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@PopularesVox The only fool here is YOU. Because you, like many others, refuse to acknowledge the root cause of this war, and many other wars, all inflicted singlehandedly by the US/West, and yet you believe my country, the country who suffered tremendously at the hands of Western imperialism and aggression for hundreds of years, being corrupt. No, the only countries who are corrupt and crooked are the Western countries, you sadly lost your freedom and sovereignty long ago because you allowed these death worshiping people to rule your countries, which makes you a culprit of their evil deeds. I feel sorry for you, that you are brainwashed by your hateful media to turn black into white and wrong into right, that they hide truth from you and prevent you from thinking critically. What you have ever been told about China is all false I can guarantee you, and Russia also. The West has no right to impose its way of life on China and Russia, and we absolutely have a right to resist and fight for our freedom, true freedom unlike the fake one you have in the West. And people like you who support Western imperialism clearly have zero principles and souls. And once again, if the West is trying to break a part of China away and use it as a platform to supress China's rightful development to improve its people's lives, they will be met with deadly retaliation. So mind your own business is my best advice to you.
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@mikecavallaro466 Go back read what I wrote, nowhere I have spoken for any nation in the region, I am merely stating the sentiment expressed by the concerned countries, and do check a map of the islands in the SCS, many islands are actually claimed and controlled by other countries, not China, you are under the false impression that China wants to claim and control ALL the islands there as per your media lied to you. NO country in the region would like to take clear side with the US/West on the matter because they understand the agenda of the US, and they ALL want to be on good terms with China, this is just a fact despite your ignorance of it. The US' presence contributes nothing positive to the region, but that is what your intention is, stirring up tensions in the regions to contain China.
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@drbuckley1 But the reality is the US/West is too intertwined with China economically and while the MIC would benefit from this fear as it basically controls the Western governments, however Western capitalists want to benefit from China's rise, the potential benefits are just too great to forgo despite their equally urgent need to contain China, Western capitalists also have no problem jumping off a sinking boat as shown how they have abandoned their own labour forces for bigger profits. My point is if the West would ''strangle and kill'' China, it would also ''strangle and kill'' itself in the process, remember, the world has pretty much been running through institutions and rules set up by the West in the past 100 year or so, China is busying developing its own sets of systems, like internationalising Yuan, own space station with only Chinese language command on board, its own computer and mobile operation systems and so on. If the West wants to be isolated from these systems that could soon be implemented by many countries in the developing world, then they should continue banning Chinese companies as they have been doing, and when one day China will be completely self reliant on its own system and technology, the West will have no choice but to join the Chinese system or facing isolation from the rest of the world.
I don't think the US/West is that stupid, war with China is too risky because they have too much too lose.
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@mikecavallaro466 It doesn't matter what people like you believe what China will do or not do to Taiwan, Taiwan is not going to float away, time is on China's side, Taiwan will never declare independence, because the US would not allow it, it is merely a chessboard, it is powerless, Taiwan's economy depends on the Mainland a great deal and all Taiwan's supply of resources could be switched off instantly if China wants to, the question is if the US is so committed to protect Taiwan it should have done something about it, why wait for China to get even stronger? What is the US afraid of? Would the US go to war with China over Taiwan, I don't think so.
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@agentorange6085 LOL, before I could respond to you, you need to review your historical knowledge of China, I know you have been brainwashed by your Western media and school textbooks with the false versions of Chinese history, but there is no point to even debate with you further if you outright claim that Hong Kong, a territory which the British handed back to China in 1997, was not a part of China historically, then why did the British return it back to China? The British robbed off Hong Kong after it bombed China's shores because China was preventing them from forcing tons and tons of opium down the the Chinese throats!
Just in case you are too lazy to read history books, let me put the record straight for you. Hong Kong was a part of China since Qin dynasty from 2nd century BC. Some islands and their territory waters in the South China Sea were part of China since the Ming dynasty from 1300s. Taiwan was made an official province of Qing China in early 1600s with early migration to the island starting from the 1300s. Tibet was a part of China since mid 1200s when it was incorporated into the Yuan dynasty during the Mongol rule, and FYI, Tibet was liberated by the PLA more than 70 years ago from Western imperialists who were occupying part of it.
