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There is still this sentiment from some within China that perhaps China should continue Deng's ''Hide your strength, bide your time (or keep a low profile)” diplomatic policy. Problem is that China can no longer hide its industrial capabilities and its strength in tech advancements, and since the US is determined to undermine China's economic progress, China might as well showcase what it is really capable of now and into the future. America should focus on improving its competitiveness instead of trying to politicize everything China related (banning TikTok, semiconductors bans), because in doing so, it undermines its neoliberal capitalistic values such as free market, free trade, respecting private property rights and so on, as we can see, when it comes to China, all these can be thrown out of the window, and meanwhile, China is open for cooperation and fair competition.
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As a Chinese, the US can forget about colour revolution regime change in China, the West tried this in 1989 in Beijing, and 2019 in Hong Kong, the funny thing is the Hong Kong riots has achieved the total opposite effect onto the Chinese, not only it let the Chinese see though the West's ugly intention (not a regime change of only the government but more like destabilising China so the Chinese will have a poorer life which no Chinese would allow that to happen), it also let them understand much better what 1989 was all about: a colour revolution. Chinese people are no fools, only the US government is fantasizing that if they try hard enough eventually the Chinese will submit to their rule. The Chinese never did, they fought hard against it and they will continue to do so, so like I said, the US can forget about imposing its will on China.
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Lol, good luck to these Uyghurs in the UK to keep their cultures, there are tons of evidence the Uyghur culture is well preserved and thriving in China, but I am sorry the UK is not known to be a society that value minority cultures and customs despite of its promotion of ''multicultural values'', most British people are ignorant of other cultures or only have shallow understandings of other cultures thanks to its education systems and media, minority languages are hardly represented anywhere in public, and remember Brexit, it was a campaign filled with xenophobia and racism, it is most hypocritical for the BBC to insinuate that somehow the UK could do better than China in preserving the Uyghur culture, I have not seen a single piece of report/documentary/news article mentioning the Uyghurs and their culture in the 20 plus years I lived in the UK, only until recent years when they are used to push out this ''genocide'' narrative. I also have seen hardly any report about any other ethnic cultures of any people in the world in the 20 years unless it is about something negative, that is the UK for you.
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The Three Communiqués or Three Joint Communiqués (Chinese: 三个联合公报) are a collection of three joint statements made by the governments of the United States and the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Communiqu%C3%A9s
The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, summarizes the landmark dialogue begun by President Richard Nixon and Premier Zhou Enlai during February 1972. Some of the issues addressed in this communiqué include the two sides' views on Vietnam, the Korean Peninsula, India and Pakistan and the Kashmir region, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue (i.e., Taiwan's political status). Essentially, both sides agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China".
The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announces the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China. In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region.
The third and final communiqué (August 17, 1982), also known as August 17th communiqué, reaffirms the desire of both sides to further strengthen economic, cultural, educational, scientific, and technological ties. Both sides also reaffirmed the statements made about the Taiwan issue in the previous communiqué. Although no definitive conclusions were reached on the issue of arms sale to Taiwan, the United States did declare its intent to gradually decrease its sale of arms to Taiwan.
A declassified cable sent on July 10, 1982 from Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger to AIT director James R. Lilley explained that reducing arms sales to Taiwan would be contingent on the commitment of the PRC to a peace across the Taiwan Strait.[2] Afterwards, the US unilaterally complemented the third communique by issuing the Six Assurances to Taiwan.
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There is never an official timetable set for the reunification of Taiwan by China, despite the increasing sentiment of reunification by force asap from many Chinese people in both Mainland and Taiwan. China is only getting economically and militarily stronger by the day, the longer China waits the more advantages it has in successfully taking back Taiwan. But, for a rapidly declining US, time is running out on its ability to successfully preventing China from reuniting with Taiwan, and of course it wants to take every opportunity to benefit from the tension it stirs up in the region. But, shortsighted America does not realise, once they played the Taiwan card, i.e. recognising Taiwan independence will inevitably trigger a forceful reunification, China's sovereignty over Taiwan is a non negotiable non compromising matter, supported by the Chinese constitution and anti secession law, and will be fought at any cost.
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The US desperately seeks excuses to sanction China, however the sanctions would eventually fail as with Russia and backfire massively. If China is forced to take Taiwan back by force (this would only happen if the US breaks the ''One China Policy'', i.e. recognises Taiwan independence and establishes official diplomatic relations with it), it would still have the support of most non Western countries, as they recognise and follow the ''One China Policy''. China/the Chinese government can not afford to lose a war fought on China's shore and lose territory, but what will happen to the US hegemony if the US loses it, again (I know the Americans have a short memory that they don't remember they lost the Korean war to the Chinese). One thing is for sure, China is not going to drag the war on, it will be quick and decisive, everything in the way will be destroyed. China has been preparing for this for years, is the US ready?
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It is quite sad and shocking to hear your 76 year old mother needed a gun in order to feel safe, as a Chinese I found the idea of having to possess a gun to feel safe utterly incomprehensible and frankly insane, it is quite clear that there is something very wrong in the American society today that really needed to be addressed and changed, I was just talking to my husband who is an European about the fact that I, a Chinese, was never brought up to hate the West or America, even though my grandfather fought in the Korean war against the West and I of course am very proud of what they did for us so we Chinese could live in a peaceful and prosperous China today, but despite that, Chinese people have always had healthy admiration and respect to the West and the US, however more and more, Americans are brought up to hate China and/or Chinese people, thanks to their politicians and media, and more and more Chinese are developing dislike or hate towards America as well, this has to stop! This does no good to anyone and produce no benefits to any country, I really wish China and the US could just work together it will be a win win for both countries and win for the whole world too.
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@roberthealey7238 ''All previous iterations of low cost workers worked hard as well; where do you think the US got its wealth from?'' No one here is denying the fact that American/European workers had worked hard, however a lot of the wealth/investments transferred into the US were collected (many occasions looted) through brutal European colonialization/aggression/slavery around the world. The US invested (not doing charity) in China in the late 70s for its own material and monetary gains (taking advantages of the competitive and well trained Chinese labour) plus the US was seeking to get China on its side to help winning the Cold War against Soviet Union at the time. Quite different circumstances.
''China will now have its wealth taken away by other Asian countries and Africa, joining the long line of history of nations that lost their wealth due to out of control greed and arrogance. China was already starting to lose manufacturing to India, Vietnam and even Mexico before the plague hit.'' This is not quite the case. The US/West wished they could decouple with China this easily, but the simple reality is that they have not been able to. In fact, many of these low end manufacturing facilities across Asia have been set up by Chinese business owners (partly to avoid US economic sanctions: the US just don't seem to want people of the developing world to live a better life), and because China still has the complete supply chain in place, many of these businesses find it hard to operate, plus infrastructures and labour quality is very poor in countries such as India. It will take a long while before China is replaced in this regard. China still provides the most favourable business environment for Western investments, hence more have come to invest despite all the anti China rhetoric. And another point is most Chinese youth would NOT want to work in manufacturings anymore, therefore, it won't be such a loss when some will eventually be moved abroad. And the Chinese have already been investing in Africa, Latin America, South East Asia, etc... That has always been China's goal, to lead the economic development of the entire global south so they could be free from Western economic domination (based on greed and exploitation).
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@colindant3410 I am not sure you understand what truly happened in Hong Kong, because what has been reflected through the Western media was largely one sided, if you had witnessed on the ground of what really happened (all the horrendous things took place that were deliberately hidden by your MSM: people got set on fire and burnt alive for speaking against the rioters, beaten up just for speaking Chinese Mandarin rather than Cantonese, beaten up for singing the Chinese national anthem, police officers had molotov cocktails thrown at them trying to burn them alive... I have evidence the rioters were supported by the Western governments' agencies). You would know that it was clearly the West who disrespected the people of Hong Kong by using them as tools for the purpose of creating instabilities in China both economically and politically (yes, it was a colour revolution). In fact, the US slapped economic sanctions on Hong Kong after the ''peaceful protests'' so that the people of Hong Kong would suffer.
Hey, do you think that the US/West could respect the way of life of the people of Taiwan by first giving them a choice? I think not. Because if they did, they would first acknowledge the fact that majority of the population in Taiwan do NOT support independence/separatism, which is against the agenda of the current Taiwan government and their supportive Western powers. Yeah, and if you respected the people of Taiwan, you would agree that what the US/West has been doing by pushing Taiwan closer to conflicts, wars and even potential death and destruction will be to the detriment of the people there. How is that respecting the way of life of the people of Taiwan when you literally want to turn their home into a warzone?
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Taiwan has been an official province of (Qing) China since 1684. 95% of Taiwan's population are of Han Chinese origin migrated from the Mainland (southeastern coastal regions) as early as 6th century. It was ceded to the Japanese in 1895 (as a part of an unequal treaty) after China lost the First Sino-Japanese War/aggression to the imperialist Japan. In 1945 after Japan surrendered unconditionally having lost WW2, it returned Taiwan to the Nationalist government of China (Republic of China era 1912-1949). The US/Western powers backed Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) and its remnant forces retreated to the Isle of Taiwan (a Chinese territory) in 1949 after losing a series of civil wars to the Communist Party forces on the Mainland. Taiwan's official name today is still Republic of China, which its constitution states that both the Isle of Taiwan and the Mainland are its sovereign territories.
In 1979 when the US established its formal diplomatic relations with China, issues regarding to the political status of Taiwan were addressed in the ''Three Communiqués'', the foundation of US - China diplomatic relationship. The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, stated that, ''both sides (US and China) agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all CHINESE on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China". The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announced the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged that Taiwan is part of China. In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region.
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@mikeyrose4183 First of all, have I understood correctly that you live in China? And you have been dealing with the Chinese business people from Mainland China? I agree with you to a certain extend that there is such ''ethnocentrism'' in the Chinese mentality, both based on the fact that China has a long history and rich culture, (yes they consider themselves wise and well civilised people perhaps more than people from most other cultures) and also as I said they know they are smart at business, by the way, being smart at business often means not being nice likable people, it means being ruthless and cold a lot of the times, yes business competitions are tough, the Chinese learned this since very young, how to out compete among thousands, hundreds of thousands of school kids to reach the top universities they aim to get to, it is often their only way up in transforming their lives. This culture is unique to the Chinese. And yes, some see foreigners as ''inferior'', and guess what some see Whites as inferior too, but most of the time this is not based on race, this is more to do with the economic status of the country where these people are from, there is this ''I care more dealing with people from ''rich'' countries, and less with people from less developed countries'' way of thinking, but again, I feel your experience is not representative of all Chinese (business) people, or you have not truly understand what the Chinese people are all about, there are A LOT of cultural differences, many of which some Westerners could never get use to, nevertheless, most Chinese people are actually very friendly and welcoming of people of other cultures and races. To generalise a whole nation of people is itself narrow minded.
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@kubhlaikhan2015 ''In the first place the British do NOT take great pride in the days of empire'' Public opinion surveys carried out both in recent years and the past paint a contradicting picture of the sentiment, but I guess you are allowed to deny them instead pretend to speak on behalf of the majority of your population.
''we are probably the most self deprecating and least jingoistic people on the planet.'' I am not sure about that, btw where are your protests against the Ukraine war? Since your government has been known to be very active on sabotaging the peace prospect of this conflict, you surely would object such uncharacteristic representation of your ''least'' jingoistic population, lol. Again, where are all the protests?
''Ordinary people reaped no rewards from empire, only hardship.'' They might have been overcharged by their merchants but nevertheless contributed to the huge demands of foreign imports, hence the booming businesses with China (and India), that eventually drove a trade deficit with these countries so high, they have to resort to selling opium basically, as a payment for Chinese goods. I am pretty sure the people then were aware of the existence of such immoral trade, or were they lied to as they have been today?
''As regards the "Opium War" in particular - opium did not have the negative connotations it does today. The ravages of today's heroin trade allow it to be portrayed as something far worse than it actually was.'' Again, this is not true, it was officially against the Chinese law to trade and consume opium and possibly illegal too in Britain, the British were fully aware of this Chinese law, oh yes they also knew very well the drug's harmful effects on people, In fact the Chinese emperor wrote to the Queen repeatedly to beg her basically to stop killing the Chinese people, but all were ignored, the British clearly chose profit over morality.
''The medicinal and recreational uses of opium do NOT lead automatically into depravity but in any case the Emperor's motives were not about the effects of opium but on the state of China's balance of trade.'' Lol, first I like here when you speak on behalf of the voiceless Chinese people, who themselves, their families and society all suffered at the hands of the British illegal drug trade. This is like essentially a drug dealer telling the drug addicts to not to worry about the ill effects just so that they can continue to profit from immorality. As I already mentioned in my last paragraph, the Chinese emperor wrote to the British state several times to ask Britain to stop trading this very harmful drug to poison its people, because he and his local officials witnessed the devastation of the drug trade caused, but here you repeat the same narrative as this secondary school materials, insist the British were all about trade... clearly they had no morals, and you are here defending it, what does that make you?
''The imbalance was preventing them minting more gold and silver coins which they needed in order to suppress revolts.'' This is total nonsense. The Chinese had been having a trade surplus with Britain, it was the British who was running out of gold and silver to pay for Chinese goods, hence Britain resorted to forcefully trade opium to balance its trade deficit, btw, what revolts are you speaking of in this case? To be vague or just make up some non existent ''revolts'' won't do I am afraid. The fact of the matter was very simple, the British opium trade was illegal and immoral with devastating effect on the Chinese and their normal trade, Chinese government had to take action to stop it - destroying opium at all cost - to save its people and country.
Your narrative is the same as the secondary school material I mentioned in my OP, a pathetic attempt to whitewash British Empire's crimes. But you can only fool yourself you can't fool the people who ever suffered from British colonialism, especially when you try to do so by twisting truth or even outright lie as you did here. Best action you can take is to learn properly from your past and make sure it won't be repeated. You are a living proof of how your educational system have failed you on this.
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Taiwan has been an official province of (Qing) China since 1684. 95% of Taiwan's population are of Han Chinese origin migrated from the Mainland (southeastern coastal regions) as early as 6th century. It was ceded to the Japanese in 1895 (as a part of an unequal treaty) after China lost the First Sino-Japanese War/aggression to the imperialist Japan. In 1945 after Japan surrendered unconditionally having lost WW2, it returned Taiwan to the Nationalist government of China (Republic of China era 1912-1949). The US/Western powers backed Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) and its remnant forces retreated to the Isle of Taiwan (a Chinese territory) in 1949 after losing a series of civil wars to the Communist Party forces on the Mainland. Taiwan's official name today is still Republic of China, which its constitution states that both the Isle of Taiwan and the Mainland are its sovereign territories.
In 1979 when the US established its formal diplomatic relations with China, issues regarding to the political status of Taiwan were addressed in the ''Three Communiqués'', the foundation of US - China diplomatic relationship. The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, stated that, ''both sides (US and China) agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all CHINESE on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China". The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announced the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged that Taiwan is part of China. In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region.
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@rsuriyop Because most of them are idiots (I am talking about the illegal ones), yes, I know you are not going to take this explanation seriously, but that is the truth. Most of them have no idea about life in the West and they blame the Chinese government/system for their own misfortune in China, many regret after they arrive in the West, many actually come back after the bad decision. About the legal ones, I don't actually think there are that MANY these days, btw, they are free to go and live wherever they want, doesn't mean they will have a better life than in China, often many don't.
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@willhall4037 Originally, I meant the Western political authority for the most part but also I am afraid to say a good percentage of population in the West, just my observation having lived in the West myself for many years, not a generalization. I am sorry if you find this offensive, but I still hold my opinion the same. You see I have a good reason for calling you projecting, because while you see yourselves being ''slaves'' and your government does not represent your interests, we Chinese don't see it that way, because the current Chinese government in power came from the poor therefore, at least in theory they work FOR the interests of their people. I reject, as a Chinese the Western concept of separating Chinese government from the Chinese people and of course reject implying the Chinese population as ''slaves'' of their government, but I am not stupid, I understand where you way of thinking coming from, but I am just telling you in my way how the Chinese see their government NOT the same as how you see your government. So just to repeat, we Chinese people are for the most part on the same side as the government, unlike some people in the West.
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@joesalazar770 Hold on a second, the US didn't "give" (out of charitable heart) China so much in return for cheap labour, it INVESTED in China for its own material and monetary gains (taking advantage of the competitive and quality Chinese labour). And China's, specifically Deng's reform and opening up economic policy allowed this to happen at a time when the US seeked China's help in defeating Russia in the cold war. I just hate when you people claim this "America built China" nonsense, this idea is racist as far as I am concerned. And it was your corrupt corporations controlled politicians deindustrialised America, not the other way round, and that is what was and still is wrong with your country, don't blame China for it. Again, I stress, it was China's own economic policy put China where it is, not the US.
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@jackvue722 ''Let me ask you, are Uyghurs ethnic Chinese? By saying Chinese is a singular ethnicity, you suggest there is only one group, the Han.'' Go read my previous reply, I already answered you, you seem insistent wanting to put words in my mouth. As you've been too lazy to read, here, ''So ''Chinese'' (中华民族) is a cultural identity composed of multiple ethnicities within the same nation state, but it IS still an ethnicity (collectively), just not in the same context as how the word is used in the West.'' In fact you've actually confirmed my comment by stating ''The Communist Party of China not only strengthened the identity and publicity of [a] “Chinese nation,” but also recognized that “China is a multi-ethnic country and Chinese nation is a joint name of all ethnic groups within Chinese Territory”...''
I think 民族 translated as nationality is inaccurate in the context for China, 民族 usually means ethnicity, i.e 少数民族 (ethnic minority). Again, to say the PRC is a multi-national (instead of multi-ethnic) state created jointly by the people of all its ''nationalities'' give people a false impression that there are several independent nations within China, which is not the case.
A rebellion or revolution partly fueled by ''Han chauvinism'' due to the increasing dissatisfaction of the Manchu rule is not representative enough to suggest this sentiment has been running in the mainstream throughout Chinese history. Explain how ROC was a Han chauvinist state?? Where the founding father of the ROC Sun Zhongshan was the one who came up with the idea of including all (major) ethnic groups into the big Chinese collective identity. ''The recognition of Manchus, Mongolians, Hui, and Tibetans was done to maintain territorial integrity.'' Incorrect. The recognition of these groups is just to stress their equal importance in the national identity and promote unity among all groups. ''unlike the Kuomintang and Chiang Kai-shek that hold that there is only one ethnic group in China (the Han).'' Again, this contradicts with Sun Zhongshan's ethnic policy.
''it is necessary to combat big-nation chauvinism, mainly Han chauvinism, and to combat local national chauvinism.'' This is clearly meant for all ethnic groups in China, but of course, Han being the majority ethnic group, it would be more likely to have a Han chauvinist movement... But in reality, as I said, the so called Han chauvinism has never become the mainstream sentiment in any form both historically and since the founding of the New China.
I repeat, ''Chinese'' is a collective cultural and ethnic identity made up by all its 56 ethnic groups, I don't know why you have a problem with that.
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@billyehh The ''population crisis'' you are repeating is an anti China talking point.
''Although China's population growth rate has entered negative territory, its current population has reached its peak between 1.41 billion and 1.42 billion. As a matter of fact, the population will still be more than 1.4 billion in 2035 and over 1.3 billion in 2050. Furthermore, although the working-age population is declining, the supply of labor is still abundant. For instance, China's working-age population aged 16 to 59 was 880 million in 2020 and could be 820 million in 2035. And even if its working-age population declines to 650 million in 2050, it will still be more than the combined working-age population of developed countries. The number of people aged 60 or above will peak in 2054 to reach 520 million. However, the proportion of the people aged 60 to 69, who are in the early stage of aging, in the total elderly population will decline from 55.8 percent in 2020 to 40.9 percent in 2050.''
