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Comments by "Killed The Cat" (@killedthecat1034) on "Ukraine sends images of dead Russian soldiers to their families. Hear the responses they received" video.

@sterlingsimmons2935 Their own country is lying to them. They should be informing them of their families death. Instead they have to hear it from what most of them think is the enemy. Are you going to take them seriously without proof? Also... You want to do it asap. So pics on battle fields at sometimes what they have for a while.
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@T13-o7u Lord... I really don't care about your need to posture. My whole fam is military. I grew up on a military base. Which is why I know you are trying to deflect to making this about me, bc you don't like the truth I just told, but can't argue against it.
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@T13-o7u If you unwarranted, invaded a foreign country and started torturing raping and murdering on Mass, all of their people, then they still had the decency to inform the families of the soldiers that were doing so that they had died, when their own gov didn't.... That would be a whole different story. Infact it would be the very situation that they are in right now. Instead.. You want to pretend that you speak for all of the armed forces, bc you know given the proper context, you have no argument.
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@eliza1826 I mean... You can call me a Boo Boo head to make yourself feel better, if you need to... But you're just showing everyone else why they shouldn't take you seriously.
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@T13-o7u "Not about you, but about the mistaken idea of YOURS" "I suggest YOU" "YOU wouldn't last" "YOU need to rethink" You were saying?
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@T13-o7u Though... I'm interested... Where did you serve? Branch, unit, MOS?
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@eliza1826 And we are back to trying to call me a "boo boo head" to try and make yourself feel better. Sad boy.
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@eliza1826 and... My brother... And only sibling fought the Taliban. His brothers families got that call... He carried some off of the field of battle. The Ukrainian ppl are not the Taliban.
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@badmonkey2222 Yeah... A large majority of them are conscripted. Blind hate leads to blind ignorance. Don't let the ppl you hate, turn you into them.
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ben b Sure! If you believe Russian propaganda as to how that all went down. The ppl of Dombas and Crimea could have legally and non violently partitioned to separate from Ukraine and join Russia, using the same charters that Ukraine used, when they left the iron curtain. Over a decade later and they did not do so. Why? Or.... If they wanted to be Russian... They could... Ya know... Move to Russia. You don't get to take the country with you?
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@theprotagonist8755 Yes.... Not knowing.. Living every day looking and wondering... Imagining what has happened or could still be happening to your baby.... That would be the real torture.
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@yehimstone5492 It is... It's just also hard. You get a message from the ppl y0u know you're fighting, telling You that your child is dead. Not from your own gov, but from the enemy.... You gonna believe it without proof?
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@2CJ What part of my first comment to you, gave you the impression that I was going to indulge you making this more about yourself? Everyone has an excise as to why they act the way they do... The thing that matters is you feel the need to qualify it. Meaning you know it's wrong, but choose to do it anyways. In normal everyday little stuff... That's whatever... Wars, torture, rape... Dead kids and everything else that goes along with war... Not so much. So take your justifications to someone who is interested.
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@T13-o7u Please... Feel free to argue the actual substance? Been waiting for that this whole time. Instead... All you been doing is making it about me "being wrong", because you are trying to pretend you speak for the armed forces, when you can't even give your Branch, Unit and MOS.
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@T13-o7u So... If you think that my opinion about what they are doing for the Russian troops is wrong, given the full context that I just gave you up there, please explain why it's wrong, with an argument that doesn't involve you pretending that you speak for the armed forces that you aren't even in? I'll wait...
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@T13-o7u Sooo... Still no argument for how I'm wrong and you're right, then?
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@sterlingsimmons2935 Yeah... You have never been in that situation. I used to volunteer at the VA Family Center both times my brother was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan for 9-month tours. Upon occasion we would have to go with soldiers sent to tell families that their son or daughter had died over there. Almost every time their first reaction is disbelief... And that is coming from their own gov. Not the gov of who they perceive to be the enemy. So it's super easy for you to say now... And maybe you would have that reaction on... But that certainly is not the norm. Not to mention, like they said, they're using facial recognition software to find these soldiers and their families. Whenever we do that in America, we still have to have a family member identified the body to make sure it's them. It would certainly be more delicate if their own government would actually do that, but since they're not...
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@T13-o7u BTW... Gonna give your Branch, Unit and MOS? Or are you stolen Valor?
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@me4698 Oh... I know... He is trying to give his words the illusion of more weight... But is to lazy to do the work. Thanks for your words! ❤
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@T13-o7u Actually it's my Mother, father and brother... And there you go trying to claim you speak for ppl you don't know bc you can't argue the actual point.
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@T13-o7u I'll ask again... If you think I am in the wrong, then argue your case? I'm right here?