I know your job is to spread false anti China narrative online, but at least do it better and also get a better username, don't make it too obvious, and up your history knowledge as well, otherwise it is very hard to take you seriously.
Lastly words are cheap, don't wait until China becomes too strong to get rid of it, if this is your ultimate goal, then what are you waiting for, why don't you start now? As if you and your words matter one tiny bit, LOL. And one more piece of very important information for you: The Chinese communist party enjoys a overwhelming 90% support of the Chinese people, that is the kind of support any Western government would dream of. And good luck rallying the Chinese to be on the side of the Western imperialists. They have fought them off before and they will do it again if they have to.
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Did you know China and India were responsible for producing more than half of all world GDP exporting products on high demand to the West long before the West became fully industrialised? Did you know that a big part of the reason why the US approached China at the end of the 70s was because the US wanted China to help to win the cold war with USSR? It is boring to read Westerners keep saying China's success was largely the result of direct Western investments, because this is a superbly ignorant claim, and it shows your serious lack of understanding of China and its history. China does NOT feel that it is entitled to global leadership as it is never China's aim you believe it or not, China in fact would never want to replace the position of the US and would be happy to continue seeing the US as the world superpower, because it actually could benefit a great deal from it and China also knows how costly it is to be in the position of the ''world police''.
I am Chinese, so how I understand what China is doing is this: it is testing the Americans to see what its bottom lines are, to find out what the US' core interests are at the moment, would economical interests and benefits by continue to work and invest China greater than the need to contain China? The US will have to strike a balance, China wants to see how far would the US go to contain China, and how far would it still fancy to work with China, in my opinion, unfortunately, the US economy and population needs China now more than ever, and without China's help in supplying cheap goods and buying the US debts, your president could lose the election, so hence China's confidence, the confidence comes from the current economical strength rather than sense of entitlement, the later is a Western concept, China plays the long game, and would never get overly cocky for no good reason. And I can assure you China would never fall into this ''trap'', China still needs stability for its economical growth because this is the condition for its long term development, China has been patient for many many decades and there is no reason to change.
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@simonbeck3701 LOL, as if the West has recognised and obeyed the international law this whole time. The West is maintaining the ''rule of law'' only if it suits its geopolitical interests, stop making it sound like they have been a force for good, you invaded and occupied countries and killed millions in the name of freedom, human rights and democracy, but anyone with half of brain knows it is all about robbing resources from a country where its own people could have enjoyed them and maintaining a geopolitical advantage in a particular region.
It is even more laughable to claim China is an expansionist, when the West is the true expansionist with all of its ''new territories'' created by expansionism or imperialism at a horrific human cost to the indigenous people. The US is the country that has 800+ military bases all around the world, not China. None of the Western countries has any claim over any of the islands in the South CHINA Sea, but insists to intervene purely to demonstrate its hegemonic rule by military aggression. You are not there to defend the ''rule of the sea'', you are there to create trouble for China and divisions between the countries in that region which is not welcomed, several countries who hold claims over that area of the sea have clearly expressed this. But that is what the West is good at, stirring up tension and conflicts wherever they go and make these regions unstable and weak so they could dominate. But the West is a diminishing power now and could not even win a war with a country like Afghanistan, but if the West insists to provoke for another war, then I hope they are ready as China today is no longer the one that was suffering badly under the oppressive Western imperialism centuries ago, and the world has had quite enough of the hegemonic domination of the West.
China does not own the South China Sea, but owns some of the islands and its territory waters and their ownership began before the West even became a relevant power. If the West has not continuously threaten the security of that region of the sea, then there wouldn't be a need to develop and improve military facilities on these islands, The West does not belong to that region, but it could not see that region thrive in peace because it could not accept a world of equal powers and multilateralism.
And about the UK, it is quite shameless, for once an opium smuggling country who committed mass murder and sufferings of Chinese to think it represents a force for good, it is only there to show as if it is still relevant as a former imperialist power, it is one of the very few Western countries who is stupid enough to risk its relationship with China only to go along with US, a current imperialist empire with their last attempts to maintain their hegemonic rule before they will be completely abandoned by the rest of the world, which make up the vast majority of the world population.