''Experts' take on China’s aging population'' by Yuan Xin, professor of demography at the Nankai University in Tianjin (Article from China Daily, 2023-05-24)
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@jackvue722 Absolutely NOT Jack. When I say Chinese is an ethnicity it absolutely does NOT mean ''Han (people)''. That is what you wrongly interpret, and which probably comes from the projection of the Western idea of ''Han'' supremacy (as equivalent to White/Anglo supremacy), which doesn't exist in China. If you go read my comment again, you will find I said, I quote here again, ''the Chinese culture is built on multiple (ethnic) cultural identities/influences over its thousands of years of history. China is a true multicultural/multi-ethnic society.'' So ''Chinese'' (中华民族) is a cultural identity composed of multiple ethnicities within the same nation state, but it IS still an ethnicity (collectively), just not in the same context as how the word is used in the West.
Your "the Chinese people of all nationalities", is not accurate, there are ethnic minority autonomous regions, but no independent nations within China. And these ethnic minority population are obviously Chinese citizens possessing the Chinese nationality.
And fyi, there has never been ''Han chauvinism'' at any point in the Chinese history, so it is ridiculous to suggest that this idea has been included in the Chinese constitution. In fact, multiple lengthy Chinese dynasties have been ruled by ethnic minorities, where has there been that so called Han chauvinism?? And I am sure you don't think there is still some kind of Han purity after 5000 years...
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@FisherGrubb OK so you want to live in an individualistic society, China is not stopping you, you shouldn't worry about the Chinese people either, because they might not think like you and they are capable of thinking for themselves too, they have their priority and concerns that are different from yours, China is not implementing their systems in your society, then you shouldn't force your way of living/thinking upon them, so all good, you are I have to say a typical Westerner that thinks everyone in the world ought to think like you because you know better than them, but do you? And you shouldn't compare the Soviet to China, because what do they have in common? Certainly not as much as you think if not very very little. China is NOT the West.
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@CamMac-kd1ou No, you are wrong, do you realize how utterly ignorant you are to suggest most Chinese leave China because of CCP or lack of opportunity, total complete nonsense, Chinese people leave China for the same reason others around the world leave their home country, yes, for thousands of reasons, and many many Chinese people go to the West to study and travel every year and guess what, the vast majority of them return to their homeland after. I have a right of choice of where I live and the Chinese government has never infringed this right of mine.
Your logic is flawed, you think anyone left their home country must automatically hate their homeland, but NO, just ask any of the one million foreigners who live in China if they all hate their home country, the answer will be obviously not, and not because I live in the West, then I have to agree with everything that is happening in that country, same as people who live in China. You need to grow up and hopefully grow a brain then you will be able to think like a grown up for once, lol.
BTW, I am planing to go back to China soon as the UK is rapidly becoming a third world country filled with far right racist media brainwashing its people, and don't you worry I can't wait to go back to China.
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To Europe and other Western countries: Just do like what China did, don't try to be smart and hubristic, don't use the ideology, economic and cultural differences excuses, the method of complete lock down, thorough testing, contact tracing, enforced isolating worked very well in China, it would work in the West too. China now is facing huge risks of second wave infections from the ''back flow'' cases from abroad especially these irresponsible ''herd immunity'' Western countries, all the efforts and sacrifices the Chinese made could be jeopardised it is so frustrating, if you want a relatively short and sweet stamping down of the virus, just copy China and it can be done! PS: WEAR MASKS!!!
Edit: funny ''Youtube'' try to hide my message, I wonder why, is it part of the plan of the West to push the herd immunity project?
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@jerrywright5411 Not anywhere in my comment I indicated the ''China win, West lose'' mantra, the ''zero sum game'' is the US/West's speciality. China does ''win-win'' cooperation, it is happy to work with any country that treats China with respect and as an equal. And back in the 1900s how do you think the poor and working class Chinese got their lands back? Through revolution, led by the Communist Party of China, with most of its founding members from the poor and lived under the capitalists/Western imperialists suppression and exploitation. France did the same, the US fought for independence from the British Monarchy as you mentioned.
While I understand your frustration about the sad situation the West has been in in recent years, and yes I sympathize with ordinary Americans/Europeans who suffer from your corrupt leadership, but ultimately, as a citizen of the West, you ARE responsible for where the US/West is heading. And equally, same for us the Chinese, we are responsible for the direction China is going. China is heading towards the right direction, that is how I see it. It therefore inevitably will do better than the West, and China totally deserves it. And if you Americans want the same for your country as you say you grew up thinking you were superior and wanted to be seen as such, then the answer is do something to make this happen, yeah make America great again, something like that. Otherwise, like I said, accept reality and move on.
I, as a Chinese, have a right to be angry at the US/West, millions of my people suffered and died at the hands of Western aggression and colonization, and they now deserve to live a better life, but the West wants to ruin it, just because it wants to hold on onto their power and domination, it wants China for be its slaves forever. And we say NO. But the West wants to drag down everyone with it as it goes down itself, that include you ordinary Americans. So again, I repeat, it will be up to you people in the West to allow your countries to be ruined by the ''elites''. And lastly, I want you to know, these ''elites'' are NOT in control of the Chinese government nor they are influential enough to change any policy that will determine the level of progress and direction China is heading. I am very hopeful for my country.
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@PopularesVox The only fool here is YOU. Because you, like many others, refuse to acknowledge the root cause of this war, and many other wars, all inflicted singlehandedly by the US/West, and yet you believe my country, the country who suffered tremendously at the hands of Western imperialism and aggression for hundreds of years, being corrupt. No, the only countries who are corrupt and crooked are the Western countries, you sadly lost your freedom and sovereignty long ago because you allowed these death worshiping people to rule your countries, which makes you a culprit of their evil deeds. I feel sorry for you, that you are brainwashed by your hateful media to turn black into white and wrong into right, that they hide truth from you and prevent you from thinking critically. What you have ever been told about China is all false I can guarantee you, and Russia also. The West has no right to impose its way of life on China and Russia, and we absolutely have a right to resist and fight for our freedom, true freedom unlike the fake one you have in the West. And people like you who support Western imperialism clearly have zero principles and souls. And once again, if the West is trying to break a part of China away and use it as a platform to supress China's rightful development to improve its people's lives, they will be met with deadly retaliation. So mind your own business is my best advice to you.
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@robsmit1265 Your comments show your moronic logic and stupidity, you said, ''Chinese people eat dogs'', then the Chinese would say they don't. No, they would say a minority of Chinese people eat dogs, personally I don't know anyone who eat dogs. But when you say Chinese people are obsessed with Americans, this is simply not true, because MOST Chinese don't care about Americans and what is going on in America, they care about their own everyday life first, this is just a fact. The truth is your government, your politicians, your news media can not talk about anything without mentioning China while China is simply minding its own business. Another typical ignorant American thinking you are the center of the universe. LOL.
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@mikecavallaro466 Go back read what I wrote, nowhere I have spoken for any nation in the region, I am merely stating the sentiment expressed by the concerned countries, and do check a map of the islands in the SCS, many islands are actually claimed and controlled by other countries, not China, you are under the false impression that China wants to claim and control ALL the islands there as per your media lied to you. NO country in the region would like to take clear side with the US/West on the matter because they understand the agenda of the US, and they ALL want to be on good terms with China, this is just a fact despite your ignorance of it. The US' presence contributes nothing positive to the region, but that is what your intention is, stirring up tensions in the regions to contain China.
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@drbuckley1 But the reality is the US/West is too intertwined with China economically and while the MIC would benefit from this fear as it basically controls the Western governments, however Western capitalists want to benefit from China's rise, the potential benefits are just too great to forgo despite their equally urgent need to contain China, Western capitalists also have no problem jumping off a sinking boat as shown how they have abandoned their own labour forces for bigger profits. My point is if the West would ''strangle and kill'' China, it would also ''strangle and kill'' itself in the process, remember, the world has pretty much been running through institutions and rules set up by the West in the past 100 year or so, China is busying developing its own sets of systems, like internationalising Yuan, own space station with only Chinese language command on board, its own computer and mobile operation systems and so on. If the West wants to be isolated from these systems that could soon be implemented by many countries in the developing world, then they should continue banning Chinese companies as they have been doing, and when one day China will be completely self reliant on its own system and technology, the West will have no choice but to join the Chinese system or facing isolation from the rest of the world.
I don't think the US/West is that stupid, war with China is too risky because they have too much too lose.
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@1239Elc Since you are interested in China, I shall waste some time with you (I've seen and dealt with too many Westerners like you...)
First, you consider videos/perspectives on this channel lack nuance, and portraying China in a ''fantasized'' way. But being objectively positive about China based on facts are NOT fantasizing China, you would only think that because you are conditioned to think about China this way, due to the overwhelmingly negative coverage of China (a lot of lies and misinformation too) from your mainstream media, and from many anti China channels here on YouTube. No, China is not perfect (no country is), China has its issues, some are the same ones as the West faces. The difference is that this channel and many other channels like this one provide you a perspective from Westerners who have (had) traveled, done business, lived/are still living in China, the perspective that is rarely presented in Western media, and guess what, some of their experiences are extremely positive and they are not afraid to speak about it. But does it mean they like everything about China, of course not, anyone with half of a brain knows this. Same as my comment, it is my own perspective, you might not agree, you might consider it lacks nuance, but it is based on my own experience, if you don't like it, it is your problem.
Anyway, advice to you for the future is to offer arguments that can be substantialized with facts rather than slapping an emotional response, like ''oh China is all good like an angel'' which I have never said in the first place. No, China is not without any problem, the West is not all doom and gloom, but China is doing better than the West on many respects that the West can learn a lot from China. Finally, if you want to learn the real China, try remove your bias and preconception and best yet, go to China and see it for yourself.
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@nigelralphmurphy2852 You, I guess claim to be a real historian, your statements, although contain SOME known facts and some seemingly objective interpretations, I am afraid is still a biased narrative, very much favouring the British perspective. Yes, it is important to learn the actual facts related to the events but even more importantly is to know the different perspectives/interpretations that were risen from those facts. Seems to me you have little understanding of the Chinese perspective, I gather much of your ''facts'' come from English language materials written by ''historians'' from the English speaking world. And this makes quite a lot of difference on how facts were interpreted and how you see things.
I am not a historian full stop but I think I am well educated on all facts I need to know on the matter, I also know well of the Chinese perspective (based on facts) on these historical events, their significance on China's recent history and effects on the Chinese' psychic. The most important point I want to make is the fact that China and Chinese people had suffered badly from British colonialism and imperialism, no amount of minimisation will brush that away, ever.
Now lets look at what you said... or rather lets expose all the holes in your story.
''The decision to go to war in 1839 was passed by only nine votes.'' ''Opium sales were done in Guangzhou and were a partnership between Cantonese businessmen and companies like Jardines, and both parties profited handsomely. There was no trade with "China." The trade was with the Cantonese businessmen in Guangzhou.''
While ''votes'' to go to war with China (the state) were passed by the British parliament, yet you said the British state was NOT actually trading with ''China'' (the state), so who did Britain go to war with and on whose behalf - with some Cantonese businessmen and on behalf of some private British merchants?? The fact was the merchants WERE dealing on behalf of the interests of the British state, hence when its interests suffered damage (after large quantities of opium got destroyed by the Chinese government), it went to war with China. In other words, the British state officially sanctioned the ILLEGAL opium trade as well as benefitted massively from the profit of this trade. And I will just quickly mention that, even this British secondary school material admitted this, I quote, ''In the early 1800s Britain had increased the amount of Opium it sold to China and many merchants were beginning to use threats to force Chinese merchants into buying more Opium (from the British) than they needed (could sell).'' Btw, this school material is just a generic bullet points presentation about ''The Chinese Revolution'', so I don't know the name, author, and date of this material.
''The wars were about free trade, which the English had been requesting for almost 100 years, only to be rebuffed with increasingly humiliating dismissals by the Qing Court. Opium was a very distant objective of the wars.
If your idea of ''free trade'' includes the force selling of a very harmful drug even when it was fully recognised (by the British) being illegal against the Chinese law, then I guess you can call it ''free trade'', lol. And the British HAD been able to trade freely at designated ports and merchant houses for more than 100 years without any problem from the Chinese authority until when the Opium trade, as I already mentioned in my other posts, started to cause devastating effects to both the welfare of the Chinese people and the country's normal trade activity, as in, an increasing imbalance of China's outgoing reserve (to pay for the opium consumption) but however the action of destroying opium is overwhelmingly due to the consideration of the state the Chinese people and their society's health are in rather than anything else. And yes, the wars were 1000% to do with Opium, or rather the destruction of the opium, and again I will quote from this secondary school material, '' These actions were a threat to British trade/profits so in 1840 the British government ordered naval warships to attack Chinese coastal areas.''
''Also, you might have noticed it was only a minority of people in England who stated they felt pride in the British Empire. These must be the same people who voted for Brexit.''
There were two surveys you can refer to to find facts on this, both from YouGov.co.uk, I won't link to them, but you can search on Google, the older one from 2014 where 59% of the people surveyed feel proud of the British Empire, that is a clear majority. There are also 49% of the British people think that, overall, former British colonies are now better off for having been part of the empire. The more recent one from 2020, where 32 and 37 (respectively) percent of people surveyed say they view the British empire as more something to be proud of and neither to be proud nor ashamed of. This result change is I believe partly due to the BLM movements in recent years, otherwise, they should be largely consistent with the older survey.
''In fact, in the Treaty of Nanjing opium wasn't even mentioned (except as compensation for the opium Lin Zexu destroyed in the standoff just prior to the start of the 1839 war)'' ''The British Colonial Office sent very clear instructions to its people in China to not colonise a single square inch of China, as colonies are just a sinkhole of money and far more trouble than they're worth. ''
You once again badly contradicted yourself and hiding important facts or just being ignorant. The Treaty of Nanjing is very much ABOUT the compensation for the destroyed opium and war expenses arose from opium destruction (the cause of the war), and about forcing China to open up more ports for British ''free'' trade including the continued illegal trade of Opium without any Chinese legal jurisdiction applying to it, and allowing the British to live in places in China without the local law and control being applied to them, the very definition of colonialism.
''The only reason the Brits demanded HK was so they could have their own trading post away from the tyrannical supervision of the Qing officials.''
This is a lie. Again, the Chinese had already assigned the British ports and places to conduct normal trade activities, without any complaint whatsoever until the time of the drug trade, and the forceful ceding of Hong Kong is just to enable the British to gain a permanent foothold to further and better colonise China, and ceding territories of another country by force is again the very definition of colonialism, however you try to spin it.
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@Jack-di4ox ''The British government will introduce new legislation to shield its soldiers from prosecution for war crimes they committed while serving in Afghanistan and Iraq. Middle East Eye's Ian Cobain reported Wednesday that the measures will cover war crimes outside the U.K., thus soldiers who committed war crimes during the conflict in Northern Ireland will also be spared. “The controversial new rules mean that there will be a presumption that once five years have elapsed since the date of an incident, prosecutors will bring charges only in exceptional circumstances,” Cobain said in his piece. In late 2019, it was revealed via a series of leaked government documents that the British government and military covered up credible evidence of war crimes by British soldiers against civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to an investigation by the BBC and the Sunday Times. Leaks from two government-ordered inquiries into the conduct of troops in the conflicts implicated troops in the killing of children and torture of civilians, the investigation found. The allegations include murders by a soldier from the elite SAS unit, as well as deaths in custody, beatings, torture and sexual abuse of detainees by members of the Black Watch infantry unit. Military detectives, who unearthed evidence of the alleged war crimes, told the yearlong investigation by the newspaper and the BBC's Panorama program that seniors commanders hid it "for political reasons." Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab later told the BBC that despite the lack of any prosecutions, it had "got the right balance" in ensuring "spurious claims" were not pursued.''
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The Western/European hegemony/domination is based on White supremacy, plain and simple. The way they (the West) routinely dehumanize the Russians, the Chinese, and the people of other Global South countries proves this. They try to disguise their racism by saying for example, oh look we love the Chinese people, we just hate your government, while knowing the majority of the Chinese support their government, while knowing their sanctions will hurt the livelihood of ordinary Chinese. Same for Russia, I hear from Western media how the Russians are described as different from the other Europeans, they are less White or not sharing the same so called European values and beliefs. It is just a way to make people think, it is perfectly OK to do bad things to these people, because they are inferior, their lives value less.
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@Andy-P Wrong, SOME Taiwanese do not want to be ruled by PRC China, but it nevertheless does not change the fact that ROC, Taiwan's official name is a part of China, recognised by most countries in the UN. China is NOT threatening to kill their own fellow Chinese living in Taiwan, the ''threat'' is only intended for the separatists and the Western forces who are aiding them.
China has never prevented normal passing of vessels in the South China Sea, but it holds historical claims to some of the islands within that area of the sea, some of which are also claimed by other countries in the region, so this is just normal land disputes, not invasion. The same applies to with India. You seem want to claim China as the aggressor yet there is no fact and evidence to back this up, the country who has actually invaded ,occupied multiple countries and killed innocent people are Western countries, China has not been in any war with any nation for at least 50 years.
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@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies14''
(Re: sven hanson) ''he literally let me know about it then quickly deleted his reply.'' That's really pathetic if that's what he did. I read all your replies to him, courteous and well argued, no problem there. And you are spot on when you called him out that he basically didn't like your proof, but instead of refuting them with proper facts and data he basically labelled yours as ''propaganda'' (he also did the same with this Robin person), yet somehow his take/view is NOT based on Western propaganda, when he couldn't even (bother to) dispute one single data you cited as being wrong. And once again, reading his words, this is another Western person who thinks he knows better how the Chinese (in this case Tibetans) should live than the Chinese/Tibetans themselves. Even when he acknowledges it is in the best interest of Tibetans to have a peaceful stable living environment free from Western interference that constantly trying to destabilise the region to the detriment of those who live there, but no, he knows better than the Chinese government how A PART of China should be governed, because China is never good enough for some superior white Westerners.
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@martinfiedler4317 Lol, you love to play with words, but that doesn't change anything. There is only one sovereign country called China, yes just China, but it is named by the CPC government as PRC after their successful revolution and later winnings of the civil wars to overthrow the then corrupt Republic of China (1912 -1949) government led by the Chinese Nationalist Party (aka KMT). After the remnant KMT government and its forces retreated to the island of Taiwan, it continued its rule on the island with the same name Republic of China, yes the same ROC (Taiwan being part of it) when the KMT was in charge. But in 1979, after the US established formal relations with government of the PRC, the PRC became the sole legitimate representative of China, the island province of Taiwan (ROC) is a part of that China (PRC).
So when you say, Both, the ROC and the PRC are sovereign countries. You are essentially saying that there are TWO Chinas, which is not reality.
And no, I take no consideration of how the people of Taiwan feel about this. Neither should you, because you won't be sending yourself to the front-line to fight for Taiwan independence. Thus stop pretending you care about them.
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@billpetersen298 Chinese people are very happy with how China is developing and how their leaders run their country, you need to get over it, the West needs to grow up and accept a country like China that runs on difference systems succeeded without imposing imperialism upon other nations, the West is not and has never been in a position to judge China from a moral high ground, not based on all the horrible things it did to other nations and their people. ''We allow them to do this... we allow them to do that...'', sorry mate the time where the West ''allows'' China to do certain things is over, China is an independent fully industrialised country and does not need to be told like a kid, leave China alone and focus on getting better on your own system clean up your own house is the best call for you, no one takes orders from the West, no one should have, no one shall ever!
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@mikecavallaro466 It doesn't matter what people like you believe what China will do or not do to Taiwan, Taiwan is not going to float away, time is on China's side, Taiwan will never declare independence, because the US would not allow it, it is merely a chessboard, it is powerless, Taiwan's economy depends on the Mainland a great deal and all Taiwan's supply of resources could be switched off instantly if China wants to, the question is if the US is so committed to protect Taiwan it should have done something about it, why wait for China to get even stronger? What is the US afraid of? Would the US go to war with China over Taiwan, I don't think so.
