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"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."
- RFE/RL
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From 2014: in a release by the state Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) of an telephone call recorded between Alexander Barkashov, the longtime leader in Moscow of a Russian neo-Nazi group called Russian National Unity (Russkoye Narodnoye Edinstvo, or RNE) and Dmitriy Boitsov, the head of an obscure Donetsk organization calling itself Orthodox Donbas. Barkashov, a former Russian army special forces corporal, maintains good relations with military and police agencies in Russia, for which he says his group’s black-uniformed paramilitary members are available to serve as reserve forces.
SBU posted to YouTube its recording of the two-minute-plus conversation with accurate English subtitles, expletives included. In it, Boitsov says that the separatist forces don’t control Donetsk province well enough to manage Sunday’s vote. “We’re not able to carry this referendum out, we’re surrounded, Donetsk won’t hold” he says.
“Hang in there” answers Barkashov from Moscow. “You must follow through, otherwise it will look as if you’ve been scared.”
“We’re not scared, it’s just that nothing is ready for the referendum,” Boitsov replies. “It’s impossible to conduct it legally while we’re surrounded.”
“Dima, just flog whatever you want. Write down something like 99 percent,” says Barkashov. Just write it all in. What are you gonna do, walk around and collect [ballot] papers? … Let’s say 89 percent voted for the Donetsk Republic. And that’s it!”
As Barkashov explains, Boitsov interjects: “Ahh, that’s it. Okay, I understand.”
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@@user-df2sw4gd5hhe should not have been honored in Parliament. That was a big-time screw up.
But people in the audience cannot be blamed. Some are saying anyone who fought against the Soviets was a German collaborator & that the audience should have known this & not applauded. Utter nonsense.
Ukrainian Insurgent Army
The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (Ukrainian: Українська повстанська армія, УПА, romanized: Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiia, abbreviated UPA) was a Ukrainian nationalist paramilitary and partisan formation founded by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists on October 14, 1942.[1] During World War II, it was engaged in guerrilla warfare against the Soviet Union, the Polish Underground State, Communist Poland, and Nazi Germany.[2] ⬅️
OUN's goal was to drive out occupying powers and set up an independent government, it would be achieved by a national revolution led by a leader with dictatorial power; OUN accepted violence as a political tool against enemies of their cause.[3] In order to achieve this goal, a number of partisan units were formed, merged into a single structure in the form of the UPA, which was created on 14 October 1942. From February 1943, the organization fought against the Germans in Volhynia and Polesia.[4] At the same time, its forces fought an evenly matched war against the Polish resistance,[5] during which the UPA carried out an ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volhynia and eastern Galicia, resulting in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths.[6][7][8][9] From late spring 1944, the UPA and OUN-B – faced with Soviet advances – cooperated with German forces against the Soviets and Poles in the hope of creating an independent Ukrainian state.[10]
After the Germans were pushed out, Soviet NKVD units fought against the UPA, which led armed resistance against Soviets until 1949. On the territory of communist Poland, the UPA tried to prevent the forced deportation of Ukrainians from western Galicia to the Soviet Union until 1947.[5]
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Here's how they conduct "referendums":
from 2014:
"Secession Referendum Appears Ill-Prepared – and Kyiv Depicts a Plan to Falsify Vote Result" -- Atlantic Council
Excerpt:
" .... with the release by the state Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) of an telephone call recorded between Alexander Barkashov, the longtime leader in Moscow of a Russian neo-Nazi group called Russian National Unity (Russkoye Narodnoye Edinstvo, or RNE) and Dmitriy Boitsov, the head of an obscure Donetsk organization calling itself Orthodox Donbas. Barkashov, a former Russian army special forces corporal, maintains good relations with military and police agencies in Russia, for which he says his group’s black-uniformed paramilitary members are available to serve as reserve forces.
SBU posted to YouTube its recording of the two-minute-plus conversation with accurate English subtitles, expletives included. In it, Boitsov says that the separatist forces don’t control Donetsk province well enough to manage Sunday’s vote. “We’re not able to carry this referendum out, we’re surrounded, Donetsk won’t hold” he says.
“Hang in there” answers Barkashov from Moscow. “You must follow through, otherwise it will look as if you’ve been scared.”
“We’re not scared, it’s just that nothing is ready for the referendum,” Boitsov replies. “It’s impossible to conduct it legally while we’re surrounded.”
“Dima, just flog whatever you want. Write down something like 99 percent,” says Barkashov. Just write it all in. What are you gonna do, walk around and collect [ballot] papers? … Let’s say 89 percent voted for the Donetsk Republic. And that’s it!”
As Barkashov explains, Boitsov interjects: “Ahh, that’s it. Okay, I understand.”
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Unfortunately there are few western fools that have become Kremlin mouthpieces. MacGregor, Mearsheimer, Oliver Stone, Roger Waters, Scott Ritter, Tucker Carlson, etc.
And of course the propaganda shills like Mercouris, Christoforou, Lancaster, Duggan, etc
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"Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."
From: 'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany? - Rferl
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@LeonAllanDavis while you ponder on my previous reply, here are some fact checks:
"The US claims all the credit ..." -- that's news to me. On the contrary, the Russians claim they defeated Germany & as evidence cite their casualty numbers, all the while ignoring or minimizing the support of the Allies -- from Lend-Lease to the Normandy landings that opened up a 2nd front.