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@bruce3195 I like when you conveniently missed out the genocides of millions of Muslims that the West has been committing in all its illegal wars in the Middle East for the past 20 years, and the genocide that is happening right now in Yemen which the West supports and provides arms for. The whole world knows the US and the UK invaded Iraq over lies and completely destroyed that country, killing at least 500,000 innocent civilians and left many more homeless and disabled. It it not whataboutism, it is a war crime the West never wants to talk about and be held accountable hence Julian Assange is in prison tortured and silenced. The UK stole Hong Kong away after failing to force tons more drugs down Chinese people's throat, while it never gave Hong Kong democracy during its 150 years rule and now hypocritically claims that it cares about people's democracy there, after its return, China gave the Hong Kong people's right to choose their own leader instead of getting a white man sent over by the British monarch that treat the people like second class citizen.
The ''history'' you learned about China in the West are the propagated version based on lies and ideology bias, ''Tiananmen square massacre'' is a complete lie based on lies and hearsay, which was revealed later on by both student leaders and foreign diplomats and journalists who were on the square, they admitted either lying or have only reported on hearsay, leaked US diplomatic cables also confirmed that the US government had always known there has never been a massacre taken place on the square.
The land of Xinjiang was a part of China since 2nd century BC, Tibet was a part of China in the mid 13 century as well as Mongolia which both formed parts of the Mongol empire. They didn't join so called China, they were conquered and ruled by various of ethnicities which are still members of China's 56 ethnic groups of today. Your history of China is so shallow and written from a Western lens, it showed through.
The ''genocide'' in Xinjiang is a baseless lie as well purely propagated by the West for the purpose to contain China, what actually happened was China was dealing with the terrorism that was funded and created by the West to destabilize that region and sabotage China's one belt one route project.
The West has no say in how China would control its own territory sovereignty, not until it stops bullying other defenceless nations with military aggression and using underhanded means to overthrew foreign governments so to control them, the West has zero moral high ground to stand on to lecture China, mind your own business and maybe just maybe learn how to respect other countries' sovereignty by not invading them first? It is far too hard isn't it!
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@bruce3195 For the West to send groups of military ships to the sea where they have no claim is certainly very peaceful way to solve a problem, you are repeating what Western propaganda media is feeding you, China is the threat, China is trying to control, China is supressing... they never told you the other nations invaded and illegally occupy many of the islands that China owned historically and well recorded in historical documents since ancient times, the West will never tell you that, because like you, they are not interested in the past, they are there to contain China's rise, creating conflicts and divisions in that region.
What ''agreement'' that you think China is not fulfilling to the UK over Hong Kong? This is anther propaganda lie your government fed you, Hong Kong was handed over to China in 1997, and all the ''agreement'' to the UK throughout the handover period has been fulfilled in the so called joint declaration which is only valid for the handing over, after the hand over, the Basic Law is what was set out about China's ''promise'' to Hong Kong and there is no item in the ''Basic law'' that China has broken, there is no mention in it of any universal suffrage to Hong Kong people, it is stated loud and clear the leaders of Hong Kong is through selection by the central government and Hong Kong ought to make law to ensure its regional national security and territory sovereignty which it failed to do since its return and therefore the central government has made up that gap. So stop lying about the UK's hypocritical claims, it is only meddling in Hong Kong because it follows the order of the US, creating trouble for China, creating instability in Hong Kong to contain China.
Yes, surprise surprise you are brainwashed by Western propaganda, tons of it. If I wasn't on the square to see it with my own eyes, I would have bought the lies about Tiananmen, the West's propaganda machine is very powerful and successful sadly. There is not a single footage of the so called massacre on the square, none, because it never happened, the Tank man never suffered a scratch either, he walked away helped by a friend, that part of the video never shown to you by the Western media. The West is full of lies, if I have not lived in both China and the West I would have never known the truths.
