Comments by "Alan Friesen" (@alanfriesen9837) on "" video.

@starshipdriver8536 Nobody in power wants to give it up, but I think you are wrong. I believe very strongly that most Chinese, including most party members, care very much about the welfare, prosperity, protection, and reputation of the Chinese people. I certainly think they care as much for the Chinese people as any western political party cares for it's constituents. They certainly are doing a better job of taking care of their people than any other political party on the planet right now.
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@starshipdriver8536 No, the CCP is absolutely Chinese. It's made up of Chinese people, and at least at this time, it works for for China and for the betterment of the Chinese people.
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@starshipdriver8536 You know what? Neither one of us is going to change the other's mind. You believe who you believe, and I am very skeptical of a "free media" that always portrays China in its worst light. Your satellite images prove that there are buildings with walls around them, something the Chinese government freely admits to. I've already discussed the nature of these interviews. They may be truthful or they may not be. There is no way to tell for certain. There have certainly been instances of inconsistency, and financial incentive. I don't know what's happening in Xinjiang, and neither do you. You want to assume the worst, that's your prerogative. I'll wait for more reliable evidence.
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@starshipdriver8536 I've been to rural China, but I admittedly didn't spend enough time to make a detailed analysis, and of course it was only two locations in a vast country. What I saw didn't look much like poverty. It was rustic, but the people looked healthy, buildings looked fairly modern and well-built and amenities and products appeared to be plentiful and affordable. I'm sure there were poorer areas. There are poorer-appearing areas here in the United States. The "Uighur camps that the world recognizes as genocide." are definitely a concern, but they are also a bit of a mystery. China claims that they are not genocidal camps, and China's enemies claim that they are. Nothing China says or does is going to disprove all of these claims. Evidence to debunk them is characterized as staged tours and coerced testimony. And that may be exactly what it is, but there is no way to know. It's all a matter of who you trust. I think your characterization of world-recognized genocide is either uninformed or western-chauvinist. The world does not recognize it as genocide; the western world recognizes it as genocide, based on the testimony of self-exiled Uighur separatists and a German millennialist with a history of aggression towards China. What can be said for certain is that the Uighur community is closely watched for separatist tendencies and that their movements are not as free as that of other Chinese. This is a discrimination that I believe is real and that I don't approve of. I do hope that China walks back that discrimination sooner rather than later. Honestly I don't think that's going to happen though, anymore than I think that our racist immigration policies will be scaled back here in America.
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@MrYjgh Proven is a strong word. I'm not sure their fakeness, if it is indeed fake, is provable. I am aware of some inconsistencies and of some other evidence for the false nature of some of these claims (things like missing relatives turning out to be living normal lives, purportedly destroyed graves turning out to be relocated and upgraded reinternments and such). While I think this is strong evidence for the falsity of some claims, it cannot be proven that the counter-testimonies are not staged and coerced. If you don't believe China and the people living in China, than the evidence will always seem insufficient.
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@MrYjgh This is the first time I've seen someone suggest that Xinjiang has 80% of China's sterilization operations, if that is indeed what you are saying has been suggested. I know the World Uighur Congress gets funding from the National Endowment for Democracy which is an NGO that promotes dissidence in non-democratic countries. Because of this, claims made by the World Uighur Congress, their supporters, and their beneficiaries are dubious, but that doesn't make them false. Inconsistencies in testimony are normal for all people, liars and truth-tellers alike. Multiple accounts add credence to the accusations, but the same is true of the refutations. We know that the separatists are telling us that gross human rights abuses are taking place and that the Chinese authorities are telling us that systematic abuse is not occurring. We know that both sides have reasons beyond mere truth for taking those positions. What we don't know is who is telling the truth and who is lying. My own feeling is that these accusations are extreme and should therefore require extremely strong evidence to be believed. I have not seen such evidence at this point.
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