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Why is China's atheism a problem? If you believe China has no religious freedom (told by your media), you are wrong. The Chinese are free to practice all world religions and beliefs in their 40,000 mosques (more than the US per capita), 6000 churches and many other religious venues, and of course in their countless temples. But all religious leaders and venues have to be properly registered with authorities and follow laws and regulations. And yes most Chinese do not follow a Western religion (including Islam), they follow their own domestic faith and beliefs such as Taoism, Confucianism and the Chinese branch of Buddhism, as well as ancestral worshiping and other regional folk beliefs, but in general, religious beliefs do not dominate Chinese people's everyday lives, because they are of a very pragmatic and practical people, this is a strength and merit of the Chinese culture.
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@Lou-ry6yq LOL, how come the rest of us knew what has been happening with the virus after China isolated it on 7 January 2020, within 2 weeks of first cases being discovered and shared the genetic sequence of it to the world on the 11th January 2020, no other country had been this quick on providing detailed information of a virus ever. And within two weeks of confirmation of human to human transmissions, China implemented lockdown stopping all travel in and out of Wuhan, again record speed of actions to prevent the spread. You however blind and deaf to all of these following only the Western lying media spewing your anti China propaganda BS everywhere like a loser as you are. Before the Wuhan outbreak started, multiple countries already reported suspected cases and historical blood samples showed antibodies, but it is easy to blame China, why aren't the West talking about this, are they trying to hide something? Oh, Trump famously said, NO test, NO virus!
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Both Western liberals and conservatives have huge misconceptions of China, because they see China through Western lens on top of all the lies coming from Western media and governments. The ''Chinese model'' is unique to China, its systems (both political and economical) and methods of working are constantly evolving and improving. You will not be able to understand the ''Chinese Characteristics'' without understanding China's history, culture/beliefs and its historical economic/trade practices. Both private entrepreneurship and state owned industries hold equal importance in the Chinese economy, private sector (both foreign and domestic) is a very vibrant part of Chinese economy contributes to 70% of the Chinese GDP and offering majority of the employments. The key difference is though Capitalists have zero influence over the Chinese government and its policy making, all major companies private or state-owned have to work towards China's 5, 10 year developmental plans. The key to China's success is pragmatism, like Deng said, ''Black cat or white cat, if it can catch mice, it's a good cat''.
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1. The "middle" in the "Middle Kingdom" (Zhong Guo/中国) historically meant "the middle plain" (中原) geographically in relation to other countries/states (non Han) surrounding it. And also meant the (Han) states/regions (original inhabitants of the ''middle'' plain on the Yellow River basin) that were centrally/directly controlled by the Chinese emperor in relations to other (non Han) tributary states.
2. It's CPC not CCP. The Western world and anti China people use CCP to insinuate its association with the CCCP, but it doesn't.
3. "(Free market) Capitalism" is not a new/Western/foreign concept to the Chinese, it is simply seen/interpreted as entrepreneurship and/or a mean of private business/trade ownership which has existed in China as long as China's history. The form of Capitalism China adopts is a fettered (profit limiting) one contrary to the US. And it was not adopted just to ''keep the CCP in power'', it was adopted as a part of Deng's experimental economical reforms, in fact Deng was criticised by many left leaning party members for being too liberal (right wing).
4. The ''flexible mindset'' can also be called pragmatism, another very important concept in the Chinese culture, this applies to the Chinese way of thinking and doing things, in its adaptation of foreign religions, diplomacy/foreign policies, business dealings etc. The most famous quote from Deng, ''no matter black cat or white cat, a cat that catches mice is a good cat'' sums up this practical approach. And ''实事求是‘’ (seek truths from facts) is another famous saying symbolises this approach/way of thinking.
Thank you for your otherwise well researched and objective presentation, the Linear vs Lateral thinking comparison is refreshing. I like the fact you used the ''Art of the War'' (basically a book on how to avoid war) example to demonstrate China is a peace seeking country since millennia ago, as it experienced too many wars back then to figure out the value of peace and stability. That was why China was united under Qin more than 2000 years ago with the goal of curbing division and instability.
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@martinfiedler4317 You said, "That Taiwan is a sovereign country, seperate and distinct from the PRC."
Please find me this COUNTRY called either Taiwan or ROC on the list of UN member states. Until then your statement remains false.
You said, "Also the 1971 vote does not mention either 'Taiwan' or the 'Republic of China'.
False.
I quote the following from "American Institute In Taiwan" website. "On october 25, 1971, the UN General Assembly passed United Nations Resolution 2758 (XXVI) which stated that the People's Republic of China is the only legitimate government of China. The resolution replaced the ROC with the PRC as a permanent member of the Security Council in the United Nations."
I also quote part statement of the resolution itself as follows. "Decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it."
Conclusion: KMT's ROC government lost its legitimate representation as "China", that the PRC's government replaced the ROC (Taiwan) government as the sole legal ruling government of "China".
ROC as a "country" has officially ended in 1971.
Martin, please do us a favour, if you don't have anything relevant to contribute, just be quiet.
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I am a Chinese have been living in the UK for 20 years, the way the BBC portray China, hasn't changed for all this time, the China it wants you to know, is a backward, poor, horrible place, people uneducated poor and brainwashed. It intentionally portray China like as if it was a century ago. I kept telling the British people that China has been changing for the better and very fast, but of course they don't believe me. The reason BBC make fake news about China to me is racism, yes, there is no need to deny it, it is the Yellow Peril mentality of the West, they can not deal with China, especially a socialist China that is doing better than them, they need to make fake news to fool themselves and feel better, it is that simple.
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@GaiusCaesar_ ''Deepen what reforms?'' Reforms to concentrate on economic development which will improve the lives of every Chinese person, not to conquer and dominate the world like the US/West. Belt and road initiative is an economic integration project to increase trade and cooperation between (mostly Global South) nations, it is an initiative that helps developing countries to develop infrastructures that they urgently need but can't get loans for from Western financial institutions. The West colonised these nations in African, Latin America, West Asia for centuries but never helped them to develop essential infrastructure. How is building schools, hospitals, roads, railways, bridges, airports ''raking profits''?
Xi jinpings CCDR (Comprehensively Deepening of Reforms council) is for what? For China to deepen reforms to develop its own industrial productivity, to deepen further cooperation and trade with all nations in the world, particularly developing nations. If you don't know anything about China, then learn and do some research before you spew your baseless conspiracy, trying to sound clever but only to reveal your utter ignorance and stupidity.
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@mattstevens9324 There are 800,000 foreigners living in China (Mainland, Hong Kong and Taiwan) for various of reasons, many of whom are Westerners, it is a known fact that in general Westerners are well received by the locals and often enjoy unique privileges in their day to day lives, I mean both offered by the local people and the country's authorities. Chinese people in general are (still) very (if not overly) friendly to Westerners, I would say a lot more welcomed than Chinese people in the West. You might be surprised that in general, Chinese people still are and have been showing good amount of admiration towards the West and its culture.
Anti China sentiments stirred up by the West in recent years of course has caused some anti West/Westerners sentiments in China but never to the degree of hate crimes the Asian/Chinese people experienced in the West. We respect and treat ''well behaved'' respectful Western people the way we would like to be treated, so you shouldn't worry, as I said the Chinese are generally very hospitable, prob more so than you would like. But you need to always bear in mind China is definitely not the West, there will be culture shock in all respects, for example, your idea of privacy, and I don't mean the so called surveillance, but of course, there are extensive use of technology that you may perceive as breaches of your privacy, but in China it is mostly for the sake of safety and convenience rather than intentionally limiting your freedom as the West would always portray. And China does it overtly, as in it lets you know what would be censored what would not. On the whole, China is not your typical Western society filled with ''liberal values and political correctness'', it is still a relatively conservative society.
Each person will have their own China experiences, some very positive, I believe it will be mostly positive for Westerners but some could be very negative it depends on how open minded you are, yes as I said China is very different from the West in many respects yet the same in others. There is of course NO perfect country, so never to idealise any country. There are plenty issues within China, but overall I myself see China going towards the right direction. If you really wanted to have a go in the East/China, then I suggest watching some China based Western YouTubers to give you an idea of how life could be as a Westerner in China.
About the West, I understand perfectly about the ''rot'' you are talking about. Yes it is quite depressing because it seems the ''rot'' is only getting worse, the sad thing is the majority of your citizens are oblivious to the rot or powerless and I personally agree with you, the ship is sinking unless some urgent and drastic change can take place. Your society is turning into such an ideology driven society, it seems most people have forgotten common sense approach.
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@aprescoup Did you read? China is NOT bailing out capitalists, this is your typical projection, this is indeed what YOUR corrupt government does, every time. Lmao.
"Chinese stock market is never allowed to be overvalued unlike yours." Hence, the Chinese government is NOT bailing out an over inflated bubble.
I understand your utter disappointment on the failure of your neoliberal economic policies (I know full well living in the West), but China is different, you hold a strong opinion with confidence (arrogance really) yet it is clear you have very little understanding of it. I'd rather read China's economic policy papers, Chinese leadership's speeches laying out their long term visions for the country, and with the understanding of China's historical past (struggle against Western imperialism/colonialism), it would be very easy to understand China will not follow the same path as the West. Just need to give China some time to prove it, even though China's model is only applicable to China.
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@agentorange6085 LOL, before I could respond to you, you need to review your historical knowledge of China, I know you have been brainwashed by your Western media and school textbooks with the false versions of Chinese history, but there is no point to even debate with you further if you outright claim that Hong Kong, a territory which the British handed back to China in 1997, was not a part of China historically, then why did the British return it back to China? The British robbed off Hong Kong after it bombed China's shores because China was preventing them from forcing tons and tons of opium down the the Chinese throats!
Just in case you are too lazy to read history books, let me put the record straight for you. Hong Kong was a part of China since Qin dynasty from 2nd century BC. Some islands and their territory waters in the South China Sea were part of China since the Ming dynasty from 1300s. Taiwan was made an official province of Qing China in early 1600s with early migration to the island starting from the 1300s. Tibet was a part of China since mid 1200s when it was incorporated into the Yuan dynasty during the Mongol rule, and FYI, Tibet was liberated by the PLA more than 70 years ago from Western imperialists who were occupying part of it.
I know your job is to spread false anti China narrative online, but at least do it better and also get a better username, don't make it too obvious, and up your history knowledge as well, otherwise it is very hard to take you seriously.
Lastly words are cheap, don't wait until China becomes too strong to get rid of it, if this is your ultimate goal, then what are you waiting for, why don't you start now? As if you and your words matter one tiny bit, LOL. And one more piece of very important information for you: The Chinese communist party enjoys a overwhelming 90% support of the Chinese people, that is the kind of support any Western government would dream of. And good luck rallying the Chinese to be on the side of the Western imperialists. They have fought them off before and they will do it again if they have to.
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@davidrenton No, your claim is completely false and baseless. It is very boring to copy, paste, repeat anti China talking points, but this is pretty much all you people do.
I quote from an article titled ''China Becomes Top Filer of International Patents in 2019 Amid Robust Growth for WIPO’s IP Services, Treaties and Finances'' from the website of ''World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)''. The link to the whole article is below.
''China in 2019 surpassed the United States of America (U.S.) as the top source of international patent applications filed with WIPO amid another year of robust growth for the Organization’s international intellectual property (IP) services, treaty-adherence activity and revenue base.
With 58,990 applications filed in 2019 via WIPO’s Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) System, China ended the U.S. (57,840 applications in 2019) reign as the biggest user of the PCT System that helps incentivize and spread innovation – a position previously held by the U.S. each year since the PCT began operations in 1978.
“China’s rapid growth to become the top filer of international patent applications via WIPO underlines a long-term shift in the locus of innovation towards the East, with Asia-based applicants now accounting for more than half of all PCT applications,” said WIPO Director General Francis Gurry. In 1999, WIPO received 276 applications from China. By 2019, that number rose to 58,990 – a 200-fold increase in only twenty years, Mr. Gurry noted.''
https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2020/article_0005.html
The countries that illegally block competitions and innovations from China is the US and the West, not China. Now shut your ignorant mouth and spread your BS to your own ignorant kind!
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@jackvue722 It is pretty obvious you are the one between us who seem to be trying to incite some kind of tensions between different ethnic groups (typical Western divide and conquer tactic, and plenty projection I have seen from you: you suggested that the recognition of Manchus, Mongolians, Hui, and Tibetans was done to maintain territorial integrity (implying these have not been historical Chinese territories), which is a typical Western talking point to stir up separatism). You do know the reason why the New China recognised/identified the 55 ethnic minority groups is for the purpose of promoting UNITY, but you are doing just the opposite of trying to incite tension based on historical baggage of your particular ethnic group. You also do realise that a large part of, if not the entire Chinese history has been about different (ethnic) groups fighting each other and of course influencing each other's cultures, minority groups being assimilated/absorbed into the ''mainstream'' culture at each particular historical period of time. With your logic, I can equally claim that ''my people'' the Han have suffered repeatedly chauvinism from various of ethnic (minority) groups throughout history. That will make you realise your argument is entirely pointless. And yes, your group, Miao must have been assimilated, naturally or forcefully, together with most other ethnic groups in China, that was just the way it was. So did the Han, their culture and customs have been oppressed under Manchu for 300 years for example, hence the rebellion. Nevertheless the Manchu ruled China contributed greatly of the formation of the collective Chinese identity/culture, as a Han, I don't hold a grudge at all.
I am going to be honest, it seems to me you have a Miao superiority complex, hence the projection. I've made my point very clear, I have never said ''Chinese'' is a single ethnicity, let alone denying the other 55 groups as you claim. I think we should save our time and energy to focus on something way more important: the Western hegemonic racist oppression of the Chinese people/Chinese nation.
Good bye.
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Did you know China and India were responsible for producing more than half of all world GDP exporting products on high demand to the West long before the West became fully industrialised? Did you know that a big part of the reason why the US approached China at the end of the 70s was because the US wanted China to help to win the cold war with USSR? It is boring to read Westerners keep saying China's success was largely the result of direct Western investments, because this is a superbly ignorant claim, and it shows your serious lack of understanding of China and its history. China does NOT feel that it is entitled to global leadership as it is never China's aim you believe it or not, China in fact would never want to replace the position of the US and would be happy to continue seeing the US as the world superpower, because it actually could benefit a great deal from it and China also knows how costly it is to be in the position of the ''world police''.
I am Chinese, so how I understand what China is doing is this: it is testing the Americans to see what its bottom lines are, to find out what the US' core interests are at the moment, would economical interests and benefits by continue to work and invest China greater than the need to contain China? The US will have to strike a balance, China wants to see how far would the US go to contain China, and how far would it still fancy to work with China, in my opinion, unfortunately, the US economy and population needs China now more than ever, and without China's help in supplying cheap goods and buying the US debts, your president could lose the election, so hence China's confidence, the confidence comes from the current economical strength rather than sense of entitlement, the later is a Western concept, China plays the long game, and would never get overly cocky for no good reason. And I can assure you China would never fall into this ''trap'', China still needs stability for its economical growth because this is the condition for its long term development, China has been patient for many many decades and there is no reason to change.
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@L110508 Sorry I am puzzled, fake unlicensed products made by who? By the Chinese government? Why would the Chinese government refund for fake products made by unlicensed factories, lol, try make better stories! No you are right the Chinese government and most of us Chinese are not stupid, only you are! Again the masks are produced in Chinese factories supplying to all countries, if they are all fake then no countries would be importing Chinese made masks, but guess what, most N95 masks are made in China and most countries are using made in China masks and have no problem with them, Canadian government are dumb enough to buy masks from unlicensed factories and then blame the Chinese government for their stupidity, typical Canadian, no wonder it has always been used by the US as a tool, only it is a pretty useless tool at best.
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@valleyshrew Apart from repeating extremely generalised talking points fed to you by the Western media, you offered no substance in arguing the Western governments and their policies were effectively controlled and influenced by a few large corporations against the interests of the majority. Your governments are answerable to the capitalists who fund them and work in favour of their interests not the ordinary people. Your capitalists set up businesses in China to precisely take advantage of the cheaper labour for huge profit margin and disregard of the regulations there to protect people's rights. That is what Western capitalists do, and they leave your country's own industry hollowed out abandon the workforce there, this is certainly much more moral, China offers a competitive labour force and a huge market, the West is queuing up to invest and market their products there, in China no capitalists are able to influence the policies of the governments and put profit ahead of the interest of the people and society, FYI, mostly of everything sold on Amazon is made in China, and guess what, they are the most popular products people buy and the overwhelming majority of them are quality goods the West can't produce and offer with the same quality and value ratio.
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@valleyshrew ''China stuck spy chips inside Apple and Amazon hardware along with a bunch of other companies'', lol, just this statement alone is enough to discredit you completely. There is no such evidence of this whatsoever, even Apple's CEO himself has come out to clarify several times that this is not true, in fact all four internet technology companies in the West, Google, Amazon, Apple and Facebook said China has not stolen any of their intellectual properties ever in a hearing a couple of years ago. Only Facebook CEO hinted that the ''stealing'' claim was widely believed but offered no particular evidence. Even Huawei who the West claims to have ''back door'' has had all their products tested again and again they found nothing yet still being accused of all sort of nonsense. I said what I needed to say about how capitalists work in China and the West, you believe what you want to believe, China has laws on worker's rights and it enforces them to the contrary to what the Western media tells you, I am not interested in hearing your anti China talking points because they are all either completely false or twisted half truths. If the Western governments are not controlled by a few large corporations they would not be giving them tax reduction or exemption first thing when they come into office, they will not be awarding the MIC contracts based on regional tensions and conflicts they stir up out of thin air. They will not put off green initiative in favour of fossil fuel companies, they will not privatise healthcare contracts to private Parma companies in order to gain profits. China is NOT invading any neighboring countries, it is rather the West is egging on these puppet nations to create tensions with China in their effort to contain and destabilise China. China is not a communist dictatorship, it is a socialist country with market economy and where its capitalists' only purpose is to create wealth and in turn its profits shared by the majority of the population. But again, believe what you want to believe, I can't care less.
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@ArchesBro Do you know Chinese from several large geographical regions of China (includes where I come from) eat wheat as their main carbohydrates? As well as rice of course these days, but rice was originally mainly cultivated in the Southern regions/costal areas, due to climate.
CPC IS the official English abbreviation of ''The Communist Part of China''. CPC has nothing do to with CCCP of Soviet Union, but Western anti China forces want you to think that, all part of the anti Communism propaganda which you have seem to have fallen victim. I won't go into length debunk all of your anti China nonsensical claims you learned from your lying media, but according to a 13 year long Harvard University survey of some 32,000 participants, the CPC led Chinese government enjoys a overwhelming 90% approval rating. YES, the Chinese love their government, they also have the same love and respect towards all their previous leadership.
And South Korea being ''rich'' but still a US/Western occupied country, maybe you should ask them if they are truly happy or enjoy real freedom and democracy, last time I checked, a militarily occupied country doesn't. Taiwan currently is also a Western semi occupied region of China that is considered merely a chess piece for the US for ''containing'' China, do you think that is an ideal situation for them to be in? This is not a question btw.
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@drp.c.7543 First thing first, not all Chinese people are against the CCP, in fact the majority of them are FOR the CCP because they agree with the actions and policies of their country's leadership and yes they CAN think as independently and well as you. Your Western media's lies and manipulates you into thinking somehow the CCP don't have the support of the people is just another blatant untruth, but that is another story.
