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Critical details VOX left out! Intentionally!!! At the time of the 14A, that was historically only for freed slaves, everyone else was still held to our preexisting requirements, laws regarding our two (2) levels of native citizenship, with different level of birthright! Keep these things in mind throughout all of this. At the time U.S. law was children were born the nationality of their father and subject to the jurisdiction of their father’s country. It did not matter if they were born in the U.S.A., they weren’t eligible for American citizenship at all just by being born here. At least the father had to be an American citizen for the child to be born an American citizen at all. Also women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Unmarried women were the nationality of their father, while married women were the nationality of their husband. These are the two levels of native citizenship and the requirements, criteria surrounding them at the time of the amendment! For everyone else except the freed slaves the 14A was for! The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright required being born of at least a citizen father, whether in the country, or abroad. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete birthright requires one being born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The United States of America is “the country”. The child must be born in specifically a state. This means the father must have been an American citizen and married to the mother, for both parents to be citizens. At the time! Then when women gained independent citizenship in 1922, it became both parents must be independent citizens!!
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@EJayMD-11 Washington was a “Citizen” just the same as the 14A “Citizens”, also known as and referred to as the “native born Citizen” in our recorded history. But unlike George, the 14A “Citizens” never had any right to our highest offices. The “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution! This is made real clear in Article II!!! Yet VOX are acting like we only have one level of native citizenship, and only one level of birthright. This hasn’t been true since July 4, 1776, and especially not since citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788, but retroactively dating back to July 4, 1776.
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Seriously, get our of your own heads and read this! Sorry, but learn something!!! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. Then what’s below is extremely important, because you are being lied to! Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in part states: “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,” 12A holds the VP to the same requirement! The Citizen do not have birthright to our highest offices! Not for a very, very long time now!!!
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⁠Washington was a “Citizen” just the same as the 14A “Citizens”, also known as and referred to as the “native born Citizen” in our recorded history. But unlike George, the 14A “Citizens” never had any right to our highest offices. The “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution! This is made real clear in Article II!!! These people are acting like we only have one level of native citizenship, and only one level of birthright. This hasn’t been true since July 4, 1776, and especially not since citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788!
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@ If you were born of British parents in the 1800s, whether even in Canada or the U.S., you were still born completely subject to the jurisdiction of Great Britain and a British subject owing sole allegiance to Great Britain.
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VOX, pushing lies created in the 2000s. Lies that didn’t exist before the 2000s. Corruption that didn’t exist before the 2000s. Acting like we only have one level of native citizenship and one level of birthright, when we have two and with different levels of birthright. VOX, pushing lies created in the 2000s. They want you to believe Obama and Harris were legally in those offices!
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@ What is wrong with so many of you? The freed slaves were NOT IMMIGRANTS! The 14A had nothing to do with immigration! They were native born residents of the soil previously held in captivity and denied rights and citizenship. The 14A was specifically an amendment to grant native born residents citizenship as a “Citizen”, also known as and referred to as a “native born Citizen” in our history. Limited Birthright of Jus Soli through being born on the soil only. For them! No one else!
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@kennethkho7165 The 14A “Citizen” are the Citizen with no need of naturalization and limited birthright of Jus Soli only, also known as and referred to as the “native born Citizen” in our history. George Washington was one of these. It’s not the same as “natural born Citizen” with Constitutional birthright to our highest office today! VOX aren’t being honest with you. There are 2 different levels of native citizenship, each with different levels of birthright!
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@ VOX aren’t mentioning that we have two (2) different levels of native citizenship, with different levels of birthright, since July 4, 1776, that predate naturalization and the naturalized Citizen that came in 1790. We have three (3) levels of citizenship total, but since the 2000s you’ve all been being lead to believe there are only two (2), and only one (1) native level. Considering who own and operate VOX, I’m highly doubtful that any of them even had ancestors in this country during its formative years.
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George Washington was a “Citizen”. He was not a natural born Citizen. And the “Citizen” were only eligible to our highest offices, if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
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I have a copy of the decision. He was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. Did not meet the criteria. Of being born of citizen parents.
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Article II clearly states the “Citizen” were only eligible to be President, if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. 12A holds the VP to the same requirement. VOX aren’t being honest with you!
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@ VOX are not being honest. The “Citizen” are not eligible to be President or Vice President. VOX are pushing lies created in the 2000s. That nothing in our recorded history predating the 2000s, backs up at all!
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@ Hi there! I was born a British subject in Canada!!! I was in office in 1882!
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@ Only the act of naturalization is given inclusion within the U.S. Constitution. The other act has been prohibited from it since the Constitutional Convention in 1787.
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen” in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the 14A out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, were ONLY Granted being a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright of Jus Soli. None of them were granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship! None of them ever could have been President or Vice President!!
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen” in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the 14A out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, were ONLY Granted being a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright of Jus Soli. None of them were granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship! None of them ever could have been President or Vice President!!
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen”, never could have been President or Vice President. Making it impossible KH was born the level of citizenship eligible at all!
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@jacoblittle3209 The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners from its operations. The amendment was historically only for the freed slaves. Then in 1898 with the decision of Wong Kim Ark, the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the amendment were violated out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, to permit him to remain in the country and to be a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and limited birthright of Jus Soli only.
