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Comments by "Aaron Okeanos" (@AaronOkeanos) on "Douglas Murray on Donald Trump, Free Speech, Identity Politics" video.
European here. The Brits currently tend to drift away especially conservatives there. He is a typical Tory Brit nowadays: Long Long Long Windy Talking ... no substance and not able to focus on the question and not able to admit that Johnson pushed the Brit Conservatives extremly to the right since 2016 (the Brexit Referendum) and completly changed the Conservatives to something barely resembling what Conservatism was. The good conservatives - the ones people voted for 70 years - are gone. Expelled from the party last year while placing country before career in preventing a so called No Deal Brexit (Leaving the EU without any agreement which has serious economically consequences). If you think you get a European average opinion from a Brit especially a conservative you couldn't be more wrong. The fact of the matter is, the so called Brexiteers in the UK are strong Trump fans because he allows them to live out publicly their racism and hate for foreigners because they think they are ones why the country has so many problems and getting rid of them somehow makes their lifes better and moreso Trump as President in a way allow them to live out their ignorance as well like: He is ignorant in public and he has power so I can be and have too. He somehow gave them a freepass to spread around their bullshit so society is more and more drowing in ignorance and it deepens the divide in society and ignorance as always creates all kind of problems especially with Corona around because ignorance cannot solve problems it only creates them. There is support for Trump across the continent, but almost exclusively from extreme right parties because they hitchhike to grab power. However since most of the continent has proportional voting (not the UK ... yet) the political spectrum is full of all kinds of parties from the left to the right. People have much more choice. But the most right ones of them are the only ones who would vote for Trump the rest not so much not even the Conservatives. Mrs. Merkel from Germany for example actually is a Conservative.
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There is only one party on the right. So of your course Trump is with the Republicans although they have more and more an issue with this. Trump would need his own party for that the Trump Party maybe. Similar to Farages Reform Party is about to re-create to syphon off more public money and make sure he stays relevant after Brexit turning sh...t next year.
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David clearly had respect for his guest, but in my opinion he gave him too much credit and could have been a little more like himself.
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Nah, that's just European influx here raising the level. And the guest was so long talking and boring - even for Europeans - no wonder most of Davids subscribers fled the comments.
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@stefanlempen4346 I'm not a friend of enclaves of foreigners, they tend to isolation and reduce integration in the country they choose to live in. I can understand why (language, culture, religion) but the only thing they create is little islands of where there coming from and this is not good. Integration in the country you live in is important to reduce tensions between the people. The people there need to start knowing each other, communicate with each other, learn from another otherwise it creates only tensions on both sides.
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Trump endorsing Farage and Johnson in last decembers election was way out of line. Noone would do this diplomatical faux pas besides an imbecile. The only ones not having a problem with it are the ones doing it themselves or profiting from it like Trump does - I mean foreign interference.
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Only when it gives him a seat in UK Parliament, a ministry post or even PM or at the very minimum a seat in the House of Lords.
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Must be. Long Long Windy Talking without substance missing the point and avoiding answers. ... Just like Johnson. In a way this interview feels like PMQ's.
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You clearly need to make a little more research on Brexit. I've analysed it over the last 16 months in depth. The people who have racist tendencies, who voted Brexit, who voted Johnson are the middle-class formost the South- and Sout-East of England the Tory Heatlands which are now also the Brexit Heartlands. Because they think the foreigners will come over the hills and take away what they have while living in 98% white national villages in their houses and barely seen one. The same is true for the US. I mean who are the classic Republicans? White middle class wealthy who thinks the poor and foreigners will take what they have. The Republicans (and the new Tories in the UK) exploiting this fear and anxiety to grab power. And it works so well because this class has more than enough money to pay for their election. Statistics have shown in the UK the more mixed the population gets the less xenophobia there is because people live with them every day know that most of them are decent human beings just wanting to live like they do. I would however agree about the 1% owned media, which is especially in the a UK a problem. They stocking the fires of ignorance with misinformation and shifting public opinion. However they do it for power and influence and simply to make money by pro-bussiness, low-regulation and low-tax policies - same as in the US.
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