Comments by "Nicolae Crefelean" (@kneekoo) on "Munro Live"
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Ok, what I don't understand is why Sandy reviewed an ICE vehicle. I remember him saying somewhat recently that he only looks at EVs now, and that the ICE age is dead. This looks like a funeral party.
With that out of the way:
1. Americans love big vehicles and they frequently say that in an accident you want to be in the bigger car. But you know what? There can always be a bigger car if people ask for bigger and bigger cars. What exactly does that lead to? Terrible inefficiency: gas guzzlers and in the future battery hogs. I wonder how much time the US market will need to figure out that smaller cars are a better idea. And by smaller I don't mean the Fiat 500 kind of small. I mean common sense small - enough to have plenty of room inside for you and your passengers, and to carry stuff around, but not a big and heavy monstrosity that can pass for a pimped-up tank on wheels.
2. 0:15 For an ICE vehicle to be developed for nearly 8 years and launched when EVs sales are ramping up exponentially... may their negative ROI be as small as they can hope for! It will be a loss.
3. 4:20 A gap presented as a feature and Sandy doesn't even flinch? What?! This is Sandy we're talking about - nagging about gaps before you even see the whole shape of the car. I felt like there was a punchline somewhere, but over 9 minutes in the video there was none.
4. 7:48 The cap over the battery would've been categorized as unnecessary on other vehicles, because most people don't even look, but here it was attention to detail because it's a luxury vehicle. Where exactly is the line between useless+cost and luxury?
5. I immediately liked the video because so far I liked everything I watched from Sandy, so just so I don't forget at the end, at some point I started clicking "Like" from the get go. But after 9:25 I removed the like and I was wondering if it's still worth watching the review of a glorified ICE vehicle. I decided to do so, just because Sandy is in the video and maybe there will be a conclusion that will be worth being there for. He did ask about an EV version of this vehicle in the first few minutes, so at least there's that. I'll see what comes next. But if Sandy weren't in this, I would've stopped watching and disliked the video. Just let the ICE vehicles die in peace. It's time.
6. 12:32 Sandy recommending an ICE vehicle. Ok, this happened. And sure, if his friends don't care about anything other than luxury tanks, it goes without saying that Tesla, VW and others are not there yet with their EVs, which means their only option is ICE. Still... whatever.
7. 14:50 Ok, they mentioned a weird thing about the "chrome" line not having the same finish.
8. 21:13 🤣🤣🤣 Two punchlines for the price of one timestamp! It stinks, but it wouldn't if it were an EV.
9. 22:12 About the 360-degree visibility: "This, at its time, and it probably still is within this segment class, leading." Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he probably wasn't up to date with that detail. But if that feature was benchmarked 8 years ago and no one checked in the meantime, it explains how some car manufacturers see themselves as leaders in this and that. You know, like GM are somehow the leaders in EVs. 🤣 So maybe it was a slip up, but it still looks bad.
10. 27:34 Very funny, but that's definitely not the only problem of this vehicle. A 6.4L engine is a seriously big problem. You pay taxes through your nose and your passenger's nose to be able to drive that. And then you need lots of oil and gas to move it around. And then there's everything else about ICE vehicles.
It was a strange video for this channel. At the end I didn't click "Dislike" but not "Like" either. The good part of reviews like this is that you get to see features that are classified as luxury, so you can appreciate them when you get them on vehicles that are half the price or cheaper. Other than that, seeing a huge gas guzzler reviewed when EVs are finally taking over, it feels completely wrong.
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@cengeb You're either misinformed or pretending. I worked for 2 car dealerships and I know about the logistics nightmare they went through to stock up parts for service. Frames and tires are one thing, the thousands of different parts are another. Currently, VW have at least 24 models for sale. Divide 10 million by 24 and you get 416666. How about economies of scale now, considering most of those are ICE vehicles that are much more complex than EVs? Even their ID.4 is way more complex than the Tesla Model Y, which is why they're more expensive to build, and take more time.
Herbert Diess (VW CEO) admitted it takes them more than 3 times as much time to make a car, compared to Tesla. The legacy car industry margins average below 5%. Tesla is way above that, and if you think vertical integration is the same for Tesla and VW/Toyota, you simply ignore how easier it is for Tesla with only 4 models. Have you watched the teardowns Munro did? Search for "Comparing Tesla, Ford, & VW's Electrical Architectures" and you'll notice how Tesla reduced complexity and cost. But that's not because they somehow cut corners.
When you think about vertical integration, you probably only consider the parts. It's more than that, because by having teams doing their own parts in house, they also work closely to optimize their design so their architecture works as efficiently as possible with the included parts. They remove what they can, by designing their components to still to the same job, most of the time even better than before. Their electrical system is very lean. Their cooling system went from a traditional one to one controlled by a super bottle, and then the octovalve. You just can't see that kind of optimizations when you order components build by various suppliers because they're not involved in the design of those cars.
Also, Tesla is set to deliver around 900k cars this year and two new factories are close to coming online, so next year we can expect over 1.3 million cars delivered. Their vertical integration and economies of scale will benefit them even more. Just watch more of Sandy's teardowns and comparisons and you'll understand the difference, and why Tesla's vertical integration is not your grandpa's vertical integration.
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John Brennan If you actually check J.D. Power (trust them or not), they have no expert reviews for Tesla and they only have consumer reviews for 2020. But if you take those into account, out of 221 reviews the lowest ones are two 4/5 ratings - the rest are 5/5 stars. As for Consumer Reports, they are known to publish crap like documenting how to "defeat" the Tesla Autopilot driver monitoring. Showing everyone how to be irresponsible and a hazard on the street is stupid beyond reason. That said, a month later Tesla already had camera monitoring for the driver to prevent idiots from being idiots, because that was what triggered their article in the first place, someone losing their lives for being irresponsible. And most cars have no driver monitoring at all.
About the control arm, for a non-safety related issue, it sucks but it's not a big deal and not more than other cars' problems that happen occasionally. Well, that if we don't consider exceptions like GM having to recall all Bolt EVs for battery fire issues after recommending their customers to park and charge them far from civilization, or Ford Mach-E's bricking problem on "over-the-air" updates that are not really over the air and can only be done in a dealership in the first place, if you want the promised feature of opening your car with your phone. But sure, complain about a few squeaking Teslas.
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