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@ Here all the details! At the time of the 14A, that was historically only for freed slaves, everyone else was still held to our preexisting requirements, laws regarding our two (2) levels of native citizenship, with different level of birthright! Keep these things in mind throughout all of this. At the time U.S. law was children were born the nationality of their father and subject to the jurisdiction of their father’s country. It did not matter if they were born in the U.S.A., they weren’t eligible for American citizenship at all just by being born here. At least the father had to be an American citizen for the child to be born an American citizen at all. Also women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Unmarried women were the nationality of their father, while married women were the nationality of their husband. These are the two levels of native citizenship and the requirements, criteria surrounding them at the time of the amendment! For everyone else except the freed slaves the 14A was for! The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright required being born of at least a citizen father, whether in the country, or abroad. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete birthright requires one being born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The United States of America is “the country”. The child must be born in specifically a state. This means the father must have been an American citizen and married to the mother, for both parents to be citizens. At the time! Then when women gained independent citizenship in 1922, it became both parents must be independent citizens!!
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@ The child is going to be subject to both the American mother’s and foreign fathers country’s laws, born with dual citizenship and owing a double allegiance. More details below! Taking into account that women have had independent citizenship since 1922, if the woman herself is a legal American citizen of any level, even if naturalized, by her being a citizen in itself, her child can be born an American “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and limited birthright, whether born in the U.S.A., or abroad. But if say the father is British, the child is also born a British citizen and owing allegiance to Great Britain as well. The child is born with dual American and British citizenship, and owing a double allegiance.
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@ Well if one person’s father was really Barack Obama of 1961 British Kenya and when the people of British Kenya were British citizens, then he would have been born a dual American and British citizen, owing a double allegiance. Our mainstream politico have left out that real big detail since he first ran for office. It was 1961 British Kenya, Barack Obama was a British citizen. And yes it is a very serious conflict of allegiance and interests!
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@ For starters, the amendment was in 1868, and just for a moment forget about the corruption that occurred with the decision of Wong Kim Ark in 1898, 30 years later. The amendment was only for the freed at the time. The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners. Everyone else besides the freed it was for, were still subject to our preexisting requirements, laws, to be born either of our two levels of native citizenship, with different levels of birthright. Keep this in mind. At the time women did not have independent citizenship. Women were either the nationality of their father, or if married, then they were the nationality of their husband. At the time children were born entirely the nationality of their father, even if born in the U.S.A.. The U.S.A. had no jurisdiction over children born of foreign fathers! The nationality of the father was everything at the time!!! The requirements, the laws in 1868! “Citizen” (native born Citizen), Limited Birthright: The child must be born of at least a citizen father, but can be born in the country, or abroad. “natural born Citizen”, Total and Complete Birthright: The child must be born in the country, of citizen parents. At the time this meant the father had to be an American citizen and married to the mother, making them both American citizens by attachment. This is known as Coverture. A legal doctrine that merged a married woman’a identity with her husband’s identity.
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@jacoblittle3209 The amendment wasn’t for anyone other than the freed in 1868. Corruption came decades later. It has nothing to do with anyone else. And the whole subject thing? At the time of the amendment children born in the U.S.A. were born entirely the nationality of their father. The father’s nationality was everything at the time. The U.S.A. had no jurisdiction over children born of foreign fathers.
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@jacoblittle3209 👆 Great example! Great Britain had total jurisdiction over children born of British citizen and subject fathers in the 1800s, no matter there they were born. If born in the U.S.A., or even Canada, the child was still born solely a British subject and within sole allegiance owed to Great Britain. I’m giving you the truth. It is VOX and this platform that are The Problem!
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People did not exist on that land before that Constitution? 😂
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According to VOX’s false claims, George Washington would be eligible to be President and Vice President today. Except this doesn’t add up! Why? Because the Constitution states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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According to VOX’s claims, George Washington would be eligible to be President and Vice President today. Except this doesn’t add up! Why? Because the Constitution states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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⁠Washington was a “Citizen” just the same as the 14A “Citizens”, also known as and referred to as the “native born Citizen” in our recorded history. But unlike George, the 14A “Citizens” never had any right to our highest offices. The “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution! This is made real clear in Article II!!! These people are acting like we only have one level of native citizenship, and only one level of birthright. This hasn’t been true since July 4, 1776, and especially not since citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788!
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According to VOX’s claims, George Washington would be eligible to be President and Vice President today. Except this doesn’t add up! Why? Because the Constitution states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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Article II clearly states the “Citizen” were only eligible to be President, if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. 12A holds the VP to the same requirement. VOX aren’t being honest with you!
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@ If you were born in 1961 British Kenya, you were born a British citizen, even if neither parent were British. All children born there were automatically British Protected Persons. Citizens of the U.K. and Colonies.
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Critical details VOX left out! Intentionally!!! At the time of the 14A, that was historically only for freed slaves, everyone else was still held to our preexisting requirements, laws regarding our two (2) levels of native citizenship, with different level of birthright! Keep these things in mind throughout all of this. At the time U.S. law was children were born the nationality of their father and subject to the jurisdiction of their father’s country. It did not matter if they were born in the U.S.A., they weren’t eligible for American citizenship at all just by being born here. At least the father had to be an American citizen for the child to be born an American citizen at all. Also women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Unmarried women were the nationality of their father, while married women were the nationality of their husband. These are the two levels of native citizenship and the requirements, criteria surrounding them at the time of the amendment! For everyone else except the freed slaves the 14A was for! The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright required being born of at least a citizen father, whether in the country, or abroad. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete birthright requires one being born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The United States of America is “the country”. The child must be born in specifically a state. This means the father must have been an American citizen and married to the mother, for both parents to be citizens. At the time! Then when women gained independent citizenship in 1922, it became both parents must be independent citizens!!
