Comments by "Hugh Jorgan" (@HughJorgan1) on "The Trump Team's Lies About Immigrants and Family Separation: A Closer Look" video.

  1. Regarding Seth being 'pissed off'. Let's put his fake anger in perspective. He made multiple lies and/or lies-by-omission in this propaganda vid. As he does in every Trump clip. For example, both the NY Times and Washington Post confirmed Trumps comment on removing regulations wasn't a "lie". It was hyperbole. Which Trump often uses to draw attention to the core issue/accomplishment. (it's a brilliant strategy when you think about it). Both newspapers reported how well Trump is doing with respect to removal of government regulations, which was a key platform in his campaign. For example, from the Washington Post, here's an apples to apples comparison on an administration’s "first sweep" through the regulations: 1. Trump: 469 (regulations removed/withdrawn) 2. Bush: 181 3. Obama: 156
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  2. V Heller, thank for the clarity. Bottom line, the actions will prove to be an excellent deterrent to those wanting to enter illegally.
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  3. I disagree. Meyers once again embarrassed himself with outright lies and anti-Trump propaganda. For example, he lied about Trump's comment on regulations. Here's an apples to apples comparison on an administration’s "first sweep" through the regulations (source Washington Post): 1. Trump: 469 (regulations removed/withdrawn) 2. Bush: 181 3. Obama: 156 Facts are important. Meyer's blatant lies and incessant propaganda are misleading. Like Colbert, he's hurting the country with every biased rant cleverly disguised as 'satire'.
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  4. Jo Mo...many people think less Federal regulations is a better approach. It gives more power to individual States to manage their own affairs. Particularly on key issues such as environmental regulations. In addition, less Federal regulation saves money and removes bureaucracy.
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  5. Yep, many don't remember Obama and his communications team said: "you can keep your current plan if you don't want Obama care". It was an outright lie.... repeated at least 37 times. It was Politifact's 2013 "Lie of the Year". You'd never hear a propaganda show like Myers or Colbert reference such facts.
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  6. Robert Watson. It's always interesting to hear from our friends in Germany. Regarding your feeling of 'safeness', what's the general consensus on Germany's (Merkel's) immigration policies? Specifically, the refugee policies and vetting processes? It'd be great to hear a first-hand opinion.
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  7. Please tell me you're a smart Australian getting your information and facts from sources other than a propaganda show like this one? Seth Meyer's lies and misleads in every show. He provides a completely one-sided perspective (anti-Trump and pro-Democrat). For example, he blatantly lied in this segment. Again, I truly hope you're seeking facts and perspective.
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  8. Red Ice...All your emotional and political opinions aside for a moment... Do you support illegal immigration?
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  9. I prefer to not to have my intelligence insulted with crafted speeches. Trump very rarely refers to written word. Its one of the reasons he got elected. I'd rather hear honesty and mistakes than mind-numbing political jargon/cliches.
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  10. Facts and perspective are important. Both Obama and Hillary supported an entire border barrier with Mexico. (fence/wall, what's the difference). And it's now proven fact media, and shows like Meyers and Colbert, used a picture of kids in detention taken during Obama's Presidency to support their latest round of propaganda.
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  11. Let's address just one of Meyer's lies in this propaganda clip. Trump did not 'lie' about his record on cutting regulations. He used hyperbole. As he does. Strategically intended to draw attention to the core issue. (it's quite a smart approach when you think about it). For example, both the NY Times and Washington Post confirmed it wasn't a lie. Both pointed out how well Trump is doing with respect to removal of regulations. From the Post, apples to apples comparison on an administration’s "first sweep" through the regulations: 1. Trump: 469 (regulations removed/withdrawn) 2. Bush: 181 3. Obama: 156
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  12. Why? Meyer's blatantly lied about Trump's comment on regulations. And he lied-by-omission in his reporting of the border issue. Trump has altered procedural enforcement of current laws to ensure families trying to enter illegally will all be kept together. For their rapid deportation/return to Mexico. If that's why you "appreciate" the vid, we're on the same page. ;)
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  13. Sean L...you seem to disagree with something I said. Please elaborate.
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  14. Trump has altered the procedure to address illegal immigrants (and their kids) at the border. They will now be kept together for rapid deportation. All is good.
