Comments by "vinm300" (@vinm300) on "Fox News" channel.

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  21. Syed, (see below for comment you couldn't see) You are right about the success of the Caliphate. However that success brought about its demise. It was to gain access to the (Muslim monopolised )spice trade that Vasco de Gama rounded the Cape of Africa to India.(1498) It was religiously inspired and his ships had the crusader cross on their sails. You suggest the Caliphate crossing the Atlantic........ But there was no need : they had access to India which is what drove the West across the Atlantic. So the West wanted what the Caliphate had : access to India. You are right about tolerance of Jews as well. Christians have treated Jews much worse than Muslims. The 6 Day war :- Egypt were a disgrace. They told Jordan they had destroyed Israel air-power ; so Jordan sent its tanks in and they were slaughtered. I think this is the missing comment ? vinm300 Syed, bravo and very well spoken. I agree the Egypt coup (Muslim Brotherhood ) was Western backed. But remember Mohammed Morsi record on human rights :- "Two weeks before the June 30 mass anti-Morsi protests, President Morsi appointed as governor of Luxor a member of a hard-line Islamist group that had massacred 58 tourists there in 1997." " Incitement against religious minorities continued during Morsi’s rule and was never punished. High-ranking Islamist leaders, sometimes in Morsi’s presence, incited hatred against non-Muslim minorities and even against non-Islamist Muslims." https://freedomhouse.org/article/timeline-human-rights-violations-egypt-fall-mubarak
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  22. Syed, I do enjoy reading your posts. China : another consideration ; the intellectual stagnation of Confucianism. The intellectual elite (Civil/Court Service) having to memorize and regurgitate thousands of pages of text. India : likewise with religion. The intellectual elite were in religious torpor. "West spent almost all their GDP" :- The sophistication of banking helped because countries also acquired a National Debt (which meant they spent almost twice their GDP) "Muslims started viewing science as the absolute truth" : interesting. I saw a youtube Muslim seminar where the Fakir was saying evolution is a 'theory' and asked his young critic to point to a medical text-book that stated it as a fact. (The young man was trying not to laugh , which was brave of him). Six Day war : the was much respect between both armies in the Sinai with Egyptian troops helping injured Israelis and vice-versa. The Egyptian errors were all at the very top. Morsi should have consolidated his position. a) allow the economy to function , invite investment, clamp down on corruption. b) defend Coptic Christians c) ignore hard line extremists in the Muslim Brotherhood. He should have secured power. He had a comfortable democratic majority and could have been in power for years. He should have allowed himself to be lampooned on TV instead of arresting comedians for insulting him. He was his own worst enemy and the West were glad to see the back of him. American loot helped ; particularly silver from S America.
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  23. Syed, allow me to paraphrase your question. "How does religion inhibit progress (if it didn't in the past) ? " Because religion is conservative by nature it flourishes in stasis. The period when China and India fall behind( 17th century) was a period of change. China's Confucianism and India's religious torpor are static : that's why they held them back. Families spent years trying to get sons to pass the Confucian exam in China. India's highest intellectual caste was the Brahmin .Even today in Saudi reciting the Quran is what scholars aspire to. So much brain power wasted. The attitude of a State can hold back or encourage progress. That happened in France : the aristocracy considered trade beneath them and when aristocrats were appointed to control colonies they showed disdain for commerce. By contrast the British & Dutch colonies were run by merchants. That's why France had so little colonial success. Ironically it was fighting the US war of Independence (1775) that put France in so much debt Louis XVI had to call the 3 estates to raise taxes : which resulted in the Revolution (1789) Marwa Elshakry : that's a good observation, that rejection of Darwin (by conservatives) was a rejection of colonialism. " I am against the view that one should participate in a secular democracy ............That’s like going to the casino and thinking you can win enough money to buy the casino." LOL Well said and quite right : once people feel an entitlement to freedom and independence they aren't going to hand power over to some despotic Fakirs. Those final paragraphs were very edifying. Very thought provoking : it reminded me of that Houthi missile launched at Riyadh ; I remember wishing it had been a successful strike. It's surprising how quickly you can lose your humanity : on the computer screen it just seems like a game. To return to the initial question :- Look how Christianity struggles to cope with stem cell research or genetic engineering. Religion hates change. Look at the Papal States , they were the most oppressive in Europe...... "One night in 1859 in the pope's kingdom his police raided a Jewish home. In accordance with one of the “sacred canons” and at the pope's behest, they kidnapped the family's six-year-old." The Pope allowed no telegraph, railway or schools ; he wanted people kept in medieval ignorance. Look at Tibet under the Buddhists : no democracy, no schools or hospitals just a good beating if you didn't pay taxes to the Buddhist Temple. The Dalai Lama wanted the people kept in medieval ignorance. All religions would like people kept in medieval ignorance. All religions are fascist and want to keep people indoctrinated . The Enlightenment only happened when Christianity had lost its grip on power. Diderot (1765 encyclopedia) :- The Jesuits had Louis XV permission to destroy all Diderot's manuscripts but the Chief of Police hid them in his office. (Even the Police sided against religious ignorance). The Pope would have stamped out the Enlightenment if he'd had the power
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