Comments by "blank" (@_blank-_) on "The Evil Plan for Paris" video.

He's literally responsible for these glass buildings too. The International Style comes in part from his work. You can also add Brutalism to his long list of crimes.
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@beaku3 Barcelona is doing fine with a grid layout. The problem isn't the grid itself but its scale ie the size of the roads and blocks.
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@tcclmnd Maybe they're talking about the Villa Jeanneret-Perret
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It's called "La Seine Saint-Denis"
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@dinodonut5776 The security aspect of Haussmann's renovation of Paris is blown way out of proportion. It was one of the goals but definitely not a priority. If anything, he failed because the Parisian people still managed to revolt during the Commune in 1871. The truth is that Napoléon III wanted to embellish, clean up and modernize Paris. Before becoming Emperor, he was in exile in London where he saw large avenues, big parks, monuments that served as landmarks and brick and stone buildings rather than wooden ones (a consequence of the 1666 fire). It left a lasting impression on him and he wanted Paris to be just as modern. Prior to Haussmann's renovation, the city was a breeding ground for diseases from the lack of proper sanitation. Haussmann extended the sewage and water supply systems which led to an increase in life expectancy. So he was definitely not reactionary: he was motivated by the ideas of progress and modernity.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 Middle Ages: Le Marais neighborhood (which would have been demolished in Le Corbusier's plan) where you can find Nicolas Flamel's house, Musée de Cluny (museum of the Middle Ages), many churches indeed such as Notre-Dame or the Sainte-Chapelle. Renaissance: all the Places royales, the freaking Louvre, many Hôtels particuliers... Yes, most of Paris dates back from the mid-19th century but if you don't find older stuff, you aren't looking.
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@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva Le Corbusier wasn't inspired by modernism. He started it.
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@palosnes3147 What? There are tons of villages, houses, apartment complexes etc prior to WW2 that are stunning. Beauty wasn't limited to vanity projects.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 Paris is already over-crowded. Even if we added more housing, what about public transportation? We should decentralize Paris by enlarging its administrative limits, incorporate the suburbs and densify them (Métropole du Grand Paris) + encourage businesses and people to move to other French cities. But if you really want to destroy Haussmannian buildings, you should tell the Municipality to stop building social housing that looks like it was spawned from the depths of architectural hell. They totally ruin the harmony and identity of the city. If older buildings were replaced by buildings that were just as beautiful, I think people wouldn't be NIMBYs or opposed to demolitions.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 Neither Franco (at least after 1945) and Pinochet were really fascist.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 Pinochet's regime is just your average CIA-backed anti-communist military junta. Nothing about it sounds fundamentally fascist (the OG kind). Anti-leftist repression isn't limited to fascism. Chile's economy was 100% neoliberal and there wasn't a cult of personality around him. Fascist Italia had probably more in common with Peronist Argentina than with Pinochet's Chile in terms of ideology.
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@nco1970 You forgot the whole sanitation and embellishment part. It wasn't just for repressive purposes. Soft power and vanity projects were already a thing back then.
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@hiwelcometochillis2579 So we aren't expandable wage slaves under capitalism?
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@AngzarrArquebusier Chill he wasn't even responding to you.
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Reminds me of Pyongyang.
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We literally created the metric system.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 Fascism is a form of totalitarianism, a step up from authoritarianism.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 "Hausmann type buildings force most people to live in minuscule appartements with no windows or a view directly on the courtyard." Now compare these Haussmannian apartments to those prior. They were even less livable. They caught on fire easily. They had no access to sanitation. Whereas Haussmann extended the sewage and the water supply systems. "People ... don't understand what issues a Haussmannian building raises with modern urban planning" So... what issues? The biggest problem in Paris and in many other cities around the world right now is congestion. Le Corbusier was a fan of the private car, urban highways and single use zoning, remember? Seems like Le Corbu is a bigger problem to modern urban planning than Haussmann, who he called "the first modern urban planner" by the way. As a matter of fact, everyone comes to visit Paris and its "unlivable monstruosities" whereas no one visits its suburbs (la Seine Saint-Denis) which was built following Le Corbusier's principles. These "banlieues" filled with concrete high-rises are soul-crushing poverty traps whereas Paris was until recently a city that welcomed poor, middle class and rich people alike. So yeah, maybe you don't understand what a modernist city is and what issues it raises with actual living, breathing people.
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@azarshadakumuktir4551 When I say "recently" I mean until 20 years ago which is relatively recent compared to 1860. For around 140 years, Paris was still socially mixed. You're saying that it's been a problem for 100 years but in 1920, Paris wasn't exactly gentrified. It's mostly an issue since the 1970s and it intensified in the last 20 years. Absolutely not, Paris was already inhabited by 2 million people during Haussmann's time. His renovation allowed the city to host more people. The population reached ~3 million in 1920 and has declined since the 1970s to go back to 2 million. Paris is already too crowded. We don't need more density in Paris intra-muros. Just look at any picture of the city, it's an endless sea of 6 to 7 stories Haussmannian buildings. I want to preserve Paris' character not for the tourists but for ourselves. I don't want to live in Hong-Kong-upon-Seine but in Paris. You really defend the plan Voisin of Le Corbusier with his giant towers surrounded by nothingness? Or you mean something else by "Corbu compound"? I don't want to displace people away from the center, I want the center to come to them. I want Paris to expand beyond its current tiny boundaries. Let's get rid of the périphérique and annex the Petite couronne. You blame every current problem on Haussmann but completely deny Le Corbusier's responsibility in creating ghettos with his tower blocks.
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@kristiyanivanov7414 Nah because his ideas were stupid
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That green space usually becomes a no man's land.
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Brutalist even
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