I am not making you aware of how ''free'' your press is, I am in fact telling you the opposite, that your few brave investigative journalists are facing routine censorship and discredit because they dare to challenge the official narrative from your main stream media, including when they speak out for China, as I said there is an official narrative when it comes to China which is biased and nonobjective.
The Australian politicians have been playing politics with China for a long time now, bashing China non stop to win domestic popularity and win favour from its Western allies, they have no integrity to tell you the truth which is they constantly bite the hands that feeds them, China is humiliated on the daily basis by them yet contributes to the Australian economy in huge amounts, 30% of the entire countries exports goes to China yet your politicians continuously bash China for political gain, but you must understand, Chinese are neither stupid nor have unlimited patience when they get continuously humiliated for no reason at all.
What China has done is nothing compare to the treatment China gets from the West by any standard, but it is good to see the hypocrisy coming out of this as the Chinese have seen too often this hypocrisy from the West, rest assured more sanctions are to come if the Australian politician insisting to create a worse relationship with China, guess what China will retaliate just because it is able to do so.
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It depends on who you spoke to, the students who were on the square and went to America are the ones who were sponsored by the US to stir up emotions among young students and most students were being fooled into with the democracy and freedom message and being used. The female student leader Chai Ling in an interview with the CNN openly said she wanted to push the students and eventually see bloodshed on the square, and she would leave China for America when things gets messy, other main student leaders claimed later they didn't see any massacre and they actually left the square peacefully after making a deal with the army, who were ordered not to shoot or had no bullet in their arms. These student leaders even said do we have to lie to achieve our goal? Your friend didn't tell you that many many unarmed army soldiers got murdered, burnt alive, hung and cut open by rioters when the protests turned violent, properties smashed, the streets were full of bricks, I was there, I saw the chaos, it was not anything any Western country could tolerate for a second. There were deaths, including students, I am not denying it, but they mostly occurred during the violent confrontations with the army sent in to keep peace as rioters were spreading rumours and lies that the soldiers were sent in to kill civilians where they were not even armed and given orders not to use them. I am Chinese from Beijing, if you can read Chinese, I can tell you there were way more people in numbers who were on the square a member of the protest telling a totally different story from yours. To be clear, Danny is absolutely right, it was a failed colour revolution incited by the US, tons of evidence of their involvement using university intellectuals to incite uprising, the students were used, not to say there weren't problems with the Chinese government at that time, but it was not about democracy freedom and all the other things that the US does not actually give a shit about, it was about overthrowing the Chinese government for the interests of the US. Something your country does over and over, stop defending for it. BTW it is Tian An Men Square, learn to spell it right to start with, act like you actually care, lol.
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Shameless BBC producer tried hard but failed to cover up BBC's deed and got exposed right in her face. BBC repeatedly approached Adrian Zenz to find something anything when he actually said it was too hard with too little evidence, now this producer, a MI5 agent basically tries to deny it, what a joke, the BBC is not trusted even in the UK, absolutely, no it is not. I live in the UK, I stopped watching the BBC and paying for the expensive licence fee a few years ago, best thing I have ever done, if you are wise, keep yourself away from the BBC, it poisons your mind worse than the most lethal drug in the world.
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I am a Chinese have been living in the UK for 20 years, the way the BBC portrays China, hasn't changed for all this time, the China it wants you to know, is a backward, poor, horrible place, people uneducated poor and brainwashed. It intentionally portrays China like as if it was a century ago. I kept telling the British people that China has been changing for the better and very fast, but of course they don't believe me. The reason BBC make fake news about China to me is racism, yes, there is no need to deny it, it is the Yellow Peril mentality of the West, they can not deal with China, especially a socialist China that is doing better than them, they need to make fake news to fool themselves and feel better, it is that simple.
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I am really sick of the G word, you just know why the West intentionally picked this word to evoke the most extreme emotions from its populations, and it worked, very well. People just repeat this (and the ''concentration camps'') everywhere like it is absolutely true, but it is all bs. There has been a ''genocide'', but there is no dead bodies, no mass refugee movements, Uyghur language is continued to be spoken and written as frequently as ever, there are more mosques per capita in Xinjiang than in any major Western city, and Uyghur populations growth rate has increased more than the Han population, so on and on, so where the bloody hell is the effing genocide? This just make me so angry.
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@Into the sunset You know what, China is NOT doing anything for free, everything comes at a price, yes, that is precisely what China is doing: businesses and mutual trades. China wants something for something else, China builds infrastructures for Africans and it buys something its needs from the Africans, the difference is their loans are flexible much affordable than what Western countries would offer you with much less conditions and restrictions attached. Or you often get nothing back, the West just takes and exploits you but gives you nothing back, this is called imperialism/colonialism. I have heard many positive feedbacks from Africans about China's way of doing things in Africa, sounds like you are repeating all the Western talking points, China is a neo colonial power, that is nonsense and pure projection, China itself suffered plenty of Western colonialism, and is anti Western colonialism, why would China do this on Africa?
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@simonbeck3701 LOL, as if the West has recognised and obeyed the international law this whole time. The West is maintaining the ''rule of law'' only if it suits its geopolitical interests, stop making it sound like they have been a force for good, you invaded and occupied countries and killed millions in the name of freedom, human rights and democracy, but anyone with half of brain knows it is all about robbing resources from a country where its own people could have enjoyed them and maintaining a geopolitical advantage in a particular region.
It is even more laughable to claim China is an expansionist, when the West is the true expansionist with all of its ''new territories'' created by expansionism or imperialism at a horrific human cost to the indigenous people. The US is the country that has 800+ military bases all around the world, not China. None of the Western countries has any claim over any of the islands in the South CHINA Sea, but insists to intervene purely to demonstrate its hegemonic rule by military aggression. You are not there to defend the ''rule of the sea'', you are there to create trouble for China and divisions between the countries in that region which is not welcomed, several countries who hold claims over that area of the sea have clearly expressed this. But that is what the West is good at, stirring up tension and conflicts wherever they go and make these regions unstable and weak so they could dominate. But the West is a diminishing power now and could not even win a war with a country like Afghanistan, but if the West insists to provoke for another war, then I hope they are ready as China today is no longer the one that was suffering badly under the oppressive Western imperialism centuries ago, and the world has had quite enough of the hegemonic domination of the West.
China does not own the South China Sea, but owns some of the islands and its territory waters and their ownership began before the West even became a relevant power. If the West has not continuously threaten the security of that region of the sea, then there wouldn't be a need to develop and improve military facilities on these islands, The West does not belong to that region, but it could not see that region thrive in peace because it could not accept a world of equal powers and multilateralism.
And about the UK, it is quite shameless, for once an opium smuggling country who committed mass murder and sufferings of Chinese to think it represents a force for good, it is only there to show as if it is still relevant as a former imperialist power, it is one of the very few Western countries who is stupid enough to risk its relationship with China only to go along with US, a current imperialist empire with their last attempts to maintain their hegemonic rule before they will be completely abandoned by the rest of the world, which make up the vast majority of the world population.
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@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 I kind of concluded from his very first comment here that he is just another China hater (in disguise), most China haters hate China for no reason, as in no real valid reason other than racial superiority at the end of the day, but they would never want to admit it of course. This one particular disguises himself as a "socialist", it is as hilarious as when I heard Jackson Hinkle calls himself a "communist", the truth is they have no idea of what that even means, they use them as a cover to hide their real self, they are the same as those racists who claim they love/support the Chinese people hate the Chinese government, even when they know the Chinese government has overwhelming approval of the people, which means logically by hating their government, they hate the people too, but that's their go to cover, like the "socialist" cover, just so they can hide under their blatant hate and racism. The truth is the fake left in their own government failed, failed because it is designed so, they project that the Chinese government is "designed" the same way, by some "globalists" infiltrated into the Chinese government doing the biddings for the US/Western deep state. Anyone buys into this has zero understanding of China and this is a right wing talking point. I went to read some of his comments under Danny's video, someone replied has reached same conclusion as me, he mostly repeats MSM anti China talking points (that's already telling) to prove how bad China's systems are, but can not answer why Chinese government is popular (a simple question), the guy has zero understanding of China, its economical policy, 5, 10 year plan, historical policy changes and core beliefs of the CPC. Nothing. But pretends to be a socialist, in the purest form, attacking people like Ben and Danny, while repeats right wing anti China talking points, or he is just a CIA shill, as someone pointed out. My suggestion to him would be, do something about the fake left in his own country, instead of worrying about China because the truth is he doesn't give a f about the Chinese working class.
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@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Yep, grifter he is, even if he is not, nobody is interested in his ''I know better what China is than China itself, I know better what is good for Chinese people than the Chinese themselves.'' arrogance. He is no different than the other White saviour/superiority complex suffers, who constantly lectures China/Chinese over their ''flaws'' but never acknowledge the good they did. At the end of the day, revolution doesn't happen on YouTube comment section, until he takes some real action to make real changes starting with his own country, it is all bs, this is where the problem is with the West, it is all yapping no action, look at China, we act, and see tangible result, better than a thousand words. Anyway, thanks to your great effort help to expose who he really is, pat yourself on the back! ; )
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@ReWe1974 Is this why Julian Assange and a number of people got sent to prison for speaking the truth in the West? You can NOT say everything you want in the West, in fact there are more things you can not say freely in the West than China, I can tell you, but of course you can not say certain things in China publicly, it is the Chinese own political correctness and also for other reasons such as society harmony and stability, but there are plenty dissenting voices in the Chinese social media and guess what there is no problem whatsoever to the owners of these voices, how do you think China could have made this much progress if the Chinese government are blind and deaf to people's opinions and concerns, they care very much what people think, like in most countries, use your common sense, I am afraid to say, with your very narrow minded mentality on China, you are never going to learn about China.
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@rickstevenson9585 I don't have an anti America worldview, my view of the US or other countries are based on factual evidence, logic and reason, I will then make a judgement about that country. You however defend America on blind bias. You speak as if the US has NO or little part in the whole affair/crisis that is taking place in Europe (involving the Ukraine war), which is very suspicious on your part (you are in denial or you have an agenda?). The US is heavily involved in the Ukraine conflict , which contributes to the cost of living crisis and deindustrialization of Europe (which the US benefits from it), there is no amount of denying could remove these facts. The US is fighting the Russians via Ukraine, it has sent billions of dollars worth of financial support, weapons and more to Ukraine, all for the geopolitical interests of the US, and US only. No, the US is not doing charity to the Ukrainians, your politicians have made it clear, your country is using Ukraine (till the last Ukrainians) to ''defeat'' Russia, again no amount of denying could remove this fact. I have also watched many videos where Russian POW were tortured and murdered, so Ukraine (with the full support of US/West) is not innocent and morally superior. Since you suggested that some other European countries also have the incentive to sabotage the pipelines, so again it would be very much in the interest of the US/West to find out the truth of the investigation (to prove Russia or these other European countries did it), but NO, the US/West is not pushing for the investigation to progress instead they are silent, especially Germany, the co-owner of the pipelines not in any hurry to find out who destroyed their infrastructure, while both your president and secretary of state have made statements repeatedly saying the implementation of the pipelines does not serve the interests of the US and it needs to be stopped. Again, you can dismiss this all you like, but that form a very important part of the evidence for most other people in the world, but your blind patriotism do not allow you ever see your country as being evil. The fact that your country has repeatedly invaded, occupied, destroyed countries for its own (geopolitical) gain all can be conveniently forgotten because that does not go along with your current narrative. Keep fooling yourself.
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China is far from point to be panic about its population
By Global Times, Jan 18, 2023
''China's status as one of the most populous countries in the world will not change. A slight decline in population will not lead to stagnation of China's GDP growth and it will not become a stumbling block to surpass the US economy. If China's development slows down, population decline will not be the top reason.
Chinese scholars and ordinary people have long known that this was coming. Yuan Xin, a professor from the Institute of Population and Development at Nankai University's School of Economics, told the Global Times that China's national population is currently hovering around the zero-growth stage.
Some young people decided to delay pregnancy due to the pandemic. It is thus possible to see a population growth rebound in two or three years to come, said Yuan.
According to UN's World Population Prospects 2022, China's population will still remain larger than 1.3 billion by 2050. That is by no means a small population size. Yuan noted that in the next 30 years, China's population decrease will be mild, and China will still be a huge market. With rising incomes and consumption power, its enormous potential will remain inestimable.''
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@Dhumm81 The richest few ''capitalist parasites'' (Western concept) have no means to influence or even manipulate any socio-politico-economical policies making of the contemporary China unlike the West. The ''ruling class'' (another Western concept) mission in China is to create a long term favourable economical policies for all types of business entities include private enterprises, so everyone in China would benefit from the wealth created. It is the Chinese government's goal to make sure all are benefitted from the economical development and China has achieved great deal of this, one example is the extremely low cost public transportation systems includes buses, subways, highways and high speed rail, they are all state owned and heavily subsidised, the roads, railways and modern telecommunication infrastructure projects built in the last 30 years benefit most of people from deprived area of China. The fact is everyone from peasants to factory workers to ordinary government employees to high ranking officials of the ''ruling party'', all of which benefited from this economical model which is part socialism part capitalism if you really want to label China with, the wages of an ordinary worker in both state and private sectors has increased 30, 40 folds in the past 40 years in China, whereas in the West the wage of an average government worker largely remained static in the past 20 years, but in private sectors such as finance and banking the wages continue to increase exponentially, the cost of public transportations and public services continue to increase exponentially too. So China IS a socialist country with the Chinese characteristic, the West like to call it capitalism, but China's end goal is not to chase profit but achieve social equality for the majority of its people which it has done.
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@gregoryjones2457 I am not an expert of anything and I don't study into fine details of these research articles, I just summarise what I think was important and interesting from my Chinese sources. So about the latest autopsy carried out by Dr Liu Liang, I didn't find any English article about it, maybe it is out there but I did watch an interview by him to the Chinese state TV and there are some articles in Chinese about his findings. I used google translate to translate part of this article (http://m.xinhuanet.com/2020-03/03/c_1125658547.htm) I found online in a very quick search and quote below (I would not know if the translation is accurate as I am not a medical expert and don't know these terms) : ''The report said that the damages to the lungs of the deceased were obvious. The inflammatory lesions (grey-white lesions) were concentrated to the left lung, and the lungs were visually patchy. Gray-white lesions and dark red bleeding were visible. A large number of sticky secretions overflowed from the alveolar surface and fibrous strands were seen on the section.
Consider that the ground-glass opacities seen in imaging correspond to the gray-white alveolar lesions seen by the naked eye, suggesting that neo-coronary pneumonia mainly causes inflammatory reactions characterized by deep airway and alveolar damage.
The report believes that the pathological features of neocoronary pneumonia are very similar to those caused by SARS and MERS coronaviruses. However, from the general observation of systematic anatomy in this case, pulmonary fibrosis and consolidation are not as serious as those caused by SARS, and the exudative response is more significant than SARS. It may be related to the fact that this patient has only 15 days from diagnosis to death and a shorter course of disease, and more systemic corpse examination data and histopathological verification are needed.
Liu Liang's team found that from the section of the lungs of the deceased, mucus secretions could be seen. Liu Liang made an analogy: alveoli are like the front-line battlefield, mucus disrupts traffic, oxygen cannot be sent, and front-line positions are easily lost. At present, ''road'' opening is the key, but now ''roads'' are blocked.
An autopsy does not guide medical staff to intervene in all cases, but for lung mucus problems, you only need to dilute the alveolar mucus, such as turning back and patting the back, using sputum medication, can change the situation.''
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@evelghostrider I guess as long as people like you can make sure never to come close, within 2 meters to anyone else, especially in an indoor environment, then wearing a mask or not is your choice, this is of course to protect others assuming you may be infected and contagious. However, don't dismiss the effectiveness of masks just because you decided not to wear it, you are mixing up two things, one is straightforward science and the other is your interpretation of freedom. The main method of transmission is still through large droplets, The virus can only live on surfaces for certain amount of time and with most household disinfectants, it will be killed instantly, but once it gets into your mucus membrane it will thrive and causing damage, so to reduce the chance of this happening, put a protective barrier against it, it is simple logic. This virus IS deadly, to some, the key is to prevent vulnerable people from getting them, everyone ''healthy'' need to do their part, but I am sure you can 200% guarantee you will not go anywhere near an old or immune compromised individual or is it as you stated, you just concern about yourself not others.
When you exercise your freedom to harm intentionally or unintentionally others, then that is not called freedom, we all have a duty to take responsibility for ourselves I am sure you would agree.
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@evelghostrider This virus is not that deadly, I agree, but if we let it spread rampant among the population, there will be many many deaths, any death is one too much, especially if the person is your loved one. Do many people get ill and die from any other diseases or other causes everyday, of course, does that mean we should let this virus affect people, make people suffer and die without any action taken? Of course not. What about the medical people who risk their lives to save the ill, hundreds of them have already died, this is far from ideal, is it?
ONS has been publishing data clearly showing a much higher excess of deaths comparing to the average of past 10 years, not sure about your research being correct. And right now the figure must have gone back to almost normal after 4 months of lock down. The government is not your enemy entirely, it measures up medical advice and national economic interests to provide advice accordingly, the polices are not going to please everyone, but I believe it is most of time for the interests of the majority. If you don't want to be controlled, just look at the US right now, total lack of leadership and the pandemic is clearly out of control, hence 135,000 deaths so far and more to come. It would have taken tremendous effort for this figure to be faked don't you think? I believe many deaths could have been prevented if only their leader took it seriously at the start. If you still think this virus is not serious then I have no more to say. I guess you would say it is your choice to get sick and die, yes indeed it is, with all due respect.
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I agree with your analysis Ben, there are so many signs of this shift, it is quite surprising actually, just goes to show when the Western ship is sinking fast, people jump it off FAST, so to speak. Apart from the Europeans, and I actually want Europe to suffer, sorry, you deserve every bit of your incoming bad fate, Karma will always come, it is just a matter of time.
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@aprescoup Yes, you Westerners/Americans should focus on building a genuine democratic system in your societies, but that is not going to happen until your revolutionary force (where are they?) remove your capitalists excessive wealth by force (which your system will not allow because it is completely corrupt) the way the Chinese ruling party has done in the 40s and they remain to this day a force making sure the capitalists in its society know their place and stay in their place. But, a big but is you people are too ignorant, too distracted, too divided to form any effective force to fight your oligarchs instead you are fighting among each other or even worse, hating China, a country you have a lot to learn from, but as per usual, you people are also too arrogant, suffering too much from superiority complexes to do anything against your corrupt governments (not that China is interested in exporting its models to the West/World, it is busy looking inward to improve its own people's lives).
While China's system, an early stage Socialism that has been so far very successful in reducing poverty (the only country responsible for the alleviation of most world's poverty in past 20, 30 years), income inequality, producing 400 million middle income group (by UN standard), China is actually setting a solid and necessary foundation to Marxist's Communism in theory. Communism can not be achieved where the societies are materialistic and resource poor, when productivity is low, and most importantly when everyone is in poverty. Though this transitional stage might take a long time, but China is doing all the right thing, building extensive and quality infrastructure to creasing business connectivity, cheap state subsidised public transport (40,000km high speed rail), building sustainable and clean energy power sources and vehicles, just a few example, the US/West has fallen far behind in all of these, on top of its active deindustrialisation.
Your assumptions of China is far from the truth. Hating China/feeling superior towards China is exactly what your oligarchs what you to do, a distraction as I said, but if only by doing so it solves any of of your problem, not it doesn't, neither your ignorance disturbs China's own plans in any way. While you hate, envy and your system remains corrupt, China goes speed ahead, hence a lot of cope will be needed.
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@elstepherino5690 What? Invasion means invasion, if you don't know the definition of invasion, check your dictionary. China has NOT invaded a single country in the past 50 years, and no, every other country is NOT within China's waters, check your map too. Instead, the US treats the skies and waters of the whole world as its. You are pretty good at projection. And NO China has not been building military islands, it installed military defence facilities in islands that belong to China since hundreds of years ago. Get your facts right, oh wait, you watch MSM lying media, lol.
