Comments by "Madam Vaudelune" (@madamvaudelune3298) on "CBN News" channel.

@douglasrasmussen480 If you are not a Christian you have no dog in this hunt This argument is concerned with what is, or is NOT, Christian doctrine. If you have no use for the Church, then go your way. But this question is our business, not your business. There is no Christianity without the Bible. The UMC wants the name of Christian because it is respectable, but without obedience you are a country club with stained glass windows nothing more.
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@douglasrasmussen480 No one claimed that religious faith makes you do good things. That is your claim alone. And your writing is still adolescent, Style requires application and judgement not faith. You have neither
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@douglasrasmussen480 ? I cannot engage in a meaningful exchange of ideas with an op whose rabid bigotry is so obvious. The only reason I am responding is for the benefit of those on the thread who might give you attention for being 'rational.'. Your hostility and hatred are palpable. The very premise behind attacking people of faith is disturbed. No one compels you to believe. We make this choice of our own free will. You invade this thread with the express purpose of spreading hatred. This is rational?
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@douglasrasmussen480 Useless to whom? Not the millions we feed, educate house and treat medically every year.
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@douglasrasmussen480 That only works if you have shown respect and civility. You haven't. You have only shown that electronic communication devices in the hands of children contribute less than would meaningful labor or appropriate leisure activities. You need parental supervision.
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@douglasrasmussen480 You have a right to eat glass and sleep in a dumpster too, but why? Would any of these activities make your life better?
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@douglasrasmussen480 Nobody is referencing rational thought ust useless behavior.
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@douglasrasmussen480 That is like saying ' you must not have seen the videos where "x" people try to convince "y" people of "g". When you draw categories where you have pigeonholed and categorized people using only popular culture and mass media opinions as a means of identification, you have already made it impossible for me to answer. The Roman Catholic Church is not fundamentalist. Nor is the Bible our only source of information for spiritual illumination. Our authors, writers, on every conceivable discipline go back to CE 175, when Irenaeus of Lyon put together the ecclesiastical canon for the NT. Having access to material going that far back, I really don't watch a lot of videos claiming to 'educate' me.
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@douglasrasmussen480 Especially since I used no apologetics. I have not indulged in ANY defense of my beliefs. Why would I? It's obvious that your nonsensical rant is a series of slogans, tiresome repeated chants, weary catch phrases and zero original thought. Apologetics? Where? You obviously struggle with simple definitions. An apologist offers a defense, I have not. It's not that you aren't being civil, you just aren't being anything that isn't derivative. Come up with your own argument, I will come up with apologetics.
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@douglasrasmussen480 Then don't read it. No one obliges you to serve God, is there a law that says you have to attend church. Why do care about what we do?
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@AaronBailey-uw7lg So how do you square the fact that Paul converted the Ephesians, Corinthians, Cretans, Greeks, etc.and never made use of ANY of the Old Testament? I've got news for you, these Gentile converts wouldn't hear about Moses until about 300 years after Paul's death. They wouldn't have any knowledge about the 10 or any other old Testament commandments for three centuries, at LEAST. Why would GENTILES know anything about Jewish law? Paul did not preach Judaism, Jewish customs or traditions to the people of the Eastern Roman Empire. And yet they were baptized and made Christan. just as much as those in Jerusalem who HAD been Jews.
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@gregorybaynham1122 The Roman faith and EVERY Protestant faith accepts the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. The only ones who don't are fringe questionable "churches " such as SDA, Mormon, Christian Science and Jehovah's witness.
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 @douglasrasmussen480 This is not your conversation to have! If you are an atheist go your way! If you are trying to be a Christian and banish the Bible go be a Buddhist or something!
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@douglasrasmussen480 To what purpose? If you had some useful goal, some contribution or even the desire to educate you would be correct. But it seems ridiculous that an adult human being, capable of understanding that those here CONCUR with the Christian ideal would take you seriously. You are the YT thread version of a flasher. Someone who exposes himself with no other reason than a fleeting sense of power unleashed on the unexpecting for no other reason than a cheap and fleeting need for attention. This is the result of a stunted and infantile ego, and I am sorry Daddy never paid attention to you. We freely admit that we believe as an act of faith. We are a species that worships, no one here is compelling you to do so. If you choose to join a forum on the existence of the Almighty there are literally THOUSANDS on YT but this argument has had nothing added or subtracted to it since ancient Greece.
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@douglasrasmussen480 You need to brush up on your reading skills. Like most atheists, your irrational hostility towards other adults who freely believe what they please affects the "rationality" you think you have. Those activities are a WASTE OF TIME, not a reference to faith or lack thereof. Your ignorance is reflected in the fact that you believe all Christians are fundamentalist. Neither Catholics nor Orthodox are so. Protestant ministers can have NO formal education at all, our priests have the equivalent of a doctorate. The fact that you actually are wasting your time on a thread where you have nothing to gain is indicative that you have emotional issues regarding those of us who find comfort in our faith. I have no interest in what you believe. Why do you care about what I believe? You aren't educating anyone. People on this thread are basically adult , literate and long established in their faith. You have a pathetic need to be heard by strangers, nothing else. Apparently whatever friends you have have long tired of your boring rant.