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@alanhenderson6497 You don't have to believe me, but as a Chinese person who understand very well of what is happening in China, I can actually tell you that the majority of the Mainland Chinese and part of Taiwan population wants to unify by force asap, yes, just look at the comment sections of many Chinese language YouTube Channels on the Taiwan topic, that is if you could read Chinese, something the Western media would never tell you. The Chinese government is supressing this sentiment and obviously you know why. The Chinese government might not run like the Western governments with so called one person one vote, which strictly speaking it is not actually the case for many so called Western democratic countries, public opinions in China nevertheless matters to the government in power, and the Chinese government's legitimacy could be at stake if they could not handle the Taiwan issue properly. I think you would recognise that China is a capable country and it has its redlines when it comes to its sovereignty, so the West needs to measure up carefully when it comes to intervening with China's affairs, because like I said I believe no one wants to be in WW3.
And funny anyone speaks for China would always be seen as promoting China's interests as if it is not legitimate thing to do, I am just telling you the perspective from China, truth don't care about opinions, as a Chinese why wouldn't I defend my country's rightful interests, somehow that is seen as wrong or nationalist, this is a totally Western mentality, the overwhelming majority of Chinese support their government, that is another thing the Western media would never tell its people.
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@alanhenderson6497 Lol, there is no such thing as Chinese state sponsored spies or bots spreading misinformation, I can tell you they are just people like me, wanted to give you accounts of truth or narrative from the Chinese perspective, but you will make your own mind up.
And finally, I can't help but to find your logic quite laughable, so the RN went to China's shore to exercise its harmless freedom of navigation, then China had an reaction for no good reason, and the UK then ''defend'' itself at China's shore using all necessary means, I am sorry how is that ''defending'' the UK while you are thousands of miles away from your own territory and while China has not offend you militarily in your own territory beforehand, unless you think the world is yours then again I think we did talk about the UK is no longer an empire no more.
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@alanhenderson6497 You just spread almost all Western anti China talking points in your comment, most are unsubstantiated bs fed to you by your government's mouth piece media, I thought you are reasonable and able to think critically, but you are just another brainwashed Westerner, China is not a threat, the West is, China hasn't started wars after wars, the West did, if the West and people like you insist to make China the enemy, then you will get one, so the question is are you prepared to end the world, that is what it means to have a all out confrontation with China, if not, the best thing is to work with China by respecting it first, stop making China the enemy and accepting its peaceful not "rise" but return to it former position as it has been in history, an ancient civilization of 5000 years history, nothing and no one could stop China from rightfully maintaining its rightful interests for itself and improving its people's lives. The West cannot and will not contain China in order to continue its hegemonic rule. The Chinese has never and will never submit to the racist imperialistic rule of the West.
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@alanhenderson6497 BTW, don't wait until Taiwan to stop trade, tell your government to stop trading with China now, do it, let's see what happens, your government lied to you, your capitalists don't care about you, they sold out your country's industries for greed and profit, like I said, ask your country to pull out all its businesses and stop exporting goods to China NOW, see what will happen, they rely on China for many things, but if China lost the West for trade, they still has the rest of the world, the majority of the world's population to trade with, if you think it is that easy to "kill" China, you are just having a wild dream, wake up from your white supremacy imperialistic dream already, this is the 21st century, not the 1800s. China is a fully industrialised country with biggest population in the world, if it is that easy to "kill" China, why hasn't the West done it already, what are they waiting for?
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@alanhenderson6497 LOL, the lamest threats I have seen from anyone, it is not illegal to access western sites from China, millions do it everyday all day long, I have also reported you for hate speech and harrasment. You still have not explain why your account is only registered 2 months ago, unless you are a CIA bot, but one thing is for sure you support the supremacist hegemonic rule of the West, but hopefully it will go down with history soon, but of course dragging everyone with them, I am glad you are not afraid, neither am I.
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@thucduyen9592 Exactly, Vietnam and many other South East Asian countries all have had their fair share of imperialism and wars, no one in their right mind would want to pick a clear side with the West, especially not now, because in a way China's peaceful rise represents the rise of the whole Asia, we are standing up tall and proud as Asians and us Asians everywhere in the world should be respected more and feel more pride. Yes, the other thing is the West could invade and occupy a foreign country but they could never control the heart and mind of the people because it is clear they never attempt to understand and respect that country's culture and people. Yes Vietnam shares many similar culture and values with China, and as we have seen how hard you people fought the US, we understand and respect that fighting sprit, Vietnam, like China just wants to be an independent and sovereign nation and treated with respect.
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