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I find this the most compelling solution. Our universe will provide opportunities for life for trillions of years while we're still only in the first 13.4 billion years of its life. We're inclined to reject this idea that we're one of the first civilizations out of modesty. However this hypothesis isn't grounded in exceptionalism, merely the observation that the window of opportunity for intelligent life has been very brief.
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But at the start of the universe the entropy is what creates. Life can't exist around first generation stars. These stars have to explode and be reborn into a second generation start that holds the building blocks for life. This means that chemically speaking, our universe is becoming more complex rather than less complex.
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The latest estimation based on the Drake equation estimates 36 civilizations in our galaxy. The point this video is making is that in the far future, this number will be much higher because there will be more second generation stars around which life can develop than are present now.
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Our universe is 13.4 billion years old. Not our galaxy, our galaxy is even younger than that, as are all the other galaxies. The point is that all galaxies in our universe are in their infancy.
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Would it be possible to house those ice worms and mussels in a fish tank? Would they need pressure, cold temperatures and how would these clathrates be kept?
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I don't believe that another civilisation, even a primitive one, will ever not be interesting to another civilisation. Look at how we're fascinated by ingenious Amazon tribes or how we keep digging further into our own history. To have a whole world with a whole new history and culture to explore is just irresistible, even if it's your thousandth one you got to index.
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One thing I don't agree with is this frame that the universe is very old. Considering life can only arise around 2nd generation stars, and it takes billions of years for them to form and die, 13.4 billion years isn't a whole lot of time for life to arise let alone colonize the place with probes. There's even a good chance that human civilization may be the first advanced species in this galaxy. We're that early, at the very start of the window in which life can exist.
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Why would an alien species have a radically different biochemistry? Biochemistry is the same across the universe right?
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I fully subscribe to the notion that Earth is early. We could even be the very first advanced civilization. That sounds preposterous and counterintuitive, but keep in mind that this would also sound counterintuitive and presposterous to ANY civilization that would have been the first. And one of them has got to be it. However, the great filter also means that beyond the filter, there's no competition anymore. A civilization that manages to escape its own dying star is also one that won't be threatened by any other dying star either. Once they're past that point it's smooth sailing from there.
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@aliendoggy1 yeah but we won't be part of the time that will tell.
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That's because invoking a phenomenon that we don't understand to explain another phenomenon we don't understand isn't really advancing our knowledge.
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Would it be possible to 'mount' interstellar asteroids and ride them to a different star? If they're cyclical then eventually we would be able to retrieve whatever (or even whomever) has been put on that asteroid.
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