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@peaceunion5316 The main type of transmission is by droplets yes, but the droplets can form an aerosolized mists and hang in the air for as long as 2 hours in certain weather/pressure/humidity conditions, many infected cases in China happened this way, especially in enclosed air condition circulated spaces like lifts, buses, tubes and indoor places, where you can breath in the mists contains the virus, the more virus you breath in the more chances you will catch it. And imagine how many people sitting in that bus say in the 2 hours or even 30 secs of time, that is why you need to wear masks to reduce the chances even if by a little. I am Chinese, I know this from Chinese medical experts, that is why all Chinese people are required to wear masks when they go out of their homes, but believe whatever you want to believe, it is your life you do whatever you want. BTW, if masks is of no use then why doctors wear them, it is a no brainier!
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@dfwherbie8814 So you married a Chinese, what, does that somehow qualify you for a China expert? Lol. I never said you said China has no religious freedom, I said if you believed China has no religious freedom, then you are wrong. Learn to read.
''Do you have all of these pre-written in your notes, and you copy and paste whenever a comment somewhat comes close to the content of these pre-written responses?'' You don't like people making assumptions of you, but you have no problem making assumptions of me. What, are you hinting I am a Chinese government propagandist? Sounds like this is what you are saying. No, I spent a good 10 mins writing my own response in my own words based on my own knowledge and research.
''Anyway, Mao removed religion from China as a means to move away from “superstition.” But here’s the problem, in removing religion, the government has mad itself into the religion of the people. And that is problematic however you dice it up.'' Total nonsense. Mao never removed religion neither did he remove superstition (typical Western anti China talking point probably based on what your media falsely described about ''Cultural Revolution'', which is a completely baseless claim). This statement of your shows you have no clue about this topic. And the government has never made itself into the religion of the people, again another typical Western anti China talking point you are repeating here. The Chinese government (past and current) has overwhelming approval of the Chinese people because of what they've done for them (providing them a better life) and what they've achieved for the country not because they've been forcing people to worship them like a god.
Anyway, you don't have a clue about China, and your wife failed to educate you, unless she doesn't have a clue herself.
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Many Taiwanese have been brainwashed by the KMT and the DPP governments to hate Mainland China (Chinese), using the same political ideology bias and racial superiority the West uses against Mainland socialist China, problem is the US is actively dividing China by arming separatists in Taiwan, without these provocations, Mainland China is pretty happy to leave Taiwan alone, Taiwan is hijacked by the Western imperialist powers for the purpose to contain China, it is a Chinese territory so therefore it matters to all Chinese people living in it, especially the 1.4 billion Chinese on the Mainland, you have no idea how much China suffered from (Western) imperialism in the past, Taiwan has been a part of that 100 year of humiliation and ''carving up'' of China by Western powers, the Chinese people can not allow any more aggression from the West, it has a right to defend its territory from being divided away.
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@ServantOfTheSouth ''no other super power would allow potential US intelligence devices to freely hover over key military installations and return home it’s just how this world and system works.''
Lmao, you must have never been told by your Western lying media, that this is exactly what the US does to China on a monthly basis, sending its spy planes and war ships over China's territorial sky and waters to gather data without notice and permission just about EVERY. SINGLE. MONTH. I guess for hypocrites and supremacists like you, it is completely fine, because whatever the US does is always justified, as it abuses its military might and gets away with breaking international law again and again. If only you have at least some level of self awareness, your comment wouldn't look so arrogant and hypocritical. You think the US is the good guys, lol, only after it killed a few million people in its illegal wars in the past 20 years. The fact is you don't know what the balloon is, shooting down a civilian weather balloon is completely against international law and conventional norm, but hey for the trigger happy Americans, it is totally normal.
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@blvk3 First, you need to learn to be concise in your comment, you went all over the place with your propaganda BS lines I found it to be utterly uninspiring, so you wanted to say China=bad, OK I have no problem for you to think like that, we Chinese have stopped caring what people like you think. Now do me a favour and answer me: if China is so bad and needs to be punished why then all the countries in the West and the rest of the world sill trade with China in huge volumes, still setting up factories to make all sorts of stuff and still export their high value goods to China??? Keep that answer to yourself btw, I know the answer already and long ago, fact is China is the NO. 1 trading partner of the majorities of the countries in the world.
You made a lot of claims and hearsays about China in your comment but yet offered no evidence whatsoever to support them, the other thing you do is you love using your imagination to presume or imply how things would b like in China but again are not supporting it by any evidence, you have never been to China yourself, that tells enough about you. I don't want to waste my time on people like you but this answers your question in your last paragraph, which is why I am here on YouTube: to educate ignorant people (most of time not possible), to correct misinformation and lies put out here, yes I hate to agree with you there are far too many unrestricted lies about China, this is nowhere near to the breath of fresh air you described, but it is certainly entertaining to see the amount of ridiculous rubbish being said about China here and how idiotic the China haters like you are, and finally, yes, the majority of the Chinese people LOVE China, SUPPORT their government simply because they can see with their own eyes and experience in real terms who CARES about them, their support come from their heart regardless you believe or not, and BTW all powerful and rich people love to send their kids to the west why would China be different, it is not China who ALWAYS bad mouth the West, it is the opposite, but yet they continue to trade with China hence supporting the ''regime'' they despise and hate, what does that tell you about them? Chinese government has paid for all the tests and treatments for the ill since the start of the pandemic and continue to do so, they sent thousands of party members many of them doctors and nurses to the front line working day and night non stop to save lives, tell me which government who does not give a shit about its people would do such thing?
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Miike .A ''Common knowledge'' yet there is not a single video evidence and proof, and later many journalists and key members of the protestors all admitted lying, yeah, you don't have any evidence because the Chinese gov covered it up, well they didn't manage to cover it up very well then since it became ''common knowledge'', lol, you don't make any sense. Was it like that WMD in Iraq that has never been found? Oh wait it turned out that it was never there to begin with, but a lie good enough to fool people into a war. You don't have evidence because it NEVER happened, otherwise you would have thought these Western journalists who returned back to their country alive and well would have shown you the evidence wouldn't they, but no nothing, none at all, because it NEVER happened.
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Miike .A You mean the ''sweatshops'' set up by Western companies like Apple, where their profit margin is over 70%? It is these greedy Western capitalists who exploit the Chinese workers you should lay the blame on, not China the country or govnorment, and those are not sweatshops, they are just factories offering cheaper labour comparing to the West, but again think about who benefit from this most, you should thank China instead, because I bet you don't think twice when buying a cheap product just so you could save money, maybe you should demand a better wage and condition for these workers by boycotting these companies that take advantage of the cheap labour over there, now stop being hypocritical because you are just as guilty as those companies that only care about profit, and you should also get yourself to blame for the Iraq war since you supposed to hold your ''democratically elected'' government accountable, why is Tony not in prison yet? Your hypocrisy and double standards never fail to entertain me.
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@ZackP1 I am Chinese, I did a quick search online, based on a range of websites came up in my search, the average monthly salary across all sectors of employments in Jilin was 4980.05 rmb for the year 2019. The average yearly salary in non private sectors (state-owned sectors) was 68,447 rmb a year, about 5700 a month, but you said 3000 in your video, so that is misleading already to say the least. And consider you defended SerpentZA and Laowhy86's claim, who have clearly not been objective and truthful about China in most of their recent videos, then I have reason to believe you tried to mislead intentionally. And consider the people who go to that Jilin resort could be from any parts of China, some from cities/provinces with much higher average monthly wage than Jilin city, so to use the 3000 Jilin figure to represent people who go to such resort and take up such activities is again very misleading, what is your reason for doing that?
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@ZackP1 I did read your statement in your video. It was you who didn't put the 3k in context, the figure does not represent the whole picture, and when people questioned, rightly so, you asked people to get over it, we Chinese don't appreciate people misrepresenting China especially for an agenda, which Serpentza and Laowhy clearly has one. And also, if you say skiing is unaffordable to the average working class Chinese, then one can make the same claim about iphone being unaffordable to an average Chinese, or even an average Westerner for that matter but so what, people just save for 6 months, plus people can perfectly rent ski gears, so, sorry your claim is just misleading.
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@kubhlaikhan2015 Your ignorance is ravelling at an incredible speed. I will just try one more time to correct all the misinformation and lies you put out for the people who happen to read our conversation.
China has one of the strictest laws if not THE strictest laws on drugs among all countries on this planet. Any drug related crimes big or small receive indiscriminately severe punishment, it is NOT possible to have illegal drug trade performed on any Chinese online commerce platforms, so there your lies busted already. There are however still illegal drug related activities taking place inside China because of huge demands coming from mainly the West, yes Western companies (healthcare, pharmaceutical and more) trade/prescribe these illegal drugs to its population for the sole purpose of seeking profit (like what the West did with China with the opium trade). That is why all Western governments have made agreements to work with the Chinese governments (as well as other countries) to combat illegal drug trade, so NO, China does NOT export illegal drugs, another fat lie busted.
China has 56 ethnic groups, the largest minority group being Muslims with a population of 26 million, served by 28,000 mosques in each and every town and city across China. There are also 44 million Christians in China served by 7000 churches located in every major Chinese city. There are 846,000 foreign nationals living in China, last time I checked it was the UK that has an increase of some 300% on racially motivated attacks on Chinese/Asian, not in China.
There is NO such city called Peking. It is a name only how Western imperialists call the capital of China, it is called Beijing today, again only people have a view of China from the last century still use this term. Same for Sinkiang, the fact that you still use these terms shows your frame of mind still stays in the last century, so are your understanding of China, needless to say.
Tibet has been a part of China since 1264, when Mongol led Yuan Dynasty of China incorporated it as an autonomous region. Inner Mongolia also became a part of China at around the same time when the Mongols conquered the whole of China. Xijiang (Sinkiang) has been a part of China all the way back to Han Dynasty (200 century BC) and the region was used as a trade route (silk road) ever since that time. Taiwan has been an official province of China since 1600s during the Qing Dynasty, with earlier migration coming from the Mainland as early as 1300s. Over 90% of Taiwan's population are of Han Chinese and they speak mandarin.
I frankly don't care about your opinions of China, even though I can say based on what you've spoken so far that you are just as ignorant as an average Brit I have met (no surprise really thanks to your media and school system). I also am not going to debate with you if you personally feel the UK is a racist country or not, despite your own government brushed off its own commissioned report describing Britain's problem with institutionalised racism. Btw, it is completely alright for a White person to claim there is NO racist problem in his/her country, how laughable. You are dogging the topic under discussion by personally attacking me in order to deflect, distract from facts. I repeat again: Until Britain reflects and learns properly from its past wrong doings towards people of other nations, it will continue to be viewed by the people of the Global South as an existing force of colonialism/imperialism (as a matter of fact you still are), and you as a Brit is fully responsible for how your country is perceived. To me, Britain has been a force of evil, in the past and still today.
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@krisstarring Great comment and thank you.
Churchill was a racist and he didn't even bother to hide it. The fact that he is still regarded highly by most British if not by most in the Anglo English speaking world reflects how deceiving the British colonial narrative has been.
I quote from article ''Deconstructing the cult of Winston Churchill: racism, deification and nostalgia for empire - Benjamin T. Jones''
''According to author Tariq Ali (from book: Winston Churchill: His Times, His Crimes).
He (Churchill) informed the 1937 Peel Report on the British mandate in Palestine that First Nations in North America and Australia had been colonised by “a stronger race, a higher-grade race”.''
''According to former British PM Harold Macmillan, Churchill floated “Keep England White” as a campaign slogan for the 1955 election. Perhaps most damning is the recollection of Churchill’s friend, the politician Violet Bonham Carter: when asked his opinion on China in 1954, he reportedly replied, “I hate people with slit eyes and pigtails”.''
''Churchill’s view that “Indians breed like rabbits” was surely relevant to his decision not to deliver food supplies to Bengal during this famine as a matter of urgency.''
He viewed Arabs as an inferior race compared to Europeans of any stripe, in the case of Palestine he accused the Arabs of behaving like ''a dog in the manger'', ''I do not agree that the dog in the manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have laid there for a very long time.''
Regards to the native populations, ''I do not admit for instance that a great wrong has been done to the red Indians of America or the black people of Australia, I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race a higher grade race or at any rate a more worldly wise race to put it that way has come in and taken their place. ''
if a nation (Britain) regards a racist as their ''hero'', then you know something is seriously wrong with your educational system, and you know why today many ethnic minorities in Britain still consider (through their personal experience) British society is as racist as 30 years ago (according to a recent YouGov survey)
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@videorezensent I knew you would say the virus didn't become widespread among the rest of Chinese population due to the strict lockdown measures during Wuhan outbreak, which is true but I am not talking about outbreaks taken place after the first cases of human to human transmissions were identified in Wuhan, I am talking about simultaneous outbreaks taking place elsewhere in China, there were none. And the later antibodies study actually confirmed this to be the case, and it defies common sense that the virus didn't spread to the rest of China first before to abroad.
Both antibody studies in the US and China were done after the ''first wave'' outbreaks, the tests were developed to test a specific antibody, as in Covid-19 antibodies not any other corona viruses antibodies, plus just because certain populations in parts of the world have corona viruses antibodies doesn't mean that same situation would equally apply to populations in China and/or US. ''Why was there no outbreak evident in the US/California at the time of Wuhan outbreak?'' Well, there were actually many suspected Covid cases reported all across the US as early as November 2019, but at that time they were simply treated as flu or other respiratory illness as it was the flu season.
''The virus variants seen today all descendants from the virus that was genetically identified in Wuhan'', this is simply not true. An Oxford study back in April found after having analysed around 1000 DNA sequences of virus collected from all over the world, there were three main variant groups of the virus, type A was identified to have the closest link to virus found on animal source. But this type A wasn't found in majority of sequences from Wuhan samples, but found instead in the US and Australia samples. Type B was said to be a mutated strain of A, were found in most samples from China and Asia. And type C were again mutated strain of B, where mostly found in samples from Europe. In fact only very recently, a German virologist said most variant of the virus spreading across the world is the one from Italy, but of course it could have been originally brought there from China, but again there were reports from doctors in Italy to suggest there were already suspected Covid cases back in November 2019, which is earlier than China, of course again one can go down the route of accusing China covered up, but there is not enough evidence to suggest this and not enough evidence to suggest the virus was originated from there either. And finally, if China is to be investigated then other countries should be investigated too, but lets see if this will be the case.
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To Europe and other Western countries: Just do like what China did, don't try to be smart and hubristic, don't use the ideology, economic and cultural differences excuses, the method of complete lock down, thorough testing, contact tracing, enforced isolating worked very well in China, it would work in the West too. China now is facing huge risks of second wave infections from the ''back flow'' cases from abroad especially these irresponsible ''herd immunity'' Western countries, all the efforts and sacrifices the Chinese made could be jeopardised it is so frustrating, if you want a relatively short and sweet stamping down of the virus, just copy China and it can be done! PS: WEAR MASKS!!!
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''The British government will introduce new legislation to shield its soldiers from prosecution for war crimes they committed while serving in Afghanistan and Iraq. Middle East Eye's Ian Cobain reported Wednesday that the measures will cover war crimes outside the U.K., thus soldiers who committed war crimes during the conflict in Northern Ireland will also be spared. “The controversial new rules mean that there will be a presumption that once five years have elapsed since the date of an incident, prosecutors will bring charges only in exceptional circumstances,” Cobain said in his piece. In late 2019, it was revealed via a series of leaked government documents that the British government and military covered up credible evidence of war crimes by British soldiers against civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to an investigation by the BBC and the Sunday Times. Leaks from two government-ordered inquiries into the conduct of troops in the conflicts implicated troops in the killing of children and torture of civilians, the investigation found. The allegations include murders by a soldier from the elite SAS unit, as well as deaths in custody, beatings, torture and sexual abuse of detainees by members of the Black Watch infantry unit. Military detectives, who unearthed evidence of the alleged war crimes, told the yearlong investigation by the newspaper and the BBC's Panorama program that seniors commanders hid it "for political reasons." Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab later told the BBC that despite the lack of any prosecutions, it had "got the right balance" in ensuring "spurious claims" were not pursued.''
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Funny you praise Ben for his reports being well supported (by facts), but where are the sources of your claims here? I am Chinese. Do you know that President Xi has been combating corruption at all levels for over 10 years (since his leadership began)? Many officials/state sector employees big and small have received severe punishment, yes corruption is a very serious crime in China, could literally be punishable by death. Your so called mistresses issue that you brand as abuse of women in China is completely overblown and you provided zero facts to support the claim. I can tell you that, at least in the governmental officials/the CPC party members level, such behaviour is considered a serious breach of Party code, and would face investigations and removal from official capacity. The so called population crisis is once again an anti China talking point, according to experts, China will remain as populated as now by 2050 and still have the total number of labour force larger than the rest of the world labours combined, plus automation is already replacing labour in manufacturing. About the dams, no idea what that is all about, sounds like fake news. China is not perfect but your media is spewing insane amount of fake news about China, trust me, most of what they tell you is either fake or twisted truth. Watch Ben's channel, he has been so far spot on China, because he is not lazy, he does his research well unlike people like you.
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It is very true that just 20 years ago, France and Germany were still largely politically and economically independent with leaders like Chirac and Schroder who were both having a fairly good relationship with Russia and China. The US was also on good terms with China then, I guess when China was just starting to provide a cheaper manufacturing base for the US/West and experimenting with a more capitalistic approach to its economic development. And now Europe is a complete US colony with pro US/NATO lead politicians taking every order from Washington. And what's funny, these European countries, UK, France, Germany etc. constantly lectures China on ''freedom, human rights and democracy'' when themselves don't even have sovereignty, their leaders can't even take decisions for themselves based on their own country and people's best interests. Their media has also been doing a great job over the past two decades brainwashing its population with anti Russia anti China lies and misinformation, the majority of European population live in their own deluded superiority bubble (I know this from my own extended family living in France and UK). Kissinger said well, "To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” I am afraid the fate of Europe is NOT bright and prosperous instead could collapse with the collapsing of the US empire, if they still don't wake up and fight for sovereignty. The US is NOT their friend, they do what capitalists always do, exploiting people and resources, this time their subject is Europe.
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@josephvargas7806 You contradicted yourself, China changed its governments in charge doesn't mean the country's territories changed nor it means each different government/party ruled China became a different independent country, Republic of China and later People's Republic of China both just different periods of the same ONE China, just like all the different dynasties of China, no matter the name, China is the same China. Not only you put out here bs history, you also have weired idea of when a country has a change of government, it is like saying, each time the US has a different government/party, it becomes an new country from the previous one, NO it doesn't. The territory remains the same the country remains the same country no matter who is ruling over, only a part of a country's territory can declare/become independent, and Taiwan has NEVER declared and become independent EVER.
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@josephvargas7806 Formosa, lol, you sound like some Portuguese colonisers desperately trying to get it back, but dream on buddy. It's been called Taiwan, part of Fujian province of China, a province officially under the Qing rule since 1600s, ruled also by previous Chinese dynasties since 1300s who kicked out of Western invaders and colonisers. It was Qing's to start with that was how it could cede control to Japan in an unfair treaty, and if you bothered to read my comment, Japan returned Taiwan, a Chinese territory illegally gained by Japan through its illegal imperialist wars with Qing back to ROC who inherited all Qing's territories. Stop trying to rewrite history, you are pathetic
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@josephvargas7806 Are you THICK? Qing China IS China, ROC IS China, PRC IS China, they are all the same ONE county called China owning the same historical territories. All China's historical territories are automatically transferred into the next ruling government, no matter the name. PRC China is the sole legitimate representative of the ONE China recognised by the United Nations, which means all Chinese historical territories belong to PRC and ROC too, Taiwan belongs to the ROC, Taiwan is a province of ROC, therefore a province of the PRC too, ROC is NOT a legitimate representative recognised by the United Nation, neither by the majority of UN member countries including the US, UK and all other Western countries. Taiwan is NOT and has NEVER been an independent country, it is a province of China, the PRC government represented China. No matter how hard you try to say otherwise.
