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@nicknolte8671 I’m glad you’re here to correct all of this insidious nonsense from the right and crazy anarcho libertarians with their utopian pretensions that their beliefs can’t be associated with anything bad leading them to deny reality. You should start your own channel to debunk this nonsense about Nazism.
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@nicknolte8671 Brilliant rebuttal! Bravo!
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Yes they’re enemies: ideological enemies. Their beliefs are diametrically opposed to each other. So how on earth can you think that they have the same ideology?
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@TheDoats Socialism based Not based on class is like gin not based on alcohol. The whole point of the ideology is to level economic classes and redistribute wealth without regard for things like race or social status. “Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” Adolf Hitler 1938
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@TheDoats That’s not accurate at all. The Germans actually privatized more industry than the British during the 1930s. I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that there was some kind of seizure of the means of production by the state that is anything remotely comparable to what the bolsheviks did. In fact the German war economy lag behind those of the allies because it wasn’t centrally planned even to the extent that the US economy was much less under the total control of the state as in the Soviet union. Hitler left German industry in the hands of the German capitalist elite. You’re just doing the same silly thing that modern-day libertarians always do in equating authoritarian rule with the left. But Hitler actually argued did democracy was more destructive to capitalism than authoritarianism. And authoritarianism has a much longer history on the right than it does on the left. Are you going to tell me that Henry the eighth was a communist? LOL The problem with that idea is that eliminating economic classes is fundamental to leftist ideology and was bitterly opposed by the Nazis. Internationalism strongly supported by leftist and bitterly opposed by the Nazis because it was anathema to their core ideological principles. The whole point of Nazism was nationalism an opposing Internationalism. Two diametrically opposed ideologies are not different varieties of the same thing. If that’s what you think you don’t know the first thing about the principles of either one.
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@TheDoats Hitler abhorred democracy and said that it was a sure path to socialism. He was as bitter an opponent of western democratic values of tolerance and equality before the law as anyone could be. You’re talking to pure nonsense.
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“He doesn’t lie.” “He must not get much sleep then.” “What?!”
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@pedrovitor5324 Leftist principles are based on presumed equal rights of all people throughout the world. Since the 18th century they have assumed a brotherhood/sisterhood of all people, defining progress as the provision of what all people need according to individual need. Nazism is completely hostile to this goal and diametrically opposed to it. Nazism and leftism are completely incompatible as a result.
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@KameradVonTurnip That’s true but aspirations of treating all men equally began with the birth of leftist ideology in the 18th century. They were further developed throughout the 19th century along with the ideology. By contrast privileging one group over another has always been part of fascist ideology. Even in the beginning this was part of the rationale behind nationalism. And extreme nationalism is of course both Antithetical to leftism and at the core of fascism.
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@KameradVonTurnip This isn’t about personal beliefs of individuals. This is about the principles of the ideology and those are formed by the people who developed it.
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@pedrovitor5324 LOL They “opened” their economy by turning it into a capitalist economy. That was the kind of “opening” the only kind involved: that’s the only reason that they’ve been successful since and you know it. If private property doesn’t exist in China tell that to the many many billionaires who are Chinese nationals and the owners of all the private businesses that drive this capitalist economy. The fact that they were once really communist doesn’t change what they have since decided to do.
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@pedrovitor5324 Well leftism is utopian in supposing that equality can actually be reached similar to the way libertarianism is utopian in thinking that the market solves all problems and that people won’t hurt each other if there’s no government to stop them. Fascism isn’t utopian but it is evil in justifying genocide as a desirable goal. To identify it you don’t have to believe that the ideology is correct in what it says is possible or right. We’re simply determining what it is based on what it establishes as its goals. And we’re not making those goals up but simply comparing those with historical foundations of ideologies to see what we’re looking at. Part of the error in libertarian and right wing ideologues is the assumption that there’s no objective truth, no way to accurately describe something that you don’t believe in other than to say that it’s wrong. I’m not a leftist or fascist. I’m a historian showing you how to correctly identify what these ideologies are.
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@pedrovitor5324 There you go in fantasy land again. Many billionaires are very much in possession of their wealth in China as we speak.
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@KameradVonTurnip No the people that you’re talking about are not the ones who formed the ideology. You said you were talking about individuals who were just following not the people who actually developed the ideas🤷🏼‍♂️
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@KameradVonTurnip You’re defining Napoleon as a rank and file follower in the history of ideology?!🤣😆🤣
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@KameradVonTurnip Who said that the leaders of the development of an ideology are limited to what you consider to be “intellectuals”? No less a person then GWF Hegel called Napoleon a “world historical figure”: a person who embodied the spirit of history in progress. Napoleon pioneered fascist ideas as a romantic nationalist representing “the great nation” of France evoking forms of classical antiquity and validating his rule and his people through aggressive warfare and conquest. He wasn’t emperor of France. He was “emperor of the French” people.
