Comments by "Horizon" (@Horizon344) on "MSNBC Fires Sam Seder, Caves In To Weird Mike Cernovich" video.

  1. 6 minutes , & barely a word of self-defence in it from Seder to deny a charge of loathsome behavior. This wasn't convincing at all.
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  2. Where has Seder explained it away, .... coz he didn't do it here?
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  3. @ST - Where's the evidence from Seder it's not, he didn't give it here, & had 6 long minutes to do so?
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  4. @ST - I have buttmunch, what's the title of the upload yr referring to, ... or are you a liar & it doesn't exist?
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  5. ST - You mean you haven't got it to direct me to?
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  6. @ST (AKA Buttmunch) - The 2009 tweet that I've seen from Seder looks, on the surface, from what I've seen of it, as if he was making a catastrophically misjudged (& that's me being charitable to Seder, as the alternative doesn't bear thinking about) joke out of child rape to try to excuse Polanski's actions, as a part of the Hollywood set that defends him because they think he's a cool art-house movie director, & they value that above the allegations he fled from.
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  7. @MMFD - Thx, I saw it, but it's not very convincing. SS lists 3 more tweets he made on the subject, the 1 offering (very mild) criticism of Polanski's actions was in 2013 - 3 years after the 2009 post, the other one 2 years later in 2013 merely corrected someone on a factual point they made in Polanski's favour, & another 1 on the subject in 2009 itself is ambiguous; & then there's the issue of deleting things to try to conceal them. If SS was being satirical & attacking Polanski's supporters in the Hollywood set for their moral values on this issue, & going to the extremity of involving his daughter as a means of doing it, I would have expected him to be sufficiently psychologically agitated that there would have been several tweets around the post in question in 2009, with him also overtly attacking Polanski's excusers in the online back & forth that was ongoing then about it, but such material isn't there & SS concedes that it never existed, all there is is this strange post in isolation.
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  8. That is not an answer to the point, numbnutz.
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  9. @AS - Thx for the link
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  10. @A.S. - Yes, you identify the strongest point in Seder's thin armoury here, the 'hold him accountable for raping 13 year old' bit does imply satire & condemnation of Polanski's excusers' moral sense. He should have been more explicit in straight language as well though, & he wouldn't have got himself into such a mess.
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  11. @A.S - I disagree, there is unfortunate ambiguity in the original post that caused the problem, which was misjudged by Seder at the very least, & using his own daughter as a means to deliver satire about rape is badly misjudged & highly unusual.
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