Comments by "Mikko Rantalainen" (@MikkoRantalainen) on "" video.

Yeah, weird thing here in Finland you don't get the same sentence multiple times for repeated offence. As a Finn, I don't understand the logic but this same problem happens with other crimes, too. Basically when you do multiple crimes, you only sit in prison for the biggest single thing you did and you logically sit all the other crimes in parallel! So if you get 7 years for extorting mental health patients, it doesn't matter if you extorted 1 or 20000 people.
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I would argue that the act of extorting tens of thousands of people with mental health problems is all the evidence you ever need to diagnose psychopathic personality disorder. And unfortunately, there's no cure for psychopathy.
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It's just another example of his mental state. He's doing all that for LOLs only. When you're doing all the crimes for LOLs, wouldn't it be fun to have a fake identity card that says Hackerland and still not get caught for using it?
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@arthurlul Therapists were using digital database maintained by Vastaamo and the user interface that a therapist was seeing probably had proper TLS encryption for all the data transmissions in both ways. Unfortunately, the backend used to store the database was running on public internet with an open port and basically no password but that wasn't possible to know without trying to attack Vastaamo servers, which Kivimäki decided to do.
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He'll be on the streets after 3 years but if he does anything criminal after that, he'll go directly to prison for the rest of the sentence (6 years and 3 months) no questions asked. And the new crimes will add extra prison time, too.
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@jokuvaan5175 Do you think there should be different sentence if you kill 25 instead of a single person? The same issue with robberies. If you don't stack sentences, every robbery is practically risk free after you have done one robbery. That's not exactly the best incentive to avoid breaking law more.
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@jokuvaan5175 Yeah, I agree. I think if you put somebody for lifetime in prison, he or she can never repay for any damages caused. It would be better for the society to re-train them to be able to be part of society, get a job and repay some of the damage they caused. But that would require re-training and strong psychological support because just sitting in prison will definitely just make it harder to re-join the society.
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@doggoklaa6227 The judge did decide that Kivimäki was guilty for over 30000 crimes and still his total sentence was only 6 years and 3 months. Why do you think my claim was "blatantly false"?
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@xemriot I don't believe in "evil people". Human beings are intelligent and bad behavior is either because of emotional trauma or some kind of mental disorder. I see "evil people" as some kind of religious pseudo-explanation only. I would recommend watching TED talk with title "The most important lesson from 83,000 brain scans | Daniel Amen | TEDxOrangeCoast" here on YouTube. Ignore the content warning, it's just some YouTube nonsense. And I think "ASPD-PPD" is the official definition of psychopathic personality disorder.
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The best prison would have been Halden in Norway. I'd recommend watching YouTube video titled "The Norden - Nordic Prisons" to get some idea about most modern prisons in Nordic countries. The idea is not to punish but to rehabilitate the people put in the prison. That said, Kivimäki has probably both narcistic and psychopathic disorders so there's not much that can be done permanently. The best you can do is having lots of mental health support.
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Sounds interesting... Can you give hints about the source for this claim?
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The combination root:root might be acceptable for a dedicated system where the database only listens for localhost connections and the other part of the system talking to that localhost port is the gatekeeper for the actual data transmissions (e.g. some kind of pooling system such as MaxScale of MariaDB). However, if the maintainer of that system messes up and puts the raw database to publicly accessible port, all hell will brake lose, as was demonstrated in Vastaamo case. This is no different from some maintainers leaving ports open and using a firewall to prevent attacks and if the firewall ever fails for any reason, all the data is free to leak to public internet.
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At least Finnish news media reported 6 years and 3 months in April 2024. Where did you read about the 6 years 7 months sentence?
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@Liminal.Headspace I think the proper expression would be "it's designed to be pretty hard to get a Romanian citizenship". I would assume Kivimäki got an actual ID card via extortion or bribing some government official. This fake ID should definitely be investigated more.
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@snowy_gateaway7583 The only major restriction in Finnish prisons is internet access. For somebody that lives for internet publicity that might be a bit hard. Hopefully he gets proper mental health support for his own mind during the sentence because his mind seems seriously broken from the childhood.
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@luciel3893 Why put those people in the prison at all if your plan is not to re-educate those people to be sensible members of the society after release? The society pays 110–120 USD per day for each prisoner. And if you don't re-educate those prisoners, they will end up in prison again, after causing a lot of trouble to the society in the process. If paying $100 per day to those people to stay out of criminal activity would keep them away from criminal activity, it would be a cheaper option for the society!
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