Because in the United States of America, even though he confessed to it, and admitted that he had been planning this, he is a defendant, and he is entitled to due process. I wish he would just plead guilty and spare the family and the mother and everybody else involved to not have to take this to trial.
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  519.  @dawnsidwell6609  his dna wasn’t illegally collected 😂
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  520. They are 13 and 14
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  521. Melly’s been in jail going on 6 years and had his first trial and going for his retrial soon. This case for Karen is no way taken that long. John died on 1/29/22 so it’s really not that long considering it’s a murder trial. Most take longer than this to get to trial.
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  522.  @abby4027  Sally Smith settled out of court. Cathi Bedy and Sally Smith are beyond disgusting people and I hope they get theirs.
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  523.  @eleanoraquitaine2966  being a retired journalist is a whole lot different than being a detective investigating this case.
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  524.  @MrShigura  I said nothing you say is gonna change my mind and I stand on that
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  525. States with the DP are to filling SOFT! Y’all are nothing but marshmallows with feet🤷🏻‍♀️
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  526. And the government agencies (cps & dcf) want everyone to believe children are better off being adopted 🤷🏻‍♀️ the amount of children that are brutally abused by adoptive parents are beyond alarming 😳
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  527.  @essdee5876  actually quite a few times. I’ve had to testify and it doesn’t make me nervous. If I’m not doing criminal stuff there’s no reason for me to be nervous I’m not nervous around prosecutors defense attorneys, detective police, because I’m not breaking the law.
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  528.  @Saraseyes611  apparently you didn’t listen to the judge. The cameras would be kicked out of the court room. If they were zooming in on the defendant, he didn’t say anything about us and our opinions on the inter-web.
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  529.  @jacal420  and I hope this judge has the decency to give her the max at the end of the day. What she did, her father ended up dying. She needs to be held to the same standard, as anybody else would, for punishment for killing their father or anybody with a chemical and then throwing water on them to activate the chemical, you people are disgusting because if it would’ve been a male, you all would’ve been saying throw the book at him.
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  530.  @paulahilton1112  I don’t care if he’s charged with a capital crime or not I highly doubt this judge is going to sentence a 16-year-old who was 14 then to life in prison, without possibility of parole, because at the end of the day, even if he gives him a life sentence with a possibility of parole after 40 years, the parole board does not necessarily have to granted parole, so why are you guys are freaking out?
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  531.  @paulahilton1112  because the majority of them are in almost every comment section in any of these court proceedings are losing their minds over it
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  532. Can you explain why you’re not convinced that they’re guilty because everything that I’ve heard for the past year and what I’ve seen these people should never have been able to adopt children, let alone have children
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  533. The dickies tag I’m my opinion belongs to a full body dickies suit in black
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  534. Because all defendants are entitled to bond however, he was indicted by grand jury and was arraigned yesterday and his bond has been revoked. Just like I told everybody that it would be so now you can all calm down. There is no bond at all that $20 million bond he had is gone he cannot get out of jail. It’s been revoked.
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  535.  @vitalucas9452  I’m not sure about you but I know personally for me I’d rather cut my losses and keep my freedom for $50,000. Hell I’ll take my freedom for 100 grand.
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  536.  @biancamaclean4794  Van der Sloot, 36, pleaded guilty in federal court Wednesday to extorting and defrauding the Holloway family. He was accused of trying to sell information about the location of Holloway's remains to her family in exchange for $250,000.
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  537. Sally Smith settled out of court for 2.5 million and voluntarily retired from her position shortly after
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  538. All these people are disgusting
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  539. Because they didn’t stand to benefit monetarily from his children being dark / murdered
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  540.  @MBW37  no one said that she wasn’t crazy 🤷🏻‍♀️ but being mentally insane. No, I don’t think she is.
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  541. Defense
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  542. It’s up to her they can’t tell her she can’t they can only advise her not to
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  543. If she did what she’s been accused of that’s jury tampering and that’s more than just a year prison sentence
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  544.  @HelloPeach  your welcome! I bet there will be a treasure trove on those phones 📱
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  545.  @ninamcgrath3053  you’re correct and Ethan wrote in his journal that he talked about putting away ammunition from the day that they went to the shooting range so he was sneaky but didn’t give the ammunition back that was left over from going to the range and she probably didn’t realize how many bullets that were used that day
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  546.  @tinaschultz1976  I have to agree with you. Most of the time the parole board knows before the hearing on whether or not they will grant or deny the parolee or not.
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  547. Charlie would have been convicted in any area of Florida IMO 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  548. Yes 👏🏻 yes 👏🏻 yes 👏🏻 your comment is good! I’ve been saying this forever and not just on this case.
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  549. And if these families didn’t have attorneys to help navigate through the civil litigation process or malpractice litigation, they wouldn’t get anything so in cases like personal injury attorneys are needed yes, they take a presented, but they are needed to get the settlements
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  550.  @celticwarrior777  it’s so hard to explain it all to those who haven’t followed this case from the beginning
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  551.  @franceshaypenny8481 A$$hole Adelson’s 🤷🏻‍♀️ isn’t that what Donna called Dan?
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  552.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  and never once did I say he sold one little baggie at a time you need to learn how to read and comprehend because I’ve always said it was 3 pounds to a police informant
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  553.  @Me-mn4nw  well since she has lived with me since February of this year I’d say I did something right when she told me 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  554.  @Me-mn4nw  maybe you should ask before you assume that I’m guilty and did nothing because I went directly to police and the courthouse
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  555.  @DonnaLena1  that’s your right however these sworn affidavits are from the jurors not their words.
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  556.  @jayneroberson-blume804  there are sworn affidavits from 2 jurors so what exactly is your point?
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  557. I’m sure the only reason he killed Charles was because Lori was banking on that 1 million life insurance policy and she promised him money but little did she know he took her off the policy and she didn’t get it
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  558. And yet here you are 🤷🏻‍♀️ you knew what it was involving and still clicked on it
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  559. This 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  560. Marine life
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  561.  @Sealust50  I was just trying to keep it clean
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  562.  @cjking4511  oh, trust me I know that it does not make them guilty of gross negligent and being charged with involuntary man sweater I think it’s disgusting so the Oakland county prosecutor Karen McDonald is on a witch hunt
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  563.  @crystaldawn9255 the judge in the Bailey case out of florida was an amazing judge.
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  564.  @jolo7693  exactly!
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  565. Severe their trials he never has mentioned a divorce
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  566.  @CarolynYanik  that’s because they knew they would assert their fifth amendment, right or that they would get caught lying under oath.
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  567. A mistake? What? Child abuse is never a mistake
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  568. Because he hasn’t been convicted yet, so we can’t trample on his constitutional rights, and we have to use the word alleged until he’s convicted via jury of his peers 🙄🙄🙄
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  569. Makes you wonder if they did a tower dump? That would give them all cell numbers that were using that tower during those specific times🤷🏻‍♀️ that’s one way how Dan Markel’s murder was solved and the people responsible were caught.
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  570.  @mikejohnson9960  I firmly believe that the government does have a lot more than what we know about because if they didn’t, they wouldn’t be seeking the death penalty that’s just my opinion
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  571. They claim that toxicology was done however if it isn’t the so called Cadillac of toxicology things can be missed
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  572. I’ve been looking and can’t find any information on his dad dying.
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  573.  @Galaxie08  where can I watch or read about this? I’ve looked everywhere and I can’t find it.
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  574.  @acc4465  well you should be eating your words because Donna was arrested. Exactly one week to the day of Charlie being convicted of the murder of Danny Markel 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  575.  @acc4465  maybe you should keep up on the story. The prosecuting attorney already explained it. They were getting ready to have her indicted by a grand jury on Wednesday. However, she chose to flea on Monday 11/13/23?That’s why she was arrested and she has since been indicted.
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  576.  @9babyblu  why wouldn’t he roll the dice he got her off she was found not guilty
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  577.  @lindafinch1520  oh, I believe the judge is right in the thick of all this with everybody else
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  578.  @rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd  usually children have a guardian at Leitem
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  579.  @Sunshinemakesmehappy808  I guess these people make my brain want to catapult out of my head with their theories on these things
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  580.  @Sunshinemakesmehappy808  🤣😂
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  581.  @BassAholic82  I did say the judge determines her sentence, but there are guidelines in which they can sentence them to four in which the crime they committed
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  582.  @sharynkoren2054 that was from Sally Smith and sun coast
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  583. I completely agree with your statement
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  584. This title is so misleading Ethan didn’t ask for anything it would be his attorney who is representing him
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  585.  @mandie1111  don’t say that because I will literally lose my $hit!
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  586.  @amyc9155  yeah I think it’s going to go to trial and I’m predicting a NOT GUITYbut that’s just my opinion of what I know as of now
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  587. April 1st
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  588. He’s had 9 plus years to run this BS story through his mind and now the jury
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  589. Just the previous year 😳 Lori is exactly where she deserves to be! I just pray they can stick murder charges against her and her wackjob husband.
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  590.  @glitterprincess5672  I don’t either!!
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  591.  @GMW.artist  As a parent I would do the same thing
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  592.  @mark31995  hate to break the bad news to you, but this case that we’re talking about right now with Chad has gone worldwide so it is a high profile case as well
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  593.  @amym.poterucha8322  are you even paying attention to the conversation in this thread he was asking when is Ever prison justice served? It doesn’t matter at the end of the day I firmly believe that he will receive justice inside of whatever prison he goes to unless he is kept in protective custody 23 hours a day. It can only be out in the little small little yard by himself.
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  594.  @amym.poterucha8322  they all are, who is THEY? elaborate on your answer because none of comment makes any damn sense
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  595. Exactly referring to her as a mistress is like trying to say she was a kept woman no, she wasn’t
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  596. @islaylamb8463 it states that she read not heard there is a difference there
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  597. She would have to first be charged with jury tampering
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  598.  @Mandyriv  research 🧐
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  599.  @OlDirtyBandit  even in a preliminary hearing, it is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt the government only has to prove there is probable cause to buy defendant over to district court for trial
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  600.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  they haven’t shown any evidence that he was in on this so until they do it’s nothing but a theory from all the online sleuths
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  601.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  looks? You can’t be serious? Ted Bundy looked “innocent” to most people and look at all the murders he was held responsible for. You can’t base someone’s guilt or innocence off their looks! I’m pretty sure the state wouldn’t have brought 4 first degree murder charges against him if they didn’t have evidence to back it up. No of us know what they held back out if that PCA and trust me they held more back than people realize. I’ll wait until his preliminary hearing and then we can have this conversation.
