Comments by "zjeee" (@zjeee) on "Are Putin's Claims About Ukrainian Nazis Real? - TLDR News" video.

I don't think you should put too much energy on Putin's Casus belli he said the whole Ukrainian regime is full of Nazis not just the Azov regiment. If the Azov did not exist Putin would just come up with another excuse to justify his war.
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@louisecorchevolle9241 There are memorial plaques to Henri Philippe Pétain and Pierre Laval, the head and prime minister of France’s collaborationist Vichy government which hunted down and deported 67,000 Jews to the concentration camps. Pétain is honored with 11 streets in the U.S Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, both have busts in upstate New York and Wisconsin. Andrey Vlasov, the Soviet general who went over to the Nazis and raised an army of over 100,000 men for the Third Reich, has a memorial just outside New York. Chicago also has a memorial to Adolfas Ramanauskas-Vanagas, who commanded a unit of the Lithuanian Activist Front, a Nazi-allied organization whose members slaughtered Jews across Lithuania in the summer of 1941. There you go, according to you this is proof that a majority of Americans are Nazis, right? Also Russia has TONS of statues of Stalin, the man that purged the Polish army and intellectuals several times, does that mean all Russians are communists that support the genocide of Poles?
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Sorry I don't see the big deal, the guy said the Azov battalion/regiment are 1000 men and about 10-20% of them identifies as Nazis. So you have 100-200 Nazis in your army. I am pretty sure most armed forces have more than 200 Nazis in their armies.
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Didn't the Right sector and Svoboda and 3 other right wing parties join together in 2019 and get like 2%ish? Doesn't sound like a big right wing problem to me back home (Sweden) our right-wing anti immigration party got 17.5% LOL.
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@v-vinz6869 Socialism and Fascism are definitely similar in some regards and it's not a coincidence that the man that coined the term Fascism (Benito Mussolini) was a Socialist politician before resigning and creating his own ideology. His family were die hard socialists If you don't believe me check his name: He was named after leftist Mexican President Benito Juárez. His two middle names, Amilcare and Andrea, came from Italian socialists Amilcare Cipriani and Andrea Costa. Of course there are maaaany differences between the two and I am not going to pretend they are the same even though they share many similarities but - in my opinion - in practice it's very hard to label ideologies on a right or left spectrum. For example nationalism is usually placed on the right while communism is placed on the left spectrum, China is extremely nationalistic which should make them right wing but if you ask them they would proclaim they are die hard communists which would put them on the left. In my country (Sweden) our right wing party received 17.5% of the votes yet there are more similarities to fascism between the Communist regime in China which we can all agree should be on the far left spectrum and a self proclaimed right wing party in my country which we (at least in my country) put on the extreme right. So yes, in theory Fascism should traditionally be on the right side of the political spectrum but in reality it's not as easy as that and in many cases you can find more fascist tendencies on the "left" and in communist countries than you can in governments that are considered far right.
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Yep, I agree it's time to say no to Fascism, take Putin out.
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Sorry don't see this as a major problem, I am Swedish and our neighbouring country used to teach and use Swedish in their school system as a big part of Finland has Swedish speakers because Finland was Swedish for several hundreds of years. Then one of their new governments made a law to stop teaching and speaking Swedish in Finnish schools. Even as a Swede I don't see this as a big deal, it's not like they banned people from speaking Swedish they just want the Finnish schools teach in Finnish. I am currently living in China and here they even forbid schools to teach in Chinese dialects, it has to be the Beijing dialect Mandarin Chinese that is being taught no matter where you are in the country. I think this is pretty normal and you can find these tendencies all across the world. If you feel offended by it I am sorry but it really just seems like a minor inconvenience to me - I've seen Zelenskyy speak both Ukrainian and Russian so I am sure you are still allowed to speak Russian in Ukraine and that's what matters really.
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@maelstrom254 You do know Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, have monuments and statues in upstate New York and Wisconsin too, right? Just because a country has a statue of a guy does not mean all it's inhabitants love the guy.