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@perghosh8135 ''China emperors become rich mainly because of opium trade'' This is the most absurd and blatantly false claim I have ever heard from anyone, lol. Can't be further from the truth. The Chinese emperors and their officials banned the trade and consumptions of opium in 1840s, let alone made profits from it, the British monarchy did get rich by trading opium in China/India, by illegal smuggling and forcing the Chinese to consume it.
''This is why USA and Europe tries to destroy them self today, it is by influence of money and in the top is the rothschilds.'' Nope, the USA and Europe have been deindustrialising because of their capitalists' greed, they influenced their government to liberalise their economic/industrial policies so their capitalists can make maximum profits, they outsourced their labour and production abroad.
And again, China is not your ''Globalists' project''. China's economic/industrial and foreign policy has been completely sovereign, hence can fight against Western economic domination. Time you learn from reality rather than your wild conspiracy books.
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@supercooledliquid3136 lol, if my English was bad, yours is no better, plus you have comprehension issues. Check what you just wrote, it didn't make any sense. I bet you speak and write fluent Chinese, lol, if so, we can write in Chinese which I am a native speaker.
Is the president of US held responsible for 530,000 Covid deaths and his failures to protect his people? NO. Did Chinese officials lose their jobs over incompetencies to deal with the initial outbreaks, YES, plenty! And that was when no one knew very well the nature of the virus they were dealing with.
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God finally, I saw a sensible comment in here, Western media never tell people, Wuhan is a city with population of 11 million, and the province where Wuhan is has 60 million, it is the size of an European country and of course China has 1.4 billion most live in densely populated cities, so to quarantine several cities and provinces is by no mean easy, and I don't believe any other major country could do any better than China, and the West also never tell you that in China overall, the recovering rate is 90% and nationwide cases are decreasing steadily since the past week which is good news for the world too, if faced with the same situation, there is no way the West could do better as this virus is extremely easy to spread and China is doing everything it can to fight it but never good enough for the West. The Western media is all about fear mongering not really informing the public properly how to prevent the virus.
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@twoo1998 I am glad you have exposed of what a liar he really is, also a hate filled xenophobic ''Chinese'' Canadian with ''superior'' moral standards, who makes outrageous baseless accusations simply because his government was incompetent and foolish enough to have sourced masks NOT through the proper channels putting its medical stuff at risks but instead of owe up to their wrongdoings, they blame the government of China and pushing out the narrative that Chinese love to profit from crisis with no morals. If it is not because I must correct this outright smear and attack on my fellow mainland Chinese, I would have let this loser get away with this nonsense, but let me try be short and concise here: Chinese manufactures produce majority of the N95 masks used in the world, they are certified and regulated with standards set by China's own regulatory authorities as well as Western ones, any manufactures that produce ''fake'' or substandard masks would face domestic investigations by these authorities and a potential permanent ban from Western countries if the products were found to be not fit for purpose through random testings, which all countries do regularly. The only explanation behind the ''fake'' masks imported by Canadian government has to be that agencies working for the government and health authorities didn't go through the proper channels when sourcing their masks, because, for example, a Shanghai based medical supply company (Shanghai Dashen Health Products Ltd) which produces N95 masks that have consistently outperformed ''3M'' masks in filtration efficiency in tests carried out by the US, has been through its official website telling people they do not use any third party agencies/exporters to sell their masks, which means if anyone has bought masks with their brand logo through ''agencies/exporters'' they would have been scammed. There ARE people who take advantage of desperate situations, these people could be in anywhere, they are people with bad morals, yes, but to claim ALL Mainland Chinese have ZERO morals, that just make the claimer look beyond stupid and make anyone who sees it question the person's integrity and motivation. But we shall not doubt his integrity, because he has clearly NONE.
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rick rolling Honestly, you are very brainwashed by all the anti China talking points, ''China stealing technologies'' is just another blame China for all your problems talking point, is that why China has 5G and you don't, because they stole it? Clearly you don't believe the Chinese are capable people. And what has this got anything to do with Chinese people studying abroad? Chinese people have a right to pursue a good education anywhere just like anyone else, and China always welcome talents and Western technological advancement that would benefit mankind. China is open and happy to embrace the West, it is the West who keeps pushing China away, like what they did with Russia. Btw, there is no radical nationalism going on in China, it is called confidence and national pride, unlike perhaps what is happening in your country. There is just too much projection and narrow mindedness from you.
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@kittytrail LOL, you repeated almost all the Western anti China talking points but not provided a single example/country that China sold arms and goods to profit from wars and military aggression, as in death and destruction rather than for defensive purpose, then that is called normal trade, yeah, China makes things including weapons, to sell to countries who wants to defend themselves from the aggressors and warmongers, and that's the West. Btw, all your so called China is the aggressor examples are from the mainstream Western narrative, so pure bs and pure projection, do you even know where the current Chinese government in power came from? Obviously not, since you can't even spell its name correctly, the CPC was a revolutionary force made up by the suppressed who were living through Western colonialism and imperialism, they stay in power because the majority of the working class Chinese people want them to as they represent their interests. And China has always been pro peace hence their independent non alliance foreign policy. Anyway, I shall waste no more time with a brainwashed Westerner who can't be bothered to do your research but pretend to know things, have you ever even been to China?
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What a skewed view you got about China, lmao! Your MIC controlled warmonger gov't conducting what Anglo American pirate empire of lies has always been doing for centuries: destruction and exploitation of the whole world, and you blame it on China?? Your own people failed miserably to hold your corrupt gov't accountable, and you are relying on China's sanctions to somehow curb it? China is sanctioning your MIC because your lying gov't once again not respecting and following through the agreements it has signed with China, that recognising Taiwan as a part of China (do you even know?? You describes it as ''discrepancy'', lmao) China is NOT ''a new arbiter of neo colonialism'', China is a strong supporter globalisation (in term of international trade and cooperation) and a disciplined follower of multilateral institutions/trade platforms such as the WTO, which its rules were created by the US/West in the first place, though the US violates them when they don't serve its economic interests. China is only ''decoupling'' because it is forced to as the US/West seeks to starve China from Western tech, not because it wants to, as China sees trading with the US/West a part of its normal global trade. Your criticism of China is absurd, according to you China's crime is becoming an industrialised country, developed into an advanced productive economy and participating in world trade with the US/West. And that somehow is seen in your effed up view as ''China helping to fund neo colonial efforts''. It is utterly ridiculous. Hey, why don't you Americans try get your corrupt gov't to reindustrialise your country, stop spending all your tax money on foreign wars before you blame China for anything!
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@taxtard3 During ancient China prior to 1800s when it suffered (military) aggression and humiliation by Western powers, China viewed the West (Europeans) as uncivilised barbarian cultures, China was quite arrogant back then (especially during Qing dynasty 1600s-1900s), it was very reluctant to trade with the British/Europeans, as it thought they produced nothing of interest for the Chinese to trade in return, whereas China could almost produce everything its people needed from within (as a result, there was huge trade deficit between China and the West). But after Qing China lost two wars (1st and 2nd Opium War) to the British (plus a war with Imperial Japan) and fell into a semi colonised country, China for a while admired the science (mostly industrialisation) and social advance of the West, and during those few decades China wanted to follow/experiment with Western economic and political systems (between 1900s to 1940s), though unsuccessful because China simply didn't have condition to implement these Western systems.
But Western aggression (the Korean War) once again made the Chinese realise what the West has always been about, a colonialist/imperialist power that exploits and brutalises poor and defenceless nations. So the poor led Communist movement developed and its leader Mao wanted China to rapidly develop/industrialise, which China did (1950s -1970s), it set a foundation for further industrialisation from 1980s when the US started to invest and work with China (for the purpose of defeating Soviet Union in the Cold War). Deng embraced a part Capitalist market economy stressing he wanted the rich few to lead economic prosperity for China. And now 40 years later, China has achieved the status of 2nd largest economy in the world (through working closely with the US/West). Even though most Chinese during this period have hold largely favourable views towards the US/West, they still very much remember and understand all the West has been doing is trying to convert China to be one day like the West. So because of this reason, China is always cautious of West's intentions. What I can tell you is that, Chinese people value sovereignty/independence (both economically and politically) above all else, and so far they have done very well. The Chinese will never become like the West, which is a good thing. Furthermore, due the recent tech sanctions and the contain China rhetoric from the US/West, there is an increasing anti West sentiments, but in general no hatred towards the West/Westerners in the Chinese population.
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@drp.c.7543 Correction, Chinese people are very patriotic, not nationalistic, and they have every reason to be, no different to any other people from any other country, and btw, the CCP are the people, from the people and among the people, there are 90 million of them in China, forming a very important part of the Chinese society. And again Chinese people do not support the CCP because they are forced to do so, they do so out of their own free will and independent thinking.
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@drp.c.7543 Nice to have had the discussions with you too, however I don't expect to change your mind about China, China is very misunderstood by the West and this will sadly continue, I don't mind you provide some examples, In fact I typed a long paragraph talking about the terrorism problems in Xinjiang, but I lost the reply, anyway I want you to know that if you are interested in China then read more about it or listen to many China Youtubers, many of them are Westerners living in China, it will help you to learn about how Chinese people think how China works, it will be very different what comes out of your media, and finally whatever the West do and talk to China about, they should never apply double and multi standard and they should treat China with respect, because this is what we do as normal people, right?
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Those are very interesting and thought provoking questions you are asking in the video. China has made amazing achievements and progress in a short period of time, am very impressed as a Chinese (been living in the West for over 20 years). The level of development (or the lack of it) in where I live in the West is uncomparable to China, especially in the past decade. China (Beijing to be precise) is still a giant construction site, it always amazes me every time I am back for a visit. I wish you could understand Chinese, then you would be able to get insights from Chinese intellectuals like 翟东升 (Di Dongsheng) , 温铁军 (Wen Tiejun), and others. They have inside knowledge of Chinese gov't economic policies, developmental strategies and on the ground expertise in their each respective field of study, there are teams of experts like them providing advices to the Chinese government's various departments. In one video of Wen Tiejun, he said, many of the infrastructure projects (not limited to transportation infrastructure projects), especially in Western China, were funded by Chinese governmental bonds (a lot of it, many were deducted directly from the wages of governmental employees), i.e. funded by the Chinese people's own savings (China has the highest saving rate in the world). I've never known about that... It is quite easy to conclude why China has been this successful so far, their hard working ethic, their resilience, their positive attitude in the face of difficulties and more.
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That's what the Anglo-American empire does, they rewrite history in favour of their narratives, to satisfy their ego and superiority complexes, to continue to indulge in delusion (of their so called system even racial superiority) and brainwash the Western public so they go along with their racist supremacist world domination agenda, it has been working very well so far. Their outright lies and false narratives are spread through their educational system, media and governments' agencies, most their people just wholeheartedly believe what they are fed to (about these so called enemy countries), what can they do when they are conditioned since birth, told that they have a free and independent media. The rest of the world knows their own history as well as the true accounts of Western colonial history (as they suffered a great deal from it), they have always understood what the US/Western powers are all about: wolves in sheep's clothing; the emperor with no clothes and pirates who forever loot, kill and plunder.
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@nrao8977 ''China of today did not exist 100 years ago.'' You are completely ignorant, but sorry I don't have time to give you a Chinese history lesson. Do your own research (not from Western MSM).
''China is kept together by a certain force, if I may call it so, which is not universally accepted even within China.'' That ''force'' is not what you insinuate here (if I understood you correctly), that ''force'' is however mostly coming from the unique Chinese culture and long history, which again you are clearly ignorant of.
Keep watching the lying Western MSM... And trust me, I can inform you as a Chinese, China is NOT going to come apart, though I won't say never, but not in the time frame you are thinking of. (hint: we are talking about a civilization state with a 4000 years history and had dynasties stood as long as 300 years.) And right now, the Chinese are doing better than they have ever been, just look at global surveys about how confident they feel about the direction their country is going (a simple Google search). It is a complete day and night picture in comparison to citizens from Western countries.
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200 years ago, China lost almost every war with then major Western powers, it was forcefully opened up and became a semi-colony, the Chinese lived as second class citizens in parts of their own land. Then the US/West tried again to regime change China with the Korean and Vietnam wars, but ended up being defeated. And today, the US/West could only verbally threaten China. Trump's trade war with China has essentially failed, I believe all current and future tech sanctions will also backfire ending up hurting the US more on the long run, economic decoupling with China is almost impossible. I think the US/West knows full well that aside from a direct war with China, there really isn't much it could do to stop China from surpassing the US/West, in fact China has already surpassed the US/West on so many fields. So the only thing the US could do these days is verbal threats, as a Chinese, I feel quite good to see how rapidly the US empire is losing its confidence and influence.
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@carterf2312 No I don't need to watch any documentary, I documented with my own eyes, I was there on the square, I am from Beijing, I saw everything, most of everything portrayed by the West about it were lies, I care about China more than you do, lol, China is doing very well and has more democracy and freedom than the US, save your pity and fake sympathy and spread your CIA message to someone else, you picked the wrong person, I, different from you, know both China and the West very well having spent 20 years in each, keep indulge in your western anti China propaganda, sorry nobody in China is falling for it.
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@carterf2312 And let me tell you a little of what I saw, since your western media never wanted to show you, I saw many young unarmed soldiers got brutally murdered lit on fire, burnt alive and stomach cut open and hung on an over bridge by a rioters and thugs, the students were used by a few traitors that were paid by the West to push for a colour revolution to overthrown the Chinese government, the government that kicked out the Western imperialists and founded the New China for the poor, but ultimately, the West failed. NO Chinese would allow China to be a puppet of the West, the West never cares about democracy freedom and human rights of the Chinese, it only wants to dominate China and exploit it, the Chinese are not stupid, we have seen through this long long time ago.
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Eventually, it would be all round losses for the US, potentially losing a massive exporting market of 20% of world population, once the market will be lost, it will be lost for good. As a Chinese, I think the decoupling by the US will be good for China on the long term, this will force China to develop and upgrade its own technology needs, and no longer rely on the US/West, as the US is increasingly becoming unreliable and untrustworthy. Already, Chinese people are buying more home brands, which offer value and quality. Sanctioning China will be in effect the US sanctioning itself.
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@spartan.falbion2761 "In terms of population growth, the Uyghur population in Xinjiang has continued to grow. According to data from successive national censuses, the Uyghur population was 3,607,600 in 1953, 3,991,600 in 1964, 5,955,900 in 1982, 7,191,800 in 1990, 8,345,600 in 2000, 10,013,000 in 2010, and 11,624,300 in 2020. The net increase in population between each of the two censuses was 384,000, 1,964,300, 1,235,900, 1,153,800, 1,655,700 and 1,623,000, with average annual growth rates of 0.92 per cent, 2.25 per cent, 2.38 per cent, 1.5 per cent, 1.83 per cent and 1.52 per cent, respectively. The above data show that after the founding of New China, the Uyghur population generally maintained a high level of growth, basically in line with the trend of population development in Xinjiang.
Since entering the new century, the Uyghur population has grown from 8,345,600 in 2000 to 11,624,300 in 2020, with an average annual growth rate of 1.67 percent, much higher than the national average annual growth rate of 0.83 percent for the ethnic minority population during the same period."
Btw, before you attempt to push out your anti China narrative, at least learn to spell correctly the name of the ethnic group you are pretending to care for, lmao
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@brasshouse-fireball Well I hope you are not an American or from an ''ally'' country of the American empire. Because the reality is that the US/Western imperialism is spread in your names, your democratic vote put your government and their imperialist policies there. So in that sense, you don't have the moral superiority. I am from a country that has suffered and is suffering Western imperialism. Russia might have imperialistic ambitions but by far, well until 3 days ago, the West has been a way worse imperialistic power, invading and colonising countries and regions far away from ''home'' for no legitimate reason. About the speech, I would argue that all these ex soviet member countries Putin was talking about all had strong ties either ethnically or ideologically to Russia, to want to restore the ''empire'' that as a matter of fact broken up by the West, all because Russia at the time naively believed it would be welcomed as a part of the West once it became a capitalist country, but it turns out, today Russia is still considered the West's enemy and getting encircled by NATO. Again, I think it is wrong to invade a country for any reason but I think that was the sentiment expressed in Putin's speech, a sense of resentment towards the West, which I completely understand.
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@brasshouse-fireball Well, I knew you would be repeating all your MSM bs talking points on China as most brainwashed Americans do. That 100 million number is complete nonsense because that would be 1 in 4 people of the population then has died, no one in my family nor anyone I know died in the famines, because China went on to almost quadrupled its population in just 60 years, so no that number is just bs, and if anything Western sanctions contributed to the event, oh yes, this is another great deed your country is doing all over the world, literally starving people from food and medicine with its sanctions everywhere. Also the Tiananmen square massacre never happened, revealed by your own state department leaked cables, another lie fabricated by your government for the past 30 years. The US incited the Hong Kong violent riot and colour revolution in 2019, and of course it was the British empire who stole Hong Kong off China by forcing the Chinese to take its opium and when China refused it just bombed its shore, so yes for someone clearly not interested in history, all that is not important to you, your country together with other imperialist powers have been the root cause for most human suffering on planet earth, at least a million people have died from your middle east wars, a mere sorry is far from enough. This is what I mean, you have absolutely no moral authority to lecture anyone.
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@robertcox14 ''Nixon met Mao in 1971/72 and a deal was made and Western companies were encouraged to move manufacturing to China.'' I bet they (your government and media) have never told you the most important incentive for the visit was getting China on the US side in helping the US to win the cold war against Soviet Union. And why was the US/West encouraging its capitalists to move manufacturing to China? Because of your government's Neoliberal economic policies, an ultra liberal capitalistic policy where profit making became your capitalists main driving goal, or in other words, the greed of your capitalists hollowed out your own manufacturing industry (you can't blame China). Your capitalists went to China to take advantages of the competitive and well trained Chinese labour for their own material and monetary gains. Btw, China DOES have labour laws and regulations, factories with sub par working conditions and pay would be fined and punished, don't buy into the anti China propaganda that China doesn't care about its workers, plus, first and foremost the Western companies that subcontracted the facilities should take care of its workers, if they failed to then that reflects badly on them, not the Chinese government.
Meng Wanzhou is not one of the ''Chinese oligarchs'', again Western projection. The truth is Capitalists in China can be extremely wealthy (they are perfectly allowed to by per governmental policy) but they have zero say in policy making and politics of China, unlike in the US/West.
I agree to a large extend, foreign investments contributed greatly to the Chinese economy as they provided jobs for hundreds of millions of people, but it can in no way claim all the credit for the Chinese economical transformation, in fact, what happened is both the result of Chinese government's pragmatic economic policy and the US' need to cooperate with China in order to win the cold war. It was a win-win.
And finally, China is NOT the next ''globalists'' project. What it basically did was beaten the US/West in its own game, that's why the US is so upset, the Chinese socialist model is helping ordinary people prosper whereas the Western capitalists greed is making the people poorer.
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@robertcox14 China is NOT an imperialist power, if it is then, you've just altered the definition of ''imperialism''. At least I have not heard imperialists building schools, hospitals, railways and other essential infrastructure in developing countries NOT for the sole purpose of exploiting its resources as the US/West has done. And with ONE military base, it would be hard for China to run an empire. China is only interested in mutual beneficial trade and business cooperation, it has no intention to run the world as a world police.