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  602.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  I work with computer techs 😂 I’ll talk to them later today 😉
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  603.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  really? Say it isn’t so? 😂 dude do you think I don’t know this? Hell my younger cousin hacked into a damn bank years ago. I know people are f ing crazy and can do just about anything. Nobody hacked into Bryan’s computer or anything else. Bryan is responsible for what he has chosen to do and it will all come out 6/26 - 6/30 I don’t think your boy is as innocent as you want to believe he is.
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  604.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  why are you feeding into troll accounts? You honestly didn’t think the mentally challenged weren’t going to go online and make a circus 🎪 out of this horrendous crime?
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  605.  @justanotherguy469  exactly and that’s why I didn’t even bother with a response 😀
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  606.  @justanotherguy469  💯 % FACTS!
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  607. She no longer works for Suncoast, so how is she able to go in and print any of this stuff is what I want to know what ever happened to Hippa laws?
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  608.  @rebeccalasiter5429  and they should ALL lose their jobs and license to practice
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  609.  @Gianna646  she didn’t go to the bar every night. You need to learn how to hear or clean out your ears or get a hearing aid she said BARN
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  610.  @poodee9395  thank you I just fixed it I meant to type it doesn’t make you a neglectful parent
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  611.  @lynnnelson6689 probably just watched and made a video.
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  612.  @reginathompson9350  I know this however lye is more powerful than lime from what I’ve read
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  613.  @BrawnyBounce  right but lime would really just mask the smell as well.
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  614.  @StompingRabbits  99.9% of people in this thread saying that poor woman aren’t meaning financially.
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  615.  @Dmik20 you’re delusional
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  616. It was for her and 2 children it wasn’t SSDI benefits it was survivor benefits and that usually pays more
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  617. They were investigating it and she was cut off in Jan 2020
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  618. March 2nd or 3rd I believe jury selection starts
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  619.  @micheledematteis2072 so why didn’t he ask a friend to borrow their car? All he did was leave a paper trail with people close to him. Thank god for that.
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  620. And it happened 11 of 2022
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  621. What? You’ve got to be joking right? You are on sone great stuff to even think that. I want whatever your on 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  622.  @marlynnek6449  not insane at the time of the shooting, nor afterwards Ethan was diagnosed with depression, not schizophrenia, or psychosis, or anything like that
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  623.  @PatrickMcGiLL-bg2nl  exactly finally somebody with common sense
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  624.  @syon600  however most psychotic brakes are with people that have bipolar disorder
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  625.  @syon600  you really think he only got 20 minutes after he murdered for of his classmates and injured seven others. I bet you there was hours that we don’t even know about that he was evaluated by a psychiatrist.
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  626.  @syon600  I know how psychiatrist works. I see one because I had a horrific accident and I suffer from anxiety and PTSD from it so none of this is new to me or the medication that psychiatrist give you.
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  627. Well, hoping that she never gets out is long gone because she got parole and she gets out May 3
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  628.  @tessmoore3762  no it isn’t the same difference 🤷🏻‍♀️ he deserves due process and a trial if he choose PERIOD!
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  629. This 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I just told my mom this very thing.
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  630.  @CALIGIRL702  oh, I agree I’m not sticking up for him or saying this is what happens I’m just saying that I know for a fact that I put mine in airplane mode to charge it quicker and sometimes I have been known to put it in airplane mode and instead of being rude and hanging up on somebodylet them think that I just lost service or something
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  631.  @jmj3297 or Eric Bland? He’s a piece of work as well
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  632.  @melissarandazzo1515  you’re giving her way too much credit saying 90 days I give her a month and she’ll test dirty when she has to go in and see her parole officer
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  633. That would be the best way to ring in the new year
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  634.  @batangaseaaa  first of all, I never claimed that Katie didn’t play a role in this, but I’m asking you what Katie ‘s motive was to have Wendy‘s ex-husband killed?
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  635. I believe he was Christian was recording all the times that she was unhinged
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  636.  @tamarevans9025  this originally started because somebody tried to say that the husband extended family are not considered victims. The only person that is considered a victim is the person that was murdered and or injured. That is not the case.
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  637.  @tamarevans9025  look it doesn’t matter that you feel they come off as creepy or not 🤷🏻‍♀️ at the end of the day the court system and state look at them as victims and that’s just how it is.
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  638.  @susanbrooks9317 exactly and it’s BS that they aren’t held accountable for their bad decisions
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  639.  @astrialindah2773  my question is why would you drink 🥤 it if you knew someone put something in it. And 2nd how did you know exactly that it was Visine?
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  640. I guess I just don’t understand how we are only holding the parents criminal responsible for the four kids that were murdered, but we’re not holding them accountable for the seven that were injured. Oh, because that doesn’t fit into Karen‘s agenda and being the first prosecution ever to charge and convict the parents of a mass school shooting, I got it!
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  641. I mean, after all, she claims that it was foreseeable so then it would seem that the parents should be held responsible for everybody that was murdered and injured🤷🏻‍♀️ I want to hear Karen explain why the seven that were injured they’re not mentioned where is there justice like I said Karen ‘s in it all for political reasons for herself hoping to become the next governor for the state of Michigan with this big win that’s never happened ever in the United States
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  642.  @Resmith18SR  yeah well I have heard enough and I have read enough of the public court filings in this case and my opinion still stands she is innocent and there is a bunch of corruption going on in Massachusetts🤷🏻‍♀️
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  643.  @LeanneM-ku6zg  exactly! I myself was mauled by a pitbull in 2020 so I know what a dog / animal attack also looks like.
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  644. Yes, so far they are
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  645.  @ryanfraser167  and you act like she put that gun in his backpack along with the ammunition and egg mine to do this that’s not the case
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  646. Yes 🙌🏻 the jury got it right! She was an adult and knew right from wrong and should have been charged with murder and that’s my opinion.
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  647. It’s all online you can look it all up
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  648.  @beautifulwreck7296  well, Natalie’s mother just went on national television and said that he took a polygraph and he didn’t pass, so is she lying? I don’t think so.
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  649.  @beautifulwreck7296  I just watched the press conference again and Beth states that what he said in court was backed up by his polygraph
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  650. And yet here you are 🤷🏻‍♀️🤣
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  651. I don’t know it seems to be like all cases, and Idaho have strict gag orders like the secrecy out there is a real thing
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  652.  @jlob5296  you can disagree all you want at the end of the day everybody that is bashing Jennifer for the way that she parent or didn’t parent seems to think that they’re perfect and it’s usually the parents that think that they’re so perfect are the ones that their kids end up doing something horrible be careful for what you wish for people
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  653.  @Dave_ravenuoi  exactly everybody thinks that they should just plead guilty to whatever they’re charged with and except a plea deal. I can’t tell you how many times defendants except plea deals just because they’re pressured into it.
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  654. Yes they sure do! And I’m only speaking from my own personal experience from a dog mauling/attack
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  655.  @missfriscowin3606  mine was my face and mouth completely ripped me apart
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  656.  @msc8663  no the reason to be sorry I was just stating that she was found to be sane so she’ll go to prison not a psychiatric ward or hospital
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  657. Alex isn’t the one saying any of this. The jurors on this case are saying these things about her that she did these things
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  658.  @Life_Of_Tootie  exactly! I’m with you on this. People that think this is okay just because it’s Alex. I don’t care who you are EVERYONE is entitled to a fair trial.
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  659. Because he has a right to wear a civilian clothing during any and all of his hearings, including his trial, Lori, or civilian clothes every single day to her trial in July on the 31st when she sentence, she will be in her jail house, orange, or whatever color they have an Idaho
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  660. My dad and step mom never ever told me I love you growing up 🤷🏻‍♀️ so what 🙄
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  661. She implicated her attorneys, or the female attorney, and on this 37 page letter
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  662. I agree! I have a brother that is with a GF that is beyond abusive and he still keeps her around 🤷🏻‍♀️ and it’s not like she is finding the relationship.
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  663.  @colleenshea2293  just because your attorney advises you of that does not mean you have to throw away your rights because they’re not ready
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  664. They said statements not a damn confession 🤷🏻‍♀️ discrepancy’s in his statements is what they said. Statements and confessions are 2 different things in a court of law
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  665. Agree 1 million percent with your comment.
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  666.  @starshinemoonbeam 😂😂😂😂
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  667. And the fact she didn’t waive speedy trial. It wasn’t just over evidence.
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  668.  @StellaFl  what’s crazy is her arrest warrant she’s charged with first-degree murder, so make that make sense🤷🏻‍♀️
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  669.  @ACB2K ??? I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here but Tylee being rude doesn’t have anything to do with her being murdered by her own mother.
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  670. There wasn’t any appointments with cps. Kay called in a welfare check on JJ once she found out where Lori was living and that was 11/26 and then a warrant was issued on 11/27 by that time the kids were dead and they were in Hawaii. The order for her to produce her children to the Rexburg police department or human services wasn’t ordered until mid to late January and they had to find her in Hawaii and then she was finally arrested on 2/20/2020
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  671.  @LiLHarOak  you’re an idiot, because I never said no such thing, but let’s face it it’s a death penalty case doesn’t look very professional all of the attorneys coming in smiling and smirking like it’s happy hour without the cigarettes and booze
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  672.  @MoonDragon1  that’s your opinion. They are there for a quadruple homicide but yet they all walk in grinning ear to ear half of them look like they are laughing. This is it a laughing matter this is a serious matter. They can save their little, half laughs and smiling, like Lori Vallow outside of the quart room that’s my opinion.
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  673.  @bbginc694  listen I’m talking in general not just this case but a lot of people like to assume because somebody has a glass with liquid in it that it contains alcohol. If she would never admitted to drinking everybody still would have assumed that she was drinking and or intoxicated is my point.