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@KameradVonTurnip Rousseau indeed provided part of the foundation for both Socialism and fascism. What people did with his ideas wasn’t under his control after his death Or even while he was still alive.
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@KameradVonTurnip But I’m not saying that Rousseau’s ideas that led to fascism went through Napoleon. Napoleon developed fascism through his politics.
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@KameradVonTurnip It’s not just Rousseau who created socialism and fascism. He simply provided some of the ingredients that lead to the development separately of each. But each ideology was informed by many other currents in the history of ideas and politics.
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@KameradVonTurnip No and it’s not something that can be explained in soundbites. That’s the whole problem with this page: it’s a lot more complicated than the author would have you believe.
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@chuckysmaria6466 You’re right: he didn’t change very much. He went from not revealing his true intentions in order to manipulate people and gain power into revealing them once he had power. And if his views on economics didn’t change then these remarks express his true views: “Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” Hitler 1938 Go ahead and try to explain how he is describing ANY leftist ideology. “In principle, the Government protects the economic interests of the German Volk not by taking the roundabout way through an economic bureaucracy to be organized by the State, but by the utmost promotion of private initiative and a recognition of the rights of property.” 1933 “The head of the enterprise is dependent on his workforce, the willingness of his workers to participate in a common effort. If they strike, his property is worthless. On the other hand, by what right could they claim a part of this property, even to participate in decisions? Mister Amann, would you accept it if your stenographers suddenly wanted to take part in your decisions? The employer is responsible for production, and assures the workers their subsistence. Our great heads of industry are not concerned with the accumulation of wealth and the good life, rather they are concerned with responsibility and power. They have acquired this right by natural selection: they are members of the higher race. But you would surround them with a council of incompetents, who have no notion of anything. No economic leader can accept that.” 1932
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@tdvwest9514 Again with the making up of new definitions of capitalism to gerrymander the Nazis out of it. Lol If high debt to GDP rather than reliance on private property and a market economy were what defined a country as socialist or not than the US and Japan along with most of Europe would also be socialist. Get real! Everyone knows that every freaking big box store in the United States is filled with goods produced in Chinese factories and that’s the reason for China’s rise to global economic power over the past 30 years. Who do you think you’re fooling with this nonsense?🤷🏼‍♂️
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@tdvwest9514 LOL when you’re ignorant enough to believe that “all large corporations are owned by the Chinese government” What you think I understand is in no interest to me.
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@tdvwest9514 Look you just don’t know enough about history, ideology or economics to have the faintest idea what you’re talking about. Capitalism is BORN in authoritarian states in Renaissance Italy. It has a relatively short history in the United States and a few other places where has been more individual freedom. Your ahistorical definitions of capitalism don’t change that.
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@tdvwest9514 Well you’ve made it more than obvious that you don’t know what socialism, capitalism are-apart from your own made up definitions, much less the different varieties of capitalism such as state capitalism, Illiberal or authoritarian capitalism, or liberal capitalism. I expect you think capitalism is only something that has never actually existed: utopian capitalism where the market is perfectly free. That would put you in the same general domain with Marxists: utopian thinkers who don’t live in the real world as it unfolds historically
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@tdvwest9514 Here’s your most learned definition of capitalism(sarc): No government
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@tdvwest9514 Well even with the dictionary that you’re using China and Nazi Germany are authoritarian capitalist countries. You try to avoid this by writing “alternative facts” about what actually happened/happens in those countries. But again your confusion is rooted in ignorance as well: A simple definition of capitalism won’t include the different varieties of it.
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@tdvwest9514 Oh yeah it’s an “oxymoron” because uneducated people like you don’t know the history or anything about political theory. No your ignorance is not as good as knowledge of political theory and the history of ideology. You’re like a blind man stumbling around in the dark blaming the objects you run into for “striking” you. But you can’t learn the stuff on YouTube discussions. You have to actually read something more substantial.
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@tdvwest9514 Better check what you wrote again. You said all of the large corporations in China are owned by the state. And that’s easily proven false.
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@tdvwest9514 The North Korean government says that it’s a democratic republic where the people have individual liberty. Is that all you need to know to believe that?
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@tdvwest9514 “All of the large Chinese corporations are owned by the Chinese government” Are you suffering from short-term memory loss from smoking too much dope or something?
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@tdvwest9514 What’s wrong with that statement is it’s factually inaccurate. In fact the Chinese government does not own most much less ALL of the large corporations in China.