China's pollution (partly due to being the world's factory) is getting better, thanks to China's commitment to alternative energy consumption. The hypocritical West has a way worse historical record on pollution, and per capita, yet not doing half as much as China to combat climate crisis.
As a Chinese, I am happy to inform you of the reality of China, or you could learn from Ben, all you need to do is keeping an open mind...
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@SylvanApe Are you from the UK, let me guess, I am surprised you are not up in arms about the appalling mishandling of the outbreak by your government when still up to today there is no community testing, no proper PPE for hospitals and nursing homes and no checks and quarantine for travellers, surely the most basic human rights is the right to health well being and basic protection for safety. So you know some people apparently got welded shut in China so they couldn't get to hospital, so you assume that is the case for all people there, is it? How come we see pictures and videos of people getting seen and treated in hospitals and that count for at least 80,000 confirmed people, oh, the Chinese built two 1000 beds hospitals to house the patients and they were full until a few weeks ago, so at least someone manage to get to hospitals then, clearly your claim is nonsense. When I said lets see how many dead there will be I meant I want to see how many dead there will be in the UK, US, the West, not China, obviously you have comprehension problem it is understandable. But at least you are being humble not claiming the West have the perfect human rights, but you obviously think you have ''some'' but Chinese have none, this claim is beyond ridiculous I can't even be bothered to argue with you, you have obviously not noticed that millions of Chinese students and tourists routinely go to the West and back to China freely, how come they are allowed to do that in a country that have no freedom and human rights? You are so brainwashed by your anti China media my friend, your claims about China are beyond laughable, but again if you are from the UK, please do enjoy the disaster that is unfolding there, it is the worst affected country in Europe and of course follow the the worst country US as always.
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The West's herd immunity approach over the past years created all these extremely spreadable variants that are impossible for China to contain anymore, now they blame China for opening up, lol, your own people have by now got prob 3,4 times of Covid just this year because you let it rip through the population while China has been locking down trying to protect its people from all these variants from the West at the expense of its economy, don't be so cry baby you West, you blame China both ways, Covid-zero: no human rights, opening up: no human rights, you can't have your cake and eat it too, can you not even see your own hypocrisy?
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@mikeyrose4183 While you are entitled to your opinions about the Chinese nation and its people based on your personal experience and observations, I can't help to sense your deep bias and ignorance against China. Your knowledge about China is clearly outdated, and hubris and boasting is the least thing one would associate with the Chinese, the Chinese hardly ever brag about their achievements, because humility and self reflection is part of their culture, they always look forward to future improvement, and are never satisfied with what they have now. These are just facts.
Have you seen a Chinese branded EV lately? Have you travelled on a Chinese high speed train lately? Have you experienced the fast and well covered (mobile) internet infrastructure, seen an architect subway station or a new modern airport? Have you learned about the Chinese space exploration programme, their success rate of sending rockets into space, their space station modules? Have you checked out China's latest military innovation? It is very obvious you try your best to dismiss China's success, from an extremely poor semi colonised country to a fully industrialised world 2nd largest economy in just 40 years (no other country on this earth has done the same). Oh, by the way, not so long ago, before European aggression against China in the 1800s, Chinese products (silk, tea, porcelain, and many more) were among the most sought after products of the Western world (not to mention the ancient Chinese inventions that the West took for granted for, gunpower, paper making, printing, compass)... and all the way back to the Han dynasty (200BC) when merchants were trading Chinese goods through the silk road... The West, got their riches to start industrialisation from looting the raw material and resources from Africa, Latin America, Asia, including the silver they used to pay to the Chinese. Russia was a part of the European gang of empires who looted and invaded China too.
So no, I won't accept your view about Chinse people lack creativity, the Chinese know full well how important innovation and industrialization is in keeping them independent from Western exploitation... China has been the top country for many years in a row, to file most new patents.
But anyway, China never needs approval and recognition from anyone. You have a lot to learn about China. People can see through your ignorance and bias in an instance, as I said, we are not stupid, we know the facts.
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@kordellswoffer1520 I did say ''The potential economical benefit is not even easily measurable...'' I did NOT say it is difficult to measure so that equals to no or little economical benefit, what I meant was the economical benefits are beyond measurable with only monetary means. My point is weighing up short/medium term monetary costs is largely meaningless because these projects are built for the long run, and it will always be more beneficial on the long run as with most HSR, even if it means running it for years at a loss, but people could not live without them, it is the case in many Western countries too.
''Chinese citizens lives have improved and it's got nothing to do with the HSR, people lives have been improving all around the world with or without HSR.'' Complete nonsense, again you are talking out of thin air, not backing up your claim with any meaningful data or personal experience as someone who have prob never lived in China, what made you say people's lives have not improved because of the HSR? You think China just build lines and lines of HSR just to waste money? Again, it is a public service like mail service, and it is subsidised by the government so everyone can benefit not just the rich.
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I am a Chinese have been living in the UK for 20 years, the way the BBC portrays China, hasn't changed for all this time, the China it wants you to know, is a backward, poor, horrible place, people uneducated poor and brainwashed. It intentionally portrays China like as if it was a century ago. I kept telling the British people that China has been changing for the better and very fast, but of course they don't believe me. The reason BBC make fake news about China to me is racism, yes, there is no need to deny it, it is the Yellow Peril mentality of the West, they can not deal with China, especially a socialist China that is doing better than them, they need to make fake news to fool themselves and feel better, it is that simple.
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@bathhatingcat8626 China discovered an outbreak of an unknown disease in Wuhan in December, and informally notified WHO on 31st Dec 2019 and Wuhan health commission issue a warning to its medical professionals and public of the presence of this disease. A formal report was given to WHO on 3 Jan 2020. WHO then informed the CDC of US and health authorities of other countries on the same day. There were however not enough evidence around this time to suggest human to human transmission. As cases increases and first death occurred scientists in China sequenced the virus’s genome and made it available on Jan. 10 to WHO. On the 15th Jan the Wuhan health commission stated that human to human transmission is possible and multiple measures such as temperature checks and advice for the public to wear masks rolled out in Wuhan. At 10 am on the 23rd of Jan, Wuhan government declared the highest level of health emergency and sealed of all ports in Wuhan and large scale quarantine started in the whole Hubei province. On January 30, 2020, the World Health Organization declared the 2019-nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern confirming human to human transmission.
So when you say all throughout Jan to Feb China was trying to cover this up is simply lies, you don't live in Wuhan and don't work for a Chinese company as you claim, because you said it yourself, your company sent you an email telling you this virus is spreading, where did your company get the information from? I can only think of it was the local health authority of Wuhan sent a message to warn everyone. So if China was trying to cover up, how come you get an email telling you the truth? In fact China didn't even cover it up for 3 week, they had a delayed response due to the virus being new and they did not know fully the extend the contagiousness of the virus, you really should try better as just simply claiming you live in Wuhan to gain credibility is more than embarrassing, and since China is so evil, what are you doing there apart from trying to profit from the large Chinese market and economy? Don't you feel ashamed of yourself to continue working inside a horrible country? Try better next time!
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The problem is that the Western media can not be trusted for making an honest report when it comes to China, they have an infamous track record of manipulating and spinning the truths in order to portray China in a certain view, you really can't blame the people who were featured in the report not to be mindful of the Western media's intentions, these people are not being ''coached'', they are being made aware what their innocent words could be cut and edited to fit the Western narrative on Xinjiang, and also there are so many things does not make sense because CNN has no intention to explain to you the full and complete story and context, the fact that family who had 6 children tells me they broke the Chinese law, but the CNN will never tell you China's preferential birth policy for its ethnic minorities, the fact that they are allowed to have more children than the Han, because that will break the narrative of ''genocide''. They will also never tell you the terrorist attacks by Uyghur separatist funded and trained by the US, carried out all over China that killed both Uyghurs and Han, because this would explain some of the measures the Chinese governments had to take to prevent future attacks. This is not real journalism as they brand themselves to have, this is propaganda, anyways, any attempts to divide and destabilise a part of China by the West would be futile, the fact that Xinjiang is now peaceful and prosperous I guess that is why they West is upset and pushing out this ''genocide'' narrative with desperation.
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Johnny, let me tell you how this conflict could be avoided if you genuinely care to know, it is very simple: America butt out of this region and leave China and Taiwan alone. But of course that is not going to happen because Taiwan is too important geopolitically for the US to give up (not because you give a shit about Taiwan's democracy or freedom, you never cared about those things). And before you and you arrogant Westerners decide if Taiwan should be allowed to secede from China, please apply the same standard to your own country and imagine a situation where a part of the US would be allowed to secede without any US military intervention, mostly likely not, so don't be hypocritical about China's decisions over Taiwan. Imagine China is aiding a region in the US financially, militarily and ideologically in order for it to become independent, it would not be tolerated for a second by the US, why do you think China would tolerate Taiwan to be separated away with the aid of Western powers? You speak like as if it is something shocking to you that China will take (none peaceful) means to prevent part of its territory from being divided for the interest of a foreign country, give me a break, stop acting, it is just cringeworthy what you are putting on here. What I found amazing is that since when the US uses diplomatic peaceful means to sort out problems in the world, you just bomb the shit out of countries for you own economical and geopolitical gains, how many people died at the hands of US illegal wars and sanctions, if any country has any moral authority to lecture China about peace and the value of human lives, it is certainly not the US. Taiwan is China's, however you like China or not, it is China's, it is a matter for all the Chinese to decide what they do with their own territory, and if you really cared about peace, not pretends to care, then honestly leave China alone and look inward to your own country and try to sort out your own shit before meddling other countries businesses, you know full well all the shit the US/West has ever stirred up all over the world, the world have had quite enough of your imperialistic bullshit.
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@bruce3195 I like when you conveniently missed out the genocides of millions of Muslims that the West has been committing in all its illegal wars in the Middle East for the past 20 years, and the genocide that is happening right now in Yemen which the West supports and provides arms for. The whole world knows the US and the UK invaded Iraq over lies and completely destroyed that country, killing at least 500,000 innocent civilians and left many more homeless and disabled. It it not whataboutism, it is a war crime the West never wants to talk about and be held accountable hence Julian Assange is in prison tortured and silenced. The UK stole Hong Kong away after failing to force tons more drugs down Chinese people's throat, while it never gave Hong Kong democracy during its 150 years rule and now hypocritically claims that it cares about people's democracy there, after its return, China gave the Hong Kong people's right to choose their own leader instead of getting a white man sent over by the British monarch that treat the people like second class citizen.
The ''history'' you learned about China in the West are the propagated version based on lies and ideology bias, ''Tiananmen square massacre'' is a complete lie based on lies and hearsay, which was revealed later on by both student leaders and foreign diplomats and journalists who were on the square, they admitted either lying or have only reported on hearsay, leaked US diplomatic cables also confirmed that the US government had always known there has never been a massacre taken place on the square.
The land of Xinjiang was a part of China since 2nd century BC, Tibet was a part of China in the mid 13 century as well as Mongolia which both formed parts of the Mongol empire. They didn't join so called China, they were conquered and ruled by various of ethnicities which are still members of China's 56 ethnic groups of today. Your history of China is so shallow and written from a Western lens, it showed through.
The ''genocide'' in Xinjiang is a baseless lie as well purely propagated by the West for the purpose to contain China, what actually happened was China was dealing with the terrorism that was funded and created by the West to destabilize that region and sabotage China's one belt one route project.
The West has no say in how China would control its own territory sovereignty, not until it stops bullying other defenceless nations with military aggression and using underhanded means to overthrew foreign governments so to control them, the West has zero moral high ground to stand on to lecture China, mind your own business and maybe just maybe learn how to respect other countries' sovereignty by not invading them first? It is far too hard isn't it!
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@bruce3195 For the West to send groups of military ships to the sea where they have no claim is certainly very peaceful way to solve a problem, you are repeating what Western propaganda media is feeding you, China is the threat, China is trying to control, China is supressing... they never told you the other nations invaded and illegally occupy many of the islands that China owned historically and well recorded in historical documents since ancient times, the West will never tell you that, because like you, they are not interested in the past, they are there to contain China's rise, creating conflicts and divisions in that region.
What ''agreement'' that you think China is not fulfilling to the UK over Hong Kong? This is anther propaganda lie your government fed you, Hong Kong was handed over to China in 1997, and all the ''agreement'' to the UK throughout the handover period has been fulfilled in the so called joint declaration which is only valid for the handing over, after the hand over, the Basic Law is what was set out about China's ''promise'' to Hong Kong and there is no item in the ''Basic law'' that China has broken, there is no mention in it of any universal suffrage to Hong Kong people, it is stated loud and clear the leaders of Hong Kong is through selection by the central government and Hong Kong ought to make law to ensure its regional national security and territory sovereignty which it failed to do since its return and therefore the central government has made up that gap. So stop lying about the UK's hypocritical claims, it is only meddling in Hong Kong because it follows the order of the US, creating trouble for China, creating instability in Hong Kong to contain China.
Yes, surprise surprise you are brainwashed by Western propaganda, tons of it. If I wasn't on the square to see it with my own eyes, I would have bought the lies about Tiananmen, the West's propaganda machine is very powerful and successful sadly. There is not a single footage of the so called massacre on the square, none, because it never happened, the Tank man never suffered a scratch either, he walked away helped by a friend, that part of the video never shown to you by the Western media. The West is full of lies, if I have not lived in both China and the West I would have never known the truths.
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@alanhenderson6497 You don't have to believe me, but as a Chinese person who understand very well of what is happening in China, I can actually tell you that the majority of the Mainland Chinese and part of Taiwan population wants to unify by force asap, yes, just look at the comment sections of many Chinese language YouTube Channels on the Taiwan topic, that is if you could read Chinese, something the Western media would never tell you. The Chinese government is supressing this sentiment and obviously you know why. The Chinese government might not run like the Western governments with so called one person one vote, which strictly speaking it is not actually the case for many so called Western democratic countries, public opinions in China nevertheless matters to the government in power, and the Chinese government's legitimacy could be at stake if they could not handle the Taiwan issue properly. I think you would recognise that China is a capable country and it has its redlines when it comes to its sovereignty, so the West needs to measure up carefully when it comes to intervening with China's affairs, because like I said I believe no one wants to be in WW3.
And funny anyone speaks for China would always be seen as promoting China's interests as if it is not legitimate thing to do, I am just telling you the perspective from China, truth don't care about opinions, as a Chinese why wouldn't I defend my country's rightful interests, somehow that is seen as wrong or nationalist, this is a totally Western mentality, the overwhelming majority of Chinese support their government, that is another thing the Western media would never tell its people.
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@alanhenderson6497 Lol, there is no such thing as Chinese state sponsored spies or bots spreading misinformation, I can tell you they are just people like me, wanted to give you accounts of truth or narrative from the Chinese perspective, but you will make your own mind up.
And finally, I can't help but to find your logic quite laughable, so the RN went to China's shore to exercise its harmless freedom of navigation, then China had an reaction for no good reason, and the UK then ''defend'' itself at China's shore using all necessary means, I am sorry how is that ''defending'' the UK while you are thousands of miles away from your own territory and while China has not offend you militarily in your own territory beforehand, unless you think the world is yours then again I think we did talk about the UK is no longer an empire no more.
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@alanhenderson6497 You just spread almost all Western anti China talking points in your comment, most are unsubstantiated bs fed to you by your government's mouth piece media, I thought you are reasonable and able to think critically, but you are just another brainwashed Westerner, China is not a threat, the West is, China hasn't started wars after wars, the West did, if the West and people like you insist to make China the enemy, then you will get one, so the question is are you prepared to end the world, that is what it means to have a all out confrontation with China, if not, the best thing is to work with China by respecting it first, stop making China the enemy and accepting its peaceful not "rise" but return to it former position as it has been in history, an ancient civilization of 5000 years history, nothing and no one could stop China from rightfully maintaining its rightful interests for itself and improving its people's lives. The West cannot and will not contain China in order to continue its hegemonic rule. The Chinese has never and will never submit to the racist imperialistic rule of the West.
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@alanhenderson6497 BTW, don't wait until Taiwan to stop trade, tell your government to stop trading with China now, do it, let's see what happens, your government lied to you, your capitalists don't care about you, they sold out your country's industries for greed and profit, like I said, ask your country to pull out all its businesses and stop exporting goods to China NOW, see what will happen, they rely on China for many things, but if China lost the West for trade, they still has the rest of the world, the majority of the world's population to trade with, if you think it is that easy to "kill" China, you are just having a wild dream, wake up from your white supremacy imperialistic dream already, this is the 21st century, not the 1800s. China is a fully industrialised country with biggest population in the world, if it is that easy to "kill" China, why hasn't the West done it already, what are they waiting for?
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@alanhenderson6497 LOL, the lamest threats I have seen from anyone, it is not illegal to access western sites from China, millions do it everyday all day long, I have also reported you for hate speech and harrasment. You still have not explain why your account is only registered 2 months ago, unless you are a CIA bot, but one thing is for sure you support the supremacist hegemonic rule of the West, but hopefully it will go down with history soon, but of course dragging everyone with them, I am glad you are not afraid, neither am I.
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@khoi pham cao Overtook the US by a thousand times or more for the lives saved by China's Covid measures, clearly all the lives lost in the West don't mean much to you typical of someone who supports Western neoliberal capitalism where money is always placed before lives.
Your dollars could be worthless in an instance because it is backed by literally nothing (toilet paper), whereas Yuan is backed by solid manufacturing capability and physical gold, look at which country is the biggest trading partner of most countries in the world, yes, that's China. China dominates world trade and (advanced) manufacturing, half of the Western shopping malls would be empty if China stops exporting. Btw, Australian iron ore companies (Australia's pillar industry) trade with China in Yuan, and they begged China for this, Russia trades in Yuan supplying huge volume of high demand resources to China. And Saudi Arabia could kick start the Petroyuan any day, just don't want upset the US too soon, lol. It is the type of goods and amount being traded in Yuan that matter. China is doing a favour for most countries to trade in Dollars because it is easier for them, but everyone knows once it is ditched as a currency for trade, it is worth nothing.
About your other "points", my friend already addressed them very well in his reply, you are right in a way, China has never dominated and will never dominate the world, not in the same way as how the US has been doing (world police), but on trade, infrastructure development and development of some advanced science and technologies, China already dominates. Conclusion, you need a reality check ✔
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@kphamcao "I have heard top talents wanting to go to the US. Nobody want to go to China." This again, is not reality, I guess you didn't hear recently some 1400 Chinese scientists are leaving America for China, btw, Chinese (born and educated in China) scientists dominates the technology scene in the US, surely that doesn't make America look too good, it actually confirms China's ability to produce talents cannot be matched by the West. Anyway, keep your Anglo centric vision, if that make you feel better. You might just be another one of this self hating Asians, whereas most Asians feel more pride with China's rise, instead, you call this " grandiosity compex", lol. Last time I checked, it is the Westerners who tend to suffer superiority complex.
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@kphamcao These ''Chinese'' scientists don't need me convincing them to return to China, they make their own choices where they want to work and pay taxes, but that still does not change the fact that China's education system gave them the competitive edge and a solid foundation to do well wherever they choose to be.
Did you read my comment properly? I said most Asians feel positive about China's rise, as they overall benefit from this, as explained in my comment, and again I have never asked you to ''like'' or ''love'' China, or anything it does, you are the one who keeping interpreting that way and feeling somehow I am asking you to like China, again where have I even hinted that I think all Asians must like China. But it is a fact, most Chinese people who hate China doing well are self hating Chinese. I met many of them.
''None of China's neighbor harbor any love for China. Among the debt traps, the condescending attitude, the constant sea harassment, the hypocrisy to complain about the US while attempting to do the exact same things. I could go on for days. It is you who need to meet reality.'' This is again, not reality, but mostly Western anti China talking points, and there is no such country as ''China loving'' country, there is only countries who love its self interests, so what they do is to strike a balance between ''loving'' China and the West for its own self interests, but evidence tells me no China's Asian neighbours want to pick a clear stand with the West, and all of them want to benefit from a rising China, and this is all the reality I need to know.