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@T13-o7u Oh... And maybe you should ask them what stolen valor is?
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@niksatt4843 Then you go after the real ppl responsible. The ppl who sent them there to attack ppl.
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@2CJ You just made this all about you.
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@2CJ No.. You just use that as an excuse to act the way you do. That is why you feel the need to qualify it so much.
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@Dangbo3030 I know... It's more then sad. I feel bad for the families... but I'm grateful for the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian government for still trying trying to do the right thing despite what the Russian troops are doing to them. It really shows who will be on the right side of history, and who will be known as nothing but an evil vicious dictator. Slava 🇺🇦!
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@mesolithicman164 So... You just proved my point and left out some info that you tried to site. 1. They said it gad duel purpose. 1 was to identify the bodies. 2. You mentioned the second purpose, but didn't say what it was. They did. So... What was it? Btw... What's inhumane is their own gov not having the decency to tell them their child was dead, in the first place. Instead, what has to happen is, the people they perceive as the enemy has to do so. Which makes them showing them their bodies, not only necessary for identification purposes but for belief purposes because Russian families are fed nothing but propaganda about ukrainians and won't believe them otherwise, most likely because their own government won't tell them their family member is dead.
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@mesolithicman164 That is not at all what they said. They wanted to let them know what was really happening. Yes. This shows them what is happening. They also needed to identify the body. And... Yes.. They react angry. They are being fed lies by their gov. That is the whole point of showing them. They are already doing that. Also... That is an understand initial reaction. It doesn't make it cruel or a bad idea for them to be doing that. Also... It's not "bad now". It's already a bloodbath. And... Once again.. their own government won't confirm the death of their loved ones or tell them about it. It should be their own government but they won't do it. So you have the people who you think are your enemy having to tell you about this. Because you think they're your enemy they have to show you it, to be believed and to identify. That is just what they are forced to do because the Russian government won't do it for their own people. They do so it regardless of consequence.
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@eliza1826 Well... The Taliban is a terrorist organization that treats their women like property and sex slaves. They breed terror. They would be doing it to do just that. In this situation, what we have is an invading Army, made up of largely conscripted soldiers forced to be there, Mass murdering Mass raping in Mast torturing the entirety of the Ukrainian people unwarranted... whose government doesn't have the common decency to even tell their families that they died, but somehow, the people they're doing all of this too, still has the decency to tell them. In the meantime, people in these families are being told all this propaganda about how Ukraine are monsters and Nazis and that's why they're over there Mass slaughtering people. So, you get a message from the Ukrainian government trying to inform you that your child has died in battle, are you going to believe it without any kind of proof? Because that's the situation we're in right now. You were trying to make it about anything but that.
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@marcor6769 You do your thing and I'll do mine... Thanks
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@marcor6769 Yeah... Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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@folaback46 1. If you have to identify the body, in order to start the natural grieving process, instead of waiting for god know how long wondering? The answer is, it's better than the alternative. Police have to do it all the time. Again... this should be the Russian government doing this. Except they refuse to because they keep lying to their citizens about what's going on. Instead, the literal ppl they are there torturing and murdering are left to do so in the only ways they can. 2. "Does this make sense if you are sane" 👈 this is what it's called a false dichotomy. It is used by people who are insecure about the argument they are making. It is an attempt to make their opinion be the only good choice and anything and everything else other than what they think as being "something bad". People who believe what they are saying do not feel the urge to employ this tactic. It's a tell.
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@folaback46 so why are you saying things you don't believe?
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@markwhein5395 Wow! You really need some attention, huh? Quite the massive inferiority complex you have there. You clearly had a s*** mom. Maybe you should take that out on here and not grieving families... Cuz all your doing here is showing everyone how sad you are.
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@kathrynmariani5825 So... You get sent a message from Ukraine, telling you that your son is dead, knowing the situation... Would you believe them without proof? That is why there are pictures. Ppl don't want to believe it. The IS military does it to.
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@rocketsalami8703 And you are getting that from where?
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@2CJ And now you are try to make this about me... Make assumptions about me... So you can justify making everything about you. The world does not revolve around you. You are simply a narcissist... Who needs to make everything about you. Get over yourself.
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@Dangbo3030 thank you, as well! ❤
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@rocketsalami8703 again, Isis is a terrorist organization. Given that title it's pretty much expected that day, you know, terrorize. Ukraine is being unwarrantedly invaded, having all of its citizens being tortured raped and murdered while the Russian government won't bother to tell these families that their children or brothers and sisters have died on the battlefield. They don't even try to retrieve their dead. Someday just throw in the mass Graves they've dug for the ukrainians that they executed. Yet, somehow the Ukrainian government and its people find it important to tell the families of these troops loved ones that they have died. Not the Russian government, Ukraine. The country they came to kill. So if it was really about just being crazy horrible to the families of dead soldiers, they wouldn't say boo about it. Date with them spend months and years wondering where their children are. What is a fate worse than death for any parent. Try using that logic and not just making assumptions about other people's motivations without anything to back it up.