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  674.  @kayakingirl7252  pretty easy, because not all people that get a buzz get totally inebriated or three sheets to the wind
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  675.  @wemao  THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  676. Exactly! From the very beginning I knew she would blame her brother. And now that he’s dead and can’t speak from the grave she’s going full blast with it
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  677. Jury selection but they consider it day 1 as 10/23 hope that makes sense
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  678.  @kathleendudek2955  and the same goes for the defense and as far as I’m concerned, Marc is an arrogant prick
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  679. Adams defense attorney is terrible. How did she even pass the bar?
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  680.  @matthewfors114  I have watched
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  681.  @julesthecat.  I hope so and GUILTY on all charges. I mean he plead guilty to abuse of a corpse and falsifying evidence
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  682.  @dejanrakic77  I know exactly who Stacy was to Melanie
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  683. @ap-mf8ch you are an idiot, because that was not meant as a compliment
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  684.  @benzocorbynista3321 Luis took a plea deal so there was no trial for him. 3 trials in this case so far and as of 11/13/23 Donna has been arrested and awaiting trial.
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  685. Eric Bland just loves to insert himself in all things MURDAUGH 🤷🏻‍♀️ and that’s just the damn truth!
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  686.  @Naturalworldlives  I’m watching from the sidelines not chasing for clients to pad my pockets BIG DIFFERENCE 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  687. I agree! Eric Bland inserts himself in literally everything that involves Alex and that’s just the truth!
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  688. And you’re an idiot because after she threw the chemical on him, she threw water on him, which activated the chemical, so you saying if he wasn’t drunk, he would’ve had the wherewithal to rinse it off that’s not how it works
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  689.  @MikeRainey they do until the government wants to tell parents how to raise their children
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  690.  @eddenoy321  because at the end of the day, the school realized that he should have sent him home or checked his backpack. He was fired for doing a shitty job, so yeah, so what huh?
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  691.  @eileenruane1464  same!
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  692. AND it’s trial but trails 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  693.  @iveliserojas612  where did I ever say that Dan wasn’t a good person? I have never said anything negative about him, however, Wendi on the other hand I have a lot to say negatively about her.
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  694.  @debbiemartin2026  I only commented about someone saying he got fired from the university of Miami and I asked for their source, because Wendi testified that he never got a job at the University of Miami. so how does that turn into me saying anything negative about Dan ?
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  695.  @Treestand22  I agree with your mini novel aka comment.
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  696.  @lindafinch1520  most judges are elected
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  697. I don’t think they are dragging this case out. This case started in 2019 so there was a lot of investigation that needed to be done and I think they have done a rather fast job considering all that had to be done to get it to trial. And the state rested their case yesterday morning.
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  698.  @papabear2515  I’m very well aware of why the death penalty was taken off the table for Lori. I was referring to Lori trying to use reverse psychology when she made her statement on the date of her sentencing kind of like a Jodi Arias. she said she wanted death, and then she said her statement, and then decided she wanted life in prison.
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  699. It was more of a storage closet because it had no window or ventilation
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  700. Oh, I’m sure they already have a warrant and are having that thing analyzed and I cannot wait to hear what they found. I bet you it is going to be a treasure trove
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  701. She said that she didn’t when she testified
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  702. @@extrememinimalist5279just wondering how many cases / trials you personally have watched and or seen with DIRECT EVIDENCE? I highly doubt most or the majority of criminals / cases are convicted on direct evidence. It maybe circumstantial evidence but when it’s a voluminous amount than it’s more likely than not the person committed the crimes of which they were arrested and that’s just the truth. Not all cases but the majority of them.
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  703.  @Meriswhitacre what she has been convicted of she could be sentenced up to life in prison
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  704.  @WW-hn5yb did you mean UNETHICAL 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  705.  @steelcom5976  why wouldn’t she sense all eyes are on her and her family for the murder of Dan Markel is the bigger question.🤷🏻‍♀️ and the fact that she has an attorney herself so we all know that he read it which turn we know that she read it or she knows what it said she just trying to play dumb
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  706.  @jamesplymire5342  that is the furthest thing from the truth and the reason I say that they shouldn’t accept a plea deal is because too many defendants, accepts a plea deal when they have a constitutional right to have a trial with a jury of their peers
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  707.  @jamesplymire5342  obviously, you don’t understand due process, because every defendant has the right to take their case through a trial too many times people are pressured into taking plea deals when they really truly shouldn’t have and by the way the prosecution in this case did not offer a plea deal
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  708.  @ThriveCollective1188 well if he’s innocent then his attorney’s will get the chance to cross all witnesses at trial. The burden is on the state to prove he’s guilty and that being said even if he had a preliminary hearing next month the state doesn’t have to put on their entire case and they only have to put on enough to show the magistrate there is enough evidence to have him bound over to district court.
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  709. CPS are just legal criminals and that’s just my opinion
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  710. Get help seriously a lot of us have played with Ouija board way back in our day and we’re fine. You’re just led to believe about Satan and all that other stuff that’s on you.
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  711.  @suzieqou8129 she was 18 not 6 🤷🏻‍♀️ she was legally an adult
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  712. Mr.Gordon owes a few people an apology for the way he spoke to and about them IMO
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  713. @@nancyg8671 that’s where you’re wrong because there’s a lot more people that are Wendi fans that believe that she had nothing to do with it
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  714. @@nancyg8671 you must not be in the live chats then lol
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  715.  @Psyche721  well that should be really interesting because people with a mental defect or mental illness. Don’t plan for months about murdering their children. Good luck to him on that one though.
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  716.  @colleen0229 that matches in the octillion to him 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  717.  @Jendromeda  same
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  718. @@49ersfan834he’s been captured
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  719. Yeah, too bad Michigan doesn’t have the death penalty cause I wish it did
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  720.  @lizdahl847  I’ve always wondered why they have never asked her what she did with that $300,000 that she took out of her joint account before she left
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  721.  @steelcom5976  because I know plenty of women that are victims of DV for starters. Wendi didn’t exhibit any signs of being abused by Danny and she stated that. When Georgia questioned her about it she didn’t hesitate with her answer. When women are abused by their partners/ husbands that are very often withdrawn and don’t answer in the same manner as Wendi did.
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  722.  @steelcom5976  AND Nevermind the fact there is no proof (police reports) of any physical abuse to Wendi at the hands of her husband / ex husband. Nothing is even in her divorce papers stating such.
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  723.  @steelcom5976  once again, it’s not a vibe you can tell when somebody is lying, and when somebody is being truthful, Wendi is not the most truthful person I’ve ever seen testify
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  724.  @steelcom5976  and then I changed it from vibe to exhibit signs, and that’s what I should use to begin with because she doesn’t exhibit any signs of a woman that was or had ever been physically abused by Danny there I cleared up the air on that one
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  725.  @steelcom5976  dude you’re an idiot. There’s plenty of people that have testified and have given interviews that Danny was not violent so it’s not just based on what Wendi said on the stand.
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  726.  @steelcom5976  For starters Wendi had to be subpoenaed in order to testify because refused to show up to court and hired her attorney.
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  727.  @sonyso1235  hey I never said she should did I? Take it up either way the F-ED up state government in NH.
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  728.  @i.a.2247  well since Georgia has been successful in three convictions and a plea deal and an indictment against Donna don’t you think that if she had what she needed to get a warrant and an indictment on Wendy she would’ve already done that
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  729.  @amatteo8795  they are part of the problem, and from what I see they enable him to be the criminal that he is
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  730.  @embeth446  are you kidding me? You do realize we leave our dna 🧬 everywhere we go / are daily 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  731.  @embeth446  I’m sorry that comment was meant for some person that was in her with just user with a bunch of numbers. He tried saying yeah like we shed out dna everyday all over
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  732.  @sallyl5071  seen her having dinner or saw her having dinner mean the same thing ain’t is not the same as didn’t so you can take your being the grammar police and shove it right where the sun don’t shine
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  733.  @Marina_-_-  I know that’s not what you meant. I put that so the rest of the trolls that have made it clear that obviously she deserved it because she was having “an affair”. I have done some deep diving into Anna and Brain. Brain was awaiting trial and going to federal prison for his crimes.
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  734. And her trial is scheduled for April 4th 2024 😂🤣 4 days after captain cupcake’s trial starts
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  735.  @alikat1053  you all are a bunch of clowns, because what Aiden did is not going affect them being able to sit a jury on this case.
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  736. Here’s the thing she knew right from wrong. She is not mentally insane, and everybody that wants to put her somewhere else. Other than prison! Stop condoning her behavior she needs to be held accountable and responsible for her actions.
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  737.  @nowirehangers2815 really? Maybe go back through the many of threads i commented on stating the state would take this to a grand jury 🤷🏻‍♀️ and you can also go deep throat a cactus 🌵 😉
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  738. Ted Rowland
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  739.  @raa98raa  this case right here proves that check-in’s are necessary when children are adopted
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  740. Hold up she was 18 and where is the parent Bible that says that parents have to do all the cleaning last time I checked that’s why we teach our children things as they’re growing up. Give me a freaking break on that it’s a parents job to do the cleaning she was 18.
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  741. You need to go google what the chemical was that she threw on him because not only did she just throw that at him. She also threw water on him which activates it and that’s why he got severe severe chemical burns that ended up with Infection through his body and had to have his legs amputated this 18-year-old punk knew what she was doing.
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  742. Is he being sentenced the same day as his mom did I hear that correctly?
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  743. He died of an embolism and they did a toxicology and autopsy and there was no foul play in his death.
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  744.  @Bunnybella765  absolutely
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  745. Maybe it was a cover up with BTK for all those decades to because he lived his life freely until he was arrested in 2005 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  746. If that minor should hurt another person with that obtained firearm, a person could be guilty of a felony and be punished with up to five years of jail time, an up to $5,000 fine, or both; that would jump to a potential 15 year jail sentence, up to $7,500 in fines, or both, should that minor kill another person with the obtained firearm. This would not apply to instances of ranching or farming, target practices, hunting or instruction in the safe use of a firearm. It would also not apply should an employed minor need to possess a firearm.
