Comments by "Ōkami-san" (@mweibleii) on "David Pakman Show"
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Maybe you don't get? Our economy, and society, is in decline. I personally think this is due to 50 years of over-regulation and socialism started in the "Great Society" of the 1960s, but, whatever the cause - we are living in it. AND, do you know what small pea-brained politicians who make a living offering a functionally illiterate public free-shit (see: K-14) think is a good idea for "turning around the economy"? Well, the answer is: Murder. Our pea-brained con artist / supposed civil servants / politicians think War is how you get the economy moving again. So, when shills like David here con you into thinking we should bomb Russia, with NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE, make sure you do the right thing and volunteer to be first to go. You know, because some shill, somewhere, said something - or so you hear from a shill.
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50 years of 'conservative economic failure'? LOL You are insane? You must be. Name one aspect of our economy that is 'conservative" (whatever you think that means). Are trillions of dollars in T-Bond sales 'conservative'? Is bailing out the Banks 'conservative'? Is making raw milk sales illegal - conservative? How about our generational welfare ghettos? Conservative? How about our broken government schools? Conservative? Give me a break. There is no 'conservative' economics class - almost all economic classes are based on Keynesian economic models. These are not 'conservative' or 'liberal'.
Anyway, I don't care. IMO I imagine we Americans will either elect a far-right dictator or a far-left dictator. And that's the way forward for us. My guess is, you and other Americans will be conned into believing Russian, Chinese, martians, (whomever) are the enemy and be frog marched off to die in another phony war defending "Liberty" and "Freedom" LOL You'll switch from left to right, to left again - because that's what you people do.
Anyway, as I said, I don't care. I do think 4 years of Trump will be hilarious to watch. Beginning with the Republican controlled Senate blocking all of his efforts to make any change happen. That's NOT how our system works. Which is why I imagine, one day, you'll eventually cheer for our Dictator.
In the meantime, feel free to believe in all the Fake News that is barfed onto you.
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Tamás Szabó One more time, because you're obviously missing this part: NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE. As for the so-called 'intelligence' agencies, these liars told us there were WMD in Iraq just to invade to make money for the MIC.
AGAIN: Craig Murray. the Chancellor of the University of Dundee, wrote two days ago:
"As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two."
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"I know who leaked them. I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things."
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Sorry snowflake, but Trump is our next POTUS. Anyway, keep watching FAKE NEWS, keep confused. It isn't going to change this fact. Oh, and get this? Trump will probably win a second term - this means your next decade is a decade of Trump. All day, everyday, POTUS Trump. LOL :)
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In summery: There is not a SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Russia was in any way involved in our election. The sickest part of this FAKE NEWS, being promulgated by FAKE NEWS CASTERS/PROPAGANDISTS and other small fry nobody's (like David here) and then eaten hook-line-and-sinker by suckers who wish to overturn the election, is these same LIARS, lied us into the Iraq war with their FAKE NEWS about FAKE WMD. Believe me, there are lots of people in the US Government who'd LOVE nothing more than to send suckers like you two off to die in a proxy war against Russia. Sadly, you two would be waving our silly flag right up until your very real deaths over a very FAKE fantasy story. And why? Was the DNC going to give you some free-shit? Like Obama was going to give you free-healthcare? Or maybe Sanders was going to give you free K-14? You know, because the first 12 sucked, so why not 2 more free years.
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So, suck it up snowflakes, our POTUS is Donald Trump. I personally find it utterly hilarious. Not that it matters, soon things will go back to business as usual. Why? Because THAT is our system. My guess is, you two have no idea how the government of the USA actually runs. As for me, I plan to to leave the USA. I'm done living side-by-side with you special snowflakes. Try not to be suckered into another never-ending FAKE war like the ones we're in right now.
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The last people I would trust is the "intelligent community". They have not provided any actual evidence. In the example of the typhoon warning, suppose there is a warning. Okay, and then after the warning, we can go back and look at the evidence itself. We can see the seismometer recording, we can inspect the instrumentation.
Here we have zero. Nothing. Just hot air from government agencies well known for making up information cough WMD cough when it suites their needs and expands their powers. Again, provide evidence. The election is over, if the so called Russian Hacks were caught out, then they know it - so share the data with the public. They're not sharing the data, because there is no data. There is no evidence.
