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@dukeofwestphalia No he absolutely didn’t. Lothar has almost nothing to do with Germany or German identity. German identity only started developing after the Karolingian kings lost power in East Frankia. This statted happening around the very early 11th century, so well after Lothar lived.
As a side note, the region of Franken probably got its name the same way France did, through conquest. The Frankish Empire only integrated the region between in the 6th century, and it wasn’t where their power center was nor where the Franks lived.
The Franks lived in what is now Flanders, Brabant and parts of Northern France (the original Merovingian region) and in what is now Limburg (in Belgium and the Netherlands) and in NRW primarily centered around cologne. Dutch itself is directly descended from various old Frankish dialects. And yet neither Charlemagne nor Lothar were Dutch, or German or French, in any sense.
He was Germanic yes, and Frankish, and as all Karolingian kings he would his heritage would have been closely tied to the Region around Maastrich-Liege-Aachen, but calling him a German or Dutch king is anachronistic. Representing him as emperor of Middle Francia (which was dissolved and isn’t the direct predecessor to Germany anyway) is the only correct way
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