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@mesolithicman164 So... You're a Russian family, hearing all this propaganda about ukrainians and how untrustworthy and nazi-esque they are and then you get an email from them telling you that their son had died in battle and that they have his body. You going to believe them without proof? Especially when your own government hasn't informed you of this?
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@mesolithicman164 Well... First... Don't present false assumptions your not prepared to back up. " probably an underestimation". There's no way you can qualify that. Don't just, on-the-fly, make stuff up to pad your point. And you really think it's the "policy" they are getting upset with? It's not the policy. It's the Dead family member. You think that these families would be less inclined to threaten to come and kill them if they didn't show them the picture, but, only said they died? How is informing a family that their child had just died in a war going to be popular, irregardless of how it happens? Come on now... that is not a thing you can measure popularity with. Their family is dead. Literally nobody is going to like that. Just because you keep trying to frame it as raising the ante, like these families have any control over what's going to happen with chemical weapons, doesn't mean it's actually true. Most of their children that are sent to die in these battles, are conscripted. They didn't even have the choice whether or not they could go. It's not like they're calling up the Kremlin and saying, "bomb those b******". Hell, we can't even do that in America. Like if my brother would have died in Iraq or Afghanistan, I couldn't have just called up the Pentagon and ordered an airstrike. That's not how that works... and we live in a democracy. This has nothing to do with me being naive or not. It's the fact that you are choosing to only look at part of the picture, and conveniently it's the part that confirms your preconceived notions. As for what you're putting for it, you are putting the entire onus on the Ukrainian people in government for trying to do the right thing and completely ignoring the Russian side, then trying to claim that your for lowering tensions. Do you maybe think that it would help to lower tensions if the actual Invaders did what they're supposed to do when inform these families in the first place? Or how about they just leave the country they're invading? You were using a completely one-sided point of view and trying to claim you're in the right. It's super easy to get there when you don't pay attention to all sides and all facts.
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@mesolithicman164 BTW... since you keep trying to claim that they said one thing about their goals, I took the time to literally quote them verbatim. "There are 2 goals. One is to show them there is a real war going on here. To fight against the Russian propaganda. To show them they're not as strong as they're shown on TV and Russians really are dying here. The second goal is to give them the opportunities to pick up the bodies in Ukraine."
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@mesolithicman164 Na! This is just about your ego, at this point. What you mean is YOU tend to round down. That has nothing to do with being naive. Yet again. That's just personal preference. Though that seems to be the negative connotation you wanted to subscribe to me because you can't prove your point in a mature and fact-based manner, using all relevant material. You tend to round down. Some round up. Some use basic math rounding, that can be up or down, depending on the remainder. You are attempting to speak for a whole bunch of ppl, bc you can't get out your own bubble. What's naive, is to think that everything operates all over the world the same way that it operates in America. And, in fact, I'm not avoiding anything. I'm just not buying into your baseless assumptions as to their reasoning and I'm using the actual quoted words that they used in order to explain the situation. It's naive to think that the numbers are what you want them to be because they fit the narrative you're trying to spin... actually, that's more arrogance, then naivete. He said it was around 80%. You're making the assumption that it's above with no basis for it other than your personal preference and your inability to see outside of the area you live in. You're doing so because what you're choosing to do is only see what fits your preconceived notions and you need to make assumptions in order to make that work. So, you can keep calling me naive all day long but I'm the one going by the stated facts and only the stated facts and you're the one making assumptions to fit your narrative.
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@mesolithicman164 your clear bias is also represented in the fact that you can't answer basic questions that I'm asking and keep avoiding any onus other than that of the Ukrainian people. What I find extremely naive is you thinking that anyone would get a good response to, "hey your kid is dead". Again, you cannot measure such things in popularity. Who's going to cheer ye my kids dead? 👈 More questions you will avoid on purpose.
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@mesolithicman164 I wouldn't like to see a picture of any of my family members dead. It's not because of the picture, though. It's because they're dead. It's the dead part. How are you not getting this? And you call me naive.
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@mesolithicman164 What we would need to know is if it is them.... No one wants to see it... They are dead. Nothing is good about that. Picture or not. I would need to make sure it was him. Instead of being in this endless state of wonder. That's the torture.
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@mesolithicman164 by the way, why do you refuse to address any of the onus on the Russian side?
