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  1. ​ @northstar1690  The differences between the Birmingham manuscript (Mingana 1572a and BnF Arabe 328(c) folios) and the modern qurans listed by scholar Marijn van putten: In the Birmingham manuscript we find the following: * Q10:45 naḥšuruhum which is the reading of all readers except Ḥafṣ ʿan ʿĀṣim. * Q10:58 taǧmaʿūna which is the reading of Ibn ʿĀmir, ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar and Ruways ʿan Yaʿqūb. All others read *yaǧmaʿūna*. * Q18:26 tušrik which is a reading unique to Ibn ʿĀmir. The rest has *yušrik*. * Q20:13 ʾaḫtartuka which is the majority readnig. Only Ḥamzah has *ʾaḫtarnāka*. * Q21:80 li-tuḥsinakum which is the reading of Ibn ʿĀmir, ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar and Ḥafṣ ʿan ʿĀṣim, as opposed to *li-nuḥṣinakum*. * Q21:87 naqdir which is the reading of everyone but Yaʿqūb. Yaʿqūb has *yuqdar*. * Q21:104 naṭwī which is the reading of everyone by ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar. ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar has *tuṭwā*. * Q22:45 ʾahlaknāhā which is the majority reading. ʾAbū ʿAmr and yaʿqūb read *ʾahlaktunā*. * Q22:47 taʿuddūna which is the majority reading. Ibn Kaṯīr, Ḥamzah. al-Kisāʾī and Ḫalaf read yaʿuddūna. * Q23:21 nusqīkum or *nasqīkum*, which is the majority reading. Only ʾAbū Ǧaʿfar reads *tasqīkumū*.
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  2. ​ @northstar1690  Marijn van putten: We know that the companions of the prophet had different Qurans from the Uthmanic text, and different from one another. The Sanaa Palimpsest confirms that such reports are accurate. There was much more variation at this time. In part due to (semi-)oral transmission. There is no reason to assume the Uthmanic text has the more accurate form every time. Plenty of times that a reading attributed to Ibn Masʿūd or ʾUbayy is just as plausible if not more plausible than the Uthmanic text.
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  3. ​ @northstar1690  200 verses missing from Surah Al-Ahzab It was narrated by ‘Abdullah the son of Imam Ahmad in Zawaa’id al-Musnad (21207), ‘Abd ar-Razzaaq in al-Musannaf (599), Ibn Hibbaan in his Saheeh (4428), al-Haakim in al-Mustadrak (8068), al-Bayhaqi in as-Sunan (16911), Ibn Hazm in al-Muhalla (12/175), via ‘Aasim ibn Bahdalah, from Zirr, who said: Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said to me: How long is Soorat al-Ahzaab when you read it? Or how many verses do you think it is? I said to him: Seventy-three verses. He said: Only? There was a time when it was a long as Soorat al-Baqarah, and we read in it: “The old man and the old woman, if they commit zina, then stone them both, a punishment from Allah, and Allah is Almighty, Most Wise.” Ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This is a clearly saheeh isnaad, as clear as the sun, in which there is no fault. End quote. Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This is a hasan isnaad. This implies that there were more verses in it, then the wording and ruling were both abrogated. And Allah knows best. End quote from Tafseer Ibn Katheer (6/335)
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  4. ​ @northstar1690  Taqi-yya! The royal We was never used in the time of muhummud
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