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The following is a comment reply I received earlier, please read it and pass this message to more people.
安之若素
I am in China and this is a preparatory disease and no one encourages wearing face mask in the UK as preventative measures but only washing hands which is to my surprise. The statistics in China is that 50% of the patient do not have high fever at the start and even with no symptoms but very contagious during the incubation period (14-28). People get infected in just 15 seconds interactions. 1/5 will develop sever conditions which need to be looked after at intensive care/ critical care and 60% of these serve cases will result in death. Pls. keep in mind that in 2 months, China has built 2 new hospitals ( 2000 beds ) and 25 container hospitals for containing the virus of the infected. 40K medical staff had poured into Hubei with its own 150K medical staff.
Sth more from a person from wuhan
I'm a Chinese from Wuhan, I hope anyone who sees my message understand/spread out my message that all big metropolitan cities around the world should adopt measures such as the 1000-bed makeshift hospitals that accommodate the coronavirus carriers(including asymptomatic and suspected cases) to prevent more healthy people from being infected . Don't let those mild/asymptomatic virus carriers off home because they will infect their family members if they don't live alone. The coronavirus has long incubation period (can be up to 24 days, before people realise they are infected), and long therapeutic period (which means occupation of the hospital resources for too long/per patient in hospitals), mild-severe patients will soon flood hospitals needing some level of medical intervention, but hospital beds won't be enough in any metropolitan city (Korea/Italy are both already experiencing tsunami of incoming COVID-19 patients in hospitals, which is exactly what Wuhan hospitals started to experience in mid-January until recently, a month after Wuhan lock-down). If these mild to mid-severe patients can't be treated in time by professionals, many of them will develop into severe-critical condition patients, and may die eventually although they could be saved if medical intervention came available earlier in their illness development. The only effective measure to stem the spread of the virus, and to lessen pressure on public health infrastructure is to identify anyone who may have been infected (adding the result of Computed Tomography Scan result showing lungs infection images into clinical diagnostic criteria to aid diagnose, relying solely on virus test lab results could be misleading and wrongly releasing virus carriers into society, which in turn seed the possibility of more people infected) , isolate them into quarantine locations stringently and immediately. This is the only way to reduce the amount of people that may die caused by lack of medical resources. Otherwise the death rate of the COVID-19 will be far higher than 2%.
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@siddnneeyy So explain why in ROC's constitution it states that Mainland China is part of its territory and even outer Mongolia which has been independent is still marked as part of ROC. The PLA planes went directly over Taiwan several times in the past few months, but not officially confirmed by PRC, no retaliation whatsoever took place, and just to give you another clue, the PLA stands for People's liberation Army, why? because it is yet to ''liberate'' Taiwan. Being a part of China means that PRC China, the majority UN member countries recognised ''China'' and its territory claims over Taiwan is also recognised by the UN, disregards Taiwan's point of view over the matter and how it is governed.
And finally, Taiwan will be unified with PRC, it is just a matter of time and method, neither Taiwan nor Mainland China has the power and right to separate the territory of Taiwan away from ''China'', whatever that China means.
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@siddnneeyy Taiwan was/is controlled by an entity that the PRC considers their enemy, so thinks the ROC, remember they are still at war, OK? I don't know how many times I need to address this to you. Taiwan is a part of China is what ROC and PRC constitutions claim, and most UN member countries recognise, all these are not enough? LOL, I just wasted all those time with you, it is not up to you how you interpreted depends on how you fell like, it is up to organizations like the UN, lol. So since you don't think Taiwan is a part of China in actual fact then that gives even more reason for China to unify Taiwan so it will be officially a part of China, which ever that China stands. Goodbye and good lock.
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CHRIS HYNES Sorry mate, The territory of Taiwan is a part of China and no one can change that fact, even if the CPC would recognise Taiwan independence the majority of the Mainland Chinese would not accept it, you forget that the opinions of the Mainland Chinese matters on this as well, I like your proposal to have the Mainland Chinese vote if they would accept Taiwan independence, the answer will be a resounding NO. In fact surveys carried out over the years has already reveals this outcome. Quite funny you coming from a democratic country, you have no problem ignoring the wishes of the 1.4 billion Mainland Chinese people.
It was Mainland China who has been trying to unify peacefully with Taiwan over the decades, it was Taiwan who treated China with hostility and cut off all methods of communications for peace talks and betting on ''help'' of the Western forces to separate a part of territory from China. But of course your Western lying media would not be telling you all of these.
Taiwan issue is an internal issue of China, as a Westerner your opinion do not matter one bit, and if you are thinking about replying me with all sorts of nonsensical anti China attacks and false accusations that your government spewed out onto China and the Chinese people in the past few years, you can save it, you got what your deserved, I can not even begin to tell you how much welcome and support people have about what their government is doing to your country. It is long overdue. Everyone knows especially in the West, you treat your customers with dignity and respect, this is the most basic ethic in business and trade. It has nothing to do with diplomacy.
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CHRIS HYNES ''Your "brittle" personalities, coupled with a lack of humour, makes you extremely untrustworthy and unlikeable! Gee, I hope I'm not "exaggerating'.''
Wow, I could use almost the exact same descriptions for a LOT of people I have seen and met in the West, and add on top, arrogant, lack of self awareness and reflection, selfish and can't careless attitude, basically all the worst traits anyone could ever possess. LOL. And these applies even more so these days together with hate and jealousy too as China rises. About the ''saving face'', it shows you total ignorance of China and Chinese people, if you care to learn about China's history you will know China never has any problem accepting ''short comings'' but they won't like the ''in your face'' style of the West, being humble and self reflecting is in the Chinese culture as well as reluctance for confrontations, your country's top leaders clearly didn't understand this while your neighbour New Zealand did. And if the West keeps provoking for unnecessary confrontations then China is perfectly capable of letting them feel the pain.
Onto the main subject, it is funny coming from an imperialist power like Australia and your fellow imperialist empires like the UK and US, that were built on exploitations of people and resources from its illegally invaded and occupied lands, through genocides and mass forced migrations of the natives to rob their lands, buildings of illegal military bases on contested islands, and often using them as test grounds for nuclear and chemical weapons and leaving the locals there with permanent health damage, building and expending military bases against the locals' wishes on their formal colonies, and so on and so on, of course all are benign and warmly welcomed by the whole world! And for centuries you behave like a big bully and no small defenseless nations could even make a whimper, but sorry mate, those days are gone and China is not the defenseless nation of 200 years ago when it was getting kicked around by a bunch of imperialist thugs, the West does not have a say in China's internal matters, at least not when the West is still committing war crimes and dropping bombs on innocent people all over the middle east. BTW, if any country has a claim with the disputed islands in the South CHINA sea then it is still not a matter of any of these Western countries, because they don't hold any claim there whatsoever. Don't come here lecture China on morality when you have no ground to stand on.
The ''historical" basis China has to unify Taiwan is all in the historical records, goes back at least 1000 years, and it is not because you are ignorant of it then that make it OK to think however way you like, the ruling party of Taiwan has been brainwashing its people for years to be hostile towards Mainland China, because the selfish party wants to be a willing puppet of the empires to contain China's rise, after all it is the speciality of the West to overthrow foreign governments and install a puppet ones so it can legitimately raking benefits, Taiwan is a part of China and no one can change that fact, and as I already said if you go to Mainland China now and ask if Chinese people would accept Taiwan's independence, vast majority will say no and what is more, the scarier part is majority of them want to unify asap using force, but this is not the intention of the Chinese government and has never been, because Chinese people have no intention to kill their fellow Chinese, and that most of the people in Taiwan consider themselves to be. The people in Taiwan are victims too and many of them welcome unifications, some themselves even calling for a forceful one, just read their comments under many videos if you could understand Chinese that is.
Good luck to you too!
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China: Proper lockdown and strict quarantine measures taken very early on, nationwide effort with EVERYONE taking part to stay at home and 40,000 doctors and planes and planes load of supplies sent to Wuhan from all over China, build 2 hospitals in 10 days, fought it like a war.
West: Spent over 2 month smearing, demonising and criticising China and in the mean time did nothing to stop virus from spreading, no checks no quarantines for passengers coming in from ports, no preparation of mass testing, no preparation of PPE equipments, not informing its citizens of the seriousness of the disease even they knew full well about it since early January.
Conclusion: The West: total out of control outbreaks with out of control infections and death numbers. China: largely contained outbreak which limited deaths and infections to a few cities in a single province. Yeah that is why the numbers are not comparable, totally two different situations we are looking at here.
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@thucduyen9592 Exactly, Vietnam and many other South East Asian countries all have had their fair share of imperialism and wars, no one in their right mind would want to pick a clear side with the West, especially not now, because in a way China's peaceful rise represents the rise of the whole Asia, we are standing up tall and proud as Asians and us Asians everywhere in the world should be respected more and feel more pride. Yes, the other thing is the West could invade and occupy a foreign country but they could never control the heart and mind of the people because it is clear they never attempt to understand and respect that country's culture and people. Yes Vietnam shares many similar culture and values with China, and as we have seen how hard you people fought the US, we understand and respect that fighting sprit, Vietnam, like China just wants to be an independent and sovereign nation and treated with respect.
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@burns281981 You are great at spinning facts, I guess that's what your lying media has been telling you all this years. China didn't attack that plane, at least you acknowledge that it was a spy plane spying on China very close to China's territorial waters and air space, the plane was warned to move away but it didn't, it deliberately got too close to the Chinese jet causing it to lose control, and the damages of the collision forced the US plane to land in a Chinese island. I bet your lying media has never told you, US sends spy planes and ships close or even into China's territorial sky and waters on a monthly basis, for the past decade. And THAT's how the US behaves. Why no one is talking about it in your media, oh I know, no one talks about it so it never happened, lol.
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April, 2019: New York City Quietly Conducted An EBOLA DRILL Shortly Before Congo Migrant Surge
August, 2019: Over Safety Concerns, Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Fort Detrick, Maryland
August, 2019: Reports of cluster of pneumonia like illness showing all symptoms as Covid-19 in Maryland near Fort Detrick.
October, 2019: clinical report of unknown pneumonia, CDC claimed electric smoking as possible cause.
Oct. 18: Event 201, high-level pandemic drill was held in New York city, New York. CIA director attended.
fact: CDC estimate 10,000 deaths in USA already occurred at the start of flu season Sept-Dec 2019
fact: a doctor in Washington State happen to be taking swabs for flu (INFLUENZA) for a study while monitoring flu deaths
fact: by the time COVID-19 was recognized surfacing in China; the doctor re-examined flu samples in Washington State discover COVID-19 already PRESENT earlier in 2019 from deaths MIS-ATTRIBUTED to INFLUENZA from those who DIED but NEVER been to CHINA ... this doctor in USA was TOLD (by local/state authorities) to STOP CHECKING past deaths !!! (SILENCED to cover up the facts ... just like in USA before!)
fact: CDC estimate 12,000 more deaths, totally over 22,000 deaths in USA already occurred by the time flu season Jan-Feb/Early March 2020
fact: ONLY USA has ALL EARLIEST COVID-19 strains BEFORE others had "only later strains" that can only come from earlier strains !!!
USA: COVID-19 Strains A, B, C, D, E ... (yup, oldest A to latest E) USA has them all ... no surprise; they can't bother to sort out INFLUENZA deaths from COVID-19 deaths because they didn't know it was already killing thousands of Americans back in 2019 (they don't do much testing; at least when not expecting it; to them all respiratory deaths look the same)
Others: COVID-19 Strains = some B, some, C, some D, some E, some a mix of B/C/D/E ... NONE have A (USA Exclusive)
(like China, Korea, Japan, SE Asia, South Asia, UK, Europe, etc)
RIGHT NOW, USA still cannot adequately test for COVID-19 in 2020 March, so they still cannot tell the difference between INFLUENZA DEATHS ... from COVID-19 deaths !!!
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@ABBZ120 ''Despite having a large consumer population and a fast-growing economy, India is increasingly known as a hazardous “graveyard for foreign companies.” In the World Bank’s Global Doing Business report, India, which is expected by some to become the “new factory of the world,” was ranked as one of the worst countries in the world to start a business.
“Ease of doing business … there are very few countries we can compete with, obviously from the bottom. Probably, this is the worst country to do business in. That is a very frank statement I want to make,” Pankaj Mohindroo, chairman of the mobile industry body Indian Cellular & Electronics Association, once criticized the business climate in India.
Over the decades, wooed by the seemingly booming market, plenty of multinational companies have tried to jump on the bandwagon of exploring investment options in India, but few have proceeded any further.
In recent years, the Indian government has doubled down on blackmailing foreign companies with trumped-up charges. Google, Amazon, Nokia, and Samsung have all suffered billions of outrageous fines, while others including Xiaomi, OPPO, Vivo, Intel, and Wistron have also hit snags in the Indian market.
According to data from the Indian government, from 2014 to 2021, nearly 2,800 foreign companies registered in India closed their operations, accounting for about one-sixth of the total number of multinational companies in the country.
Through means like imposing huge fines, freezing deposits, and confiscating assets, the Indian government has habitually snatched the business gains of foreign enterprises. “You can earn money here; you can spend money here, but you can never take what you have earned here back home,” some investors in the country have lamented.''
''How India turns into “graveyard for foreign companies”'' (Sri Lanka Guardian, 2023-07-25)
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@ronnie5329 ''we had the naive idea the CCP would give away power and freedom to their population as they got more money.'' No, the West was hoping that CCP led China would become a vassal state that it could use to their advantage but sadly that didn't happen, if only the West bothered to learn a bit more of China's culture and history, they would have done better to convert them, but being condescending and using bullying tactic didn't work out for them, it is too bad your capitalists have no loyalty and only care about profits, you should blame them instead of the Chinese, and yeah move out the industry now, what are you waiting for, words are cheap, lol.
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''China Uncensored'' is created by Falungong, an anti China religious cult funded by the CIA that pushes out anti China/Chinese lies and smears to demonize China. At the begining, it was just a religion based on meditation and exercise but its extreme teachings led to many cultish gatherings and deaths, so the Chinese government banned it, that was when it became full on anti China/Chinese government and the West took advantage of the situation and funded them to carry out its anti China agenda. If you are truly interested in China, you should keep yourself away from ''China Uncensored'', ''Epoch times'', ''NTD'' and other Falungong funded outlets. There are a number of China based Youtubers who show a true China in their videos, you might have discovered them by now since I am only replying to your comment almost a year later, but if not, check out ''Barrett'', ''Daniel Dumbrill'', ''the JaYoe Nation'' and ''Cyrus Janssen''.
I am a Chinese, I can tell you that most so called '' China expert'' in your Western media are either liars or genuinely clueless about China, what they have in common is to push out the anti China agenda for interests groups. You are right, China is not looking to take over the world, don't want to topple governments, they aren't looking to expand militarily or colonise any country, they are only interested in win win cooperation. China does not have the US style of democracy but its government enjoys the support of overwhelming majority of the Chinese population, the Chinese have never been so proud, because the Chinese government had made Chinese people's lives better, more confident, unless you fully understand the Chinese history, you will never fully understand how Chinese people feel today, there are of course many problems in China like in any other society, but most Chinese are happy because they believe their country is on the right path for better future.
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@worfoz You are however NOT factually correct, but rather deluded to think, this war will "destroy" or even weaken Russia for that matter, no, to the contrary, there is never going to be any worry for Russia to find customers for its energy, and with Russia being completely self sufficient on resources, it will never be weakened or destroyed, and plus, how do you destroy a country that has the most number of nukes on earth, both the West and Ukraine are deluded, instead it is the West and Ukraine who are paying the heaviest price for this self inflicted crisis which you obviously have no concern of, especially the human cost of it, yeah you bots just keep preaching the NATO narrative, you can only fool yourselves. Which countries have committed the most war crimes, it is certainly NOT Russia.
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@worfoz Lol, OK whatever you say, I get you have to write the NATO script, an American arms dealership and warmongers cartel that killed millions and still killing as we speak. By far I have seen far more war crimes committed by Ukraine than Russia, after all it fits with what Ukraine really is, a f-ed up Nazi state, what else do I expect. And again, the US/West is the biggest imperialistic empire, everyone knows this, especially themselves, because they have every intention to let its evil reign continue.
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McDonalds Farmer You are full of BS you know it, what make you think my government is the Chinese government, I live in the UK, so the government responsible for these massive screw up is the British government, and about China, it is laughable to suggest China ''allowed'' the virus to spread when clearly it was not the case. When China sealed of all the ports of the epicenter Wuhan very early to prevent spreads your incompetent UK government allowed travellers from affected countries( not only China) to come in without any checks and quarantines therefore spreads began. In fact the imported cases to the UK from China was less then 10 and was reduced to zero by the beginning of Feb. The mass spread started when people travelled to all over Europe from Italy when their patient zero had no travel connection with China at all, you know this so stop accusing the Chinese, your lying government had 3 months to prepare since the Chinese told the WHO on 3rd Jan a pandemic is taking place but ignored the seriousness of it and failed to get ready including getting the tests and PPE ready, now you have the cheek asking the Chinese to provide them for free and blaming them for this failure, so since when China is responsible for the internal affairs of the UK? Talking about paying back, what about the UK return all the looted treasures and compensate the Chinese for all losses over the Opium War as Britain was nothing but the world biggest drug dealer! Now shut the f up and enjoy more deaths caused by your failed government and get your share of herd immunity as you are treated as such!
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@impalabeeper Well that is not what the WHO team said just after they finished their investigation in China, so someone has changed their initial statement, someone has been lying, Why? Again at least China let the WHO team in to investigate, and there is no clear evidence to suggest Wuhan was the first epicentre of this pandemic, even WHO has never claimed that, it was merely a place where a large outbreak took place and discovered, and they still don't know for sure where the virus came from, they could only give several possibilities, they said it is very unlikely it came from a lab, including any lab in the world. I don't know what your state-run media told you but it was a known fact the WHO has concluded their investigation in China and claimed they were given free access to all places they asked for and now it is the turn to investigate elsewhere where some suspected cases were discovered much earlier than China. FYI, The Spanish flu was not originated from Spain. The desperate attempts to finger pointing China and the Wuhan lab only is nothing but playing politics. And finally, the US funded and worked with that Wuhan lab on several projects involving viruses, they should know exactly what they have been working on so why bother asking for access, lol.
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@impalabeeper Oh, sorry I didn't know you are a virologist yourself, clearly have long determined the origin of Covid-19, lol, according to your logic, since it took so long for China to agree to be investigated because China needed the time to hide things, so then it seems America needs even more time to hide, yeah consider the shut down of their lab containing every virus known to human, vaping illness, strange pneumonia deaths near the lab, large antibodies detection in its population, worst flu season for years and the deliberate under testing in early stages of its pandemic, they surely need more time to destroy evidence while asking people to look the other way, it is pretty clear to me where the virus came from, just look at the country with the highest cases, deaths, deaths per capita, lmao!
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Great segment on the topic Kim, whenever I hear someone repeating the ''Uyghur genocide'' talking point, I ask them, find me a single photo and/or video about the ''gen**ide'', they go quiet. Nope, no evidence whatsoever. China's approach and the deradicalization process might not have been perfect, but way better than outright bombings and killings of innocent Muslims worldwide like the US/West has done. Xinjiang is a prosperous place today, even compare to 10, 15 years ago. The US/West however has been economically sanctioning the Uyghurs using the excuse of this fake gen**ide, on the cotton and solar panel industries, two industries pose serious competition to US companies. The US/West ''loves'' the Uyghurs so much, they literally are killing their livelihoods.
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