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Or that she doesn’t trust marriage itself. Either way, it’s usually a death blow to any serious relationship where the proposer is concerned. Move on, she’s never going to be your wife…and you don’t want her to be if she isn’t willing to say yes.
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They thought they could avoid having to deal with unwanted attention by having the work of society chase those men away. They didn’t realize is that even the most attractive guy gets more “No’s” than “Yes’s”. So they wound up chasing all men away… which of course they never wanted. Oops.
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I was waiting for someone else to notice that bit of hypocrisy….
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She thought she could do better…then wanted to come back when she realized she couldn’t. Smart to tell her to keep it moving.
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Women are different. Some like big romantic gestures like this. Others are turned off and feel pressured by them. Gotta know the woman. I’d never offer a public proposal because I’m not the huge gesture type…and if that’s what you need, I’m not your guy….
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His point was to only fight as a last resort. It is better to maneuver your opponent into a position where he realizes that he cannot win, and then chooses to give you what you want. Men walking away from the table is showing women that they need men more than men need women…and that they don’t have the leverage they think they have.
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@Armywolves Those aren’t dating issues. Those are marriage issues. The problem is one of maturity. Women (as-a-group-dynamic) want the powers-and-privileges that go with agency and equality. But still demand to be protected from the responsibilities and consequences (for poor choices/irresponsible actions) that go with it. IOW, they want modernity and freedom when it solicits them. They want tradition and protection when it suits them…and feel that there should never be any negative consequences for what they do. They basically want to move through the world and be excused for adult responsibility, while keeping the adult freedoms. World doesn’t work that way, which is why the wheels are starting to fall off.
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Many women…sadly many of them are sisters… have no experience with what a healthy relationship is like. All they know is chaos, drama and dysfunction. The perceive that as “exciting”… and the comfort, consistency, and stability of healthy relationships as “boring”. They are literally selecting for character traits the lead to men treating them poorly…then cop an attitude when people try to point out that they are damaged and self-sabotaging. Shrug…. Sad.
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It happens. You just need to stand your ground and call out her self-absorption. When I was 18, I was trying to cross the street in a major city. No one waited at corners, you just dashed across when you felt you could do it without getting hit. So I turn to look into traffic to plan when to cross. Didn’t notice that this woman walked past me in the direction I was turning as I did so. She saw me turn, immediately assumed that I was checking her out (please..I was 18 and she was in her 30s…minimum). She shot me the NASTIEST look. I put up my hands and just said, “Lady, I’m just trying to cross the street… then crossed it. “ To her credit she had the good sense enough to be embarrassed by what she’d done. But I get it. Times have changed and many women these day are so broken that they wouldn’t even be embarrassed at having done that to someone.
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There are women who are high value. The problem is that they are rare and the competition for them is fierce. The rest are high-risk…and the level of risk (for investing in a relationship with them) goes up everyday. The key is to attract women, not pursue them ( let them keep complaining)…and how they approach you will generally get the high-risk ones to reveal themselves. Women don’t want to approach because it gives right-of-refusal to men…and a lot of them can’t handle that risk of rejection themselves.
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@Zero-s7k . Just depends on what problems you want to deal with. With younger women the risk is them lying and cheating. With older women the risk is lying, cheating….and all their unresolved issues.
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Agreed only with it being private. That way there is no pressure on her to say yes, and no humiliation for him if she says no. Like a trial lawyer, don’t ask the question if you don’t know what the answer will be.
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@Armywolves That’s my point. Women want the freedom and power that comes with agency and equality but not the stresses or responsibilities. When those crop up, they retreat into tradition and continue to expect men to shoulder those burdens, and shame you if you dare to question the hypocrisy.
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@shedparker Because they aren’t thinking. They are being driven by the instinct to find the best mate (genetically and status-wise) possible. Those instincts create emotions, and women act on those emotions. That’s where we guys run into trouble with women. We expect them to act rationally or on principle like men do…but low quality women don’t. Just like some men can’t discipline themselves to be loyal to one woman, some women can’t discipline that urge to be with the best male available and be loyal to one man. This woman either had a side dude like you said….or she either just will never submit to being married or sees this guy as a placeholder like I said. Which is why you never listen to what a woman says in this kind of setting. You watch and evaluate what she does.
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@uncletony3025 Then that’s on the guy. You don’t punish the world for the actions of one person. Learn from it. Deal with the feelings, and then get on with the rest of your life. Living well is the best revenge.
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In a misguided effort to be just like toxic men….. Sad.
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Agreed. An honest No is tough love. The humiliation had to sting, but she did what was in his best interests. She gave him what he needed instead of what he wanted.
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This is what happens when you put a woman on a pedestal. I would never discuss bedroom life in public, and would never allow her to discuss it in public in front of me. It the mark of a woman—a person—-with no class.