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  747. And that’s why Shannon wanted this in and opened the door because she wanted to prove that law-enforcement threatened this witness
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  748.  @jlockwood65  last time I checked at 18 you’re a whole ass legal adults stop saying she was a child people like you they give these little criminals a free pass that makes them be more criminal
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  749. Oh I do! He literally planned it all out in his journal. His entire journal should have been admitted into evidence not just cherry 🍒 picked by the government
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  750. So is Ann Taylor
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  751. That’s not how schizophrenia works. Why don’t you do your research before you try throwing Shade
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  752. You weren't mad... that they knew the whole time?" On a fiery re-direct by Prosecutor Kathryn Myers, Wendi Adelson said she "found out yesterday" about the alleged extortion claims by her brother Charlie Adelson's defense. There is a chance Wendi could also be charged with conspiracy in the murder of her ex-husband Dan Markel. Your description is wrong because it’s Georgia Kapellmann as a prosecuting attorney not Catherine Myers
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  753. Yes, he’s got a public pretender. Oh, I mean public defender.😂
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  754.  @SmokeySky-ChloeBell  at the end of the day you can say whatever you want and slice and dice it and mix it up however, you want she was still a legal adult in the eyes of the law so get out of here with your bullshit
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  755.  @ohioh111b111y  no it was a shooting at his school
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  756. And I have to come back and comment this is father doesn’t know anything about his personal life that says more about you than it does your son number one number two you sound like Chris Watts’s mom, Cindy
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  757.  @ٴٴٴٴ-777  because it’s been stated they both had extra marital affairs
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  758. Having an extra marital affair does not constitute gross negligence, and anybody that seems to think so is an idiot
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  759. Well, first of all, you’re not found innocent, you’re found not guilty, and once a jury finds you not guilty of the crime of murder, you cannot be retried again. She could go in the middle of Timesquare, and admit that she killed Danny and they couldn’t retry her that’s a hypothetical if Wendi was ever charged, and found not guilty .
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  760. And just because you file an appeal doesn’t mean you’re going to get a new trial the majority of people that are convicted of murder plus many other crimes always file an appeal just to buy themselves sometime hoping for a new trial.
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  761.  @ZNOM9  correct!
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  762.  @michaelcalland801  you are correct however, I know I’ve seen trials where people are guilty as sin AND the evidence proved it and they still appealed just because that’s what’s always done 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  763. I just like how his dad literally walked right to the trail and found Brian’s things 🤷🏻‍♀️ watch the way he is walking. The FBI and LE look awful right now and they should probably hire the Laundrie’s🤣 what a damn joke and circus 🤡
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  764. I’m just gonna say this screw this dude in them scheduling a preliminary hearing as soon as they did! number two it is going to be a difficult case not really because he confessed to it but that’s neither here nor there he can waive his right to a speedy trial, he doesn’t have to go to trial within six months after his preliminary hearing. Once he is bound over to district court for trial then he can prolong it from there, but if had my way the mother of those three boys should be able to take this POS behind the courthouse and execute him how many bullets he put in those babies and the mother that’s what he gets stop giving him an excuse he plan this! mental health illness whatever blah blah, blah whatever
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  765.  @normacolon9618  so you believe the two surviving roommates found the sheath and placed it under Madison Morgan’s dead body🤷🏻‍♀️
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  766. It’s a constitutional right he has the right to be present to face his accusers or not be
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  767.  @Tsanamii  exactly
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  768.  @mandyb7036  they never offered him a plea deal so a jury trial was the only way he could go. And as much as we hate it he does constitutional rights to be there or not to be there 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  769. Then what was the motive? I’m just looking into this case so I’m not up to speed.
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  770. Yes, Ohio has an insanity defense. However, only 1% of insanity defenses work, so probably not gonna work in his favor because he admitted to planning it so therefore him having a mental defect is thrown out the window.IMO
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  771.  @udhehfhehcuw9169  maybe you shouldn’t come and comment on till you know exactly what happened. Or you watched the entire trial and listened to witnesses but no, you got to come at me sideways. Acting like you know something about this case that I didn’t already know or see, or hear during the entire trial.
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  772. I believe January 2024
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  773. If you looked at the PCA there is a complete page that’s redacted
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  774.  @GibboFrank  I’m only concerned about any of the victims DNA 🧬 BLOOD, hair or anything else that ties back to them in his home or car. And I’m sick of the Dylan nonsense. Anyone can say anything right now for clout.
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  775. She didn’t open the door to “see him” maybe she opened the door to see if it was all over. Listen you not I know what all is in that redacted part of the PCA so why don’t you wait to see what other things come out.
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  776.  Someonegreat09  what part of me saying she probably heard more than what the PCA is telling us?
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  777.  Someonegreat09  and that’s fine however victim shaming isn’t a good look. I can’t wait for everything to come out in court and when it doesn’t match y’all’s theories you might feel like a real POS
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  778.  @ClaudiaGutierrez-um7ub  have you ever seen or heard anything horrific in your life? I have and the trauma and ptsd is a real thing and I hope you never experience it.
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  779. Oh, they’re allowed to do video visits with their tablets
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  780. Because legally, that’s what they have to say because he has not been convicted in a court of law
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  781. Foreseeability asks how likely it was that a person could have anticipated the potential or actual results of their actions.
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  782.  @scientistatwork4667  of course she’s going to say what the defense wants her to say so they can try to make people believe she is mentally insane being mentally insane means she did not know the difference between right and wrong and she did and mentally insane defense is usually only successful in about 1% of cases
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  783. Well, you know the saying is there’s an ass for every seat 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  784.  @mjznh  oh, trust me I completely agree I was just stating that here in America only this nonsense would go on in the judicial system
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  785. In Idaho everyone is saying when children are involved they can
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  786. Yes as a parent you protect your children however in this case his parents enabled their son that is a murderer. Let one of my children come home at any age without their other half I personally would do the right thing and call the authorities
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  787.  @joeb-5150  I was being sarcastic on what she said while she was on the stand of course not I don’t believe a damn thing she says
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  788.  @joeb-5150  people seem to think that just because these children were three and four, when their father was killed that they’re not going through anything now that they’re older and find out that their uncle is charged with their dad’s murder some of these mental midgets make my brain hurt
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  789.  @joeb-5150  I can’t even wrap my head around how Benjamin and Lincoln are feeling or will feel when all this truth comes out and they find out the whole thing is just heartbreaking to me and that one family can do so much damage
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  790.  @janicescott6569  I’m pretty sure that’s why Wendy wanted to move the south Florida so she could go do her thing and have a built-in babysitter and no parental responsibilities
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  791. Trust the process it’s coming. The government has the highest burden to prove beyond reasonable doubt. They are holding their cards close to the vest as they should. They get one shot at trying Dirty Laundrie and they are crossing all their T’s and dotting all their I’s to insure they have the strongest case and evidence to insure a guilty verdict. This isn’t an hour episode of csi this is mountains of evidence and intelligence that needs to be gone over with a fine tooth comb. I’m waiting for the hammer to be dropped and it’s coming. The feds will never ever tip their hand in cases and surely not before he is apprehended
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  792. Because obviously loose lips sink ships and he had diarrhea of the mouth once he was in the police car actually on his way to the police car and the cops had to tell him that he has a right to remain silent into EFFIN use it and apparently he chose not to remain silent
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  793.  @MyMomo17  the left, is destroying this country🤷🏻‍♀️those are facts not feelings.
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  794.  @jeanettebooker2500  nope!! it’s part of the constitution. If she wants to be there to face her accusers, she can be as well as this she doesn’t want to be there. They can’t force her to be there except for at sentencing.
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  795.  @estrella5935  you obviously don’t understand what shock does to a person when something traumatic happens or they see something traumatic. Maybe you should go educate yourself because you sound really stupid right now.
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  796.  @michellesayers5346  and you have no idea of the exact times that they messaged anybody so until we hear that in court I don’t care what any of you people say I want to hear it in the trial
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  797.  @michellesayers5346  hey, that would be called evidence and last time I checked evidence hasn’t came out except for the little bit that we know of and that’s not one of them there cupcake
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  798. Nothing but a witch hunt!
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  799. Stranger things have happened 🤷🏻‍♀️ my daughter threw a steak knife at her brother and hit him in the back of his foot and it was just a reaction to him throwing a june bug on her back while she was checking the steaks on the grill. And I’m not giving her a pass or sticking up for her. I’m just speaking from what I witnessed with my own eyes.
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  800. Yes they are! My brother deals with this daily from his girlfriend
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  801.  @geraldine1437  my entire family all say he will end up being killed by her. He stays with her for whatever reason and seems to like the abuse 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  802. He along with Prior are personal injury lawyers not criminal and I think they are both doing it for publicity
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  803. @@49ersfan834a week or two
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  804. I would rather swallow staples and chew on glass 🤷🏻‍♀️ Chad is gross 🤮 and fraud and nothing about him is attractive.
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  805.  @acc4465  no that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about somebody that has literally been diagnosed by a medical doctor whether it’s a psychiatrist or psychologist that have done test that this person does supper from schizophrenia, bipolar one and bipolar 2 antisocial disorder things of those nature
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  806.  @laurettahuffman1363  because it was asked of her what he was like when she was with him
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  807.  @eleanoraquitaine2966 sounds like you have more evidence than the detectives that investigated this. Can you post your source? I want to see it.
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  808.  @eleanoraquitaine2966  well that’s funny because Brandon dropped off their youngest child to Melani that morning so you really think she was with Alex and brought her child with to shoot at Brandon? I personally think Lori was with him. You can you have thoughts or opinions and I can have mine 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  809.  @eleanoraquitaine2966  I have googled and I have researched this entire case from the very beginning and all parties involved and there is nothing that states that for a fact Melanie was seen in that jeep with Alex that day
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  810.  @eleanoraquitaine2966  I didn’t insult you but your job is totally different than a detectives job is. But you keep thinking they are two of the same.
