Comments by "Hugh Jorgan" (@HughJorgan1) on "Late Night with Seth Meyers"
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dn va, ...what Meyers and Colbert are doing stopped being jokes or satire over a year ago. Have you ever heard them "joke" about the Democrats, Obama, or Hillary?
Have you ever heard them reference Bill Clinton's impeachment for lying to a grand jury? Or how about Hillary's "I don't recall" testimony regarding her emails, Bengazi AND Bill's affairs? It would seem to me the jokes would write themselves....
Trump's doing great in all the areas that matter. For example, the economy, job growth, foreign policy, national security, immigration policy, etc.
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dn va, ...We'll need to disagree on a number of issues.
1. The 'thanks to Obama' line regarding the economy is both illogical.... and overused. Trump has managed to maintain momentum since the 2008 recession despite massive challenges with the global economy
2. His tax reforms will go down as a historic point in the US economy and the best legacy from his first term. For example, he made the US globally competitive with the Corporate tax rate. It's already brought thousands of jobs and $Billions in investment back to the US. The reforms were the # 1 reason Apple gave for investing over $400 billion in new US-based spending.
3. Trumps' foreign policies have been excellent thus far. Remember, he's less than 2 years into his first term. Foreign policy takes time.
4. In a short period, he's rebuilt many relationships Obama tarnished. For example, with key allies Israel, China, South Korea, and Japan.
5. It's highly illogical to say Trump's been 'played' by North Korea and Russia. Unless you can offer anything to rationalize/substantiate the statement, you're simply repeating a line from propaganda shows.
6. Obama's Iran deal reduced sanctions on a terrorist regime. It allowed them to get billions in extra cash. And it did little to assure key US allies in Europe and the Middle East. It needs to be reworked. Which is why Trump has massive support from key allies on the decision.
7. MANY Presidents have promised to move the US embassy to Jurusalem. Trump is the only one with the guts to do it.
There are many ongoing issues Trump is still working on. For example, the wall, healthcare, domestic energy programs, immigration policy, etc. But he's working on them. And sorry, but it's illogical to point to gas prices as any indicator of political success.
Be patient. Thanks to Trump things look like they're going to get even better for the US in the future.
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Chunkboi, you make many good points. However, we'll need to disagree on many topics. For every source/indicator you used to support your opinion (or counter my opinion) I could find a source/indicator to support my opinion and counter your argument.
I'd be remiss to not address one of your key points, however. Trump's made many important decisions to reverse Obama mistakes (a big part of why he was elected)...but the following 3 are among my favorites:
1. Getting the US out of the ridiculous, unenforceable, photo-op, billion dollar boondoggle called the Paris Climate treaty. A deal that benefits the world's worst polluters at the expense of responsible countries.
2. Overturning Obama's perplexing cancellation of the Keystone Pipeline.
3. Giving more power to individual States to control their own environmental policies by reducing Federal regulatory hindrances.
And remember...Citizens in the "energy" States have the ability to dictate whether they want coal mines, pipelines, fracking, etc. If the majority don't, they can simply vote for a different State government (or work to change State policy).
I can't verify the following statement... but I believe most US states exceed emission targets and have significant environmental controls that surpass other countries? California comes to mind. And they have a larger population (and GDP) than Canada.
Lastly, we'll REALLY need to disagree on what Seth Meyers' doing with his incessant anti-Trump propaganda.
Propaganda is defined as "Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."
1. Meyers misleads with almost every Trump or Republican "joke". Mostly with lies-by-omission from cherry picking quotes and articles. And his video subject lines are often flat-out lies intended to misinform/mislead. Finally, he regularly changes the context of 'news' to push his personal agenda. In other words, what he's doing fits the definition of propaganda.
2. Have you EVER heard Meyers joke about ANYTHING anti-Democrat or anti-Obama/Hillary? For example, why no mention of Bill Clinton in relation to the Stormy topic?! (the jokes write themselves). Meyers personal bias (and that of his employer) means he'd never speak negatively about the Clintons or the Democrat party.
3. Have you ever heard Meyers joke about ANYTHING positive Trump has done? As I noted above, the list is long. For example, his propaganda on the tax reforms was egregiously one-sided, negative and deliberately misleading. (yes, I know the personal tax breaks have a sunset clause. But can you imagine any future government raising personal taxes?! Trump's move was brilliant. )
4. Meyers would rather joke incessantly about any topic that misleads and/or pushes his personal bias. For example, the dead-in-the-water "investigation" on Russia we've been hearing about for over a year. Or giving the porn star extra coverage at any opportunity (see # 2).
5. Meyers propaganda also uses repeated and cruel attacks on Trump's wife and family. It's ok to insult Trump... since he regularly insults others. But attacks on Melania, Ivanka and others makes Meyers look like a delusional idiot. It's not "comedy" to incessantly bring the President's family into his propaganda.
Bottom line, we'll need to disagree on the most important principle. I think the US is doing excellent under Trump. It's significantly improved over Obama and the Democrats (I shudder to think where we'd be under Hillary). And Trumps less than 2 years into a likely 8 year run.
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Please provide this "evidence" you refer to. And remember, evidence needs to be fact-based. It can't be ad-hominem attacks, subjective opinions, conspiracy theories, involve Trump's wife/family, or any un-substantiated garbage from propaganda shows.
I look forward to your fact-based evidence that focuses on the things that matter. For example, the economy, jobs, foreign policy, corporate investment, energy security, housing-starts, national security, immigration, tax reform (etc, etc).
And remember: Trump's massive accomplishments in less than 2 years have almost nothing to do with Obama. The statistics and trends show this fact.
All that said, I look forward to hearing your "evidence" that Trump is a failure.
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