Comments by "Bob" (@Bob-nd2mr) on "Anders Puck Nielsen"
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Reference: Anders simple diagram showing a demarcating line.
Those that are AWARE and VALUE THEIR FREEDOM .....and those who DO NOT and "deserve everything that then happens".
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
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Anders Puck Neilsen "understanding your enemy"
Christopher Browning ......"Ordinary Men"......true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942.
Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions.
Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.
(sound familiar ?)
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The Democracies are confronting a fundemental TRUTH through 2 global "events" ....COVID in China & the invasion of UKRAINE...the TRUTH is : Being FREE to decide to go from A to B means that you are alive and not dead.,,,. A grain of sand is dead because it moves only because the wind and the rain moves it The sand has no "volition" but a human being is ALIVE because it can decide itself to go from A to B or C or where ever we decide to go Losing that FREEDOM is essentially dieing and becoming just a grain of sand. Here is how Solzhenitsyn puts it:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
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@peterrumspringa9757 that was a brilliant reply to the confused toto who got lost in the detail.
Predictions are great but !.....not the point at all....Ukrainians are motivated to resist...but Russians ..for the most part ... just obey orders.
Draw your own conclusions.
Reference :
Christopher Browning ......"Ordinary Men".....as follows
true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942.
Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions.
Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.
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Predictions are great but the basic "arguement" used to predict this war is that the Ukrainians are motivated to resist in every way possible ......but the Russians ..for the most part ... just obey orders.
Draw your own conclusions.
Reference : Christopher Browning ......"Ordinary Men".....as follows
......true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942.
Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions.
Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.
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Демократии сталкиваются с фундаментальной ИСТИНОЙ через 2 глобальных «события»... КОВИД в Китае и вторжение в УКРАИНУ… ПРАВДА в том, что быть СВОБОДНЫМ в решении перейти от А к Б означает, что вы живы, а не мертвы. .,,,. Песчинка мертва, потому что она движется только потому, что ее движет ветер и дождь. У песка нет «воли», но человек ЖИВ, потому что он может решить сам перейти от А к В или С или туда, куда мы решим. Потерять эту СВОБОДУ — значит, по сути, умереть и превратиться в песчинку. Вот как об этом говорит Солженицын:
«И как мы потом горели в лагерях, думая: что было бы, если бы каждый оперуполномоченный, выходя ночью для ареста, не знал, вернется ли он живым, и должен был прощаться с его семья? Или если бы в периоды массовых арестов, как, например, в Ленинграде, когда арестовывали четверть всего города, люди не просто сидели бы в своих берлогах, бледнея от ужаса при каждом хлопке двери внизу и при каждом шаге наверху. лестнице, но поняли, что терять им уже нечего, и смело устроили в холле нижнего этажа засаду из полудюжины человек с топорами, молотками, кочергами или чем-либо еще, что было под рукой?... Органы очень быстро страдали бы недостатком офицеров и транспорта, и, несмотря на всю сталинскую жажду, проклятая машина остановилась бы! Если... если... Мы недостаточно любили свободу. И даже больше – мы не осознавали реальную ситуацию... Мы просто-напросто заслужили все, что произошло потом».
― Александр Солженицын , Архипелаг ГУЛАГ 1918–1956 гг.
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Я слышал почти точный анализ ухода Серувокиных от американского полковника МакГрегора, что Херсон был открытой раной. Мое мнение>>>>> Большая разница в том, что ИНТЕРНЕТ стал очень важным в этом конфликте. Очень сложно продвигать старый стиль, когда так много людей смотрят, слушают и говорят в Интернете. ИСТИНА, похоже, возникает так же, как и в КВАНТОВОЙ МЕХАНИКЕ. Данные большого объема схлопываются в точку. Становится все более и более очевидным, что люди хотят, чтобы эта война закончилась тем, что ВСУ вытеснят вторгшиеся российские силы с Украины, как было определено, когда Украина стала членом ООН в 1991 году.
Глава 1 Статья 2 Пункт 4 Устава ООН применяется ко всем государствам-членам. Или они НЕ являются членами, а просто представляют собой случайную преступную организацию. Прочтите КРАСНОЕ УВЕДОМЛЕНИЕ Билла Браудера.
ПОСТУПОК МАГНИЦКОГО призван поймать этих преступников.
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