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The true laws of the Constitution, and the historical intent of the 14A, were violated out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, with the decision of Wong Kim Ark. However he was only granted being a “Citizen”, while he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen, because he did not meet the criteria.
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The true laws of the Constitution, and the historical intent of the 14A, were violated out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, with the decision of Wong Kim Ark. However he was only granted being a “Citizen”, while he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen, because he did not meet the criteria.
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Pay attention, these people are lying! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all of the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. They DO NOT have birthright to our highest offices today, at all!
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Pay attention, these people are lying! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all of the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. The “Citizen” DO NOT have birthright to our highest offices today, at all!
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I have a copy of the decision of Ark. It is very clear he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. Did not meet the criteria. Of being born of citizen parents.
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I have a copy of the decision of Ark. It is very clear he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. Did not meet the criteria. Of being born of citizen parents.
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It is impossible Kamala was born a natural born Citizen. The 14A “Citizen” is NOT a natural born Citizen!
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Example. George Washington was granted being a “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with no need of naturalization, because there was no naturalization policy until 1790, and Limited Birthright of “right of the soil” upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. And this was considered to retroactively date back to the founding of the nation in 1776, because despite his being born in the British colonies, he was a native born resident of the soil that later became part of the U.S.A., after the British colonies were dissolved. He was not an immigrant, he did not come from a foreign country to be a permanent resident in another. He was “native born Citizen”, which is what the “Citizen” with need of naturalization is also referred to and known as in our recorded history.Again, he was NOT an immigrant! The 14A “Citizens” were treated essentially the same way, because they were mostly native born residents of the soil and not immigrants, that were previously held in captivity and denied rights and citizenship. Not immigrants! Obama lied! Get over it!!!
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Example. George Washington was granted being a “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with no need of naturalization, because there was no naturalization policy until 1790, and Limited Birthright of “right of the soil” upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. And this was considered to retroactively date back to the founding of the nation in 1776, because despite his being born in the British colonies, he was a native born resident of the soil that later became part of the U.S.A., after the British colonies were dissolved. He was not an immigrant, he did not come from a foreign country to be a permanent resident in another. He was “native born Citizen”, which is what the “Citizen” with need of naturalization is also referred to and known as in our recorded history.Again, he was NOT an immigrant! The 14A “Citizens” were treated essentially the same way, because they were mostly native born residents of the soil and not immigrants, that were previously held in captivity and denied rights and citizenship. Not immigrants! Obama lied! Get over it!!!
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I’m a 50 year old 9th generation American natural born Citizen through my paternal side. Ancestors of mine were amongst the earliest “Citizens” and “natural born Citizens” of the nation. These are two different levels of native citizenship. We have two levels of native citizenship, with different levels of birthright. To make a long story short, the “Citizen” and the “natural born Citizen” are not the same thing, and neither of us are the “naturalized Citizen” that came with naturalization beginning in 1790. There are three levels of American citizenship. Only two of the three are native. The “Citizen” do not have birthright to some things us “natural born Citizens” do!!!
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The 14A “Citizen” is not a natural born Citizen. It is absolutely impossible KDH was born one!!!
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen”, never could have been President or Vice President. This is not a natural born Citizen. Making it impossible KH was born the level of citizenship eligible at all!
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen”, never could have been President or Vice President. This is not a natural born Citizen. Making it impossible KH was born the level of citizenship eligible at all!
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It is impossible Kamala was born a natural born Citizen. The 14A “Citizen” is NOT a natural born Citizen!
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@NWstockoperator I have a copy of the 1898 decision. It is very clear he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. The 14A “Citizen” is not one. He did not meet the other criteria. Of being born of citizen parents. Which has been law since the founding of the nation. Although retroactively upon adoption of the Constitution. I would know. Ancestors of mine were amongst the earliest Citizens and natural born Citizens of the nation. Pre-1790 naturalization.
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@NWstockoperator Unlike anyone at V, I’m sure, I am a 50 year old 9th generation American natural born Citizen, descended from Patriots of the American Revolution. Ancestors were amongst the earliest Citizens and natural born Citizens of the nation, a while before naturalization began in 1790. Citizenship did not begin with naturalization in 1790. Citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788 and was retroactively dated back to the founding of the nation. George Washington was granted being a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization. But one such as Martin Van Buren at that time, who had been born in the country, of citizen parents, was considered to be a natural born Citizen since birth. They are not the same level of citizenship.
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@NWstockoperator In 2009 in Ankeny v. Governor, the false claim was created that the 1898 decision resulted in his being granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship, and the false claim was created that this was reaffirming preexisting law that any child born within our borders are natural born Citizen, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. McCain and Obama were directly involved, and I find it rather suspicious that Harris and Newsom were DA and Mayor of San Francisco in 2009, where the 1898 decision historically occurred.