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  15. Jihook Harling...You make good points. I agree there will always be those wanting to leave their own country for another. Maybe for personal reasons or for "basic needs". Some will do it legally and some will have no choice but to try to do it Illegally. The US can't solve Mexico's problems and the "desperation" of some of its citizens. Just like South Korea can't solve North Korea's problems. The US can't be expected to provide Mexico's "3 basic needs" you refer to. Legal immigrants who get in line and follow all process are welcome. Refugees with valid asylum requirements who pass vetting for national security risk are always welcome. Everyone agrees with being humane with those who try to enter illegally. For example, many of the pictures of kids in cages we've seen this week were taken in 2014 under Obama. Very inhumane. (btw, it was a massive lie for media and comedy shows to imply the pictures were all Trump's fault and part of the recent issue. More people should be angry about that) Bottom line, every country needs to control its borders. Every country needs to control , and carefully monitor, who enters. It's a issue of National Security. And an issue of Domestic Peace. The rights of the majority for safety ALWAYS outweighs the rights of the individual. That's why Obama and Hillary both wanted (and voted for) a COMPLETE border barrier with Mexico to control illegal immigrants. (This is another fact rarely mentioned among the anti-Trump propaganda)
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  16. V Heller...good points all around. I agree environmental issues have no borders. It therefore becomes a discussion on what's the best approach? Federal/big brother vs more State/local-based regulations. As I said, many think less Federal regulation is a very good thing. I can't verify off hand, but I think that includes many Democrat States.
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  17. JC//DC....Myers and Colbert report on serious news stories. I agree they're expected to be funny when providing their opinion. But when they incessantly mislead, misinform and outright lie on their source material/opinions and provide a completely one-sided perspective, they cross the line from satire to propaganda. I put Maher in a different category of biased Liberal comedians. He regularly has guests on his show to provide a different perspective. And he regularly criticizes and jokes about his beloved Democrats. Something you'd never hear from Colbert and Meyers. In addition to their lies/lies-by-omission, Meyers and Colbert cherry-pick tiny snippets of news and footage. And regularly use quotes out of context. They've used fake pictures. Colbert even edited a Tweet on a very serious national issue to completely change the context to fit his propaganda. That's not "performing". It's a complete lack of personal integrity. A good example of such media/comedy show bias was the recent use of pictures of children in cages. The pictures were taken in 2014 under Obama. The clear goal of this lie was to support their propaganda and mislead on the recent border issue. This blatant lie should make people angry. I agree people don't need to watch their shows. But I also think it's important to bring facts and perspective to their propaganda vid's comment sections. Even though it's often hostile territory for logic! If I had a nickel for every time I've been called a "trumptard" or "russian bot" for simply stating facts. (or for every time someone used the 'orange' reference..;) I'm realistic though. I understand the vast majority of people getting their information from propaganda shows are unable/unwilling to have adult conversations or discuss serious issues. Most are incapable of even reading this far. They see a long comment and just reply with frustration/insults on how long the comment is. And most are only able to attack those they disagree with using insults or ad-hominem (the bottom 2 of the 7 levels of disagreement). Worse, this approach is often guaranteed to get lots of 'likes'...from others just like them. They feel empowered....and the cycle continues. I'll leave you with a thought. I firmly believe Meyers and Colbert are helping Trump and the Republicans. People have caught on to their game. They're tired of the lies and same basic jokes for over a year. They're tired of them creating issues where none exists. They're tired of cruel misplaced attacks on Melania or Ivanka, (etc). They're tired of being misled by propaganda cleverly disguised as 'satire'.
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  18. ThePietjandorie...Regarding regulations Trump has cut, I referenced some numbers above in my first comment of this section. Source the Washington Post. Trump definetely used hyperbole with respect to cutting regulations. But it wasn't a lie. Trump's use of hyperbole is actually a pretty smart strategy when you think about it. It forces people to investigate the issue/accomplishment he's referring to. He kind of trolls the trolls. For example, Myers claim Trump lied was a lie. And he said in this vid, and I quote, "In all cases...". (referring to past President's records) I know I'm cherry-picking a tiny snippet of Meyers rant to support my point/bias. But that's exactly what he does EVERY anti-Trump propaganda vid...;)
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