Comments by "deezel_fairy" (@deezelfairy) on "SWNS" channel.

@SgtSlapmaster When it comes to voltages like 33KV an insulated grip isn't going to help, nor are things like rubber boots. At these sort of voltage levels a lot of things you might consider an insulator become conductive enough to cause horrific injuries or death. Linemen have special fibreglass poles that are non conductive but they don't have water flowing through them 😉 and are extremely expensive. They are also tested regularly. The bottom line is, making a powerline safe window cleaning water pole is an incredibly impractical proposition. It's not rocket science, you stay the f&&k away from powerlines - at least 10 meters. If you need to work closer you need someone who is qualified to carry out a proper risk assessment.
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You can hear that the shooting is outside the auditorium, You're not in immediate danger at that point so sometimes better off staying put, at least initially. Blindly running through a random exit could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
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Your right on most counts but the reason steel is conductive is because it's a metal, not because it contains carbon. Carbon is a pretty good conductor but still poor compared to nearly all metals.
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@Strider9655 The point is a faraday suit isn't going to give you the protection you want - it's useless. Stop sidestepping the point.
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@dh2032 I've just seen the pictures as well - without seeing the actual masts I can't 100% confirm but they will be either 11KV or 33KV and they do appear to be very close to the conservatory. Regardless, it doesn't change my opinion. It's obvious to anyone but a fool that they are powerlines. It's a tragic accident and I hope this guy does well but it's really no one's fault but his own.
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@applanateearth586 What are you waffling about? If you can't spot a high voltage powerline you have no business doing the bloody job! And a 33KV power line is pretty obvious that it's not a telephone cable.
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@stevebeever2442 Where did you get that postcode information from. The accident happened in Westbury, Wiltshire. KT is a Surrey postcode
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@johnlennox-pe2nq Or just don't get close to power lines... And by the way, at 33KV you'd probably still get a lethal shock with a wooden fishing pole - just the moisture that the wood naturally absorbs from the air can make it conductive enough at these voltage levels.
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@johnlennox-pe2nq Unfortunately, trying to design a water fed cleaning pole that would completely protect you from 33KV+ is not impossible, but would be incredibly cost prohibitive. Something like that would also need regular testing.
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There's no 1KV overhead lines in the UK. They'll either be 240V close to a house and after that it usually 11KV+ You can get a 33KV shock and survive (albeit with horrific injuries) it purely depends on the path the current flows through your body.
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Those Faraday suits don't quite work the way you think - they're not meant to protect you from a direct line to ground fault and will give you no protection in a scenario such as this. The point of the faraday suits is power lines ionise the air (through corona discharge) around them for a considerable distance which creates a potential difference - the further a part of your body is from that line the greater the voltage difference. Now, that voltage difference flowing through your body isn't going to harm you, but it's very uncomfortable. That's what the faraday suit protects you from. If you actually got a line to ground short through a faraday suit? That suit would probably just vapourise in an instant. Those faraday suits are also insanely expensive and have to be tested with special equipment before every use - not exactly practical for a window cleaner.
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 @LyingDevilsMSM How are you supposed to electrically insulate a pole that has dirty water down it? Christ on a bike, actually stop and think about it.
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@almoravidbeh6105 My friend you really don't understand voltages like 33KV. The pole doesn't even have to be sopping wet, even just slightly damp. In fact, even just a small amount of dust/dirt on the pole will create a conductive paths at these voltage levels. Sure, lineman working for the national grid have fibre glass poles with tools ect on the end for working on live powerlines but these are extremely expensive, the maintenance off them has to be meticulous and they have to be regularly tested with some very expensive equipment and they're only 'safe' if the person using them is well educated in working with high voltage. It's a totally impractical proposition to create a water pole that'll protect you from HV and a special grip isn't going to do it. There's a lot of context to this story we've not got and I'm struggling to work out how he got anywhere near this 33KV line. This type of power line might not be obvious it's 33KV but they are obvious enough to scream "I shouldn't be anywhere near this"
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@LyingDevilsMSM What field? window cleaning or high voltage
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@LyingDevilsMSM That didn't answer my question 😂
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@TheGraemeEvans People just don't understand transmission level voltages - pretty much everything you thought about things that are 'insulating' just doesn't apply. It's a whole different issue.
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@anton__84 The reason they use poles is for health and safety reasons - local council health and safety inspectors do not like tradesmen using ladders and will pull them off the job if they catch them. Unless you'd prefer your window cleaner to erect scaffolding every time you want your windows cleaning?
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