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@ Ankeny v. Governor (2009) could not have reaffirmed that any child born within our borders are a natural born Citizen, regardless of the citizenship of the parents. Because the 1898 decision did not grant him being any more than a “Citizen” with no needs of naturalization and limited birthright through Jus Soli.
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@ Ankeny v. Governor. McCain and Obama were directly involved. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Harris and Newsom were DA and Mayor of San Francisco in 2009, where the 1898 decision historically occurred.
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@NWstockoperator To make a long story short, Ankeny v. Governor (2009) created a lie about Wong Kim Ark (1898). Anyway, I left a few comments, as I’m receiving much interference these days.
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@ I do have a copy of the 1898 court decision. My information comes from the most reliable source. It is the same record I read during grade school in the 1980s. In the Ohio state Board of Education’s criteria!
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@ I’ll give you an example. If I simply remove the 1898 decision, that was in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the 14A to begin with, this is what we get today and after all other changes in our laws since. The “Citizen” with Limited Birthright through Jus Soli, also known as the “native born Citizen”, must be born of at least one citizen, but can be born in the country, or abroad. Today this can be the mother, or the father, if not both, and they can be a Citizen, natural born Citizen, or naturalized Citizen. The Article II “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright of Jus Soli, and Jus Sanguinis, that can only be inherited by being born of parents who are, must be born in the country, the country being the states, and of parents who are citizens. They can be a Citizen, natural born Citizen, or naturalized Citizen, just so long as both are citizens. The naturalized Citizen is obviously someone who is naturalized as an American naturalized Citizen.
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@ The framers of the Constitution took the “natural-born” Citizen from Emmerich de Vattel’s “The Law of Nations” (1758). Natural law. We are defined as a child born in the country of parents who are citizens. The Law of Nations is mentioned in the Constitution. Why born of parents who are citizens? So that we are born within sole allegiance to the People and our nation of the U.S.A. in the process, have no ties to any foreign nations and are free of any foreign influence.
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@ Vattel’s Law of Nations is mentioned in the Constitution! They used Jus Soli based on English common law for the “Citizen”. They used Vattel’s natural law of The Law of Nations for the “natural-born” Citizen.
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@ More important details. Most of the earliest “Citizens” or “native born Citizens”, including ancestors of mine, were born in the later dissolved British colonies that became part of the U.S.A. and considered themselves to be born British subjects. They were native born residents of the soil. Not immigrants. They did not come from a foreign country to be permanent residents in another. Now think of this in comparison to the 14A “Citizens”. They were mostly native born residents of the soil, previously held in captivity and denied rights and citizenship. Not immigrants. Then Benny in 1898. A native born resident of the soil, denied rights and being a citizen until the decision. A “native born Citizen”, aka “Citizen”.
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@ It’s really this easy! The “Citizen” in the 14A is the same level as the “Citizen” in Article II. And this is not the same as the “natural born Citizen” in Article II. Meaning no the 14A “Citizen” is not the Article II “natural born Citizen”.
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@ The Civil Rights Act of 1866, the full history of the 14A, the Slaughter-House Cases, Minor v. Happersett, Elk v. Wilkins. All of this is very important to understanding the big picture of what really occurred with the 1898 decision. Now what happened, is in 2009 in Ankeny v. Governor, that McCain and Obama were directly involved in, the lie was created that Benny was granted being a natural born Citizen! Yes this actually happened in 2009. Over a century after the decision. I’m sure they thought no one would notice!!! 👀
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@ This is a part of my heritage. I am a 9th generation natural born Citizen. A Son of the American Revolution. Ancestors were amongst the earliest “Citizens” and “natural born Citizens” of the nation and pre-1790 naturalization. Upon adoption of the Constitution, all who were born in the country since July 4, 1776, of people considered to be “Citizens” since July 4, 1776, were considered to be a natural born Citizen. Born in the country, of citizen parents. It is important to note that women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. At the time, unmarried women were the nationality of their father. While married women took on the identity of their husband through coverture. So it required the father and mother being married, for both to be considered citizens , making the child born of citizen parents and a natural born Citizen. This is all before naturalization began in 1790! One such as James C. Calhoun was, as well as Martin Van Buren. Calhoun was the first to be a Vice President. Van Buren was the first to be a President. While everyone else from William Henry Harrison and back to Washington, were only granted being a “Citizen”, also known as the “native born Citizen”.
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@ By the way, I learned all this grade school in the 1980s. For free! Thanks to the Ohio state Board of Education. And yet there’s Harvard “scholars” who have a horrible understanding of how things went down from July 4, 1776 and up to that decision in 1899. Or maybe they’re just lying! 🙄
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Trump isn’t trying to fix anything. His bunch are just trying to change the lie to make the claim any child born of legal permanent residents, including green card recipients, are born a “natural born Citizen” eligible to be President and Vice President, because 4 of his kids aren’t natural born Citizens and aren’t eligible. Meanwhile people like so-called “Obama” and “Harris”, and many others, are getting away with what are massive crimes against the American people and the country.
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You need to know what occurred from the time of the 14A in 1868 and up to that British guy in my profile pic stole the office of President by force in 1881. American blacks were on the path to better things, then Great Britain overthrew the U.S.A. in 1881, and threw a wrench in the whole works in favor of foreign opportunists stealing the country. I’m sure the people at VOX are descendants of those who stole the country!
