Comments by "Alan Friesen" (@alanfriesen9837) on "What America gets wrong about China and the rest of Asia | David Kang | Big Think" video.

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  6. "Given their history of behavior, I think it is very likely that they will try to do force their imperialistic will onto everyone if they ever become the global power like US. It really could be the future of humanity that we will all be watched and scored based on what we buy on Amazon using our cellphones. People criticize US for meddling in foreign affairs, but believe me, US is by far the best gentleman world has ever seen. Nowhere in world history I've ever seen a world dominating power constraining itself this well." As an American I'm touched, I never realized I was so awesome. Judging the behavior of China in the future based on their past is highly suspect because in many ways modern China is very different from imperial China. Judging the behavior of China in the future based on humanity's past is probably a better bet. Powerful countries exert power based on their perceptions of their interests. That's the case with the United States today, as it was with Britain before us and Spain before them. Our greatest propaganda points during the Cold War centered on our personal freedoms versus those of Soviet citizens. But in America today, if the police ask to see your papers, you'd better produce something. And while it's nice to see that MagicSteel1 appreciates the magnanimity of American imperialism, I'm not sure our Latin American neighbors would agree. MagicSteel1's concerns are legitimate. However, his aggressive approach is unfair. China is many things, some good and some bad and while unlike the United States they have a few territorial issues outstanding and their government is more hands-on in the lives of its citizens, she's probably no more threatening than any other state of similar strength and influence.
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  8. Most of what Magicsteel1 says has some basis in fact. A lot of it is expressed from a Sinophobic angle though. Point for point: "China has track record of constantly oppressing and robbing South Asian countries until European countries(+Japan) came and kicked their asses." Assuming that he means Southeast Asian countries - China never had the political or military capacity to dominate South Asian countries - China has a complex history with her neighbors that varied from time period to time period and from region to region. By and large her relationships were in some ways beneficial and some ways detrimental. China has always been the culturally dominant entity in the region and during its periods of strength has taken a patriarchal approach which some found oppressive but it also provided peace and stability in the region which provided it's own forms of freedom and it often did so at its own cost, a noticeable example would be the protection of Korea from the invasions of Hideyoshi in the 1500s. "Their world view has not really changed in recent history; that they are center of world, or they should be, and the 'Central Country' cannot recede by an inch. Almost all neighboring countries have been attacked and subdued by China at some point and ended up paying tribute including humans." Their worldview has changed a great deal since the time of the Qianlong Emperor. Chinese today are well aware of the rest of the world and most are sober enough to understand that the United States is the dominant state in today's world and that that will continue to be the case for many decades to come. Historically, most countries that have been attacked and subdued by China are now part of China, and that is a very real example of China's history as an aggressor, but most of China's current neighbors have never been subdued by China. The northern half of Korea, Mongolia and some parts of Russia were and afterwards they were part of China for a time. It is true that China has regularly been very aggressive in their use of diplomacy and economics which manifested in the tributary system. And while it's true that some tribute was in the form of concubines and eunuchs, the end of the tributary system coincided with the height of the Atlantic slave trade. Needless to say, human rights standards have evolved around the world since then. "Onto more recent history, they are currently invading 'South China Sea', claiming that this sea belonged to them from ancient times although the sea is surrounded by Southern Asian countries. After building artificial islands on it, they now run military post there." The term "invading" here is clearly anti-Chinese. While I think the nine-dash line is a little dubious as a legitimate claim marker the Chinese feel very strongly that those waters have always been theirs since long before the current rules came into existence and that others are trying to steal away their legitimate territory. That being said, Magicsteel1 is understandably perturbed that the Chinese are taking such measures to physically defend their claim to these contested waters. This is getting really long I'll try to classify his other points with less commentary. "Corporations have to maintain 'quanchi'(relationship) with CCP just to run businesses. When Western companies come in, they are forced to work with their local businesses, give up their trading secrets, then get kicked out by Chinese government harassing them. They censor internet and force Apple to do their bidding just to do business there." You wanna live in my house, you gotta follow my rules. Not all governments roll over for their corporate masters. "They spy on their own citizens, arrest certain religious groups and sell their organs." Falun Gang propaganda. A few instances involving overzealous prison wardens may have occurred but this has never been government policy nor has it been condoned by the CCP. "…and hold down Tibet by force." True "When South Korea invited US to install THAAD to defend against North, China harassed Korean companies and tried to prevent their citizens from traveling there as retaliation." True "They're preparing 'social score' system to rate and grade everyone and manage them." This is true and many in China are viewing it with some degree of apprehension. On the other hand, the government is really getting tired of failing to get people to quit engaging in deceptive, dangerous and unhygienic behavior - something that I can sympathize with as a Portlander. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. "When somebody criticize CCP outside of China, often they try to put political pressure on foreign powers to silence them." The Chinese government can be thin-skinned when it comes to certain critics who they think could be particularly aggravating nuisances such as the Dalai Lama. I don't think MagicSteel1 has anything to be worried about. "Their ambassadors keep track of Chinese college students studying abroad and send them to run political protests." I think MagicSteel1 underestimates the patriotism felt by many Chinese students studying abroad. "Some Hollywood actors are banned from China for making movies critical of them." True, and understandable. "They threaten to invade Taiwan by force if they ever claim independence although they are two countries in reality. They have threatened travel companies to post Taiwan as part of China." Taiwan is part of China, and except for the period of Japanese occupation Taiwan has been governed as part of China since the early Qing Dynasty beginning in 1683, a lot longer than any part of America, the Caribbean or the Pacific Islands have been part of the United States. This is also longer than Okinawa has been part of Japan. The governing state on Taiwan is the Republic of China. The debate isn't whether or not Taiwan is part of China but rather which government rules all of China, Taiwan included. So except for the "although they are two countries in reality." illusion MagicSteel1 is correct. The PRC will invade Taiwan if its government declares the island not to be part of China.
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