Comments by "firstandforemost87" (@firstandforemost87) on ""Deport them all": McMaster professor under fire for comment about pro-Palestinian protest" video.

Naa. This is a conversation that needs to happen. There are a lot of ppl residing in Canada who have no business being here, and no intention of assimilating. We don’t even have homes for ppl as it is, so its time to discuss getting back to reality when it comes to the economics and politics associated w newcomers.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 There is absolutely a need to assimilate. Deal w it. Our country, our ways.
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Why? Some ppl should be deported, and ppl who support Hamas fit the bill. If I went to Iran and walked around saying ‘Go CIA and go Mossad!’, I’d expect worse than deportation.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 Because it is both stupid and disrespectful to go into another country and walk around proclaiming your support for their enemies (and groups like Hamas are no friend to Canada or it’s allies). This goes for basically every country in the world, as does the expectation of general assimilation. It really isn’t rocket science.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 If you go to another country, you assimilate. I’d expect it of myself elsewhere, and I expect it of others here. If that is wrong, then I don’t want to be right. As for my “lack of intellect”, I’ll just let history and current events be the judge.
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@vinvin4001 It is about votes though; at least for gov. For the asset class it is about nominal growth. There was a time I thought it was unbelievable, but there was also a time when I was naive enough to believe in the legitimacy of our institutions, and the seriousness of the Cdn ppl.
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@josephsmith594 Multiculturalism is a myth and, if what you wee saying were true, there wouldn’t be laws. Laws are merely the codification of certain hard expectations. They are the codification of rigid aspects of culture. Others might not be enshrined in law, but are expected nonetheless. Language proficiency comes to mind. There is a way to do things everywhere. Canada is no exception.
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@Rl-yj2ny Does the charter protect speech which expresses overt support for the nation’s enemies? Hamas is listed as a terrorist threat by the Canadian government, and their recent actions are more than testament to the reality of the classification. I’m not supporting the deportation of ppl who oppose Israeli actions, as you suggested. I support the deportation of non citizens who would openly declare support for an officially listed enemy terrorist organization and their recent massacring of thousands of civilians. To the extent that an act could be considered criminally treasonous, and the individual is a naturalized citizen, then I see no problem w revoking citizenship and deporting them to their country of origin or alternative citizenship. If you can be put in jail for something, then it isn’t unreasonable to revoke a privilege and send them back where they came from. They swear an oath, yes?
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It isn’t anti genocide. It is anti Jew/anti Israel. I really don’t care about Jews or Israel, but stop insulting everybody’s intelligence. We weren’t born yesterday, and we know what ‘from the river to the sea’ means.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 I need to define it for you!? Omg…. I’ll keep it simple for you. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. It means you acquiesce to the laws and customs of your host country, which has been so gracious as to extend the opportunity to join the tribe. If I moved to Japan, I’d do my best to behave as the Japanese expect me to. I’d do that out of respect for the country and its ppl, and out of appreciation for the opportunity they’d given me.
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@josephsmith594 “Not “our” standards and identity. “Your” standards and identity“ First, idk why you put “your” in quotations when that was your wording, and not theirs. Also, every country has its own standards and identities. We sit on different sides of cars, an travel along different sides of the road. Different places have different languages, and varying numbers of spoken languages. Religions differ. Religion’s place in government differs. Your allowances and privileges differ. Look, idk what world you live in or on, but civilization is built on order, and without standards and convention there is chaos. I’m not even attributing morality to any of this. That which is conducive to order is not always good or right, but It is simply universally true that no matter what society you enter into there will be behavioural and civic expectations. Nobody will agree w all of it but, generally, and in a healthy society, a degree of consensus will exist that allows institutions to operate. How well do you suppose a democracy or republic would function if there were no generally agreed upon (and expected) norms and customs?