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  811.  @MrShigura  once again, you’re an idiot, and a troll because she did not kill him she was dating him
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  812.  @MrShigura  just just because my opinion on this case differs from yours does not mean that I am not honest because trust me, I’m brutally honest and therefore, when I say you are a mental midget, I mean that with my whole chest
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  813. Y’all are missing it 🤷🏻‍♀️obviously she knew that she had to throw water on him after she doused him with lye meaning she knew she how to activate it. She had to have looked it up googled it or whatever to know to add water to it. why didn’t they search her phone for any Google searches is what I want to know 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  814. The only thing I can say when it comes to Lori is there’s an A$$ for every seat 🤷🏻‍♀️ that is all 😂
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  815. Absolutely
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  816.  @RcPlayer-tt2vw  THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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  817.  @Saraseyes611  no I’m just not a criminal and have no reason to be a nervous Nellie 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  818.  @bonniehowell9206  did you not read where I said personally? I was talking about myself not the entire world
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  819. Oh, but they can it’s the wonderful thing called a subpoena and when that happens, you have to show up in court and if he takes the fifth that just proves to the jury all they need to know
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  820. Everyone leaves their DNA 🧬 everywhere daily however those kids should have any of their DNA in or around anywhere he is or in his apartment
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  821.  @soflodoug  and your entitled to have your opinion and think he’s not guilty. I never said he was guilty as sin. However what they currently have is pointing towards him. They have way more than any of us know about.
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  822. He was charged as an adult, because of the crimes he committed. And rightfully so however, his parents parents shouldn’t be tried and convicted for his crimes that they didn’t know he planned on committing.
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  823.  @jenhodge9018 he was murdered on 7/18/14 and his service was 7/20/14 and she left for south Florida on 7/21/14
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  824.  @MrJuvefrank  you should probably place blame on the government as far as the O.J. Simpson case goes because the government are the ones that wanted him to try that glove on without having him try it on outside of the presence of the jury that’s on them 🤷🏻‍♀️ they lost that conviction due to their own stupidity
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  825. No!
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  826. 43:28
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  827. And what about the men that decide to execute their children like Chad Dorman in Ohio?
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  828. Because they can, and they should be proud of all the hard work for the last 14 days that’s why
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  829.  @megmeyer7563  and that’s your opinion. Most of us have no issue with the picture🤷🏻‍♀️
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  830. Has it been stated during this trial, when the last dose of ketamine was given to Maya prior to her being admitted into John Hopkins, all children’s Hospital?
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  831. No, I want to know the actual last time a ketamine treatment was given to her by her doctor before going into all children’s Hospital
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  832. I just commented this before seeing your comment.
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  833.  @rikkirobinson4429  he might have only gotten that much however he’s still being charged with the $250,000
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  834.  @debidriscoll8108  they could find an attorney that’s willing to go after the state agencies. Sally Smith did settle out if court for 2.5 million dollars
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  835.  @meggie11102 you must be a anti gun person 🤷🏻‍♀️ for you to say such a ignorant comment
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  836.  @meggie11102 a lot of people including teens go hunting here in Michigan
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  837.  @pipermccool  Regardless, even if she took this to trial and put those kids through more trauma than they’ve already been through, she still for each charge would only get between one up to 15 years
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  838. I’m just wondering what looks have to do with this? Yes she is beautiful but maybe she wasn’t shallow or maybe she liked being the better looking one in the relationship.
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  839.  @MrShigura  you’re an idiot and a troll at that
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  840.  @MrShigura  you’re a candy ass crybaby
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  841. Even if he didn’t retire, judges, and the state have this little thing called immunity and they can’t be touched. I think it’s complete garbage, bullshit that they can make these decisions and get away with it because of his poor decisions a child ended up dead he should be held accountable.
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  842. Have you ever thought that maybe Wendi had her friend call and leave that message? And then Wendi just listen to it once she got to the police station to make it seem like that’s how she found out
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  843. Probably should take that up with the Supreme Court of the United States
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  844. Will be a 4th trial if Donna doesn’t take a plea. Donna is the 5th person charged in Dan’s murder. So far there had been 3 trials and 1 was a retrial and 1 (Luis) took a plea deal.
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  845.  @hollynonya6991 I completely agree Holly!
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  846.  @RebeccaAnderson-nt5yj  I agree!
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  847. Her and her COW 🐮 EYES they aren’t doe eyes like some people call them. I’m more than SICK 🤢 of seeing her FAKE A$$
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  848. And let’s not forget this allows for issues on appeal.
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  849. She can’t go back and say that she told Jeffrey that because she said on understand and three files that she never said that thing that would be called perjury
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  850.  @crede9427 exactly! How in TF is that overlooked 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  851. Karen McDonald is doing all this for political reasons. She doesn’t care about victims she only cares about a WIN. She wants to be the AG or governor of Michigan PERIOD!
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  852. If you feel that way, you can scroll and not watch, but yet here you are🤷🏻‍♀️🤣😂
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  853.  @Bex-rg8pj  how am I a troll? Just because I stated the obvious if you don’t like her and you think she’s drama, then go click on a different news channel and not hers.
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  854. Someone needs to explain to me how a parent can treat their child like this and beat on them and that child still wants to either have a relationship with that parent or go live with that parent I have so many questions I need answers people. I’m dealing with this right now with my granddaughter, whose father abused her and he gave her to me and I had her for eight months and he came at the end of September to get her and she willingly went with him. This doesn’t make sense to me why are these children that are horrifically, abused by their own parents and still willing to put themselves back in that situation
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  855.  @ninamcgrath3053  exactly that’s my whole point the gun was not left in the car and then if you go listen to the Miller hearing, I can’t remember what part but he had written in his journal that he had hid some of the ammunition from that day, and saved it for the day of the shooting
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  856. Nope he sure didn’t
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  857. Actually, what shame is the government is the one that made a deal with the devil and that’s why she got a sweetheart deal it was only charged with perjury
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  858.  @jaxjax3842 exactly! Chad Doerman executed all three of his sons ages 3,4 & 7 in ohio
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  859. Because normal dogs bite and shake their head and come back again. These dogs are trained to bite to subdue somebody and hold them not to keep attacking.
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  860. Exactly! They ALL are nothing but legalized criminals
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  861.  @rhondadavis1483  the majority of them are POS
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  862.  @patriciagallace5065  obviously none of them have been on the side that Jennifer sits on currently
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  863.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  FLINT, MI — After serving 25 years behind bars, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has granted Michael Thompson's request for clemency. Thompson, 69, is serving a 42- to 62-year sentence after he was convicted of selling three pounds of marijuana to an undercover informant in December 1994. On Tuesday,
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  864.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  Thompson, 71, is a Flint, Michigan Native and criminal justice reform activist. He served a 25 year life sentence for cannabis offenses and was released in January 2021. Today, he works alongside nonprofits, Last Prisoner Project and The Michael Thompson Clemency project to help prison reform.
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  865. This was his original sentence MICHAEL THOMPSON IS serving a 40- to 60-year sentence in Muskegon Correctional Facility in Michigan. He’s already spent a quarter of a century in prison. His father, mother, and his only son have died in the time he’s been behind bars. His mom’s final wish — which she told his nephew, Sheldon Neeley — was that Thompson wouldn’t die in prison. He’s 68. He felt ashamed at his mother’s funeral because he had to wear handcuffs.
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  866. How many prisoners are serving life sentences for pot? At least 69, based on data collected by the American Civil Liberties Union and other organizations. But that figure probably is low, particularly if you count older inmates serving lengthy sentences who will likely die in prison. Federal judges have sentenced 54 people to life without parole for marijuana crimes since 1996, according to the Clemency Report. Solid numbers are hard to find. “Incarceration data for cannabis-only-related offenses is the holy grail of criminal-justice data for cannabis law reformers,” says Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, who has filed dozens of requests for this information. “All the time it seems like I learn of another one that I’d never heard of before,” says Cheri Sicard, vice president of the CAN-DO Foundation, an advocacy group for nonviolent drug offenders.
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  867.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  Executing search warrants at homes in Flint and Grand Blanc after he was arrested, police found more than a dozen guns which led to felony firearm charges as he was a convicted felon. Michigan Senate Minority Leader Jim Ananich, D-Flint, called the Whitmer’s decisions tremendous news for Thompson, his friends and family. “It’s hard to stomach that a man who was booked on drug charges in the nineties could still be incarcerated in 2020, by a state that had since legalized the use of recreational marijuana,” Ananich said. “He is now an elderly man and has grandchildren he’d like to spend time with. I, along with thousands of people who were shocked by Mr. Thompson’s absurdly long sentence, have petitioned the governor’s office on his behalf and we applaud her for doing the right thing by granting him clemency.” his wife even testified that those were her guns however, because he had been convicted before for drug charges that’s why the firearm charges came to be not because he had guns in his possession when he sold that 3 pounds of marijuana
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  868.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  Thompson was sent to prison to serve a 42- to 62-year sentence after he was convicted in 1996 of selling three pounds of marijuana to an undercover informant in December 1994. That was his original sentence. The only reason he got it out after 25 years was because he got clemency. If that wouldn’t have happened he would still be there my point is he was still sentenced to that much for 3 pounds of marijuana.
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  869.  @Littleangel_-jp4xb  why don’t you go look up all the people that have been sentenced to 40+ years for marijuana that didn’t include any violence, then come back and talk to me and I’m not talking about like this case where he eventually got clemency I’m talking what they’re actual sentence was before they ever got clemency because people that sold marijuana were given hefty hefty sentences back in the day more than people for murder
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  870. My granddaughters father says the same thing about her. He didn’t lock her in a room however he would take her to a structure on his property and beat her with a belt so no one could see him beating her and no one could hear her screaming
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  871. And Donna Adelson has been arrested
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  872. And according to four of the jurors the clerk of court is just as corrupt as them
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  873.  @jayneroberson-blume804  did I say that? No I didn’t!
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  874.  @jayneroberson-blume804  oh so just because Alex lied the 4 jurors are lying 🤷🏻‍♀️ okay got it 😂🤣
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  875.  @jayneroberson-blume804  yeah I’m sure they are willing to lie in a sworn statement just because
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  876.  @jayneroberson-blume804  if these allegations are true it’s called doing the right thing. Y’all are wild 🤣 if it was someone you knew personally y’all would be power pissed and screaming for justice and a new trial but because it’s Alex and he’s a liar these jurors must be just making up these allegations.
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  877.  @jayneroberson-blume804  and that’s why AM’s defense team is digging into these allegations as they should.