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@tdvwest9514 Republic is a system of government not a type of government. It’s not an antonym for democracy. E.g. representative democracy is also a good description of a republic
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@tdvwest9514 It’s not a fallacy: it’s a perfect analogy of how authoritarian regimes will use propaganda to make them seem like something that they are not for political expediency. The Nazis couldn’t be socialist not with literally thousands of private property holders including many large privately owned corporations banks railroads etc. Not only allowed to keep their property but in in cases privatized by the Nazis.. Socialist just don’t do that no matter how much you try to spin it.
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@patcoghlan3852 🤣😂🤣🤡🤣 A more complete demonstration of ignorance of Adolf Hitler’s actual history and views would be difficult to imagine. Anti-Sematism and anticommunism were always at the heart of Hitler’s views. Basically you’ve got everything backwards about Hitler. There’s no way to do that while being informed about what he actually did. You simply have no idea what you’re talking about.
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He didn’t change his actual views all that much. He just became more honest about them as he gained power.
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@buzter8135 yep the petulantly ignorant American alt right in it’s silly misunderstanding of history simply refuses to accept it. Anything bad could have anything to do with the right, and so keeps floating, laughable conspiracy theories like this one. if you don’t know that conservatism has been authoritarian for nearly all of history how can you possibly understand the Nazis?
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@buzter8135 it’s the stupidity and self delusion of people who just can’t accept reality that they’ve attached themselves to ideology that makes them fellow travelers with Nazis that’s on display here. What does the alt right have in common with the Nazis? extreme nationalism based on a mythical sense of racial identity, racism, far right ideology, populism, glorification of violence and even Statism, though the alt right somehow, adheres to right wing strong men, while deluding itself into thinking that it still has individual liberty. And it’s the hallmark of a fool to suppose that any belief system is free of all flaws.
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@cookingtravelingmusicandmo2999 indeed he never really changed his opinion. He changed the Nazi party to conform to his opinion. He was an extreme right wing nationalist authoritarian all along. he hijacked the Nazi party and purged it of leftism: producing something that present-day Americans and some others can’t wrap their heads around, but which has a long history in Germany and many other right wing Statism. What did Louis the 14th say? “L’etat C’est Moi” it should be obvious that he was no socialist😊
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@asm7406 he didn’t hate the Ukrainians as a people. He saw Ukrainian nationalism as a counter revolutionary ideology that threatened his power and that of the Soviet Union.
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Stopping individual workers from taking private initiative is capitalism. This is the same thing that we always see from this guy: authoritarianism equals the left and only the left-never mind literally thousands of years of history when it didn’t.
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@oscartang4587u3 no I’m suggesting that conservative authoritarianism has existed for thousands of years. Historically it’s by far the most common and the original form of authoritarianism. Therefore, the Nazis are following an ancient tradition of right wing authoritarianism and no they’re not leftist in any sense of the word. Hitler simply hijacked a leftist organization tricking those who he could into supporting it, and eliminating the diehard true leftists.
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@choosecarefully408 Propaganda is using deception to distort or obscure the facts. The facts are that the Nazis neither pursued a leftist economic program nor adhered to leftist principles. About all you can say is that they used some of the rhetoric of leftist especially early in their history before Hitler hijacked the party.
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@choosecarefully408 People who get tricked by a demagogue in an Orwellian scheme designed to benefit him never like to admit it. They much prefer to think that they’re not being swayed by “the enemy” that he picks for them and to admit that they’re just blindly following him. But he’s just designating an enemy to distract from his own evil acts.
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@choosecarefully408 Sounds like you could just as easily have been doing the opposite.
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@choosecarefully408 It worked very well when Donald Trump used it to program his mindless followers with lying counter narrative after lying counter narrative, even though most of the lies should’ve been obvious as such to a five-year-old.
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@choosecarefully408 Demagogues and knaves hide their crimes and corruption of the truth by Reframing any attempt to expose them as political partisanship rather than simply as ethics. Everything being partisan allows them to avoid responsibility for their amoral behavior. That’s how they destroy the very concept of objective truth.
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@bogdanpopescu1401 the free market or classical liberal capitalism is a relatively new idea. Authoritarian capitalism like that of Nazi Germany is much older dating all the way back to the origins of capitalism in renaissance Italy. Your problem is that you’re only seeing this from the perspective of contemporary anarcho libertarian ideology. Hitler actually claimed that individual liberty and democracy weakened capitalism by subjecting property owners to too much control by workers who had too many rights and privileges they could assert to limit private property rights with
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@bogdanpopescu1401 the word capitalism actually dates from the late 17th century(long before Marx) and the system is much older than that. Throughout its history capitalism has been used far more often under authoritarian governments than within free societies as the term is understood today. Hitler had solid historical justification for his opinion that capitalism depends on strong government limits on individual freedom.
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@bogdanpopescu1401 no
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