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@adamstewart9052 this abdul has a set of standard responses to everything: 1. "That's not his argument" 2. "you don't understand the argument" 3. "the Trinity is three gods" 4. "a footnote is a hadith" 🤣🤣🤣
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Abdul fidel Castro Solo-man believes bismillah al-rahman al-rahim is three gods and his profit muhummud believed in 3 allahs, lat, manat and uzza
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1. According to abdul jake, "descent does not mean descent", "foot does not mean foot" and "allah does not mean allah" 2. Abdul jake claims he counts allah and allah's attributes by identity. This means he believes there are multiple qurans (speech of allah which is allah's attribute) 3. Abdul jake is a salafi but reads the qurans metaphorically not literally! 4. Abdul jake conveniently uses terms like "bila kayf" when he fails to answer questions on toeheed but starts complaining when Christians say the Trinity is a mystery.
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@quintessence3991 The books of the OT were confirmed by Jesus. We have the same manuscripts even before the time of Jesus.
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@nunya54 the chain of narrators of the qurans appeared 200 years after muhummud. How is that authentic evidence?
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@colinblackie9654 abdul jake uses Christian philosophers to explain the inconsistencies in islam. He claims to be a salafi but reads the qurans figuratively, not literally. He claims he counts allah and allah's attributes by identity but still believes there is only 1 quran (the qurans are an attribute of allah)
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@JoanneArc-or9sr abdul Alonzo Harris is trying to change the topic to Christianity
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@inquisitivemind007 Fidel Castro Solo-man got scared of Chris that Chris was using his own book to school abduls like sneako at Hyde park. He was so upset that he had to go on the deen show to try and debunk Chris but ended up agreeing with Chris on almost everything 🤣
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@inquisitivemind007 According to muslim scholars like hythem sidky and apologists like shabir ali there are multiple qurans. Even yasir qadi admitted that there are holes in the narrative in the preservation of the qurans
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@Sam-Bob-Glogic abdul Alonzo Harris is trying to change the topic to the Trinity because he knows Chris schooled his shake using the shake's own book. His shake was seen crying on the deen show 😂
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@AlonzoHarris235 The topic was the qurans not the Bible. This proves Christianity lives rent free in your head 😂
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@zm4261 The calculations of the rabbi are not accurate. This is why other rabbis disagree. It is not a consensus opinion. Also, Christians don't follow rabbis. So your taqi-yya failed 😂
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@AlonzoHarris235 thank you for confirming that there are holes in the narrative. You can't decide which chain of narrators is authentic 😂
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@Slaw6602 Yeah just like his prophet 😂
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@AlonzoHarris235 Is allah al maliki or al Malik? Abdul logic 😂
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@quintessence3991 The Bible is true because it is from the first century. Your qurans were written in the 9th century in a different place, different language and different culture.
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@Odo-so8pj This abdul doesn't have knowledge on the subject. He has been stalking Christians for over 5 years with his silly theories on the Trinity. He was going around telling everyone a footnote is a hadith and he also believes in three qurans
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@aaronmusa234 When talking to an abdul: Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Is hafs quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is warsh quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is doori quran a quran? A. Yes Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Are all qurans around the world same? A. Yes Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants? A. Yes Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter? A. Yes Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"? A. They are different accents Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite? A. 7 Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy? A. 6 Q. How many ahrufs today? A. 7 Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite? A. None Q. How many qiraats today? A. 10, 15, 20, 50 Q. Is Bible preserved? A. No Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible? A. Yes Q. Did muhamad marry a child? A. No Q. How old was aisha? A. 6
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@paolobagatella8556 He never answers questions on islam. He always tries to switch the conversation to the Trinity. His whole life revolves around the Trinity
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@AlonzoHarris235 1. The concept of toeheed is not found in the qurans. 2. The word ahad means "one of" not "one". Every other verse in the qurans translates it as "one of". 3. Different sects of islam have different models of toeheed. These were invented in the 13th century. 4. There are 37 qurans in existence. 5. Abduls call their god: allah, al rahman and al rahim. This means you have three allahs 🤣
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Scholar Marijn van putten believes the qurans are based on fairy tales: Western scholars unanimously agree that Dhul Qarnayn is the legendary Alexander of Christian lore. Not the other way around. Most Muslim scholars denied that he is Dhul Qarnayn due to conclusion that he is a polytheist of the traditional Greek mythology. Today many muslims deny Dhu l-Qarnayn is Alexander, but in the medieval tradition the identification is not at all uncommon. Many tafsirs and early traditions transmit this in quite a lot of detail. Detailing "He was a Roman", "His name was Alexander", "He buitl Alexandria in Egypt". These opinions can be found in Tabari, Qurtubi, Ibn Kathir (who strongly denies this opinion), al-Baghawi, Ibn al-Jawzi.
