Comments by "S S" (@SS-yj2le) on "Big Think"
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These tactics are actually the reason I don’t debate people anymore. Constant topic changing. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen anti-vaxxers and republicans do this. Having to try to continue arguing a point and never being able to finish if while they finish theirs in these gross simplistic approaches that also attempt to gas-light me. The twister is also constant as it is what creates so many annoying right wing strawmans. Making it harder to debate the point you want to debate. The wrangler isn’t that big of an issue as I could simply just create other solutions or prompt them and they can’t deny that it is fair. Though, it tells me that they don’t care about improving information though. For the lying, that happens mostly through people parroting points rather than actually lying themselves and the lies are always partial lies or lying by omission. I think politicians debating each other do this one the most. I will say that democrats definitely do these too and I’ve seen it numerous times as well. With gun violence, drugs, sometimes taxes, police violence, international relations in both politics and economics, and a few electoral political topics. But, I see it far more with republicans, conservatives, and certain libertarian types. I would say it is 4 times worst than the democrats, liberals, and social democratic groups at least. Especially as the left here at least uses science and will actually back off and utilize science itself. Though the left can represent science better as republicans accuse democrats of gas-lighting with this and have unjustly retaliated with their own forms of gas-lighting in other areas. For the anti-science ones like anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, anti-lockdowners, covid-19 deniers, flat-earthers, fake medicine people like those who claim marijuana can cure cancer, race-realists(also extremely racist), climate-change deniers, chem-trail conspiracy theorists, and numerous others, are even worst than the general right wing when only examining these positions alone(saying as right wingers and left wingers overlap with these). I would say they do these 16 times more than the lefties do. Topic changes happen even faster as they are also how they dot so many conspiracies. The lying is common as they parrot each other quite a bit and even themselves as they lack engagement with their own ideas. Though with that, it is lying by omission more. Twisting is extremely common. Flat earthers with “it’s photo-shopped, but, but, it has to be” and plenty of others. The wrangler is very common with them always claiming that the reason for this event can only be this wild theory. I can’t believe I wasted so much time debating these people.
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