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You need to know what occurred from the time of the 14A in 1868 and up to that British guy in my profile pic stole the office of President by force in 1881. American blacks were on the path to better things, then Great Britain overthrew the U.S.A. in 1881, and threw a wrench in the whole works in favor of foreign opportunists stealing the country.
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By the time of the 14A it was the 40th Congress, and no there was nothing about America being exclusively for white men. Times changed! So many lies circulate today that most have no idea what true American history is, and VOX definitely aren’t truth speakers.
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Warner Bros. Discovery own 25% of VOX. Trusting these people is a real bad idea!!!
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@jatsko3113 Lots of my comments have been made invisible to the general public here! But they’re still visible to me.
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@jatsko3113 Details! At the time of the 14A, that was historically only for freed slaves, everyone else was still held to our preexisting requirements, laws regarding our two (2) levels of native citizenship, with different level of birthright! Keep these things in mind throughout all of this. At the time U.S. law was children were born the nationality of their father and subject to the jurisdiction of their father’s country. It did not matter if they were born in the U.S.A., they weren’t eligible for American citizenship at all just by being born here, at the time of, or after the amendment. At least the father had to be an American citizen for the child to be born an American citizen at all. Also women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Unmarried women were the nationality of their father, while married women were the nationality of their husband. These are the two levels of native citizenship and the requirements, criteria surrounding them at the time of the amendment! For everyone else except the freed slaves the 14A was for! The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright required being born of at least a citizen father, whether in the country, or abroad. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete birthright requires one being born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The United States of America is “the country”. The child must be born in specifically a state. This means the father must have been an American citizen and married to the mother, for both parents to be citizens. At the time! Then when women gained independent citizenship in 1922, it became both parents must be independent citizens!! Now why are these critical details? It’s because the U.S. Constitution requires one are a “natural born Citizen” to be President and Vice President! While VOX are lying that we only have one level of native citizenship and birthright!!!
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@jatsko3113 I gave you two replies! One was deleted!!! About two dozen of my comments aren’t being seen by anyone! What, do you seriously think V here are being honest with you? Because they’re not!
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@jatsko3113 The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington was! Which is absolutely not a natural born Citizen!!! And yet we have V here implying there is only one level of native citizenship, and one level of birthright!?
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@jatsko3113 The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington was. The “Citizen” is also referred to as, and known as, the “native born Citizen” in our history!!!
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@jatsko3113 ⁠The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington was. The “Citizen” is also referred to as, and known as, the “native born Citizen” in our history!!!
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@jatsko3113 I really doubt anyone at VOX are a 50 year old 9th generation American natural born Citizen. Ancestors of mine were amongst the earliest “Citizens” and “natural born Citizens” of the nation, pre-1790 naturalization. Granted such upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788, retroactively dating back to the founding of the nation on July 4, 1776. Before naturalization began in 1790!!!
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@jatsko3113 5 new replies to you. I’m sure you can’t see them!
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This is bigger and more dangerous than you know. Since 2009, any child born within our our borders of anyone, have been being fraudulently treated as a natural born Citizen eligible to our highest offices. Even retroactively with one such as the now former VP.
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen” in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the 14A out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, were ONLY Granted being a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright of Jus Soli. None of them were granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship! None of them ever could have been President or Vice President!!
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It is impossible Kamala was born a natural born Citizen. The 14A “Citizen” is NOT a natural born Citizen!
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It is impossible Kamala was born a natural born Citizen. The 14A “Citizen” is NOT a natural born Citizen!
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This is bigger and more dangerous than you know. Since 2009, any child born within our our borders of anyone, have been being fraudulently treated as a natural born Citizen eligible to our highest offices. Even retroactively with one such as the now former VP.
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@ You have what the amendment was historically for and what it actually did, mixed up with what corruption of it caused by the fraudulent 1898 decision opened the door to. No the amendment did not mean anyone born in the country could be a “Citizen”. It was only for the freed slaves. Children born of foreigners were excluded from its operations, it was only for the freed slaves, no one else. Then it was corrupted by the 1898 decision. The true laws of the Constitution, and the historical intent of the amendment were violated out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, rather than throw Wong Kim Ark out. Which would have upheld our true laws.
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@ The historical records of its legislation are very clear as to what was meant by it too, and I’m absolutely positive you’ve never studied the full history surrounding it, because you’re assuming it did something that only corruption of it 30 years later opened the door to. It means what its authors are on record as having stated it means. Of course VOX’s spin on it is nothing supported by what’s within the actual historical records.
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@ The 14A was in 1868. The fraudulent decision of Wong Kim Ark was in 1898. The Supreme Court of California completely ignored that children of foreigners are excluded from the operations of the 14A.
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Article II clearly states the “Citizen” were only eligible to be President, if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. 12A holds the VP to the same requirement. VOX aren’t being honest with you!
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According to VOX’s claims, George Washington would be eligible to be President and Vice President today. Except this doesn’t add up! Why? Because the Constitution states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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@ I’m not sure if you should be trusting the man. Whatever happened to him exposing people with issues related to this subject, like JM, BO, TC, MR, KH, NH, TG. And why has he never said a word about VR.
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@kennethkho7165 A fraudulent decision was made in late 2009. People by the initial of JM and BO were directly involved. The case title is unmentionable here without facing auto-deletion.