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  878.  @jayneroberson-blume804  well if you know them I don’t think it’s a good look for you to insinuate they are LIARS 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  879.  @jayneroberson-blume804  okay 🙄
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  880. Last time I looked upped co-defendants I never ever have seen or heard of them ever being allowed to communicate so why would the judge allow this?
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  881.  @mikejohnson9960  it has nothing to do with privacy, because there are tons of cell phone records that are retrieved and used as EVIDENCE in trials
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  882.  @k.h.walker2378 I get everything you’re saying but to the majority of the world it looks like the woman gets away with no death penalty but the man still has it on the table 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m one of those people 😀
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  883.  @mortalclown3812  I don’t need to read up 😃 I have followed this case from the very very beginning. My comment was in regards to the original comment that you’re commenting on.
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  884. That’s not how it works I’m the United States of America. Just because we’ve seen and heard things that Lori more likely than not committed these murders she still deserves her day in court. Not only for her constitutional rights but us as Americans to see justice be done the right way.
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  885.  @debbie-lyn5740  I want it done the right way so no mistrial or hung jury and no chance of any appeal being granted. That’s all I’m saying
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  886. Just like Lori Vallow
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  887.  @jilliansherrard2152  oh I agree 100%
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  888. I guarantee you she has less time than her POS husband. This judge is too soft.
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  889.  @krazyk8592 in Idaho you can not be found not guilty by reason of insanity. Her defense team said they were not bringing her mental health (😂) into the trial as her defense
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  890.  @krazyk8592  she could use mental illness in her defense she just couldn’t be found not guilty be reason of insanity. You said permit. Most people don’t know what the difference is. There are only four states in which the insanity defense isn’t allowed. Montana, utah, Idaho and Nevada
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  891. There is a difference using mental illness as a defense than not guilty but reason of insanity. I hope that clears up my comments.
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  892. @everyisnaadisfabricated3784 I personally doubt he’s going to even get a new trial. And if he does then yes it will be overturned and a new trial will be in order however that’s a BIG IF
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  893. Because there’s a special thing called government immunity, and that’s what that POS judge falls under
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  894.  @gorkyd7912  no, he is not, and he has government immunity so nobody can ever go out for him which I think is crappy because there are a lot of crappy judges out there they make crappy decisions just like he did
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  895. I find it hard to believe that the state doesn’t have more than a ton of voluminous amounts of evidence
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  896.  @tekarock no it just means Alex will get a new trial.
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  897.  @awesomesmasher999ftw4 Chad received $430,000 from 2 life insurance policies on Tammy
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  898. Well I have a key fob and I myself have left it in my car and hit the lock button and it didn’t lock the doors 🤷🏻‍♀️ I call BS that it was locked n the car.
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  899. 😭😭😭😭
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  900.  @kitty_cato I heard when children are involved being married means nothing.
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  901. But they were subpoenaed by the state to testify however,they said that they would plead the fifth: That’s why they didn’t show up.
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  902.  @azrobbins01  if the grand jury was beyond a reasonable doubt, then we wouldn’t have trials because they’ve already proven their burden
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  903. Yes but they haven’t released what ate on those receipts
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  904.  @sbrooke210  the child that was abused, said that his adoptive parents made a mistake, and everybody should just forgive them and move on
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  905.  @sbrooke210  no I’m not I watch the entire video and at the tail end they played that child’s testimony so I did hear that in this video clip
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  906.  @Dmik20 ummm NO ADAM DID THIS
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  907. Well, it’s legal in Michigan for us parents to allow our children to shoot guns in our present and take them to the shooting range and take them hunting get over it what they did by taking him to the shooting range and going with him is legal here you may not like it, and other people may not like it, but it was legal
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  908.  @shonabeggs4640  there has not been anything reported on if they were separated if either one of them filed for divorce if there had been talks of a divorce so I can’t say they were or were not.
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  909. She is alone and away from other inmates
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  910.  @m_christine1070  he isn’t pro Wendy either. He’s just trying to explain to you guys that if Georgia thought for one minute she had what she needed to get an indictment and secure a conviction she would’ve already done it.
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  911. To put his wife through the hellish nightmare, over and over again knowing she’s going to have to testify to what happened
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  912.  @EC-dz3fb  sorry I was using talk to text and it totally messed up what I was saying 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  913.  @EC-dz3fb  it was wholeheartedly believe 😂
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  914. Really would you like to share your reasonings? Because NOBODY deserves to be murdered!
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  915. Her husband lived at his parents after his stroke and wasn’t living there and his biological father lives in Oklahoma
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  916.  @HuckFinn-s5x  you’re welcome ☺️
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  917.  @elizabethchase6528  who is dead her husband lives with his parents after he had a stroke, and his biological father lived in Oklahoma. Where did you hear his father is dead?
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  918.  @tammieastman9997  not really, because the judge has to follow the law in which she was convicted of. I personally think she deserves a long, long stent in prison for killing somebody and injuring somebody really bad while she was under the influence of alcohol but that’s just my opinion.
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  919. Karen McDonald is a C$&T and that’s putting it mildly 🤷🏻‍♀️ I hate that woman and what she stands for
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  920. You are correct however, the evidence that they have proves more likely than not. She was just as involved as the other four people that have been charged with Dan ‘s murder.
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  921.  @_fiddler4594 thank you 🙌🏻 I wish more people would understand what truly happened here.
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  922.  @tashastakeonlife4733  that very well could be, but they don’t consider Seroquel a benzo
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  923. I guess and the great state of Idaho, that if children are involved that husband and wife privilege doesn’t stand
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  924.  @mollyn.1635  that’s where you’re wrong because the state can subpoena him and he’ll have to show up. He might be the best for every question but he still have to show up.
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  925.  @waterkingdavid  basically the state is trying to impeach her based of the 2 previous trials she testified in and what she said during her police interrogation. She has LIED 🤥 already in this trial based off her other testimony.
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  926. Same her with one of my brothers and he’s not married to her either
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  927. Exactly. The only thing that they have proven is that Jennifer isn’t a faithful wife and she spent approximately 12 hours a week doing a hobby for herself 🤷🏻‍♀️🙄 I guess being a parent in today society means you aren’t allowed that but society standards
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  928.  @RcPlayer-tt2vw  oh, I’m sure they will but I’m also sure that the DA and or parents will go after the school district after this is all said and done
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  929.  @michaelsterling6163 THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  930.  @einienj3281  don’t forget they were doing meth or heroin, and she shot up trazodone, so they were on illicit drugs, while all this was going on
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  931. I personally don’t think she has mental illness she’s just a narcissistic children killer PERIOD!
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  932.  @LetItB-1 usually in Indiana there are both in the courthouse
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  933. We have good reason to appeal because our hospital and the doctors and nurses are POS and we don’t want nobody knowing how bad we really are
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  934. Luis took the picture and posted it on Instagram not Sigfredo
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  935.  @amyc9155  her trial is in mid March
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  936.  @amyc9155  Jan 29th of 22 so buy the time it goes to trial it will be just over 2 years ago
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  937.  @Oz83 it should have been at the same time Lori’s was in my opinion.
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  938. I wonder if he thinks that Becky‘s got integrity about her now 😂
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  939. Who is someone 🤷🏻‍♀️ because the last time I checked Alex has zero money and his attorneys were denied getting paid, so does he have a mouse in his pocket?
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  940.  @laurenoliviariley4700  from the sounds of it you have since you believe he’s got all this money to be paying everyone off including the jurors 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  941.  @InLieuTube  if you go back and watch any of the hearing since this case started, that is her tone towards the defense since the beginning of this case.
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  942.  @luckewoman0348  yeah that’s what they claim😂😂😂 they like to play effing games is all🤷🏻‍♀️
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  943.  @luckewoman0348  like seriously 😳 just turn over all the discovery already 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  944. I’m sure she promised her brother money from the insurance money but she had no idea her name was no longer on it.
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  945. And some doctors are glorified idiots with a degree 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  946. That’s where you’re wrong if she was 18 which means she’s legally an adult and can vote
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  947. She didn’t have chemical burns on her hands because she didn’t put water on her hands that activates it that causes the chemical burns so you along with her Attorney are both dumb
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  948.  @villebooks  experts also argue that the government doesn’t have a case to bring a murder charge because there isn’t a body so your comment doesn’t hold any weight 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  949.  @alexanderalexander6134  oh, there are plenty prosecuting attorneys that have brought charges without a body and got plenty of convictions. However, the comment up above was stating that experts claim they can’t get the death penalty because no body that’s not how it works.
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  950.  @lena-mariaglouis-charles7036  I understand where you’re saying, and I can respect that however, some criminals deserve the ultimate punishment that we have in this country and at the end of the day it’s not like he’s going to be put to sleep all week after he gets put on death row he will sit there for 20 or 30 or even 40 years before he’s put to death
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  951.  @lena-mariaglouis-charles7036  he shouldn’t get any special treatment. If he doesn’t get the DP he should be housed in general population and let prison justice happen
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  952. They didn’t say to prove his innocence so let’s get that out of the way
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  953. I never agree with Rosie but here we are 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m 1000% with her on all of this
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  954. Those cases aren’t even remotely close to being on the same level. And do I think Casey Anthony is guilty absolutely but guess what the state of Florida did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed the murder of her child, the jury found her not guilty. And with this case the state did not prove Scott , guilty beyond a reasonable doubt number #2!the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that police officers job is to enforce and uphold the law. It is not their duty to protect go look it up.
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  955.  @diego5125  actually, it’s across the entire United States. Go look up the Supreme Court and what they say a police officers job is I’m not just making it up.
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  956.  @diego5125  yes that’s exactly what I’m saying if you don’t believe me, go Google what the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on protect and serve for police. They need to just remove that from their cars. It is not their job however, they still do protect.
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  957.  @diego5125  I want to know what police officer makes $250,000 a year first of all second of all I didn’t make this ruling the United States Supreme Court did so maybe take it up with them🤷🏻‍♀️
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  958. The government doesn’t have any evidence that he conspired with Alex to murder Maggie and Paul
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  959.  @amym.poterucha8322  it doesn’t matter at the end of the day inmates murdered Jeffery because of his crimes somebody is going to end up killing Chad because of his crimes
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  960.  @mark31995  because that’s what the media reported. OK we’ll go with he was murdered by inmates because of his behavior in prison and we’re gonna pretend that he didn’t get killed by inmates because of his Heynis crimes. We’ll go with that.
