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Comments by "Lawrence D’Oliveiro" (@lawrencedoliveiro9104) on "Systemd Introduces Userspace Reboots???" video.
6:53 This is one area where most *nix shells are deficient. I had a look at the “complete” system that was added to bash, but only because it was preventing me typing file names that I knew to be perfectly valid for those commands. So I just turned it all off. I remember some older systems that had more of the sort of thing we need. Back in the 1980s I used BTOS/CTOS for a while, and when you pressed RETURN on a command, you got a form to fill in that showed all the relevant options for that command. And then later Apple’s MPW development environment included “Commando”, that would pop up a nice GUI dialog in a similar fashion. Where do we get something like that now?
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The whole “do one thing, and do it well” is such a canard. Those small pieces never work without some quite big, monolithic pieces under them -- look at the size of a typical shell, the X11 server, the Linux kernel itself. systemd service files typify this: the power of systemd means you can register your service in just a few lines of configuration, as opposed to the lines of boilerplate needed in a sysvinit script.
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Sounds like Linux kexec.
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Did Windows ever figure out the pass-process-context-to-the-new-userspace thing?
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1:33 Actually, this is what containers (e.g. LXC) already do.
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That’s called a “warm boot”.
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It’s pretty neat, though, that you can pass open files and other process context from the old userland instance to the new one.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 Open Source is all about choice. Some of us want to do things our own way, others just want to concentrate on what they’re good at.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 It’s all about choice. Others want to set up systems that work best for them, you don’t agree, that’s your choice.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 Maybe you should stick to systems that don’t offer you a choice.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 You are the one trying to make it somehow personal and off-topic. All I did was point out the feature that the video was about. Who was the one trying to “hijack” what, again?
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@terrydaktyllus1320 Seems like you completely missed the point of the video. Maybe watch it again, and stop “whining” about being reminded of what this discussion is about.
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