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@ Look into the Natural-born Citizen Act of 2004. Things have been severely corrupted this past 20 years. They got much worse in 2008! These people were not born what they claim!!!
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@ VOX are implying we only have one level of native citizenship and birthright. This isn’t true since the founding of the nation on July 4, 1776. In all technicalities citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788, and pre-1790 naturalization, but it was considered to retroactively date back to July 4, 1776. The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright, and the “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright.
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@ It is not a coincidence that controversy has surrounded McCain, Obama and Harris’ certificates. And no one ever saw one with John at all! I’m trying to tell you, bad stuff went down in the 2000s!
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@ He never had one because children born in Panama could only be a “Citizen”, even if born of two citizens. This is NOT a natural born Citizen!
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@ Nothing actually legal and valid since 1795 has ever changed that the requirements to be born a natural born Citizen, are the child must be born in the United States of America, the country, which are only the States, and of parents who are citizens. NOTHING actually legal and valid has changed this since 1795! And it was only allowed from 1790-1795 that they could be born abroad, if born of citizen parents.
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@ There would have to be a Constitutional amendment which allows for “Citizens” to be eligible to our highest offices, or for anyone born in the country to be a “natural born Citizen”. This is out of the Supreme Court’s hands and in the hands of Congress, who obviously have made no amendment of any kind.
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@ A child born of only one citizen in the country, or abroad of at least one citizen, can only be a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and limited birthright of Jus Soli. The natural born Citizen must be born in the country, the country being specifically a state, of parents who are citizens. The 14A did not alter these requirements for everyone else! It was for the freed slaves!!!
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VOX are lying! The Citizen DO NOT have birthright to our highest offices. The Citizen were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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VOX are lying! The Citizen DO NOT have birthright to our highest offices. The Citizen were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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@minutemansam3122 The Citizens is not a natural born Citizen. The Citizens DO NOT have birthright to our highest offices. The Citizen WERE only eligible if one at the adoption of the Constitution. This IS IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!
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@kennethkho7165 George Washington was a “Citizen”. He wouldn’t be eligible to be President today. He wasn’t a natural born Citizen!
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@ VOX are not being honest with you. They are ignoring that we have two different levels of native citizenship, with different levels of birthright. They are pushing lies created in the 2000s.
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@ The 14A “Citizens” and Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen” never could have been President and Vice President. Very important and critical details regarding American birthright citizenship are being left out here.
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Two things you need to know. 1. The “Citizen” is the same thing as the “native born Citizen” with Limited Birthright, since July 4, 1776. This is not the “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright, since July 4, 1776. Neither of these are the “naturalized Citizen” that came when naturalization began in 1790. 2. The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 declared indigenous persons born within the U.S. are “Citizens”. Also this is all ridiculous today, as most Native Americans today are also descendants of European ancestors, tens of millions of other Americans are descendants of the early indigenous inhabitants, only roughly 1.3 million full-blooded exist today, and even then only 90% is required to be considered full-blooded.
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No amendment necessary. The true laws of the Constitution just need upheld. The 1898 decision needs treated like what it was and still is. Fraudulent!
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The “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright of Jus Soli, is not the same level as a natural born Citizen and never has been. They have no right to be Vice President and President!!!
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Benny was denied being granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship because the 14A “Citizen” and his not being born of citizen parents, were determined insufficient to treat him as one. The 14A “Citizen” is not the same level of citizenship as the Article II “natural born Citizen” and never has been in the U.S.A.. And I’m sure VOX will either have this deleted, or hidden because it is the truth.
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VOX are not mentioning that the 14A “Citizen” are not a natural born Citizen. This is a critical detail!
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@ I didn’t see a huge problem with it until the late 2000s and corruption that has lead to them fraudulently being treated as natural born Citizens eligible to our highest offices. And with this came the lie being created that those like Harris were born something they were not, and are something they are not.
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@ Because of lies and corruption that occurred in the late 2000s, now even Xi Jinping could have a child here who is groomed to be President one day. Not legally, but all the liars in our federal government can’t argue with the lie they created in the 2000s, without exposing that they’ve been lying about a whole lot for 33 years now!
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The historical record of the actual decision clearly shows he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen, because he did not meet the criteria. I have a copy.
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The historical record of the actual decision clearly shows he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen, because he did not meet the criteria. I have a copy.
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The Wong Kim Ark decision was made in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and the historical intent of the 14A. It was never legal to begin with. VOX are not being honest with you.
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The Wong Kim Ark decision was made in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and the historical intent of the 14A. It was never legal to begin with. VOX are not being honest with you.
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The decision of Wong Kim Ark clearly shows he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen, because he did not meet the criteria.
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The 14A “Citizens” and decades later Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen” in violation of the Constitution’s true laws and historical intent of the 14A out of claimed “humanitarian” reasons, were ONLY Granted being a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright of Jus Soli. None of them were granted the natural born Citizen level of citizenship! None of them ever could have been President or Vice President!!
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Neither the 14A “Citizens”, or Wong Kim Ark the “Citizen”, were natural born Citizens. They did not have any birthright, Constitutional right, to our highest offices, that only the natural born do today and for a very long time now.