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@mademenchronicles2335 Because women have their own fears…and sometimes it’s not about not wanting to marry you, but not being able to handle being married. In my case I just had to move on with my life. She and I would have made a great married couple, but her fear could allow her to see it. Unlike the brother here, I knew that she couldn’t say yes, so I never put myself in position of being turned down. I saw her resistance whenever I raised the issue of marriage. But she did circle back a year later trying to see if the door was still open. It wasn’t.
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Unwanted sexual attention is part of adult life. If the guy took a photo, that’s one thing. But men walking by and taking a quick glance? Women…grow up an lean to deal with it. Setting and defending boundaries is part of being a grown up. Men have to do this with women as well. The best way to deal with it is to ignore it when you can. Defuse the situation with gentle humor where you can. Confront only as a last resort. But you don’t get to claim how “strong and independent” you are while insisting you be excused and protected for a significant part of life.
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IOW she doesn’t see you as the guy she’s going the distance with no matter what the reason is.
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@JB-pb9xv Agreed. He might have even done it that way to apply a bit of pressure to get her to say yes. If he did, then he got what he deserved.
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@mstwelvedeadlycyns Some women are so afraid of making the wrong choice that they can’t make any choice.
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@ahmadstaten7521 Hold my beer……
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True. But this isn’t as malicious as he thinks. Gen Xer here. There are two problems here. One: The sense of entitlement that many black women have towards black men is a long-standing problem. Many of them feel the world owes them a black man no matter how they show up. No matter how they treat those men. Some of the most publicly humiliating rejections I ever faced or saw others face were doled out by black women. Other men from other groups notice it too. The general lack of respect that black women treat all black men that they are not attracted to with. Two: the Internet. Most people who grew up online lack the social skills to cold approach a woman without scaring them off, or communicate interest to let a man know the wish to be approached. Things as simple as not running around in a herd if you want to be approached. Any guy who cares about the answer isn’t going to wade into a group of women to approach one. A: If he’s going to get shot down he doesn’t want it done in front of an audience who will likely turn it into a humiliating scene. B: If you approach the hot one in the group, the orbiters will likely get resentful and actively try to sabotage you by trashing you. To punish you for not picking them. It rarely ends well and smart guys avoid it. In short dating apps have allowed many to reach adulthood without having the social skills IRL to negotiate things that were readily done a generation ago.
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@extremebudgetgarage3216 I can make more money. Not worth living with someone who doesn’t respect you. My dignity is worth more than this.
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@ Everything in life is a risk. Even suiting at home on your couch watching YouTube. The issue is whether the risk vs benefit weighs out. With low-quality/low-functioning women? Nope: high-risk/low-reward. “Recreational Use Only”. …and even that is sus because of the risk of getting her pregnant (or her trying to baby trap you if you’re “husband material”) But for high-quality women? Every one I’ve run across is in a successful, long-term marriage. Why? Because high-quality==sound character. They have just enough of a masculine edge to their personality to discipline their emotions, manage their impulses, and operate according to principles. These are the women who won’t abandon their principle on a whim to chase a feeling. These are the women whose word and their commitments mean something to them. How do I know. I grew up in a household with one of them…and are friends with a number of them. They are RARE…but they are out there, and they get snatched up QUICKLY when they become available. Even they are still high risk, but they are also high reward. The problem is most men are either terrible at spotting them, or can’t flush out the ones pretending to be one.
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@ Funny how women never say or do this when other women start generalizing about men. It’s all men until it’s no men? If you aren’t part of the solution you are part of the problem? Convenient double standard…. Chivalry is an expression of patriarchy. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
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Or let someone buy insurance on something they don’t own.
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How to be a grifter…..
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@shedparker For real??
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@shedparker Agreed, “I don’t like that ring” is a lame excuse. She may not be cheating. I think she just sees this guy as a placeholder (so she doesn’t have to be alone) until the man she wants come along. I also think some sister just won’t ever get married. They just will never make themselves that vulnerable with a man. Especially the ones who hop from man to man and never deal with the baggage they collect on the way. But yeah, dude got a nasty wake-up call. Which is why you don’t do what he did and expose yourself to that kind of humiliation. If it were me, that relationship would be over.
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Agreed. She’s either telling you that she never wants to be married, or you’re just a placeholder until she finds the man she really wants. Because she doesn’t want to be alone.
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@johnstampp5726 It’s a romantic gesture. You’re showing her how much you value her by showing how vulnerable you are willing to make yourself before her. That she’s worth the humiliation should she say no. I’d never do that, but I understand why some men feel the need to do it. Most women will say yes. These women are doing these guys a favor by offering up an honest “no”.
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Yes. Thats what the wall is. There will always been men interested in having sex with her. But the number of men…and the quality of men…willing to commit to her declines. That’s what women struggle with. They have a hard time understanding that there is a difference between men wanting sex, and men offering relationship.
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One. She's broken. Two. Listen to your gut and your big head. There is something missing in her software, and you can tell. Its why red flags are so important.
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