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They are called the Azov regiment now, they are a part of the Ukrainian army. Comparing them to ISIS is not a good comparison you are talking about a 1000 man regiment in an army. They are not controlling the army besides not all of them are Nazis. ISIS built a state on their extreme ideology making execution and torture part of government law. Azov have no influence over governance and are taking orders from Army command. Are Azov soldiers running around in the west blowing themselves up or killing civilians on the streets? No they are killing Russian SOLDIERS that invaded their country. SOLDIERS. Pretty much every single country in the world could agree that ISIS is a wicked terrorist organization that needs to go, the only nation in the world that is talking about Azov is Russia, and perhaps their friends in Belarus. Besides I don't want to seem cold hearted but we're closely allied to the Saudis even though their leader makes a habit of sending death squads after journalists all over the world and then we're going to cry about Russia's claim of 100 or so supposed Nazis defending Ukrainian territory against an invasion? The US and EU tolerates a lot worse than a small fringe group of 100 or so Nazis defending their country against a common enemy of ours.
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@Miamcoline This year is an election year in Sweden and the last survey put them on 19.7% they used to be over 20% a year ago or so. But yeah polls are obviously not 100% correct but most people expect them to get more than 17.5% like they did last election 3 and a half years ago.
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That happens in every fcking country in the world... racism is everywhere unfortunately, not just in Ukraine
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There is a huge difference between a Nazi and a racist though and the claim from Russia is that they are Nazis not racists.
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If you go by his video it's 100 soldiers out of a 250k military that's 0.0004%. Israel is not going to bother about every single individual Nazi in the world they would love to but they don't have the resources to go after them all. Besides the way we associate Nazis are with antisemitism and the Azov regiment has Jews and are fighting for a Jew so the term Nazi is coming out of Russia, in the west some of these guys would probably be defined as nationalists or right wing not Nazis. The video even states their leader looking up to Israel. If you are a true Nazi you don't say things like that. That's just Nazi 101.
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We can only imagine what would make them admire Japan and Israel, I am sure there is more than one reason. Just the fact that a supposed "Neo-Nazi group" is admiring Israel is kind of funny by itself
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Hello Putin
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@ThomasTomiczek Really is that why he is bombing civilian targets with cluster bombs?
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Oh the same Svoboda and Right sector that got 2% of the popular vote in the 2019 elections and has no seats in parliament? Yeah that sounds like really influential parties with massive government control... did you watch too much Russian television or are you just stupid?
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What?! A democratically elected leader has been receiving donations from rich people? Say it ain't so? I cannot think of any example anywhere else in the world where this has happened before 🤣🤣🤣. We can always speculate in various conspiracy theories but just remember these kind of theories exists everywhere. Even in the US plenty of people call Joe Biden a puppet, is he one though? Maybe he is maybe he isn't. Whatever Zelenskyy is he was elected by his people to lead his country and he is doing a great job, he has a sky high approval rating by his people and after every speech he has in the west he receives plenty of support in terms of money and supplies. Is he faking it? perhaps. Is it working? Yes. Isn't that what politics is all about at the end of the day? "An honest politician is an oxymoron". by Mark Twain.
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Who cares about Asov they are a regiment of 1000 soldiers in which about 100-200 identifies as Nazi in a 250k Ukrainian army that is 0.0004%. Big deal.
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They are not Russian based, sorry. Don't worry I am sure your regime will ban youtube soon then you can use the Russian version where everything is pro Putin.
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@troublemaker1778 Well to be fair plenty of people even in the US congress and Senate, especially on the Democratic side has shown admiration for figures such as Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. A notable example is Bernie Sanders who almost won the nomination to be the democratic candidate twice. That's the same guy that spent his honeymoon going to the USSR back in the day.
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It matters little to Putin, he would simply just fabricate another excuse to invade Ukraine. If it's not about Denazification it's about something else. But yes it's an interesting point. Also one of his main motivations was to prevent NATO surrounding Russia. But a possible result of the invasion is Finland joining NATO which also borders Russia so the invasion would be very counter productive in this regard too.
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@othalabro8663 The way Putin defines Nazis is anti-Russian. In the west we would call them Nationalist right wingers. They would still be considered extremists but not Nazis. We associate Nazis with antisemitism and these guys fight with Jews in their regiment and fight for a Jew. Their leader is even in this video saying he is looking up to Israel. Basic Nazi 101 - hate Jews. These guys are not Nazis, sorry. Only one calling them Nazis is Putin.
