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Comments by "Trazyn" (@Trazynn) on "Fossil Fuels: The Greenest Energy | 5 Minute Video" video.
This video is shooting itself in the foot so incredibly hard. Yes we need more energy, anything but fossil energy.
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The lack of an established energy infrastructure makes African communities ideal for moving straight to renewables.
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jjmonns The developing countries are already outperforming the west when it comes to modernising their energy infrastructure. They're putting the US to shame.
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In amount of renewable share in their energy mix over the past decades. India and many African nations are doing fantastic on that front while the US is pathetic. Most rural African communities have to rely on kerosene lighting. Solar powered LED's suddenly brought them into this century. Fossil energy never even connected to any type of grid. That's the beauty of renewables, they're decentralised. They don't need big government and big oil to come up with some centralised solution, these people can just start small and built from there. And if that threatens the stock portfolio of Koch industries then so be it.
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Okay so you're clearly unaware of all the huge tax benefits big oil gets. That's fine, they don't advertise that. But your Kochbros also lobbied to ensure ridiculous taxation on solar in every state they could get. You're advocating for a fossil cartel that doesn't want any honest competition.
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It's just way harder to monopolise, but if you hate the free market and want to keep taking it up the ass from the oil lobby then definitely keep clinging on to those fossil subsidies.
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And yet China is putting the West to shame in the headway they're making in cleaning up their industry and reducing their footprint. The government even pledged to cut meat consumption in half. That's huge!
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China suffers from massive desertification in the Gobi desert due to climate change.
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jjmonns These people aren't getting the same subsidies big oil gets. Don't preach to me about receiving free shit, that's exactly what the fossil sector is getting.
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Ah so you're a denier of anthro climate change. You could've said that from the start then I wouldn't have bothered taking you serious in the first place.
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The consumer end is even more atrocious. Renewables are so small scaled that any home-owner can start selling excess electricity back to the grid. So the big oil cartel immediately and successfully lobbied for a hike in surcharges on any money people are making from renewables. Face it, the fossil industry IS the big government solution to the energy problem.
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So why is it that being concerned about the collective IE "everyone benefits" is fine and makes you a proud free marketeer while being concerned about "everyone suffers" from the pollution, the increased insurance costs, the increased price of tap water, the degradation of the land and the ruination of the air in cities makes someone a dirty socialist? What's the difference? Money? You think environmental damage has no price tag?
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Homemade Soap The US has an ecological footprint of 8.0 per capita. China has an ecological footprint of 2.2 per capita. In other words. If every human being lived like an American person we'd need 8 planets. If everyone lived like a Chinese person we'd need 2.2 Planet Earths. China has been developing fast and their ecological footprint has been growing fast. Yet thanks to the enormous efforts towards efficiency they won't ever become as decadent as Americans, they may even end up with a better living standard if they continue with this trend.
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"between 1994 and 2009 the U.S. oil and gas industries received a cumulative $446.96 billion in subsidies, compared to just $5.93 billion given to renewables in those years." http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2013/02/14/government-subsidies-silent-killer-of-renewable-energy .
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Soot is SOx and was a result of inefficient combustion of coal within close proximity urban areas. Very nasty and very visible. CO2 is invisible and doesn't leave any traces other than increased radiative forcing in our atmosphere changing our climate and causing havoc on the economic stability that relies on stable weather and successful harvests. After all Syrian conflict started after crop failure send grain prices up in 2007. And even considering all that we still have a major pollution problem. There's still SoX, NoX, lead and other heavy metals in the air that we end up paying the price for in health insurance. Everything has a price tag, there's far more at play than blackened buildings. I honestly don't see why you keep resisting electric cars largely powered by renewable energy.
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I had no idea. I thought you were making a case for fossil pollution still being worth it even considering the climate change it causes but now you ignore any cost to pollution I can see why you're a big fan of it.
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They are reducing the growth of their footprint and considering that they have HALF the footprint per capita that the USA has that's a great thing. Again, they're putting the US to utter shame.
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Just like the advocates of Coal never mention the external costs, China has thing or two to say about that. Boy are they happy with their emissions.
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So it's a cost-benefit analysis where you pretend that the costs aren't real. And I thought it were the tree-hugging hippies that were clueless about finance and business.
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I won't. The Stern review isn't just taken seriously among scientists, its'also taken seriously among economists. This is my premise for a discussion. You can't just handwave these gross costs to pollution by pretending it doesn't exist. Companies have gone bankrupt for less.
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Apology accepted! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/world-energy-hits-a-turning-point-solar-that-s-cheaper-than-wind
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
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Homemade Soap All other forms of pollution are mostly domestic problems though. CO2 affects everyone.
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Why should people in smaller countries be allowed to pollute more than those living in large countries?
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Ever heard of the Stern review?
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What countries do their own economies is their problem. CO2 gets shifted on everyone else, even those that have cleaned up their own economies. China's local pollution doesn't somehow invalidate their much lower CO2 per capita compared to Western countries.
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