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Comments by "Rational D" (@rationald6799) on "Was The Universe Created From Nothing?" video.
One needs to understand that the science presented on YouTube, Facebook etc. Is not established science. It is speculation. And presented in an entertainment format
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I would like to offer a little humble pie. The smartest dog will never understand algebra. Humans may never understand everything. I'm not saying that we shouldn't keep trying to. I'm saying that there might be a limit to our understanding.
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Science does not teach that there was nothing before the big bang. Science says that they can only go back to the singularity. Many hypothesis are presented regarding what caused the beginning of "our" universe. Infinite big bangs. Multiple universes. That something has always existed etc. We may eventually learn the cause of everything. Or it may be we go extinct before that happens. It a safe bet that as long as humanity exists. It will keep trying to figure it out.
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@storytimewithunclekumaran5004 being that I'm not a scientist. I can only answer such questions as a layman. The only one that I feel I can answer with my limited understanding is your first question. "Our universe" did not expand into anything that we might conceive of as being an infinite void. Space and time in our universe came about as a result of the expansion. I think the the concept is difficult for all of us to grasp. A weak analogy. Is that a hypothetical two dimensional being. Could not perceive our three dimensional world. We are limited in our understanding of our universe. Because we only perceive three dimensions. The questions such as Where did matter come from? Etc. Can be better explained by doing research into what scientists speculations are regarding these topics. Many things we don't have an answer for. And when we don't know. Science will answer with we don't know. Nothing wrong with saying. I/we don't know. Saying that is the first step towards knowledge.
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Same here 😃
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@DemocraticSolutions you believe that there was a creator who created the universe? Is that correct? If so. What are your thoughts on who created the creator? And what did the creator create the universe out of?
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Evolution explains how the chicken came about. And all other species for that matter.
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@notnecessary7730 if you believe that science says that the universe came out of nothing. Then I might understand why you think that. But it does not say that
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@notnecessary7730 it is the best explanation to date. On how"our universe" came to be. Of course. It isn't written in stone. Science is willing to admit if a theory has been proven wrong. Based on research. How would you say the universe came to be?
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@notnecessary7730 The universe expanded faster than the speed of light. Because it wasn't restricted by The speed of light. That's why we can see 45- 46 billion miles in either direction. Do some research on why it's that way. Greater minds than ours can explain it better than I can. They make these claim's based on observations. They don't make it up off the tops of their head's. Do you have a better explanation,/ theory on how the universe came to be. Because you don't understand the theory. Is not an argument against it. Saying Nuh uh. Doesn't cut it. Perhaps you feel you're smarter than all the scientist's. Who base their theories on evidence accumulated. Through years and year's of research? Lmao
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@notnecessary7730 because you don't understand something does not make it stupid. And if you can't offer a better explanation using objective methodology. Don't expect anyone to accept your premise that the theory is stupid just because you say so. Look up the Dunning- Kruger effect and Cognitive dissonance. It explains why someone when receiving new information. Rejects it
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AileDiablo look up the Dunning Kruger effect. And Cognitive Dissonance.
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AileDiablo read up on the Dunning- Kruger effect. And cognitive dissonance. Maybe you'll understand why you reject factual information. And why you claim to have knowledge of science and twist the truth. Did you check out the video I suggested? Take care my friend.
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I see what you mean now.
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@n.v.9000 I think you assume that @ Story Time With Uncle Kumaran doesn't think in the abstract. And you tell him that he shouldn't think about this subject anymore? He is asking questions. Which is a good thing. How about you try and answer his questions. Instead of making discouraging statements
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That is philosophy. An interesting notion that we are the universe experiencing itself. But still lays in the realm of philosophy.
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@jasonmiller9160 well don't geek out my good man. Just don't accept anything without evidence. The idea of we are the universe experience itself is an interesting idea. But it is not provable. Truth is what's provable. Truth does not require that we either like or dislike it. Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit. 100° c. Now that's provable and that's the truth.
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@dzillahawk believing anything to be fact without proof is idiotic to be sure. That works both ways. And who knows something that you look at as being idiotic now. Might change provided that there was evidence for that claim. It would just save everyone a lot of trouble. If instead of seeking the truth through belief. That they look at the facts. And decide if they accept those facts or not. It's what makes the scientific methodology. The best system to use to ascertain the truth. Pure and simple. Truth does not require that we either like it. Or dislike it. It is just the truth.
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Science has said that. The universe collapsing back in on itself. Then expanding again. Is a possibility. But that is not established fact. There are many possibilities. But we don't know. And we should not state anything as fact unless we know. Truth does not require that we like. Or dislike it.
