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Comments by "Kevin Hicks" (@Hickalum) on "Sweden, the jury returns" video.
This doctor’s herd immunity requirement of 70% to 80% assumes that everybody could catch it. But that is clearly not what happens in reality. If it we’re then when one person in a care home caught it everybody in the home would catch it. But that doesn’t happen, neither did that happen on the Diamond Princes. One might be forgiven for thinking someone is trying to terrify us. Here’s a hint for you - antibodies are not the only way the body fights infections.
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sperrotta91 ; You have been fooled (again)... Sweden’s strategy was nothing to do with herd immunity but rather to instil a set if behaviours that could be sustained until a vaccine became available. If you remember, at that time, the consensus was that people would nor obey straight lockdown rules...
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DJN 1; Because his point is based on the questionable assumption that everybody... Seriously Everybody!!! could catch it. Have you ever lived in a multiple occupancy house? Or worked in an office? Then you must know that when an illness comes in some people come come down with it... But.... you know what I’m gonna say... Not Everybody ... !!! Typically half the population are inherently immune. This is no different. We already have a high level of community immunity.
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Sweden’s approach was nothing to do with herd immunity. They thought protective measures would have to in place until a vaccine becomes available so their primary concern was to have a strategy that was sustainable. If you remember, at that time there was an assumption that people would not follow the lockdown rules, or at least not for very long.
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Spelling is hard... Prince. Princes. Princess. Princesses. OK , got it..
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Jarl S ; Correct. 70% - 80% of those who CAN catch it. That number; those who can catch it, is entirely unknown. For the interested student... In those with innate immunity, T cells use CD4+ helper T cells encoded for known pathogenic proteins, which trigger CD8 killer T cells into action. But T cells attack the proteins, not the antigens, so don’t generate antibodies so you could have some T cell immunity but test negative for antibodies. Our bodies know more about coronavirus than we thought. People’s previous exposure to colds can affect their ability to easily shrug off the Covid. There may be millions who have been exposed to the disease, but (possibly because of T cell protein responses) never develop symptoms at all, nor antibodies. What is indisputable now is that the number of infections was coming down BEFORE we went into lockdown.
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Me too; but I don’t want them to live ever diminishing lives in perpetuity...
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Joshua Garner ; Spot on... The whole planet should have gone into blanket lockdown last October- then nobody would have died with it...
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