Comments by "" (@sebe2255) on "French Monarchs Family Tree | Clovis to Napoleon III" video.

  1.  @Oosh21 Why is he a poor student of history because he wants to keep the name he has had for his entire life
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  2. And the modern Frankish Lodewijk
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  3. It is because the Germanic Franks conquered Gaul. But they mostly don’t have the same roots beyond both being indo-european anyway The French are Gallo-Roman and not really Frankish
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  4.  @julesvandermolen4919  Yes I know, and Dutch is modern Frankish
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  5.  @Oosh21  Well one Charles got the monarchy back. And I am guessing the current Charles isn’t superstitious enough to let it impact him
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  6.  @greywolf7577  Bit over generalization and over-simplification there
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  7.  @tibsky1396  Most people aren’t nobles so yeah, that is what I said the French people (and culture) isn’t really Frankish
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  8.  @greywolf7577 But claims don’t mean anything on their own, so they are pretending
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  9. Quite fitting for an institution of privileged babies to lose out because they were acting like privileged babies
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  10.  @ZwaartEntertainment  They call themselves Franks, but they aren’t actually Franks. They, like the French, just inherited the name as a result of Frankish conquest of the region. Also Old Frankish/Low Franconian is not just a term for regional languages that happen to not belong to any of the other ones. That would imply Dutch isn’t actually Frankish but that they just slapped the name old Frankish on it because it isn’t Saxo or something and that Dutch actually has nothing to do with Frankish. But that is ridiculous. The evidence for the southern Low Countries being the heartland of the Franks who settled in Rome (Salian Franks) is overwhelming. Dutch is descended from Old Frankish, and the main existing Frankish language today. Unlike East Frankish (the language of the Franks in Franconia) where the linguistic connection to old Frankish is unclear. They actually just have the name East Frankish for their language because it is unclear what orher group they would otherwise belong to. But there is no indication that when the Franks conquered the region in the 5-7th centuries that they saw these people as kin. Germans (and German regional languages) from Hesse, NRW and the Rheinland are all more Frankish than the Franken region is. The region around Cologne was the heartland of the Franks that remained east of the Rhine (Ripurian Franks). Their Frankish regional languages just got absorbed into standard German and are dying out Lastly, in traditional Dutch history the modern Dutch people are directly described as Franks, Saxons and Frisians. So it isn’t like the Dutch don’t see themselves as the descendants of the Franks or don’t call themselves as such. Especially in the regions below the Rhinez even though what is now Holland was also colonized by Franks, who either killed, drove out or assimilated the Frisians. The Saxons just live in the East
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  11. No it is not, it is an English video. Don’t whinge about it Francis
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  12.  @aureltoniniimperatorecomun4029  No they don’t. The origins of the Robertians themselves are uncertain to begin with. So proving any connection to them is basically impossible. And there are certainly no reliable records proving any descent from a Merovingian king.
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  13.  @aureltoniniimperatorecomun4029  No it isn’t, it is speculation at best. Weird propaganda fantasy at worst
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  14. They enforced male only succession specifically to avoid having an English king inhereting France though.
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  15.  @thibautnarme6402 Except those kings did change their name from Franks to France. The French identity started to come into existence in the north of West Francia. On top of that the French state is directly descended from West Francia, and not any Merovingian kingdom (they had many)
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  16. He shouldn’t be named clovis at all, that wasn’t his name. His actual name was probably Hlodowig
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  17.  @ruyfernandez They don’t, no one has that
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  18.  @aureltoniniimperatorecomun4029  Even the origins of the Robertians are unsure. You say it yourself “probably” Eariest they can prove is late 9th century. Anything else is speculation and unable to be proven
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  19. Dutch, Luxemburgish and various German dialects along the lower Rhine. Dutch is the most relevant language descended from the Franks though, and the Low Countries are the only region where the Franks formed a majority and the dominant force in the creation of modern identities and peoples. But Charlemagne probably spoke the ancestor to modern day Limburgish, which also extends into Germany
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  20.  @kaloarepo288 They aren’t really words though, they are names.
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  21.  @kaloarepo288  Eh names aren’t really the same as words that are used in a language. Or at least they don’t really tell you much about the development of a language
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  22. Clovis being labeled as the first king of France is pure French nationalist anachronism, with a dash of Catholic propaganda thrown in. The point when French identity as such starts is blurry, but it certainly wasn’t as early as Clovis and it was definitely post Charlemagne
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  23.  @roidrannoc1691 hey are considered to be the first French kings only because of Catholic-French nation building. They were not French in any way Only France agrees with that, and most of the world doesn’t care at all
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  24.  @roidrannoc1691 West Francia was not a Frankish state. They just clung to the Karling dynasty the longest and didn’t transition to an Empire like East Frankia did. They kept the name but they weren’t meaningfully Frankish. Except for the country of Flanders they had no regions where Franks were a majority. All the Franks lived in Lotharingia at first and then later in East Frankia and the HRE
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  25.  @axolotl-guy9801 The Franks never romanized fully for the most part. They still exist today and don’t speak a Latin language
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  26. Almost like this channel and the charts cater to English speaking people!
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  27.  @hugolouessard3914  Yeah probably because calling people a name that isn’t theirs would be inconvenient. But thankfully no one is expected to shout at Phillip of France anymore. Besides these names were also given to these people back when there was far less interaction between people from different countries. But being whiny about it now makes no difference either
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  28.  @ThanhNguyen-vf5rl  There weren’t many Franks who settled in Gaul, and basically none settled below the Loire so everyone to the south of there definitely wasn’t really mixed. But yeah even in the North (with minor exceptions close to the Moselle and the Lowlands) the Franks were never a majority anywhere
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  29. Are you drunk? None of that makes any sense.
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