Worse still, WaPo's owner's company (Amazon) was given a $600,000,000 contract by the CIA, to build their cloud servers. And now we have WaPo pushing the CIA's bullshit. This is called nepotism. It's the natural product of fascism - which is what our nation has become. Little wonder to me we elected Trump. In time, we'll elect someone much more surprising - just wait and see. Think of this as a warning ;)
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biscuithammer00 It's not complicated. I've worked in large governmental organizations, at the end of the day most of the 'professionals' running these institutions made their way up the public service ladder kissing arse, saying the right things, and making the right friends. If you think public 'servants' give two shits about the public - you are naive'. This narrative works for the CIA - that's why you think it's real. In reality though, it's not real. I know of someone right now, who spent 100s of millions 'curing' a disease, he's being given an award this year, he made everything up.
And that was at a small public institution.
While I've never worked in anything like the CIA, I have worked in institutions that spend billions each year (wasting most of it) - with little to nothing at all to show for it (like our war on terror, or war on drugs, or war on privacy, and etc....). Luckily for them, the public keeps paying their taxes - like the suckers we are.
I imagine, a big scary WMD does wonders for bottom line of the people in the MIC (who made trillions over this lie) and with the supposed Russia Hack (that never happened) this both helps the CIA's bottom line (those $600 million dollar cloud servers don't come cheap - and cost a lot to maintain and upgrade) and probably is payback for some favors along the way.
What better to get more money out of a stupid public, than to play on the public's fear of big scary Russians. A trick as old as time. Gaius Marius made good use of this trick to rule Rome as a Dictator for a time near the end of the Republic.
Anyway, the fact is, there is no evidence of a Russian hack. Just the lies of known liars. AND ALL of the evidence that there is, all suggests it was not a Hack, but a DNC insider who took data from a server he had legal access to because of the way Sanders was being railroaded by the corrupt DNC. The blood- sperm spirit soup being an accidental discovery, and one you'd expect from these creeps.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to leaving the USA, this ship and been sinking for years and is now taking on water like never before. Don't be surprized if you're not call upon to 'defend' the nation from Russians and sent to die in another phony war like the one's we waging today.
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biscuithammer00 LOL I can see you have never worked in a large public institution and have little idea how things actually work. Your role in all of this, as far as your public servants are concerned, is to shut up, pull the magic voting lever right or left, and (importantly) keep paying your income taxes, state taxes, local taxes, etc... don't question the system itself, just play your part as tax chattel. And, if you don't think there's people who'd love nothing better than a war with Russia, think again. I've worked in both public and private and while both have good and bad people, I've only met true sociopaths in the public institutions. My guess is private corporations generally flush these types of people or restrict their movement simply because they cost money. A problem that governmental institutions don't have to worry as much about.
As for Trump having dealing in Russia - and? You could say the same of Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, GM, GE, IBM, etc... etc...
Lastly: One more time, there is ZERO evidence of Russian Hacks altering the election - let alone Putin himself. There's very good evidence of a DNC insider leaking emails. How do we know this? Because the person he/they/she leaked the emails to SAID THAT THE EMAILS CAME FROM A DNC INSIDER. Jesus H Christ. How much more do you need?!? You're going to take the work of the CIA - the same bullshitters who lied us into attacking Iraq? WMD ring any bells?
On the one hand you have ZERO evidence of Russian hackers and on the other you have an actual person saying yes, we received the emails from a DNC staffer who was pissed over how the corrupt Clinton Campaign was railroading Bernie Sanders. You can choose which you want to believe. It's not going to change what actually happened.
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biscuithammer00 Unless we can look into a persons mind, then yes, I agree - we will never known what motivated the leaker, or anyone else, ever. In this case, the person said they were handing over the emails saved on the DNC computer they had access to specifically because the corrupt DNC (a private company by the way) was railroading Sanders.
As for why don't we look into the Russian hacks, we have, they didn't happen.
As for monitoring for hacking of actual governmental agencies - we do this now, for Russia, China, etc....
The DNC is a private company, they have to pay for their own security. I suggest they hire a better private security company then the one they had (assuming they even bothered). Perhaps if they spend more of their ill gotten money on tech security, and less on propaganda and railroading Sanders, Crooked Hillary would be POTUS.
