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Comments by "" (@hewitc) on "Elon Musk rips into working remotely. See what ‘Shark Tank’ host Kevin O’Leary has to say" video.
You just made the argument for NOT allowing employees to work at home. Spending time during the "working day" with little ones, household chores, etc. is not what the employer is paying you for.
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@AlanWil2 I would be worried about my job security if I "don't have to actually do anything".
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@IMGreg.. He's now Trump nuts
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I agree with both.
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"Most"? IMO the "bosses" are the ones who come in. They know the value of being seen by the 'higher ups'. That's how you get to be a boss.
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@aeriarose If that were true (in all cases, which I don't think you mean) a worker going to the office who is given a "project" could complete the project then just hang around goofing off or go home early. I've never seen anyone who values getting paid do that. In the real world that employee wouldn't do too well. What boss wants to hear "I'm not busy. I finished my project!" My experience as a worker and a boss is that that a good employee should now either volunteer for, or be given additional or more challenging projects. There is always something to do if you are worth keeping. Independent contractors are a different matter. People at the who don't need or care about the salary may do what they please. That was never my case.
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It all depends on the classification of the worker. If you are paid by the hour and you complete what you deem to be "your work" in 6 hours then the employer can give you additional work to fill the time. If you work by the hour you don't get to decide what things you do in that time period.
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I agree, but only if you are ambitious and want to get ahead. Then you need to be seen and have your work appreciated. If it's just a 'job' and you don't aspire to anything higher staying home may make sense.
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I think he means the workers who prepare for in factories. Or that delivery men don't get paid for staying home with their kids. They are on the road and that's their workplace, not home.
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@aphrodittee32 I know all about Musk's family etc. He is NOT a self-made man or even a coding genius. There is some confusion. We are calling "remote" WFH. So a delivery man is "at the office" and not home when he is in his delivery vehicle. My company looked at this years ago, pre-Covid, usually for new mothers. Some workers could work from home with no problem. Others could not. It really depended on the job function. Except in rare cases the WFH people were clerical or analysts who would have spent all day in the office with minimal interaction with co-workers. We found it very hard to realistically measure the value of the home workers to the company. They could not really be supervised the way office workers were. You couldn't tell if they were "goofing off" and you similarly couldn't judge whether they were excellent and deserved a a promotion. You never got to test them oout to see if they were smart, hard working, or the opposite. Out of sight out of mind. The middle managers and executives could not realistically do this nor did any of them want to. Even today WFH is not a recommended strategy for those with ambitions, looking to get into the higher levels of the organization's management. That's my experience.
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@mjparham6430 I agree. I would not buy one of his cars. He's an obnoxious Elitist Trumpist
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That's great you can do that. Some people just have investments and don't do any work. But some companies want the workers physically present.
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@DaleHartley Musk's statement on "morality" is a mess. He probably means "hypocrisy". Like, "I have a 'right' to stay at home and work" as long as the food delivery guy has to bring me my food. The delivery guy can't stay home. He has no similar 'right'.
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When you aceept a job you agree to its terms. If the job says you have to come to the office then you come in or don't take the job. You don't decide what's best home or office.
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@Pyladin Who is the "strawman"? A "job" is an agreement between the employee and the employer. Normally it does not provide for the employee to decide where he works. The employer decides. If the employee disagrees he can leave. Very straight forward. No "strawman". I'm not arguing against a ficticious point of view.
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@Pyladin It's arguing a point of view that the other side does not actually present. It's an argument against something that isn't there. Like saying "The Democrats all want open borders and that's a problem."
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