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Scholar Marijn van putten believes there is a grammatical error in sura 5.69 or the possibility of a scribal error: The reason why is actually easy to show here, This verse has near doublet in Q2:62 and Q22:17, where the wording is basically identical but the case inflection is as expected: ʾinna llaḏīna ʾāmanū wa-llaḏīna hādū wa-n-naṣārā **wa-ṣ-ṣābiʾīna** man ʾāmana bi-llāhi wa-l-yawmi l-ʾāḫiri ... (Q2:62) ʾinna llaḏīna ʾāmanū wa-llaḏīna hādū **wa-ṣ-ṣābiʾūna** wa-n-naṣārā man ʾāmana bi-llāhi wa-l-yawmi l-ʾāḫiri ... (Q5:69) ʾinna llaḏīna ʾamanū wa-llaḏīna hādū **wa-ṣ-ṣabīʾīna** wa-n-naṣārā wa-l-maǧūsa ... (Q22:17) The particle ʾinna should trigger the accusative, but for some reason it doesn't in Q5:69, while in the other two verses it does. Since these are doublets, I don't think you can make a plausible case that a different meaning is intended, it's clearly the same wording. This verse is also well-known from a hadith attributed to ʿĀʾišah which calls this a scribal error in the Quran.
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@humanafied7303 Exactly. This means there is more than one allah according to your qurans
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1. According to abdul jake, "descent does not mean descent", "foot does not mean foot" and "allah does not mean allah" 2. Abdul jake claims he counts allah and allah's attributes by identity. This means he believes there are multiple qurans (speech of allah which is allah's attribute) 3. Abdul jake is a salafi but reads the qurans metaphorically not literally! 4. Abdul jake conveniently uses terms like "bila kayf" when he fails to answer questions on toeheed but starts complaining when Christians say the Trinity is a mystery.
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@AlonzoHarris235 The authors of your 37 qurans are anonymous too 🤣
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@YosafatNugraha When talking to an abdul: 1. What is qira'ats? A. Dialect 2. What is ahrufs? A. Dialect 3. How many qira'ats? A. 10, 15, 50 4. How many ahrufs? A. 7 5. One quran says "I", another says "you" A. They are different dialects
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@suleman5965 qira'ats are the modes of recitation? New level of taqi-yya 😂 So qurans come from the root word "to be recited"? A recitation means something to be recited 😂
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When talking to an abdul: Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Is hafs quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is warsh quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is doori quran a quran? A. Yes Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Are all qurans around the world same? A. Yes Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants? A. Yes Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter? A. Yes Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"? A. They are different accents Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite? A. 7 Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy? A. 6 Q. How many ahrufs today? A. 7 Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite? A. None Q. How many qiraats today? A. 10, 15, 20, 50 Q. Is Bible preserved? A. No Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible? A. Yes Q. Did muhamad marry a child? A. No Q. How old was aisha? A. 6
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@humanafied7303 This is really hilarious. How can "allah wonders" and "muhummud wonders" mean the same thing? Do you think we are abduls like you to fall for this level of deception?
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@AlonzoHarris235 we all know you are upset because Chris schooled your shake fidel Castro Solo-man using the shake's own book 😂
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@nyctom08 abdul Alonzo Harris is upset because Chris schooled his shake using the shake's own book. This is why he's spamming everywhere with irrelevant posts 😂
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@AlonzoHarris235 your allah is an abdul of muhummud. He plag-iarized the titles of Jesus in the Bible 😂
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@blackmamba6253 the abdul is trying desperately to change the topic to the Trinity. Please don't fall for his taqi-yya. He is upset because Chris schooled his shake. Notice he has nothing to say about the video
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@blackmamba6253 this abdul Alonzo Harris is a salafi and he takes a literal meaning of his scripture but when it suits him he uses a metaphorical interpretation. He believes allah's descent does not mean descent, allah's foot doesn't mean foot. He is a practitioner of taqi-yya
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@quintessence3991 Those scriptures existed during the time of Jesus and were used by the Jews of his time. Now you answer my question. Show us any islamic scripture before the time of muhummud. If you can't, it means islam is based on fiction
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@andys3035 he is an attention seeker. He likes to hear the sound of his own voice
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@AlonzoHarris235 AGE OF ADULTHOOD IN THE BIBLE IS TWENTY because God in the Bible called all those under the age of 20 as children Numbers 14:29-32 In this wilderness your bodies will fall—every one of you twenty years old or more who was counted in the census and who has grumbled against me. Not one of you will enter the land I swore with uplifted hand to make your home, except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun. As for your children that you said would be taken as plunder, I will bring them in to enjoy the land you have rejected. But as for you, your bodies will fall in this wilderness. Taqi-yya exposed 🤓
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@techwood1233 This abdul claims the Trinity is not found in the Bible yet even non Christians such as you can find the concept within the Bible. But what this abdul doesn't tell you that is the toeheed is not found in the 37 qurans. Different islamic sects have different models of toeheed. These models were invented in the 13th century. This abdul himself is a salafi. His version of toeheed is different from the asharis, shias or ismailis.