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Hello Putin.
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As soon as I saw you say "Russian side of Ukraine" I knew this was Russian propaganda. There is no Russian side of Ukraine, Ukraine is Ukraine. It's divided East, West, North, South. There is no such thing as a Russian side. Troll.
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@joaoruiz2577 It sounds like you are just repeating Russian propaganda. The only ones claiming the Ukrainian government is being run by Nazis is Russia and it's just simply not true, the right wing nationalists only received 2% of the vote and does not have any seats in the Ukrainian parliament. What other conspiracy theories are you into?
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First off Zelensky banning leftist opposition NOT TRUE. Second PUTIN friggin poisons or assassinate any opposition no matter left right centre doesn't matter. If you want to believe a dictator be my guest just don't expect the rest of us to.
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Bro you know Zelenskyy is Jewish right?
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@Xsomono Just look at it this way through the lens of political theory realism, "Decision-makers are rational actors in the sense that rational decision-making leads to the pursuit of the national interest. taking actions that would make your state weak or vulnerable would not be rational". Disbanding and prosecuting Azov would weaken the state as they need every man they can get fighting the Russians and lower western support for the Ukrainian army if they would admit their soldiers have committed human rights violations. It's in the Ukrainian state's best interest to support Azov as they are doing a good job holding off the Russians. Why is the US allied to the Saudis even though they are probably one of the worst when it comes to human rights? Because they share a common enemy, Iran. They have a shit ton of oil that the US needs and can get at a discount. Is it correct to ally with the Saudis from a moral perspective? No. Then why? Because the alliance makes the US stronger and gives them a presence in the middle east to counter their enemy, Iran. Getting cheaper oil is not a bad thing either. Of course there will always be a balancing act about pros and cons but right now Azov has more pros than cons for the Ukrainian state so they will continue to support them. Perhaps after the war there will be more cons than pros and they might change their stance. But for now not supporting them would make the Ukrainian state weaker and would not serve Ukraine's national interest and would therefor not be a rational decision. Obviously this is one of many political theories but sometimes acting morally is not in the best interest of a state and it's better to come at it from a rational approach. Not always but in this case it can make a good example to explain a state's behaviour, In my opinion anyway.
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Because it's Russian propaganda calling them Nazis the EU does not trust Putin
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@jasonpark4293 They are part of the Ukrainian army that's where they get all the equipment and ammunition that is normal. What, you think that as soon as you retire you get to keep all the equipment you used in the military??! Oh you are going to retire from being a tank driver? Oh well I guess since you were driving this tank it's yours now... That's not how the army works man 🤣🤣🤣. Army equipment is not personal property not the same thing. Otherwise we'd have a whole population of retired veterans with private jet fighters and tanks all over the world. If you drive a tank in the army and you retired you will be replaced by another soldier who is going to drive that tank. Do I really have to explain this???
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There is a big difference between Nazis and Racists though.
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you fail logic.
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@greed864 Per capita who knows really, I am pretty sure you can find bigger far right extremists in US than KKK if you put some thought into it. I am not American and it took me about 2 minutes to think of one, AB Aryan Brotherhood. Now these guys are true Nazis and they are estimated to have 15,000–20,000 members at least according to the Anti-defamation league. Like I said I am not American though I am sure you can find plenty of other organizations that share ABs ideology.
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Yeah there are about 100 Nazis in the Ukrainian army fighting Russians. Big deal.
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Well the topic here was are they Nazis or not I am not sure Nazis would look up to Israel. Are they right wing? Sure but you will find plenty of right wing leaning groups in all countries.
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Didn't the guy say they only received 2% of the vote and has no seats in parliament? And they are only expected to be 10-20% out of a 1000 man regiment that would make them 100-200 men strong in an army of 250k soldiers. Doesn't sound like a large influence to me neither in Politics nor military.
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Yep that is the truth. Compared to other western Nations Ukraine's far right movement is pretty small. In my country (Sweden) the Far right party received 17.5% of the votes, in Ukraine they got 2%.
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