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  961.  @carolynwoolverton8810  she has been for many years, but she chooses to stay in an institution
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  962.  @patriotcountry4716  yes I know this! I didn’t list just her. I listed as her other women from years and years past and some of current today I know both mother and father can and do kill their children
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  963. Charles Vallows was shot and killed by Alex Cox on July 11th of 2019 and was never charged for it claiming self defense. Alex Cox died 12/12/19
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  964.  @COMPUTER.SCIENCE.  where did you get that? I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt the state will never offer any plea deal in this case
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  965.  @rvingkeepitrolling8797  y’all are wild😂😂😂😂 I’m sure the government is looking at accounts and when they were made and they can also get IP addresses. Maybe you should call the tip line and tell them to compare Brent’s DNA 🧬 to everything they found or have thus far🤷🏻‍♀️
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  966.  @COMPUTER.SCIENCE.  I never ever implied that. I said the state isn’t going to offer him any plea.
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  967.  @tonysplace9255  I don’t have to be a detective on the case to voice my thought or opinions. Are you the Internet police 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  968. @@mistergoogle1951 I’m still 😂😂😂 at his comment and probably will for a long time. Like am I suppose to be scared someone is going to hack my computer 💻
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  969.  @kytaylor5080  the majority of cases don’t have voluminous amounts of direct evidence. Most cases have a voluminous amount of circumstantial evidence that is stacked and stacked and stacked on top of each other and that’s why most are found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And I’m not fresh out of high school either 😀
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  970.  @kytaylor5080  are you implying that I don’t know that the state is the one that carry’s the burden to prove that the defendant more likely or not committed the crimes in which they have brought against the defendant.
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  971.  @kytaylor5080  how the heck am I a troll? I’m just replaying to your comments trying to say I’m stupid without saying I’m stupid
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  972.  @kytaylor5080  🙄
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  973.  @kytaylor5080  first of all I wish that I’m not the one trying to argue with people you are number two yes, I don’t have time to go do any research right now because I have a job to go to so I’ll do some research and get back to you like I said, I never said I know everything but you’re acting like you know absolutely everything as if you’ve got a lot degree yourself if you do take a screenshot because I want to see it
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  974. Talk to text doesn’t ever work the right way ^^^%
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  975.  @NotYourHandleX  the majority of states with the DP the convicted usually sit on DEATH ROW for 20 plus years anyways going through all the appeal process
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  976.  @NotYourHandleX  the only person that in my time that was found guilty and sentenced to death and asked for his own execution to be done in a quick manner was Timothy McVeigh
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  977.  @rejuvinatez347  blood like substance is what the warrant said. None of it will be released to us until 6/26/23 when his preliminary hearing starts
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  978. Well the State has 60 days after Monday to announce their decision on whether they will seek the DP.
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  979.  @WyattRyeSway  the State has not came out and officially announced they would be seeking the death penalty.
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  980.  @WyattRyeSway  all of are betting on the state that they will seek the death penalty in this case because of the circumstances in the case.
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  981.  @Gianna646  and you’re an idiot because she wasn’t not an absentee parent you act like she was gone for weeks at a time and just resurfaced for a day or two and then left again that’s not the case here
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  982.  @Gianna646  her coworker, testified that she went to the bar every night or the barn every night because the person that owns the farm where her horses were being boarded stated that she did not come there every night
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  983. @@edith9268this 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  984.  @valentinasylvester4709 they do but all DP are on hold currently
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  985.  @n.c.467  well, since my kids are grown, probably not but when they were younger, I told them to do what was right🤷🏻‍♀️
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  986. Judge valentine is a disgrace to the judicial system
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  987.  @LeoHarvey-xu4pj they will not move his trial out of state they could move it further north or south. It happened in Idaho and that’s where it had to be tried.
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  988. Everyone said the same thing about Lori’s trial
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  989.  @CB-rv1jo that’s exactly why her cell was searched!
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  990. I’m sure they will
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  991.  @jessicascism891  naw it is what had to be done. The judge would not have accepted a guilty plea. The judge would have instructed him to think about it and confer with counsel. His defense also advised him to plea not guilty so they could use a DP as leverage later down the road as in plead guilty to all counts and take DP off the table.
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  992. I would so embarrassed if my parents acted in this matter and said the things Donna has.
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  993. Was it disturbing pictures or a disturbing picture cause I only saw one and I’ve only heard about the one
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  994.  @SheJukester  and I’m pretty sure you going to work and doing things that you enjoy to do take away from your kids if you have children stop acting like you’re the perfect parent
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  995.  @jades.32  well the psychiatrist that evaluated him while he was in jail, and during his Miller hearing, says that Ethan does not suffer from any of that so there’s that🤷🏻‍♀️
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  996.  @jades.32  all of you people just have it in your head that he was mentally ill and his parents didn’t do a damn thing but you’re wrong. Even a psychiatrist had evaluated him says he does not suffer from mental illness.
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  997.  @jades.32  are you people saying that he was mentally ill and his parents dude didn’t do this didn’t do that just an FYI he was a valuated by a psychiatrist and had a complete evaluation done and guess what they found that Ethan was not mentally ill go back and watch all the hearings and the Miller hearings because it’s all right in there
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  998. I just noticed that and I about crapped my pants🤣
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  999. Yeah well she’s been convicted of the murders so go cry 😭 somewhere else 🤷🏻‍♀️😂🤣
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  1000.  @apollothirteen9236 the state did prove it and the jury convicted her on every single count 🤷🏻‍♀️ get over it already!
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  1001.  @timothysherreyehler5095 last time I checked once you reach the age of 18 your considered a legal adult 🤷🏻‍♀️ they all were over the age of 18. It’s not like they were 12 or 13 when this happened. Not victim blaming but they all had the where with all to not get on that boat with Paul and they chose to.
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  1002. You obviously don’t know much about this case because they were interviewed had their house searched the afternoon and evening of the shooting and then we’re free to stay in their home, but they chose to leave because they were being threatened
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  1003. Wacky Wendi
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  1004.  @TheBLGL  I watched every single minute of that trial. You are the one that has a screw loose.
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  1005.  @TheBLGL  you have mental issues if you honestly believe that, Adam did not kill his daughter you’re one sick individual because he did
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  1006.  @Juke582  but she did because she took him to the shooting range and James put the gun in the back of her SUV underneath where the spare tire is to transport it, but it wasn’t left in the car after the shooting range like this idiot above is trying to say it was
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  1007.  @cairnterriermom8546  that’s because people like you comment even though you didn’t watch all of the Miller hearing or obviously Jennifer’s trial that just happened
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  1008. To the jury it does matter because that’s part of the states case. Her defense is going to say Chad manipulated her into the things she’s charged with.
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  1009.  @brianreed8271  me either but watch her attorneys will say that Chad was the mastermind behind all of it and Lori was brainwashed
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  1010.  @kaylingardner_  that’s exactly how I took it as well.
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  1011. givememore4free Lori recieved survivor benefits for both JJ and Tylee in the amount of $6,000 a month per child. Tylee’s dad ryan did have life insurance that she would have gotten when she turned 18
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  1012. Brenda Brandstatt yes she was using her card while in Hawaii
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  1013. Brenda Brandstatt anytime! I’ve literally torn this case apart. I’ve even got court documents from way back before the children were found on Mr. Dumbells property
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  1014. Brenda Brandstatt okay because I’m a thinker and like to break things down. Lori may not have gotten Charles life insurance of 1million but they were still legally married when he was murdered so she still stood to receive survivors benefits 🤷🏻‍♀️ so that would mean she was collecting for 3 not just the children. Now I have to go and research this one 🤔
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  1015.  @estrella5935  I agree! I think it’s BULLSHIT
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  1016. Disagree with chew
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  1017.  @BoyMama87  I don’t know if it happened here because we’re not seeing all of Ethan’s messages to his friend he could’ve deleted them and the state had law-enforcement recover them but I know my granddaughter she’s 12 and I would check her phone and she would delete stuff so even check children’s phone nowadays half the time they’re smarter than their parents when it comes to deleting messages and hiding stuff
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  1018.  @syon600  really? Where did I ever say you couldn’t?
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  1019. This woman is killing me. He could be a threat. No he is a threat. He murdered his three boys and shot his wife in the end. Sorry not sorry, but this dude does not get a free pass from me nor the majority of the world.
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  1020. And case workers LIE ALL DAY EVERYDAY
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  1021.  @EatYourCookies_ because it’s big business for states 🤷🏻‍♀️ CPS , DHS, any foster care facility are nothing but legal criminals and that’s the damn truth
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  1022. NOT GUILTY
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  1023.  @Ausgar-yc1yl you’re correct! Some people aren’t aware that she never legally got her name changed. She was to busy running to Hawaii and hiding from the Idaho authorities 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1024. Yeah it’s called her being a spoiled brat. She’s entitled to daddy’s money and she didn’t get her way about going to go get her hair done for her birthday, so this is what she did.
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  1025. Your comment shows that you are part of the problem
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  1026.  @Seashellsbytheseashore21  There are four kinds of criminal intent: purposeful, knowing, reckless, and negligent.
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  1027.  @Seashellsbytheseashore21  they don’t have to prove intent just like they don’t have to prove motive in all cases
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  1028.  @deborahkennedy4376 I think it’s because she wasn’t born while this all was going on.
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  1029.  @BreZora  heroin, and crack are much stronger drugs than an opiate 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1030. I’ve tried looking him up I can’t find anything
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  1031. Chris Watts pleaded guilty so they would take the death penalty off the table they transferred him from Colorado to Wisconsin due to them keeping him safe which is bullshit
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  1032.  @roriemcfadden6097 the CA stands for Charlie Adelson not California
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  1033. Exactly! How can you be the chief financial officer and miss millions? And this went on for years and years🤷🏻‍♀️ didn’t she do checks and balances?