Thank Gawds they're as incompetent as they are corrupt :)
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biscuithammer00 And they did the same thing with WMD in Iraq. Culminating in Powell giving a speech to the UN and leading to our trillion dollar phony war. If you look into the start of the Vietnam war, you'll find the US Government lied about that too. So, sorry if I don't take the word of known liars. Not only that, but I KNOW how large governmental agencies work - they run on bullshit. As in, their fuel is bullshitting. Beginning with the politician who have to lie to a functionally illiterate public to get elected, to the millions of public 'servants' who'd say and/or do just about anything to secure more money as they boot-lick their way up the public service ladder. So, again, provide evidence - as it stands, there is ZERO evidence.
It should be noted, our jobs, as citizens, is NOT to trust government and to constantly work to limit it and restrain it. When it makes a claim like this, we demand evidence and it is presented or people should be fired.
Note; which programs do you want to cut to give more money to the CIA? Would you like to cur cancer research funding? Or do you want to cut SSI payment? Or is this just a case of magic happens? Also, when you grow an agency, it doesn't then shrink - it continues to grow. Forever. You want to give the CIA more money and resources - well, you're in good company, lots of employees at the CIA would love to waste your money on their lunches while selling you bullshit about Russians.
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biscuithammer00 They say they already have the evidence - good, they can present what they have. It's not like they're going to stop investigating various means of hacking - there's entire agencies dedicated to doing just this. The NSA spends hundreds of millions / wastes hundreds of millions doing just this. So, either they can present their data, and if it's credible, continue to do the research (it's not like the supposed Hackers are STILL hacking, not that there were any to begin with). So, again, in conclusion, no evidence, then I'm not buying David's argument. He's simply towing the Government's line like a lapdog, without demanding proof. There is evidence that this was a pissed off DNC employee - which, in all likelihood, it was. Everything else, is just Government propaganda.
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/20/george_w_bushs_cia_briefer_admits_iraq_wmd_intelligence_was_a_lie/
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Gene Starwind I don't disagree a 'strong' (whatever this means) middle class is good for society. This is achieved by having more freedoms, not less. More.
If we want the price of labor to be higher, then we need to drive up the demand for labor by reducing the supply of labor. Competition for the remaining labor will push up the price naturally. Artificially pushing up the price, will simply drive up inflation (which is what happens - leaving the poor that didn't get a job stuck with the inflation but no job). Of course, since we're talking about money, this is a huge part of the problem. We need a new way to generate money such that there's different types of money.
To reduce the supply of labor we could
(1) Eliminate Government Schools (and their 1 in 5 functional illiterate graduation rate) and bring in pedagogy competition. Oh, but so-called Progressive's like David here would demagogue this saying we don't care about the children.
(2) Eliminate regulations that act as barriers to entry into the markets. But, but so-called Progressive's like David here would demagogue this saying we don't care about the safety.
(3) Eliminate licencing scams and rent-seeking, but so-called Progressive's like David here would demagogue this saying we don't care about the Government Unions et.al.
(4) End Income Tax / the tax on labor. But so-called Progressive's like David here would demagogue this saying we don't care about the Good of Society.
There's plenty of things we could do to enlarge the middle class and make labor more valuable. But, Progressives will never, ever, in a million years, allow us the freedom to do so.
I've lived in countries where the minimum wage is $15/hr. A 200 gram bag of chips cost $4.99, a can of Coke $2, and value meal at McDonald's would run about $12 and get this, the poor are still poor, the middle class is trapped paying ungodly tax and it's nearly impossible to do anything because everyone is working 80 hrs a week (mother's a fathers - leaving children in day care all week) just to scrap by.
But, don't worry, we're not going to become a freer society. We're going to become less free and more socialistic. We will lose more civil liberties, it will be harder to start a business, the poor will be poorer and we'll all get used to the NSA keeping an eye on the economy for us. Given this has already happened, it's just more of the same. So, expect more of the same for the next 3 - 4 decades.
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Hi eyelashes look strange to me. Is that normal?
I don't think "Obama" has the time to worry about something so petty as a place card, he's too busy promising free stuff while paying for more drone attacks and spying on us via the NSA.
Note: USDA "Organic" is a great example of Government Oligarchy. There used to be plenty of private companies (ex: American Heart Association) that would work towards certifying food as heart safe or organic. The thugs over at the USDA used their legal means in their attempts to steal and to monopolize this market. Currently, as we speak, the thugs that run the USDA are hard at work putting actual organic certification business OUT of business. It's kind of hard to compete against 'free' / tax payer funded.