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@douglasrasmussen480 well I have answered you twice but my posts keep getting dumped . Pitt.
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@douglasrasmussen480 useless to whom,? So far it has been useful to many. It has founded universities, hospitals, places to care for the aged and orphaned, etc. The RCC delivers more aid, food, medicine and shelter as the largest distributor of charity outside of any government. Atheists provide nothing without power or influence as a reward. The strongest admonition in our dogma is care for the poor.
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@douglasrasmussen480 You must be a child. You are assuming that all Christians are fundamentalists. Roman Catholics are not. Nor are Orthodox nor Coptic. If you know nothing about us why do you make up facts to suit your own argument? That isn't how it works.
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@douglasrasmussen480 Did I claim that we do this because we are religious? Or to gain favor with God? It is you making this connection, not me. Our church does these things But there is no connection between being virtuous or good and worshipping God. Jesus Himself discusess this at length. My mind is doing fine but it's not my minds job to stop you from making ignorant assumptions.
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@douglasrasmussen480 in simple words that you can understand, so what? Why do you care? No one compels you to attend a church or believe as we do? You are no different than any other bigot. You have nothing better to do than shop around YT for something to hate? Make your own life better. If your life were good, you would simply say, ' I honor your choices as different from mine, and hope that you respect mine.' When people cannot do that, they are merely looking for an outlet for their aggression and they don't have the ⚽⚽s to pick a fight IRL. YOU are an adolescent. Atheism is the acne of intellectual growth.
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@KarenMcGee-ti8pr Christianity is not a numbers game. Three faithful Christians out of 10k who live in the worldly way isa majority with God.
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@douglasrasmussen480 So you don't like to be suppressed. That would be most people. Are we forcing you to do something? No one is obliged to worship God by any force on this Earth. Why do you care what we do? When you say "I'm an atheist" we know where you stand, right? Is anyone forcing you to believe or attend services,? I don't comment on threads involving deep sea fishing, BLM, polyamory or BDSM lifestyle. I have no interest in how these groups live their lives, what drives them, I don't comment on their threads to tell them how to live their lives, criticize, tell them what I think of them...why in the actual freak would they care ? Can you imagine the comments from people if I told them what you tell us? Do you see where I am going with this?
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@douglasrasmussen480 And you are entitled to your opinion. Previous generations of children raised in church by loving parents have acquired a moral compass, compassion, noble character, a devotion to family, society which eventually fosters becoming a faithful mate, a loving parent and a man whose filial piety preserves and nurtures his parents in their old age. You have opinions. I stand upon a social structure literally THOUSANDS of years in the making upon which the entirety of Western Civilization stands. The institutions founded by the Christian faith- universities hospitals, homes for the aged and inform, the libraries, are ALL based upon the concept of benevolence and charity made manifest in the person of Christ. The most iconic, the most beautiful and sublime works of music, sculpture and painting, the works of Michaelangelo, Raphael, Cellini, Pergolesi, Allegro,, without the Church as mentor and buyer would never be. You stand on the last 80 years of human history, an prodigious time for science and technology indeed, and claim what? That this has made us more human? Given us peace? Brought happiness? The best you can claim is that we now enjoy our misery and loneliness in hygienic comfort. As to YT being a less than perfect forum I agree, but certainly not defective to the point that you do not deign to use it for that purpose. I am in fact a shy and retiring woman and public debate is better left to the bold, YT must suffice.
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@douglasrasmussen480 This process of inculcation, as you call it, is responsible for the transmission of values centred on the person of the Christ and has been the central factor sustaining Western Civilization. You must not have my years or you would have known two prior generation of doctors, teachers, community leaders of every type whose faith, both public and private, sustained and anchored the greatest generation our country has produced. You haven't the benefit of having known people of faith who have raised men and women of vision, whose dedication to the wellbeing of family and community have their roots in faith. And I don't just reference my own church, I happen to be RC but churches as well as synagogues and temples across the nation established a society conducive to public and private well being. Going back even further, nearly every benevolent institution- EVERY great European houses of learning, hospitals, orphanages,, shelters established for the aged and infirm. Only am enemy of peace and prosperity would deny the societal need for religious expression. Actor Russel Brandt, a recent convert to Catholicism put it neatly, " we are a species that worships." Only the past 80 years, a pathetic tic of the clock for the human race, scarcely a movement of the second hand, have tried to deny this. And this has been a time of prodigious technological progress. Has this progress made us happier? Less lonely? More inclined to relieve the burden of the weary? If anything we can now enjoy our misery and loneliness hygienically. The therapist has taken the place of the confessor, the internet the place of community, and we buy buybuy, unable to fill our stomachs with enough food, when a little bread eaten in the company of a friend give satiety and joy. Promiscuity and gratuitous display takes the place of love, when in other days the spouses of many years loved tenderly, cherishing the unstained bed and the aging body as proof of faithful love. This 'inculcation' as you call it paved the ground for civilized humanity, back as far as history will take you, the voice of man's inner self called out beyond his own existence and lifts him above simple nature BECAUSE we are 'the species that worships.' .