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@mesolithicman164 if your child died, what you're suggesting is that you would totally be cool with it as long as you didn't have to see a picture of it?
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@mesolithicman164 It should have been... But everytime you tried to ignore it, it became less so. Then again... You make a whole bunch of assumptions for your own convenience.
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@mesolithicman164 well I guess that's what you get for thinking. Again, that's only a problem is you look at it in the very small box you keep trying to put it in instead of looking at all the facts related to it. And, again, literally nobody wants to see a dead body. Unfortunately sometimes that's what has to happen when your family dies. You trying to paint it as some kind of popularity contest, is crazy. They are a country right now with finite resources who is also trying to do the right thing that the Russian government chooses not to do with their own people. You heard them say they're using facial recognition software. They can't use fingerprints because they don't have anything to compare them to. Same with dental records. Ukrainian soldiers do not carry dog tags. Also dog tags are easy to slip on and off and are not always reliable. Also, Vladimir Putin doesn't need an excuse. He will clearly find whatever BS reason he needs to to do what he wants to do. That should be obvious by now.
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@mesolithicman164 If that thing involves telling you that your family member is dead, how well do you think that's going to go with or without the picture?
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@mesolithicman164 This is what I'm talking about. You ignore any info that doesn't fit your narrative... Bc its about your ego now.
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@mesolithicman164 You are putting this all on the picture and just completely ignore the fact that the people who they perceive as the enemy that their loved one went to go fight against comet has just informed them that their loved one is dead. With or without the picture how well do you think that's going to go? But sure... Keep putting it all on the picture. Cuz your narrative is what is really important here. 🙄
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@mesolithicman164 lol... There you go with those convenient assumptions again. But... Ya got one thing right... It's YOUR problem. One you are trying to project on to grieving families that you have never met, half way across the world... And it's only a "problem" bc you refuse to consider the full context of the situation. " that wants to bring all sorts of other issues into it" Really? So how is pointing out that they might be upset bc of the death of their loved one, as a whole, instead of the singular focus you appear to be obsessed with bringing, "all sorts of other issues into it"? It's the same issue. The families being notified of their loved ones death. You are trying to pretend you speak for these families emotional state, when you don't even know them. Are they upset? Absolutely. Their family just died. That tends to upset people. In none of those examples, including the 80% you seem so dead-set on referencing, does anyone suggest that they are upset about the photo, instead of their loved one dying at the hands of what they perceive to be the "enemy". You are making that up. You are making that assumption for them. You didn't make a point, so much as you made a bunch of baseless assumptions about anyone and everyone that might go against your chosen narrative. It's arrogant ego fluffing and making it all about yourself.
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@mesolithicman164 PERFECT EXAMPLE OF YOUR CHERRY PICKING! 👉 " even after saying you wouldn't want to see pictures of a family members dead body" Why did you cut off the sentence? Why not finish it? Because if you finish it your narrative evaporates. No one wants to see pictures of their dead loved ones. That should be obvious as hell. However, sometimes it's necessary. It's also a kindness that only people who have been through that kind of thing would understand. My brother got hurt in his first tour. His Commander stepped on an IUD and got blown up. My brother got out of the tank and went to go help. So did one other Soldier. That other soldiers stepped on another one and got blown up. Not more than five feet away from my brother. They had to fly him to England to have emergency surgery on his wrists and his neck. 2 years later his unit got sent to Afghanistan. Me and my brother are almost exactly 13 months apart. He's my only sibling... and we've been through some s*** together. So, needless to say, given his last tour, I was not super thrilled about him going back. By not super thrilled, I mean, I went through the largest out of insomnia I had ever had. I didn't sleep more than 10 minutes at a time for 10 days. They had to hospitalize me. I wish that would have been the end but he was still over there for another eight months. So families spend all that time holding their breath. Wondering when they're going to get the call or if they even will. Wondering every second of every day whether they're still alive or not. It's like a f***-up kind of purgatory. Which is why I know that knowing is way better than not knowing. Even if it means I have to identify his body. Which is a necessary evil sometimes. What would be cruel is leaving them to wonder. Putting that thought in their hands that their relatives may be dead but they don't really know because their government won't tell them a damn thing and so they have to sit there and try not to think about it every second of every day just to get through it. That's cruel. Identifying a loved one's remains it's not at all uncommon. It's not pleasant. It's not meant to be. It is what needs to happen sometimes because the alternative is worse. That's what you don't understand. Not because you don't understand but because you don't want to. Because this stopped being about any kind of point along time ago and became about your ego.
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@mesolithicman164 so you try to save face and run away. That's not at all surprising at this point.
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@russellspeed1693 You have an unhealthy obsession.
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