One day there will ONLY be the USDA as the will have used their Government monopoly to put ALL of their competitors out of businesses - at that time, the USDA "organic" certification will be turned over to Monsanto et.al. and we as a nation will continue our march to our Socialistic Progressive Utopia where the Government takes care of everything for us.
Enjoy the USDA "regulated" boiled in ammonia off cuts, snout, hooves, tail, hair, bone mixed with food coloring / Pink Slime that the USDA "regulates" is fit for human consumption. Only an IDIOT would think the USDA should be allowed to regulate what is classified as organic or all natural. Let the courts set a legal precedence as to how these terms are defined and then let private companies, people who actually care about organic foods, compete to apply their must more rigorous certifications.
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MindEFX
These numbers can be misleading. For example, Clinton deregulated the banks, this meant a huge number of people went into finance who would have otherwise went into other professional careers. For example, a large number of mathematicians went into making algos for banks instead of developing algos for medicine. Further, at the same time that puke Greenspan lowered interest rates WAY below market price until they were negative (we could call this 'fascism' or 'progressive socialism', take your pick).
Thus, because of these two idiots, our entire economy shifted into finance and housing. Culminating in a bubble in both that destroyed our way of life and possibly the nation. Now there's no jobs. Why? Because all our resources were put into these two moronic ventures of finance and housing.
So, you may think Clinton was the best thing since sliced bread - however, he wasn't. He was another pea-brained moron (no different from Bush Jr) who meddled with the markets and caused much more misery than good. If you recall, the market took a dive, literally, just after he left.
This is the thing about macroeconomics, no one can 'redo' and run the experiment again. So, we can't know IF Clinton did a great job or was a moron (as I contend he was - so was Bush Jr and so is Obama).
But, I'll say this about Clinton, any man who takes advantage of his powerful position and uses his influence over others and get kicks shoving a cigar in a girl's vagina is a person sick in the head.
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MindEFX wrote:
"Regulation: Milk must be removed after its expiration date.
Law: Milk was not removed and the law was broke, people may get sick and you get sued by the sick people.
Can you give me any bad regulation, just name one?"
Yes, THIS is an example of 'Bad' regulation. Or, to be more precise, an immoral regulation. Why? Well, you'd first have to study Ethics and learn what morality is and is not. I'll condense this 2500 year old field into a shortened version here. The Law is there to ensure a contract is upheld (unwritten and written). The Law also 'protects' your Property (your body). Therefor, if you bought milk and it was assumed to be for eating - you could go to a court if you bought some milk and it was off. If you got sick, you could sue for damages. If the milk had accidentally gone off, most shop owners will replace it. If they did not, you would use the Law to ensure you received compensation. If the shop owner was pretending to sell 'milk' but in reality it was white colored water - this is fraud. Again, no need of regulation as the Law makes this illegal. If the milk had a protein in it that made you sick. Again, no need of regulation as this is property damage (your body was damaged).
The FACT when one lives in a country with sound Law there is NO NEED of regulation. So? You must be wondering why we have regulation. This is what is interesting. The Regulation is NOT there to protect YOU. It's there to protect the milk producer FROM YOU. You see, the Law protects YOU. But who protects the producer from YOU and your fraudulent claims? Regulation. See, when you claim the milk made you sick, the producer will say "I make milk according to regulation, I am inspected, the FSA approves my farm, etc... and I have papers to prove I have met every inspection satisfactory".
In this way, you will receive nothing in compensation EVEN IF YOU WERE SICK.
I'm pretty sure you haven't the slightest idea how any of this stuff works.
You're what is commonly referred to as a Statheist. Someone who blindly follows the State and believes it's media arm without really understanding much of anything. You 'think' you understand history, law, ethics, logic, etc... but, you are clueless as to all of these subjects.
Example, do you know how a logical argument is structured? Do you know what a major premise is? Do you know what a truth statement is?
Anyway, why is this regulation immoral? Because IF a farmer were to sell perfectly fine raw milk to a customer and that customer wanted to and bought it, it would be in violation of a 'regulation' and the State would initiate violence against innocent (implicit not explicit) people. The initiation of violence against innocent people is immoral.
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