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@amos5557 Ray Waters lacks an understanding of evolutionary biology. And outright lies about . And misrepresents certain things. misrepresents and misunderstands atheism. Others of his kind. Such as Kent Hovind. Matt Powell etc. Are deceiving, gullible people. They think their answers are so intelligent. And their viewpoint is so unique. When they are the same old used over and over again answers. Which are no answers at all. If you choose to listen to people such as this. People who tell you that the Bible is the word of God.. the bible. That has a talking snake in it. A burning bush that talks. A talking donkey. A virgin who gives birth. A dead guy who comes backs to life. Has unbelievable contradictions in it. Just a quick example. In Matthew 27:5 it is said that Judas hangs himself. In Acts 1:18 it is said that Judas cast himself down on stones. So one would think that if the Bible is the word of God. God would not allow errors in it. Errors that would make any thinking person question it's authenticity. Is it possible that it's because it's not the word of God. The same for any holy book. Of any religion. That possibly out of the 3000 god's there have been in human history. All are made up silly nonsense. And Jehovah is no exception. Made up nonsense. Let me end with this. Virgins don't have babies. The dead don't come back to life. Snakes don't talk.. Donkeys don't talk. Burning bushes don't talk. There is no such thing as magic. If you believe these things to be literally true. That is delusional thinking. That is the theist delusion.
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@skurbanvintr0 nonsense. Show evidence of God. Before you can make any claim about God.
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Perhaps it's easier for you to believe. But science does not rely on belief. It relies on facts. So far everything we have gained an understanding of. Is shown to come from natural causes. No supernatural agency involved. In the quest to understand how it all came to be. So far there is no indication that any supernatural being. Had any involvement. A couple of questions for you. If there is a creator. Who created the Creator?. And what did the creator make the universe from? If the line of reasoning is that the universe is so complex. That there had to have been a creator. But a Creator would be the most complex thing in existence. So who created the creator? In our quest for knowledge. If there should be a point where it is shown that a creator was the cause of everything. Then that'll be it. However up until this point. No indication at all of a creator. And ask yourself this. Why would the creator of the universe. Make it so difficult for people to know of him. And all powerful all knowing all present being. Should have no problem with that.
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@stefanandersen7726 you are correct. But quite alot that is presented is not what science says. For example. I've heard it said. That the theory is. There was nothing. Then there was the big bang. That is incorrect
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@notnecessary7730 a statement. Or argument from incredulity. Is not an argument
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AileDiablo your claim of a god is not based on an objective methodology. You believe. And want that to be true. Because you lack an understanding of science. You make statements that show your lack of understanding. Do you think you're smarter than all the scientists that come up with the theory of the big bang? Or evolution? Science does not want a theory to be true. They look at what the evidence shows. Religion has a bias that there must have been a god. Or god's. As the cause of of existence. Wanting something to be true does not make it true. And not understanding science does not make it wrong
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@amos5557 look up the Dunning- Kruger effect. And cognitive dissonance. Ray Waters. And his kind lack an understanding of how science works. And they come up ideas that they think as very clever. And they are not. Anything he has ever said. Shows his lack of understanding. And that he is out right lying. He ignores the overwhelming evidence for evolution. Or rejects it.
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AileDiablo your statements are false. And your conclusions are wrong. Newton only believed that there was a God because they had no other explanation for the universe at the time he was alive. Einstein did not believe in God. Islamic scientists. Are constrained by their culture. So that stating a lack of belief in God could cause them trouble. Or death. Any scientist who uses the scientific method. Does not come to the conclusion that there must be a god. The overwhelming evidence does not show any indication that a God or supernatural force created the universe. The overwhelmingly amount of scientist does not think a supernatural being caused creation. You reject information. Because it conflicts with your desire for a god. Again read up on cognitive dissonance. And the dunning- kruger effect.
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AileDiablo I'm am not the arrogant one. I state only what the evidence shows. Or doesn't show. If there were irrefutable evidence of a god. Then I would accept that. Yours is a position of arrogance. Claiming that you know that there is a God. And even that your particular concept of God is correct. And there is no evidence at all for God. Especially for the judeo/Christian/Islamic god. Are you familiar with the god paradox? If God is omnipotent. Can he make a boulder so heavy that he cannot lift it? If he's omnipotent. Then yes. He can do that. But if he can't lift the boulder. He's not omnipotent. This and many other such questions. Point out the absurdity of God existing
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What am I catching on to? I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying.
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@robertwilson2007 I want to be clear that I don't think that means we should ever give up in the search for knowledge. That may be fine for some to just give up in the search for knowledge. But not for others. And that doesn't mean that some should just fall back on. "Therefore God." Because that is no answer at all.
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