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@Rl-yj2ny Last time they held an election the Gazans elected Hamas. Yea, it was 2006, and that matters, but they won w a majority of seats in the legislature. Obviously there is popular support in Gaza. Gazans elected them. Gazans support them. Gazans comply w them. If you saw a rally full of ppl of Slavic appeal, and they were waving Russian flags around chanting things like ‘Glory to Russia’, would you… A. Assume they support the Russian war effort and those administering it, or… B. Assume they were just there supporting the Russian ‘ppl’ during the hardships of war, but totally not supporting the war effort? Does the shaven headed man of Slavic appeal w a social media presence chalked full of Russian flags, pictures from attendance at pro Russia rallies, and Russian war slogans, pass your litmus test for immigration? They are out there waving foreign flags that represent a ppl that, most recently, elected a federally labelled foreign terrorist organization into government w a majority of seats in the legislature. ‘Foreign Terrorist Organization’ is another way of saying ‘Small Foreign Enemy Military Entity’. That elected foreign military entity just attacked an ally, killed about 1.5K of their ppl, and took 200 (ish?) of them hostage. They are the enemy. Gaza elected them. That, unfortunately, makes Gaza the enemy. Non citizens who wave the flag of the enemy, promptly after said enemy carries out a historical massacre against an ally, whilst shouting nationalistic slogans like ‘from the river to the sea’ (look at a map of the region, and then tell me what you think that means…) don’t pass my litmus test for residence, let alone citizenship. Do you think the proff’s remarks would be under such scrutiny were she to have endorsed the deportation of the aforementioned belligerent Russian nationalist? Do you think there would be any confusion regarding what his words and symbols meant and represented?
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@mfsperring Yea, and many are saying she should be censored for calling for the penalization of certain protesters. I thought it was the second group you were referring to.
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@magdalen5108 Opposing such a regime? Last I checked, it was the other ‘regime’ that kicked all of this off. If Canadians voted in a government, and that government then went and slaughtered a bunch of Americans, would we not expect some serious retaliation? I sure wouldn’t expect ppl to pour into the streets w woe-is-canada slogans. In the end we all know what ‘from the river to the sea’ means, and we all know Palestinians generally support it.
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@AnonymousPerson-hr6qd Actually, you do want to take lessons from Rome, just as one would take lessons from their own failures. Look it up. Plenty of ppl out there comparing modern times in Western Civilization to the twilight days of the Roman Empire. I mean, its literally a meme right now…
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@Rl-yj2ny Tell me all about my repugnant views. What specifically do you take issue with?
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Not if they aren’t citizens. As another commenter said above, there are lines. Pouring out into the street to celebrate the murder of Israelis (which is what this is) at the hands of a federally recognized foreign terrorist entity certainly crosses all of the lines. We are talking about a country that labelled the proud boys as terrorists. If I’m supposed to condemn them, then you can bet I’m gonna condemn anybody who supports actual terrorists and/or the nation that literally votes them into power.
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@mfsperring Are we penalizing somebody for their views if those views imply that they don’t belong in this country, and those in question are non citizens? Is this not the whole point in making ppl remain here for some time before qualifying for citizenship; so we can figure out if they are ‘Canada’ material?
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 I didn’t say that lol.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 As for how they haven’t assimilated, there are two very obvious ones. In this particular case those in question are, again, openly announcing their support for foreign terrorists who attacked an ally. Bad form. Then there is the more general example that many can relate to, which is the inability (if not the downright refusal) by many to become proficient in even one of the domestic languages. There are two perfectly good examples for you, but I suspect you’ll pretend to still not see the point. Oh well.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 Assimilate - To absorb (immigrants or culturally distinct groups) INTO the PREVAILING culture. That was literally among the definitions for the first result that appeared when I searched the word, btw. Comes from the ‘American Heritage Dictionary’. In other words, when in Rome…
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 I already gave you a definition a week ago, and I didn’t come up a this one. I even told you the dictionary it came from. Seriously, are you being intentionally obtuse, or is this just you?
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 And the prevailing culture in Canada doesn’t support nations that elect foreign terrorist organizations into government. ‘Foreign terrorist organization’ is another way of saying ‘unconventional foreign military entity’. Do you think we should keep in this country non citizens who pour into the streets to declare their support for Canada’s enemies? I think, at a bare minimum, we shouldn’t welcome ppl who hate us or our allies whilst loving our enemies. If we were talking about a bunch of shaven headed slavic guys in track suits, waving around Russian flags and shouting ‘glory to Russia’, you and I both know nobody would be crying over this woman’s remarks.
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@bigpacthatseazye3462 Not a nation. The Nation of Palestine is not a nation? Lol. You just keep taking the Ls. I don’t need to show citizenship numbers. Citizens stay. Not much we can do about that. Standing up for the ‘Palestinian cause’ is really so different from standing up for that of their ELECTED terrorist gov? Come on…. What does ‘from the river to the sea’ mean to you, exactly? That is their cause. Get it through your head.
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