Comments by "Jack B" (@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing) on "LegalEagle"
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@nicholasmckenzie7403 yes, but with different verbiage. DD 256A, and it's formally called dismissal. But even the manual calls it being discharged honorably. Discharge is more a semi-formal term of art as meant to describe the character of the separation. I'm given to undestand by my Admin NCO battle buddy that Op is right, technically there is no Dishonorable Officer Discharge unless they did something naughty in the latrine. They can simply be forced out by direction of dismissal for reasons both good and bad. Lost a leg, aged out gracefully after a lifetime of service, said the wrong thing on the Evening News, couldn't keep his dirty hands off his SPC-4 admin assistant, got passed over too many times, some Field Grade officer didn't like his face, lost a plane because he zigged when he shoulda zagged, etc. etc.
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@ It didn't launch my career. I grew up poor, so I ended up in the Military as soon as I graduated high school. The Fed job came later after I too bought into the myth that a fed job was "the best, last job you could get". So I applied for one.
The realities were usually the polar opposite of what everyone (who clearly never had a federal job) mythologizes about them. Lots of short-notice travel taking you away from home, no overtime pay but lots of overtime worked, tons of mandatory in-person and online training, paperwork, paperwork, paperowork (all in the name of preventing Fraud, Waste, & Abuse), a paranoid culture of trying to not make tiny clerical mistakes that gets you written up, getting set up for failure by back-stabbing coworkers who behave like it's an episode of Survivor, and most of all: absolutely no forgiveness and the threat of legal consequences for administrative & utterly inconsequential mistakes.
Example: I kid you not, a gas jockey accidentally put Plus unleaded in a GSA car on a travel job, and they literally sent an investigator to interview everyone for 'fraud waste and abuse' and start a whole inquisition. In 2009. We counted our beans and expenses with more excruciating detail than anyone in the private sector. To the penny. You have to learn systems within systems within systems just to be a janitor or forklift jockey.
These DOGE clowns aren't concerned with 'fraud, waste, and abuse', they're there to CREATE fraud waste and abuse, and profit from it while blaming someone else. Nobody spends more time trying to prevent it than Fed managers themselves. We had lots of sayings in the fed world, but this one is most relevant: "You've never seen an organization more willing to spend a dollar to save a dime."
Some of our other sayings:
- I file everything, therefore I know nothing
- Those who shred history are doomed to repeat it
- Anything worth doing is worth doing in Triplicate
It's the Administratum of 40k lore.
You may think that Park Ranger has a cush job sitting in a booth charging $5 for a parking pass to everyone, but what you don't know is that the moment they leave the booth, they have a pile of admin work and mandatory training waiting for them in the office and voice call meetings with supervisors.
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I take serious issue with the legal system treating recordings as hearsay.
Two years ago my '09 Triumph was stolen in Oregon, and found in Washington. Guy was caught, and laid out an argument that he knew me and gave him permission to use it, and we had a falling out. Obviously, I didn't know the guy. But the neighbors camera caught it, and neither I, the DA, or the defense knew about the video file until the day before I was going to testify. Therefore, being presented late, on the day of trial. DA told the defense and guy changed his plea to guilty. But if they had called it 'hearsay', he would have had a bogus defense.
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