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@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 In the Somayajna ritual today it is the somalatha plant that is used, and the Zoroastrians that are left use ephedra mixed with pomegranate twig (and used in the battle between order and chaos). Historically and trying to find the original identity of the soma plant they're mainly talking about 10 plants – in fact the fly agaric (rød fluesopp ;) is one of the most commonly mentioned. The others are: the already mentioned somalatha, the psilocybin mushroom Psilocybe cubensis, Ephedra, the perenn Peganum harmala, the Lotus flower Nelumbo nucifera, the fungus Claviceps purpurea, the sugarcane Saccharum Sara and cannabis. Haven't had time to figure out which of them grow in Europe. What we DO know – and here it gets very interesting is that the original proto-Indo European word for this drink is *medhu – 'methu' in Greek, ('mead' in English and 'mjöd' around here) and the Greeks had another word for wine, so it was NOT alcohol (in fact the Sanskrit/Hindi word to describe the characteristics of Soma drink is 'madhu', meaning sweet or honey). Odin actually steals 'the mead that's been mixed with blood and been fermented' and uses it to create peace between the Aesir and Vanir. The Celts had the 'Flaith' drink, meaning 'red ale'. In Homer we find several ritual drinks beside the 'methu', for example the Nekter drink (ambrosia meaning 'not dying' in Koinë Greek). I could go on and on, but as you know YouTube comments aren't the right forum for this ;) One thing is for sure – the Indo European tradition is FULL of ritual drinks, made out of everything from alcohol to hallucinogen mushrooms and plants. It's part of our history and worldview and very important in my opinion.
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The small city of Höör in Skåne is actually named after hörgr, so something must've been very important there. And many other Swedish places got -hörg or -harg in them, but often became -herge, -hälla or even -erid. Btw, a video on the sacred places and groves (ve) would be very interesting. I've heard that our ancestors sometimes built the hörgr inside a ve, and the whole site was the 'altar'. Then there was also a fire in front of the hörgr. Speaking of ve – so many Scandinavian places are named with that, not the least Odens(v)e, Vä, Ullvi, Karlevi, actually even the city of Skövde, that was originally Skedevi. Hälsningar från Sverige!
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To circumambulate something is to honor that which is circumambulated, and the spirit associated with it. (Proto)Indo-European rituals often included this, since movement is to act in natural accordance with the Xártus. Interestingly enough, compared to the later phenomena you describe, is that the original (P)IE way was always to circle clockwise, since this is how the sun moves, and it'd be to act in accordance with natural order. You invoke the power of nature, you become the sun – and the object becomes that which the sun orbits. Also, for the (P)IE it was important to move clockwise since then you'd always have your right side toward it – meaning you honor it. Moving counterclockwise did happen, and that was the kind of magic when you wanted to disestablish something, to break things up and open them, so that your prayers may enter the realm that way.
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Ovaries! No wind! Selection of dharma! Read all about it! Knowing that all the Indo European peoples – no matter where they ended up – were very aware of the self-realization and the atman going up in the brahman and had a reincarnation world view, Valhall as a 'heaven you go to when you die in battle' is out of the question. Possibly much later on someone might've thought that – when it all comes down to it we all actually die in battle, since life is struggle and suffering (not the least according to Buddhism). Jung's Warrior archetype has Indo European roots, and 'the death of the warrior', i.e. the death of the ego with self-realization as a result, is something we all have to go through, and the Indo European peoples did this both physically and symbolically to reach your higher level (the YT account Thoughts on thinking has a great video on the strive for excellency in Homer). Nirvana – nirva=wind and 'na' is the negation, so meaning 'no wind' – and moksha is the most probable origin of what later became Valhall. Where there's no struggle and suffering (wind) there's peace, i.e. no more rebirth. In the Vedic texts they talk a lot about that death is just a state where you choose (VAL!) your soul's swadharma before being reborn. I personally also think that Valhalla is a metaphor for the ovaries – a place where you choose your swadharma but also where you are the one chosen to be reborn. Of millions of sperms the egg (Freja) chooses one sperm to fertilize. We are all the chosen one – we have been 'VALD' (VALGT in Norwegian). In nature it's all a selection. And a very interesting last point is that the norn Skuld (meaning both 'debt' and 'what will come' simultaneously, for our non Scandinavian readers) means that you actually are in debt to your own future, the future and the duties you have CHOSEN before this life. You have a choice, but you gotta fulfill your duties, your personal dharma. And you will die in battle while doing it.
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