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⁠The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners from its operations. Things were corrupted with Wong Kim Ark in 1898, of which the decision was never legal to begin with. Now if you ignore the fraudulent 1898 decision of Wong Kim Ark, you get this today! The “Citizen” (native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright can either be born in the country, or abroad, of at least one citizen required. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright, must be born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Both! Then this! The original U.S. Constitution and 12A require one are a natural born Citizen to be eligible for the offices of President and Vice President.
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Birthright citizenship is old as the U.S.A. is. American citizenship began with the adoption of the Constitution in 1788, and was deemed to retroactively date back to the founding of the nation on July 4, 1776. This is all before naturalization began in 1790.
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⁠The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners from its operations. Things were corrupted with Wong Kim Ark in 1898, of which the decision was never legal to begin with. Now if you ignore the fraudulent 1898 decision of Wong Kim Ark, you get this today! The “Citizen” (native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright can either be born in the country, or abroad, of at least one citizen required. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright, must be born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Both! Then this! The original U.S. Constitution and 12A require one are a natural born Citizen to be eligible for the offices of President and Vice President.
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Seriously, get our of your own heads and read this! Sorry, but learn something real for once!!! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. Then what’s below is extremely important, because you are being lied to! Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in part states: “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,” 12A holds the VP to the same requirement! The Citizen do not have birthright to our highest offices! Not for a very, very long time now!!!
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Seriously, get our of your own heads and read this! Sorry, but learn something real for once!!! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. Then what’s below is extremely important, because you are being lied to! Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in part states: “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,” 12A holds the VP to the same requirement! The Citizen do not have birthright to our highest offices! Not for a very, very long time now!!!
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@StepsOfStPhilips Seriously, get our of your own heads and read this! Sorry, but learn something real for once!!! The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington and all the earliest “Citizens” of the nation, who were not born of citizens, were granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. Then what’s below is extremely important, because you are being lied to! Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in part states: “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,” 12A holds the VP to the same requirement! The Citizen do not have birthright to our highest offices! Not for a very, very long time now!!!
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@StepsOfStPhilips A Citizen do NOT have birthright to our highest offices, at all! The last one who did was William Henry Harrison, in 1841!!!
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George Washington wouldn’t be eligible to be President and Vice President today, and the 14A “Citizens” never were! VOX aren’t mentioning that we have two different levels of native citizenship, each with different levels of birthright. Since July 4, 1776!
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Article II clearly states the “Citizen” were only eligible to be President, if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. 12A holds the VP to the same requirement. VOX aren’t being honest with you!
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@5280BLM Ignore the 1898 decision of Wong Kim Ark and you get this today! The “Citizen” (native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright can either be born in the country, or abroad, of at least one citizen required. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright, must be born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Both!
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@ Article II of the original Constitution and the 12A makes it clear that the “Citizen” have no right to be President and Vice President today. But VOX are leading you to believe they do.
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14A 👉 “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners from its operations. Even if in the country legally. This was all corrupted in the 1898 decision made by the Supreme Court of California. That was and still is fraudulent!
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It doesn’t make one a “Citizen” even if the parents are legally in the country. That’s not what the 14th Amendment did at all! And the 1898 decision was never legal to begin with. So guess what? Read the first sentence again!
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It doesn’t make one a “Citizen” even if the parents are legally in the country. That’s not what the 14th Amendment did at all! And the 1898 decision was never legal to begin with. So guess what? Read the first sentence again!
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Children of foreigners in general, are excluded from the operations of the 14A. VOX and this platform are suppressing much absolutely verifiable information. Without quotation marks, the phrase subject to its jurisdiction excludes children born of foreigners from the 14A. Why? Because it was only for the freed slaves!
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The 14A “Citizen” is the same level of citizenship that George Washington was granted upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788. This level no longer have birthright to our highest offices, according to, the original U.S. Constitution and 12A. William Henry Harrison was the last “Citizen” to legitimately occupy those offices. In 1841!
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@dantechang8556 George Washington was a “Citizen”. Do you think he would be eligible to be President today? Have you ever actually read the Constitution and learned to understand it?
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I have a copy of the decision of Ark. It is very clear he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. Did not meet the criteria. Of being born of citizen parents.
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I have a copy of the decision of Ark. It is very clear he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen. Did not meet the criteria. Of being born of citizen parents.
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@dantechang8556 From July 4, 1776 and until after the 1898 decision, no one was granted citizenship as a “Citizen” with no need of naturalization and Limited Birthright through Jus Soli, EXCEPT for on three (3) special occasions. The earliest “Citizens” of the nation upon adoption of the Constitution in 1788 and pre-1790 naturalization, mostly native born residents of the soil, who were not born of citizen parents. The 14A “Citizens”, mostly native born residents of the soil, who were not born of citizen parents. The individual involved in the 1898 decision, a native born resident of the soil, who was not born of citizen parents. Yes George Washington was the same level of citizenship as the 14A “Citizen”, and the “Citizen” the individual involved in the 1898 decision was. Let’s stop playing games here!!!
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@dantechang8556 Strictly Jus Soli is Limited Birthright. This is not Total and Complete Birthright through both Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis that only the natural born Citizen are born with. Benny obviously did not inherit Jus Sanguinis! Not through two Chinese citizens he didn’t! He was no more a natural born Citizen than George Washington was. Not at all!!!