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@Lavender-blue80 Abdul Alonzo Harris pretends to be very knowledgeable but got caught using a footnote as a hadith after watching uthman's videos. He avoids talking about it 😂
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Words of scholar Marijn van putten showing the variants between the Birmingham manuscript and the current qurans: In the Birmingham manuscript we find the following: * Q10:45 naḥšuruhum which is the reading of all readers except Ḥafṣ ʿan ʿĀṣim. * Q10:58 taǧmaʿūna which is the reading of Ibn ʿĀmir, ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar and Ruways ʿan Yaʿqūb. All others read *yaǧmaʿūna*. * Q18:26 tušrik which is a reading unique to Ibn ʿĀmir. The rest has *yušrik*. * Q20:13 ʾaḫtartuka which is the majority readnig. Only Ḥamzah has *ʾaḫtarnāka*. * Q21:80 li-tuḥsinakum which is the reading of Ibn ʿĀmir, ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar and Ḥafṣ ʿan ʿĀṣim, as opposed to *li-nuḥṣinakum*. * Q21:87 naqdir which is the reading of everyone but Yaʿqūb. Yaʿqūb has *yuqdar*. * Q21:104 naṭwī which is the reading of everyone by ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar. ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar has *tuṭwā*. * Q22:45 ʾahlaknāhā which is the majority reading. ʾAbū ʿAmr and yaʿqūb read *ʾahlaktunā*. * Q22:47 taʿuddūna which is the majority reading. Ibn Kaṯīr, Ḥamzah. al-Kisāʾī and Ḫalaf read yaʿuddūna. * Q23:21 nusqīkum or *nasqīkum*, which is the majority reading. Only ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar reads *tasqīkumū*.
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@AlonzoHarris235 Your authentic source: Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (🐷) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). -Sunan Abi Dawud 4002; Now watch how you'll run 🤣
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Scholar Marijn Van putten doesn't believe the qurans are perfectly preserved: The companion readings of Ibn Masʿūd and ʾUbayy clearly deviated much more radically from the Uthmanic text (for the obvious reason that the Uthmanic text did not exist to deviate from). But neither reading has come down to us in a complete description. You could not recite the Quran today according Ibn Masʿūd. But we nevertheless have many plausible reports of specific readings attributed to them that do not follow the Uthmanic text. Just like the "two lost Surahs", there is really no good objective way to reject those readings as also Quran. But they are nevertheless, definitely not preserved in their entirety.
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Words of Scholar Marijn Van Putten prove the qurans are not perfectly preserved: But if one says that any two muṣḥafs are word-by-word identical, that is clearly incorrect. Even between the two most popular transmissions today, Ḥafṣ and Warš, they do have different words in certain places in the Quran. Yes. Because formulated like that, it is absolutely wrong, and the Quran is not preserved. (when asked if the quran was preserved word for word) I've seen Muslims claim that the muṣḥafs with variant readings that Jay Smith, for example, has polemically proffered were nefariously photoshopped by him. That's of course not true.
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@Sunni_Mikhail Taqiyya. The royal We was never used during the time of muhummud.
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@Arctic117 What is quran? A. Revelation What is qira'ats? A. Invention 🤣🤣🤣
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@Durray13 When talking to an abdul: Q. Who is allah? Abdul: god of islam Q. Is allah the only uncreated? Abdul: Yes Q. Are the right hands of allah uncreated? Abdul: Yes Q. Is the shin of allah uncreated? Abdul: Yes Q. Are the qurans uncreated? Abdul: Yes Q. How many uncreated? Abdul: One uncreated Q. Is allah the same as his hands? Abdul: No Q. Is allah the same as his shin? Abdul: No Q. Are allah, allah's right hands, allah's shin and the qurans (allah's attributes) one? Abdul: Yes Q. Are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit one? Abdul: No Q. Is Jesus God? Abdul: No because something that is uncreated cannot be created. Q. Are the qurans uncreated and created? Abdul: Yes Q. Are hafs quran, warsh quran and doori quran three qurans? Abdul: No. They are 3 recitations not 3 qurans. Q. What does "quran" mean? Abdul: RECITATION Q. Are all the qurans the same? Abdul: Yes Q. But one quran says "I", another says "you" Abdul: They are different accents
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@AlonzoHarris235 allah is a contradiction, abduls claim allah has one self which means allah is like his creation
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@AlonzoHarris235 allah is a contradiction: allah is almighty but can't enter his own creation ✔️
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@AlonzoHarris235 gibril can consume the infinite words of allah 👉that's a contradiction
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@raffam3559 haha. That's probable. Abdul Alonzo Harris is either the abdul at speakers corner carrying the signboard shouting "I am Messiah" or he is related to that guy 🤣🤣🤣
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