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Comments by "Trazyn" (@Trazynn) on "Climate Plans Potentially Dangerous, New Study Says" video.
There is no inertia in emission-caused climate change. This is because on aggregate the carbon cycle without human emissions is still in a negative feedback loop. Largely because of the ocean already absorbing half of what we emit. Any positive feedback loops are cancelled out and then some. This means that the moment we stop emitting carbon emissions, the warming stops as well at which point the temperature gradually lowers again. The positive feedback loop and runaway greenhouse prophecies are used by activists, not climatologists.
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@dreamcatcher3748 Who knows what could happen, maybe when we reach 500ppm the planet turns into a lush utopia or whatever. Who really knows? Not a very compelling or satisfying argument is it?
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@gabri41200 CO2 is predictable indeed, which is why unknown tipping points are nonsense. We're being buffered hard by humongous negative feedback loops.
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The emissions per capita for OECD countries have already lowered by 20% over the last two decades. We consume less than our parents. When you're talking about 'reducing consumption' you're actually referring to sabotaging developing countries slow crawl out of poverty.
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@gabri41200 That's an argument against mitigation. Not in favour of it. It means uprooting the currency supply chain keeping 8 billion people is inevitable if we start doing serious work at moving to net-zero. Sabine says as much in this video, she shoots every effective mitigation project down. It's not going to happen so we might as well focus on abolishing poverty instead, at least that's a guaranteed ROI.
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Western woman who has lived her entire life in prosperity provided by fossil fuels now warns developing nations who want the same as her that it's not for them.
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@josefk332 Yeah except these bacteria keep on inventing more energy-dense resources to feed themselves so the Malthusian nonsense doesn't fly here.
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@dreamcatcher3748 You're pissing in the wind. The Western population is already rapidly aging and the rest of the global population will soon follow, projected peak at 9.6 billion people after which the entirety of humanity will be confronted with the bleak horror that is living in a geriatric society.
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@carelgoodheir692 there are positive feedback loops, the negative feedback loops are much stronger so we are in a net negative feedback loop. This is also what IPCC climatologists like Ed Hawkins (the guy who made that blue and red stripe visualisation) repeatedly point out.
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