"The Russians lost maybe 25% of their people" ... no, the figure is 12.7% -- literally half of what you claim
"The Russians lost upwards of 27 million ..." -- er, no, that's the SOVIET UNION. You are falling for the current Kremlin revisionist narrative that it was solely Russia that fought, bled, & died -- when it was the members of the Soviet Union -- that includes Ukrainians & Belarusians who suffered the highest casualties as a percentage of their populations -- Russia ranks 6th on that list:
Deaths as % of 1940 Population
Belorussian SSR: 25.3%
Ukrainian SSR: 16.3%
Latvian SSR: 13.7%
Armenian SSR: 13.6%
Lithuanian SSR: 12.7%
Russian SFSR: 12.7%
"Baerbock: ...at war with Russia" -- interesting that you'd bring up something that is clearly being twisted by Russian propaganda. Her wording was bad, no doubt, but the context was that she was saying that infighting within EU must stop in order to concentrate on the Russia-Ukraine war. The German Government & Chancellor further clarified her remarks & reiterated that neither Germany nor NATO are parties to the conflict. Source: "Germany says it is not a warring party in Ukraine" - DW
"Azov": yes, neo nazis formed Azov as a result of the weak Ukrainian military & its inability to defend the country from Russian-backed separatists in 2014. They are no longer a "neo nazi unit" -- though undoubtedly some neo nazis are still within its ranks, as I'm sure there are some covert elements of neo-Nazis among all European, American, & Russian forces. To focus on this 1 unit & label the entire country as nazis, is once again Kremlin propaganda.
Sources:
"Much Azov about nothing: How the ‘Ukrainian neo-Nazis’ canard fooled the world"
-Alasdair McCallum, Monash University
&
"What is Azov Regiment? Honest answers to the most common questions"
- Vyacheslav Likhachev, Euromaidan Press
Finally, "For Russians the trauma ... memories are raw ..." -- curiously, the memories of the Soviet contributions to starting WW2 -- in particular, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact & Stalin's alliance with Germany to invade & carve up Poland; as well as Soviet annexation of the Baltic States, & Soviet invasion of Finland -- seem to have suffered from severe bouts of amnesia.
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I'd like to add:
"Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."
From: 'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany? - Rferl
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Speaking of nuance:
Ukrainian Insurgent Army
The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (Ukrainian: Українська повстанська армія, УПА, romanized: Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiia, abbreviated UPA) was a Ukrainian nationalist paramilitary and partisan formation founded by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists on October 14, 1942.[1] During World War II, it was engaged in guerrilla warfare against the Soviet Union, the Polish Underground State, Communist Poland, and Nazi Germany.[2] ⬅️
OUN's goal was to drive out occupying powers and set up an independent government, it would be achieved by a national revolution led by a leader with dictatorial power; OUN accepted violence as a political tool against enemies of their cause.[3] In order to achieve this goal, a number of partisan units were formed, merged into a single structure in the form of the UPA, which was created on 14 October 1942. From February 1943, the organization fought against the Germans in Volhynia and Polesia.[4] At the same time, its forces fought an evenly matched war against the Polish resistance,[5] during which the UPA carried out an ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volhynia and eastern Galicia, resulting in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths.[6][7][8][9] From late spring 1944, the UPA and OUN-B – faced with Soviet advances – cooperated with German forces against the Soviets and Poles in the hope of creating an independent Ukrainian state.[10]
After the Germans were pushed out, Soviet NKVD units fought against the UPA, which led armed resistance against Soviets until 1949. On the territory of communist Poland, the UPA tried to prevent the forced deportation of Ukrainians from western Galicia to the Soviet Union until 1947.[5]
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I'll offer:
Ukrainian Insurgent Army
The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (Ukrainian: Українська повстанська армія, УПА, romanized: Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiia, abbreviated UPA) was a Ukrainian nationalist paramilitary and partisan formation founded by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists on October 14, 1942.[1] During World War II, it was engaged in guerrilla warfare against the Soviet Union, the Polish Underground State, Communist Poland, and Nazi Germany.[2] ⬅️
OUN's goal was to drive out occupying powers and set up an independent government, it would be achieved by a national revolution led by a leader with dictatorial power; OUN accepted violence as a political tool against enemies of their cause.[3] In order to achieve this goal, a number of partisan units were formed, merged into a single structure in the form of the UPA, which was created on 14 October 1942. From February 1943, the organization fought against the Germans in Volhynia and Polesia.[4] At the same time, its forces fought an evenly matched war against the Polish resistance,[5] during which the UPA carried out an ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volhynia and eastern Galicia, resulting in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths.[6][7][8][9] From late spring 1944, the UPA and OUN-B – faced with Soviet advances – cooperated with German forces against the Soviets and Poles in the hope of creating an independent Ukrainian state.[10]
After the Germans were pushed out, Soviet NKVD units fought against the UPA, which led armed resistance against Soviets until 1949. On the territory of communist Poland, the UPA tried to prevent the forced deportation of Ukrainians from western Galicia to the Soviet Union until 1947.[5]
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