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Short Answer: The Russians expelled Germans from their homes just like the Nazi's did to Slavs
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Remember that not every German was a Nazi and very few even knew the Holocaust was happening. Most were just citizens that were expelled from their ancestral homes as a collective punishment for the crimes committed by the Nazis. Stalin killed more than Hitler, but I wouldn't recommend punishing the entire Russia population with war crimes.
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@joudan Poland and Lithuania don't want it. It would be like inviting the Crimea issue into their countries.
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@Slava22222 You are literally making the "he did it too" argument. You are endorsing war crimes against the Germans, because the Nazis committed war crimes.
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@Solaxe Not all Germans were Nazis. You wouldn't blame every Russia for the millions Stalin had killed?
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Lucius Cornelius Sulla What is wrong with you? You can't just deport a population who lived there for three generations just to return Europe to a pre-WW2 map.
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German's claim on Kaliningrad is legitimate as Russia's claim of Crimea.
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@ilijacvorovic1310 And Hitler was Austrian. Your point?
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@brandon9172 There wasn't a free press and the Nazis weren't telling their people about it, so how were the average German people supposed to know about the concentration camps? Information was so limited that most Germans assumed they were winning the war until bombs started falling on Berlin.
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@ilijacvorovic1310 You can't be diluted enough to think Stalin was just the leader of Georgia? Stalin was running the Russian government from within Moscow, and he was leader of Russian values at the time. In fact, Putin still praises him for his contributions to Russia.
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No wants a territory with a large Russian population. It is has always been assume (and later proven in Ukraine) that having a large Russian speaking population will give Russia a pretext to meddle in the country. That is why Germany, Lithuania, and Belarus don't want to touch Kaliningrad.
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@markolekic2504 I understand the outrage of the time, but that doesn't justify modern eyes from whitewashing this as anything other than a war crime that expelled millions from their homes. To put in perspective: The Ottomans did the same thing to their Armenian population, and it was called a genocide.
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@tylerbozinovski427 I'm not endorsing the deportations of Germans or saying the Germans don't have a right to return, but you can't just expell the Russian population for human rights violations that are 80 years old.
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@ilijacvorovic1310 The values of the day were anti-church, and Stalin was head of the movement. Also, the USSR was the Russian government and they only pretend that other Soviets had independence.
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Russians seem to endorse war crimes with the "two wrongs make a right" doctrine. "The Germans committed war crimes, so we justly committed war crimes against them. All hail Tsar Putin!"
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Because two wrongs make a right? It is okay to commit war crimes as long as the other side did?
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That claim is legitimate as Russia's claim of Crimea.
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@ilijacvorovic1310 You are either naive or delusional
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@markolekic2504 If someone murders a child, then do you murder their children? Or should we distribute justice in a way that doesn't target innocents?
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@markolekic2504 It is hard to look for the future when people like you cheer for Russian war crimes instead of taking the German approach of apologizing for them.
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It is like the Crimea comment section, but the Russian nationalist switched sides
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@Slava22222 Your believe every German knew about the Holocaust was because of letters sent home (which were read and censored before being sent) and possible rumors from sociopaths? It seems you are just assuming all Germans knew and supported the Holocaust to dehumanize them in order to justify your support of the war crimes against them. In addition, the Nuremberg trials did a good job of weeding out who knew what, and the conclusion was that most Germans were unaware of the gas chambers.
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@joudan Maybe in a post-Putin world, Russia could start to integrate with the EU and these borders won't matter as much.
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@MisterJovke After the Brexit disaster, the EU is actually more popular among Europeans.
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@MisterJovke Yet the Pro-EU parties have swept the last few elections
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@ilijacvorovic1310 True, but the Soviets didn't really care about the other ethnic groups
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@HannarrMontannarr To be fair, the Slavs weren't going to be allowed back if Germany won.
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@sisyphusvasilias3943 You are aware of how big the gulag system was and how many people died in them?
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@sisyphusvasilias3943 If the USSR was such a great place for non-Russians, then why did everyone except Russia and Kazakhstan immediately leave the USSR as soon as they could? The foreign aid sounds nice until you realize it was mostly sent to the dictators of North Korea, Cuba, and Afghanistan to cover-up the communists' mismanagement of the economy.
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@sisyphusvasilias3943 Don't forget that WW2 was started by BOTH Germany and the Soviet Union jointly invading Poland. The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact agreed to divide Eastern Europe through German and Soviet invasions, but then Hitler decide he didn't want to share.
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@borisbrosowski6630 They were already offered and they said no.
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@marcobiral2883 It depends what country you are from and what the new covid rules are. Americans shouldn't try, but Poland, Lithuania, North Korea should be able to get a visa in less than a week.
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@tylerbozinovski427 It depends what time period you are taking about. Poland/ Lithuania have the most fluid borders in European history. The two nations were constantly expanding and shrinking including German states taking their land and vice versa.
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@vlad_47 What is your point? The Soviets and Nazis plan a joint invasion of Poland, but the Soviets invasion doesn't count because the Germans sent their soldiers in first?
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@trizvanov The average Soviet citizens protested during the Colored Revolutions to leave the Soviet Union, and then the voters choose leaders that were anti-Moscow in the following elections. Also, not all ex-Soviet leaders enriched themselves like what happened in Russia and Ukraine.
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@trizvanov The handing over of $billions of state assets all at once to friends was the policy of Russia and Ukraine. Why do you think you almost never hear about oligarchs in Poland or Lithuania?
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@trizvanov It is too complex for me to go over in the comment section in much detail. Basically, Russia and Ukraine went from Communist to Capitalist overnight by giving away all the state assets to the "friends" of corrupt government officials. The ones who received all assets become the oligarchs who hold most of the countries' wealth. Most other former Soviet republics privatized in a slower and less corrupt manner, so they don't have as many issues with the oligarch class. This also means that it is unlikely that the Soviet republics all left the USSR as a get rich scheme like you implied.
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@vlad_47 This wasn't a hypothetical. This was a coordinated invasion that where both parties already decided how Poland would be split before the attacks even started.
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@vlad_47 There is plenty of documentation from Germany and later from the ex-Soviet countries that showed the Nazis were coordinating with the Soviets during their joint invasion. You can try to rewrite history, but the Soviet Union started WW2 alongside their Nazi allies.
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@vlad_47 The fact is that the Russians worked with the Nazis to take over Eastern Europe. The Soviet Union was happy to work with the Nazis until Hitler betrayed them. Then the Russians tried to rewrite history with themselves as the heroes, when the truth is they helped the Nazis and is just as responsible for the Battle of Poland that started WW2.
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@markolekic2504 In America, we constantly apologize about slavery and stealing from the natives, and those original victims are all dead. It seems in poor taste to celebrate war crimes that are only 80 years old.
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@markolekic2504 Most of the statues were taken down. They were put up to celebrate the soldiers fighting for their home state. Unfortunately, anyone outside the South find it difficult to view the soldiers separately from their home state's support of slavery.
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