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  1034.  @Juke582  there has not been any monies paid out by the school
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  1035.  @batangaseaaa  what motive did Katie have? Wendi stood more to gain in EVERY WAY than anyone else involved in this train wreck inside of a dumpster fire 🔥
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  1036.  @batangaseaaa  she wanted money, but she had no idea who she was taking the head out on until after it was done according to her testimony just yesterday not saying that we can believe her because she is a known pathological liar
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  1037.  @pheo1418  like I said, she may have wanted money, but Charlie did not tell her who it was going to be against. She didn’t find out until after the back of who he wanted killed.
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  1038.  @pheo1418  you guys are getting it twisted. What I’m trying to say Katie on her own would have never hired hitman to murder Dan on her own. She did it or Charlie, not knowing who the intended person was
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  1039.  @April-xs9tk that was his step father. His biological father and stepmother live in Oklahoma
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  1040.  @I.Grow.Multiples  well I’ve seen it all, including all of Ethan’s, hearing his Miller, hearing his sentencing, and what he said at his sentencing, and stand by what I say, not guilty
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  1041. The state has turned over 51 TB. Yes you heard me correct 51 TB of evidence so the defense can stop blowing smoke up everybody’s ass and saying that the state isn’t giving them this that or the other thing they need to go through the evidence that they have And look for themselves. Doesn’t anyone stop and think maybe the defense is asking for evidence that the state doesn’t have?
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  1042. The only way he’s not gonna get the death penalty is if he pleads guilty to the charges and the state agrees to remove the death penalty
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  1043. Yes it has all been verified that the geek squad was at her house on that date. Jeff even said the tv was broke.
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  1044. Amen 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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  1045.  @karmahappensboom7031  so she testified to the fact that his friend coming over his room was always like that, even in the second room that his friend moved away a month before this happened?
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  1046.  @karmahappensboom7031  she said that his friend would come over to their house, but Ethan wasn’t allowed at his friends house, so how does this have anything to do with what you wrote?
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  1047. Nothing other than the fact that he resembles Dennis Rader with a really bad comb-over
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  1048. Because he’s hearing impaired
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  1049.  @mariemazzo  and that’s not gonna stop the prosecution for seeking the death penalty because they’ve already said they are
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  1050. Who cares about Tracy? And what did she think was going to happen that he was going to be found not guilty come on now
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  1051. And Ted Bundy didn’t have a connection to all the women he murdered either, so what is this lady’s point?
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  1052. Gerardine Cizmar from what I’ve read and heard through the media is that he was checked for any toxins and he was cremated very quickly.
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  1053. Bryn Bailey I just want to know if she collected any insurance money for Alex🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1054.  @Resmith18SR  because we’re entitled to give our opinion on what we know the spar
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  1055.  @Resmith18SR  well, since this is a public thread, anybody is allowed to give their opinions on the case, juries are usually picked with people, not knowing about the case or very little
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  1056.  @KitKatToeBeans  actually I can say that if that was my child that did that no I would not want the parents charged if my son or daughter did something like that and they were charged. I would be OK with that. This prosecution is just on a witch hunt, and she wants to be able to say the prosecuting attorney charge the parents of a mass school shooting look at me look at me
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  1057.  @jg9099  because her ex-husband was shot and killed by a.k.a. a bullet and then she went and purchased bullet bourbon for a stock, the bar party that she had to go to that night, but ended up not going, obviously, because of what happened
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  1058. We aren’t encouraging anyone to remain silent. It’s called the accused constitutional rights. We have the us constitution and everyone is entitled to these to rights no matter how any of us feel about him or his family.
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  1059. Joe Ryan was her 3rd husband and they did an investigation after 2020 when all this happened and Joe died of a heart attack
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  1060.  @shay4415  because this case right now is in Idaho. If any charges were brought they would happen in Arizona. 2 different jurisdictions are at play here.
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  1061. Charlie does have a child
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  1062. This 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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  1063.  @steelhurricane4041 Donna was arrested 11/13/23
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  1064. Kind of like Bryan in Idaho that killed 4 college students they have the death penalty why didn’t he kill somebody in Washington state university where they don’t have a death penalty make it make sense people 🤷🏻‍♀️ and I’m not condoning murdering anybody I’m just saying if you know your state has the death penalty why are we committing murders in states that have it? Why are we committing murders at all?
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  1065. Judges have immunity
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  1066.  @deb-77d  I don’t know everything that’s gone on in this case. However, when you have bipolar, it just doesn’t magically disappear she could’ve had a manic episode we don’t know.
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  1067.  @jesusisgod4992  I guess I just can’t imagine putting the little bit of energy I do have into being up in everybody else’s business and conspiring to murder the father of my grandchildren. I love my grandkids but I don’t care how much I didn’t like their father. I’m not spending the rest of my life in prison for nobody and I mean nobody!
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  1068. Amen 🙏 to your entire comment!
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  1069. Because they just do a background check and appear to the outside world that they are these amazing people and can give this child a great upbringing it’s all bullshit to me
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  1070.  @gregorylyon1004  actually you’re wrong Dad bought the gun and his mom bought the ammo when they went to the gun range. And guess what neither one of them are illegal in the state of Michigan and at the time this happened there was no safe storage loss, so I don’t care what people say he had it planned out for months
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  1071. Adam Platt, guilty to abuse of a corpse and falsifying something that was yesterday while the jury was out on their little field trip
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  1072.  @Galaxie08  but he plead guilty those charges yesterday after the jury had already been seated.
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  1073.  @Galaxie08  he pled guilty to the abuse of a corpse and falsifying. Yesterday is what I was implying.
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  1074.  @Galaxie08  and I never said he plead guilty to Harmony’s murder, so check yourself🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1075.  @jlob5296  actually no I’m not talking or describing Jennifer. Jennifer never got up on the stand and gave the impression that she was the perfect mother or mother of the year like the majority of y’all in the comment section the cheap seats 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1076.  @dudemorris7769  🤣🤣 that’s funny! In the call with Melanie G Lori flat out says that Al doesn’t even know where the children are 😳 hope that works out for her 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1077.  @FuzzyStayBuzzin183  first of all, let’s get this straight he has already been found guilty for his criminal acts. What is going on right now, has nothing to do with that other than the fact that it is alleged that she tampered with the jury so if that is true, she needs to be held accountable just like any one of us in the public would
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  1078.  @FuzzyStayBuzzin183  I hope you realize that these jurors that have come forward and have given sworn affidavits are not going to jeopardize their lives and make up some bullshit lie about Rebecca Hill. If it did not happen, there are four of them. If it was just one, I would think probably not, but there’s four.
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  1079.  @Life_Of_Tootie  makes you wonder how many cases have had this happen and the jurors kept their mouth shut 🤐 and not just in SC
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  1080.  @Lake31  thank you I didn’t realize they had adopted 2 children
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  1081.  @Kneptag  any psychiatrist psychologist will tell you the majority of people with a mental defect or mental illness. Do not plan to kill their children or anyone, so I highly doubt insanity is gonna work out for him.
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  1082. He’s been in jail since he was arrested.
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  1083.  @AlexisRoark I understand what your saying however Crystal’s rights were terminated by the courts so she would have a hard time suing for even a wrongful death because she no longer had rights to Harmony
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  1084.  @ObeseCaligula  and yeah, here you are commenting on a segment that clearly isn’t what you choose to watch so maybe you should take yourself to a new station that’s covering the Fuckery and Ukraine🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1085.  @DebbieTomkoSUNSHINE  yes it does however it’s not needed for them to get a guilty verdict either 🤷🏻‍♀️
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  1086.  @NuraCaicedo-xh2ok  I’m the one that said they don’t need motive, and I was replying to somebody saying that they need a motive
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  1087.  @shadow8276  I agree, 1,000,000% however judges and district attorneys and all governmental agencies have this bullshit thing called government immunity.
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  1088. This is OLD NEWS
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  1089.  @bananapants7656  for your information she was arrested out of the country a while back ago and she tried to escape while she went to a medical appointment yesterday but as far as them starting off the segment that was over a year ago
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  1090. Well Georgia it is the assistant DA, and if she thought she had what she needed to get an indictment and get a conviction she would’ve already done it so unless you all have other evidence that she does not have, please get in contact with her
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  1091. Here’s the thing an appeal is not gonna last that long and they will have to fork out the money. It’s not like it’s gonna be five 1015 years from now that they have to sell this money out it’ll be within probably 2 to 5 years I’d say.
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  1092. If Becky did, in fact, tamper with the jury, yes, she should be charged, and anybody that is charged with a crime. Should worry that these types of things go on.
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  1093.  @katerinasalvatore2707  per his phone records GPS and all that other data he had been at the King Road residence 12 times prior to them being murdered just because he didn’t know them personally doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have killed them
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  1094.  @katerinasalvatore2707  let’s face it, the police, and FBI they have software that can literally put him within feet of that residence based off what they have
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  1095.  @katerinasalvatore2707  and I know this, because one of my best friends is a Detective and my next-door neighbor is a detective and trust me they can put somebody within feet of a crime
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  1096.  @gibbo822  have you ever thought that the discovery that they are asking for just doesn’t exist this is a tactic that lawyers use
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  1097.  @gibbo822  the prosecution has handed over 51 TB of discovery maybe just maybe they don’t have what the defense is asking for maybe it’s not back from the labs yet or maybe it just simply does not exist
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  1098.  @adonyisrael1724  from what I was gathering Jesse was saying that her attorneys were in on the letter and they knew about it I don’t even know
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  1099.  @Seashellsbytheseashore21  it works both ways guilty, and the innocent sometimes want a speedy trial so you can’t go on just if they’re guilty or not
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  1100.  @rahan9886  long drawn out speeches before he hands down the sentence.
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  1101. Look it up because dna 🧬 is circumstantial evidence
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  1102.  @hollymartinson-ui1ks  they haven’t told us what the percentages of the dna match just yet.
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  1103.  @StompingRabbits  it’s not a slam dunk by any means.
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  1104.  @moonie9000  oh, I get what you’re saying but from a legal standpoint DNA is still considered circumstantial evidence am I saying that he more likely than not is the guilty party? Absolutely not he is with was it State has it proves that he obviously was there and did what he did, but I’m just telling you legally DNA is still considered circumstantial evidence
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  1105. Exactly and what about that scumbag Chad out of Ohio who executed all three of his children😢😢😢
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  1106.  @lisabelle7553  that other court hearing was for her son and it was scheduled the same day and time.
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