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@douglasrasmussen480 I have answered you twice, and my replies are instantly deleted. I am sorry
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@douglasrasmussen480 I will try once more to answer you. I have no idea why my replies are deleted. You must not have my years or you would remember entire communities anchored deeply in the Abrahamic faiths. Children of former generations were guided, taught and educated based on principles exemplified by the Christ. This system brought forth men who fell at Verdun and Normandy and women in whose hands and hearts lay the responsibility for teaching the values and skills necessary to preserve civilization. The domestic arts are those taken for granted by so many, but these are the difference between a barracks or squat and a comfortable home. Having been raised by people who did not know or care, I envied my friends the sweet comfortable peace of their homes. Doctors, attorneys, accountants, teachers, caroenters, people from every walk of life were 'indoctrinated' into the faith of their fathers. The result was peace, stability, neighbors who would befriend and help in any need, close-knit communities, school where children learned skills that would assist them in the acquisition of gainful employment, elders treated with pious respect due to their gray heads, mother's and fathers faithful and devoted to each other and their families. No 'baby mamas' and "baby daddies," but ever-present, attentive, dedicated role models. Was it so in every home? Not in mine certainly , but this was the standard accepted by the educated and skilled labor. It would seem that this dreadful indoctrination had a stabilizing effect on their lives. Technology and it's wonders are late comers. Yes, we can only wonder at the progress made in medicine, in communication. But has it made us happier? Safer? In fact, this present generation is the first that is not expected to live as long as their parents. Abuse of Food, drink, substances, sheer boredom and lack of any true examples of peaceful and productive cohabitation . There is no sense of dedication or devotion, and the ideal seems to be a 25k wedding that lasts a year. The best we have, it seems, is the ability to enjoy our misery and loneliness in hygienic comfort. What does you faithless world model offer in lieu of the civilization we once had?
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@douglasrasmussen480 I tried again to answer you but I do not know why it will not post. I said no obscene or disrespectful thing.
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. We in the RCC are going thru the same misery. His Holiness has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel, at the most he has 5 more years to a pontificate that will not be fondly remembered except by the Rainbow crowd.
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@reallysomebody Trump is not a minister nor does he have ANY say-so over Biblical translation. TDS everywhere.
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@nancyobrien2854 Leftists have to say something mega stupid so we know who they are. No MAGA Republican ever claimed that nor has T.ever claimed that for himself. But we like the fact that leftist self-identity as 84 IQ.
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@fnotesemay3803 Yes he QUOTES the OT but he does not TEACH OT laws that Jews considered essential to Judaism. Be aware that when he does quote the OT he clarifies what he is saying ( for example about marriage) because these peoples are not familiar nor would the be for 300 years know he quotes Homer and Menander . If you are going to issue a correction it should be supported. In Rome Paul uses the OT BECAUSE HE IS ADDRESSING THE JEWS OF Rome. There was a huge population of Jews in Rome but I am specifically discussing the Ephesians, Galatians Cretans, Corinthians etc. The OT and would not be known to them for about 300 years and that did not concern Paul. He wasn't trying for them to be Jews first or 'grafted unto Israel' etc.why would he? I am a Gentile. I have no Hebrew ancestry. The OT was not given to me OR my people. Prior to the preaching of Paul, of Moses Isaiah or any other, the Egyptians had very similar moral views.We know this by inscriptions. "Hear oh Gods my plea...I Kagammi clothed the naked. I fed the hungry. I protected the orphan. I took no bribe in my duties..." ( tomb of Vizier Kagammi ( circa 2745 BCE). The code of Hammurabi, the Sudras of Buddhism read similarly. Paul knew very well that no civilization however primitive could survive without common sense logic laws that benefitted the law-abiding and preserved peace and civil order. His mission was the propagation of CHRIST. Reinventing the wheel wasn't necessary. Dietary law, circumcision, wearing phylacteries etc. did not concern Paul in the least. Jesus was his concern. It is alright to issue a correction, but if you are going to be rude ( and there is no need to be) then back up your argument with examples.
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@gregorybaynham1122 What makes you disagree with the doctrine of the Trinity? Roman Catholics, Orthodox and nearly every Protestant sect accepts this dogma.
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Time will tell. There is only one way to rectify the situation now.
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