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@dantechang8556 I’ve left 6 comments and only 4 total are showing on the entire thread. How convenient!
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According to VOX’s false claims, George Washington would be eligible to be President and Vice President today. Except this doesn’t add up! Why? Because the Constitution states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution!!!
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@DMurdock The act has been prohibited from the Constitution since the convention in 1787. Only the act of naturalization was given inclusion within the Constitution. Our constitutional naturalization policy was replaced by unconstitutional immigration policy in 1882, under the mustache man in my profile pic. Today most citizens are under the impression that immigration is constitutional, and that foreigners have some right to come here to live and be permanent residents, and everything else here. Yet this has never been true!
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The 14A “Citizen” and the Article II “natural born Citizen” are not the same thing. They were never eligible to be in our highest offices.
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@ 👆 I know everything about so-called Obama!
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@ Only 3 people in both offices since William Henry Harrison in 1841, were not born of American citizens. 2 weren’t born of an American citizen at all. The 1st of these 3 was born British in Canada!
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@ There was a fraudulent decision made in late 2009. VOX aren’t mentioning this!
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Fraudulent decision made in late 2009. VOX aren’t mentioning it.
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@Themias7 Article II clearly states the “Citizen” were only eligible if one at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. That was in 1788.
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Women didn’t have independent citizenship in the U.S.A. until 1922. At the time of the 14A, unmarried women were the nationality of their father, married women were the nationality of their husband through the legal doctrine of coverture. So if the father and mother were married, both parents of the child were considered citizens.
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This was law in 18th and 19th Century America. Women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Regardless of whether only the father was a citizen, or if both parents were citizens by marriage, the child was born the nationality of their father. Keep in mind here that the earliest “Citizens” of the nation since July 4, 1776, the 14A “Citizens”, and the individual granted being a “Citizen” in 1898, were retroactively granted citizenship some time after their births. These people were not born citizens at the time of their births.
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The 14A “Citizen” is not a natural born Citizen. It is absolutely impossible KDH was born one!!!
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⁠The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners from its operations. Things were corrupted with Wong Kim Ark in 1898, of which the decision was never legal to begin with. Now if you ignore the fraudulent 1898 decision of Wong Kim Ark, you get this today! The “Citizen” (native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright can either be born in the country, or abroad, of at least one citizen required. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete Birthright, must be born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Both! Then this! The original U.S. Constitution and 12A require one are a natural born Citizen to be eligible for the offices of President and Vice President.
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Here’s all the details that aren’t being mentioned here! At the time of the 14A, that was historically only for freed slaves, everyone else was still held to our preexisting requirements, laws regarding our two (2) levels of native citizenship, with different levels of birthright! Keep these things in mind throughout all of this. At the time U.S. law was children were born the nationality of their father and subject to the jurisdiction of their father’s country. It did not matter if they were born in the U.S.A., they weren’t eligible for American citizenship at all just by being born here. At least the father had to be an American citizen for the child to be born an American citizen at all. Also women did not have independent citizenship until 1922. Unmarried women were the nationality of their father, while married women were the nationality of their husband. These are the two levels of native citizenship and the requirements, criteria surrounding them at the time of the amendment! For everyone else except the freed slaves the 14A was for! The “Citizen” (aka native born Citizen) with Limited Birthright required being born of at least a citizen father, whether in the country, or abroad. The “natural born Citizen” with Total and Complete birthright requires one being born in the country, of parents who are citizens. The United States of America is “the country”. The child must be born in specifically a state. This means the father must have been an American citizen and married to the mother, for both parents to be citizens. At the time! Then when women gained independent citizenship in 1922, it became both parents must be independent citizens!!
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Then there’s of us who are descended from first-born sons of the nation, indentured servants, enslaved whites in the British colonies and early America, and Native Americans. I know I’m not alone in this. And oh well, it’s not a good excuse for others to do the same to us. If it hadn’t have been Europeans, it would have been someone else sooner, or later. Like all the annoying pests from Asian nations today, who try and use the past here as an excuse to do the same to us.
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The 14A was never intended to give citizenship to anyone except the freed it was for. It wasn’t for children born of foreigners at all, even if the parents were legally in the country. The phrase “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes from its operations, children born of foreigners.
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“subject to its jurisdiction” excludes children born of foreigners!
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You are correct. The historical intent of the 14A was corrupted by the decision in 1898.
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Ankeny v Governor is fraudulent!
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Makes it easier to overthrow and steal the country from its true born rightful people too. Which already happened and VOX are complicit in the coverup of what all went down in the 2000s.
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The 14A. The inclusion of “subject to its jurisdiction” excludes from its operations children born of foreigners.
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It’s also in the decision of Ark that he was denied being treated as a natural born Citizen because he didn’t meet the criteria of being born of citizen parents.
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Most people? Most American citizens are legal native citizens born in the country of one, or two citizens, and most do not support this. Especially not the multi-generational native citizens who know our real history, which V aren’t giving you. The largest majority are natural born Citizens born in the country of two.
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Most people? Most American citizens are legal native citizens born in the country of one, or two citizens, and most do not support this. Especially not the multi-generational native citizens who know our real history, which V aren’t giving you. The largest majority are natural born Citizens born in the country of two.
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It is absolutely impossible that KDH was born the level of citizenship eligible! As well as many others!!!
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